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The Worldwide Crisis of Islam => The Truth About Islam => Topic started by: john.dane on October 07, 2009, 12:32:14 PM
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this post is to all you idiots out there. recently i made a few posts to better understand things. instead of helping me learn and understand. you insulted me and called me anti semetic. even though the blood in my veins is semetic blood. let me tell you now. i am not the type of person who will critercise one race and not the other. if palestine does something which i think is wrong i will condem it. just like if israel does something i think is wrong i will condem there actions also. i am not one sided. i say it as i see it. if you dont like it tough titties. get over it no one is perfect as musch as you may think you are. there are things you have the right to do. and things u have no right whatsoever to do. thats all i have to say for now. i look forwerd to your replys.
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if palestine does something which i think is wrong i will condem it.
There is no Palestine! Palestinians are Terrorists!! They do only wrong things!
if you dont like it tough tit*ies.
Using of those words is not welcomed here.
thats all i have to say for now.
For now? So there are more things?
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this post is to all you idiots out there. recently i made a few posts to better understand things. instead of helping me learn and understand. you insulted me and called me anti semetic.
Nobody insulted you. Many people put facts and logical arguments before you, and you ignored it. You should put your "I-am-not-one-sided" mantra aside and read their posts once more. Debate with facts and logic, not with standard phrases and cliches.
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this post is to all you idiots out there. recently i made a few posts to better understand things. instead of helping me learn and understand. you insulted me and called me anti semetic.
Nobody insulted you. Many people put facts and logical arguments before you, and you ignored it. You should put your "I-am-not-one-sided" mantra aside and read their posts once more. Debate with facts and logic, not with standard phrases and cliches.
i have been called a troll i have been called anti semetic i have been mocked for my grammer even though i mentioned i have dyslexia that to me is insulting
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Listen genius, antisemitism means Jew hating, and unfortunately there are self hating Jews, anyway I don't know or care what sort of blood runs in your vains. If your mother was born a Jew, that would make you a Jew, and a very self loathing one.
Since your first post you just lobbed baseless anti-Jewish accusations about supposed war crimes committed by Israel, you also added insults by equating the heroic Jews of the Stern group to al-qaeda terrorists, and I don't recall you ever seriously tried to either make clear of your point nor did you seriously read and took notice of the answers to your offensive rantings.
I think it is a waste of time debating with you, you seem a hopeless case.
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if palestine does something which i think is wrong i will condem it.
There is no Palestine! Palestinians are Terrorists!! They do only wrong things!
if you dont like it tough tit*ies.
Using of those words is not welcomed here.
thats all i have to say for now.
For now? So there are more things?
1 there is a palestine weather you like it or not 2 ok the tough titties remark was wrong of me they where hasty words 3 yes i have a hell of a lot more to say on this matter
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Listen genius, antisemitism means Jew hating, and unfortunately there are self hating Jews, anyway I don't know or care what sort of blood runs in your vains. If your mother was born a Jew, that would make you a Jew, and a very self loathing one.
Since your first post you just lobbed baseless anti-Jewish accusations about supposed war crimes committed by Israel, you also added insults by equating the heroic Jews of the Stern group to al-qaeda terrorists, and I don't recall you ever seriously tried to either make clear of your point nor did you seriously read and took notice of the answers to your offensive rantings.
I think it is a waste of time debating with you, you seem a hopeless case.
heroic what is heroic about kidnapings torture bombs murder of innocents that to me screams terrorism and anti semetism isnt jew hating. semites where a race of people and i aint self loathing and they where simple questians that i asked and as for israel they do wrong things aswell ok not as much as palestine but they still do wrong things they are like any other country not perfect so get over yourself and stop thinking the sun shines out your backside
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if palestine does something which i think is wrong i will condem it.
There is no Palestine! Palestinians are Terrorists!! They do only wrong things!
if you dont like it tough tit*ies.
Using of those words is not welcomed here.
thats all i have to say for now.
For now? So there are more things?
1 there is a palestine weather you like it or not 2 ok the tough titties remark was wrong of me they where hasty words 3 yes i have a hell of a lot more to say on this matter
I think you are wrong here in this forum.
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if palestine does something which i think is wrong i will condem it.
There is no Palestine! Palestinians are Terrorists!! They do only wrong things!
if you dont like it tough tit*ies.
Using of those words is not welcomed here.
thats all i have to say for now.
For now? So there are more things?
1 there is a palestine weather you like it or not 2 ok the tough titties remark was wrong of me they where hasty words 3 yes i have a hell of a lot more to say on this matter
I think you are wrong here in this forum.
i realy do apolagise if i insult anybody but like i say i say things as i see them i ask questions when i do not know if it insults some people then i am sorry but thats there problems
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heroic what is heroic about kidnapings torture bombs murder of innocents
What are you talking about? Who do you accuse? Who is the vicim? Be more specific.
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JOHN DANE. I understand where your coming from. I am appelled just as you are by the lack of heart in some of these ideas and see it completely two faced. For example calling muslims rac ;)ist terrorists while at the same time, like you stated, call to nuke mecca.
There has to be a good reason why most converts turn to Islam!
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What sort of semite are you, an Arab maybe ?
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There has to be a good reason why most converts turn to Islam!
Are you one of them? :P
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There has to be a good reason why most converts turn to Islam!
yes most have criminal histories like moe ham mad .btw why don't you became a baha'i
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There has to be a good reason why most converts turn to Islam!
Are you one of them? :P
yes I converted 4 years ago, and it is obviously not a man-made religion.
so do i get kicked out now, or is their courage in the JTF staff.
and one more thing, Muslims believe in jesus, moses, and mohammad, So if Islam was to take care of Jerusalem, dont you see why they would take care of all the religions' monuments without bias.
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There has to be a good reason why most converts turn to Islam!
Are you one of them? :P
yes I converted 4 years ago, and it is obviously not a man-made religion.
so do i get kicked out now, or is their courage in the JTF staff.
and one more thing, Muslims believe in jesus, moses, and mohammad, So if Islam was to take care of Jerusalem, dont you see why they would take care of all the religions' monuments without bias.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4N0W_CAGDg
Muslims you are all animals.
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There has to be a good reason why most converts turn to Islam!
Are you one of them? :P
yes I converted 4 years ago, and it is obviously not a man-made religion.
so do i get kicked out now, or is their courage in the JTF staff.
and one more thing, Muslims believe in jesus, moses, and mohammad, So if Islam was to take care of Jerusalem, dont you see why they would take care of all the religions' monuments without bias.
Jesus is God,
Allah is not!
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I don't think you'll be banned for saying you converted to Islam. You dived into the garbage, you have to live in it, not we. It's your problem, not ours.
What had you been before the conversion? Jewish, Christian, etc.?
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There has to be a good reason why most converts turn to Islam!
Are you one of them? :P
yes I converted 4 years ago, and it is obviously not a man-made religion.
so do i get kicked out now, or is their courage in the JTF staff.
and one more thing, Muslims believe in jesus, moses, and mohammad, So if Islam was to take care of Jerusalem, dont you see why they would take care of all the religions' monuments without bias.
Jesus is G-d,
Allah is not!
"Allah is fcking with Mohamed right now in the hell with kid camels." :laugh:
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and one more thing, Muslims believe in jesus, moses, and mohammad, So if Islam was to take care of Jerusalem, dont you see why they would take care of all the religions they did a great job in pre 1967 Jerusalem, a garbage dump was made by the Kotel and no Jews were allowed to visit any Holy sites
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Wall
During the 1948 Arab-Israeli War the Old City together with the Wall was captured by Jordan. Article VIII of the 1949 Armistice Agreement provided for Israeli Jewish access to the Western Wall. However for the following nineteen years, despite numerous requests by Israeli officials and Jewish groups to the United Nations and other international bodies to attempt to enforce the armistice agreement, Jordan refused to abide by this clause. Some sources claim Jews could only visit the wall if they travelled through Jordan (which was not an option for Israelis) and did not have an Israeli visa stamped in their passports.[51] Others say Jordan even barred non-Israeli Jews, demanding that tourists present a certificate of baptism before a visa would be granted.[52] Only Jordanian soldiers and tourists were to be found there. A vantage point on Mount Zion, from where the Wall could be viewed, became the place where Jews gathered to pray. For thousands of pilgrims, the mount, being the closest location to the Wall under Israeli control, became a substitute site for the traditional priestly blessing ceremony which takes place on the Three Pilgrimage Festivals.[53]
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There has to be a good reason why most converts turn to Islam!
Are you one of them? :P
yes I converted 4 years ago, and it is obviously not a man-made religion.
so do i get kicked out now, or is their courage in the JTF staff.
and one more thing, Muslims believe in jesus, moses, and mohammad, So if Islam was to take care of Jerusalem, dont you see why they would take care of all the religions' monuments without bias.
Jesus is G-d,
Allah is not!
"Allah is fcking with Mohamed right now in the hell with kid camels." :laugh:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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I was a christian catholic.
BTW. it is ignorant when anyone says Allah is not god because Allah simply means Almighty god in arabic. arabs of other religions use it as well. as for mohammad the most beloved, no ones life was more documented than his and no one can match his virtue. Even non-muslims agree with these as he was #1 in the book the most 100 most positive inflential poeple in history.
And in the bible it states when God told the sons of abraham I will bring forth from you a great nation, from that came the rightous jews who lived in anceint palestine or juudea and samaraia wvr you want to call it, its the same land. Ishamel father of the arabs but glory for their arabs did not come until mohammad came as promised by GOD.
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Since you are a muslim you should pick an Islamic name like "Yousuf" rather than a Jude-christian name like Joseph, because otherwise you create a confusion.
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I was a christian catholic.
BTW. it is ignorant when anyone says Allah is not G-d because Allah simply means Almighty G-d in arabic. arabs of other religions use it as well. as for mohammad the most beloved, no ones life was more documented than his and no one can match his virtue. Even non-muslims agree with these as he was #1 in the book the most 100 most positive inflential poeple in history.
And in the bible it states when G-d told the sons of abraham I will bring forth from you a great nation, from that came the rightous jews who lived in anceint palestine or juudea and samaraia wvr you want to call it, its the same land. Ishamel father of the arabs but glory for their arabs did not come until mohammad came as promised by G-d.
Allah does not exist! Allah means evil and death! You call me an ignorant? Watch your language
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And in the bible it states when G-d told the sons of abraham I will bring forth from you a great nation, from that came the rightous jews who lived in anceint palestine or juudea and samaraia wvr you want to call it, its the same land.
Then why do Muslims want to kick Jews out of Judea and Samaria?
as for mohammad the most beloved, no ones life was more documented than his and no one can match his virtue. Even non-muslims agree with these as he was #1 in the book the most 100 most positive inflential poeple in history.
Then how do you explain the following hadith:
Book 041, Number 6984:
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.
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It doesn't matter if Allah is another word for God or just a made up god, either way, the Quran is a hideously evil and false book written by a mad man, Muhammad YS"vZ, and not by God.
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joseph yousuf same thing, same prophet. no need to change my name.
and even if my name was robert, there is no Islamic reason to change my name other, than for zealous.
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and one more thing, Muslims believe in jesus, moses, and mohammad, So if Islam was to take care of Jerusalem, dont you see why they would take care of all the religions they did a great job in pre 1967 Jerusalem, a garbage dump was made by the Kotel and no Jews were allowed to visit any Holy sites
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Wall
During the 1948 Arab-Israeli War the Old City together with the Wall was captured by Jordan. Article VIII of the 1949 Armistice Agreement provided for Israeli Jewish access to the Western Wall. However for the following nineteen years, despite numerous requests by Israeli officials and Jewish groups to the United Nations and other international bodies to attempt to enforce the armistice agreement, Jordan refused to abide by this clause. Some sources claim Jews could only visit the wall if they travelled through Jordan (which was not an option for Israelis) and did not have an Israeli visa stamped in their passports.[51] Others say Jordan even barred non-Israeli Jews, demanding that tourists present a certificate of baptism before a visa would be granted.[52] Only Jordanian soldiers and tourists were to be found there. A vantage point on Mount Zion, from where the Wall could be viewed, became the place where Jews gathered to pray. For thousands of pilgrims, the mount, being the closest location to the Wall under Israeli control, became a substitute site for the traditional priestly blessing ceremony which takes place on the Three Pilgrimage Festivals.[53]
what about this
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And in the bible it states when G-d told the sons of abraham I will bring forth from you a great nation, from that came the rightous jews who lived in anceint palestine or juudea and samaraia wvr you want to call it, its the same land.
Then why do Muslims want to kick Jews out of Judea and Samaria?
as for mohammad the most beloved, no ones life was more documented than his and no one can match his virtue. Even non-muslims agree with these as he was #1 in the book the most 100 most positive inflential poeple in history.
Then how do you explain the following hadith:
Book 041, Number 6984:
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.
First of all, no one would be advocating jews to be kicked out of palestine had the zionists not tried to disturb the peace in the first place. and dont give me no pre-1948 arabs killed jews crap because the irgun and the hagnah had their fare share of massacres far worse than any arab attack and they brought weapons and drive-by shootings into the conflict.
as for the hadith, I have heard it before, Islams critics only have a few handfull of verses and hadioths that are repeated over and over again. If it is sahih then it probably refers to the end-defeat of Israeli terror. and Im sure their will not be any innoncents dying.
and by the way, to whoever sent the video of arabs attacks, One week of what Israel does in gaza is far worse. I dont support any terrorist activities, but you have to seperate who is the bigger terrorist and who acts out of despiration.
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And now lets talk about Jesus in the quran who was crucified Jesus or Judas ..Judas.Jesus was lifted to Heaven and Judas was crucified that really turns Christianity on it's head .So Judas died for everyone's sins
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wat?!? I dont get what you mean. anyway yea, quran states jesus was the messiah and chosen over the rest of mankind, he asked god to defend him, and when a prophets makes a prayer it is always answered thus he was carrried into the heavens. doesnt say anything about anyone dying for anyones sins???
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wat?!? I dont get what you mean. anyway yea, quran states jesus was the messiah and chosen over the rest of mankind, he asked G-d to defend him, and when a prophets makes a prayer it is always answered thus he was carrried into the heavens. doesnt say anything about anyone dying for anyones sins???
From an islamic site http://www.answering-christianity.com/crucified.htm
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Oh boy, Joseph! I pity your destiny, becoming a muslim, but who knows maybe you'll leave it next year, statistics report that 70% of new muslim converts, leave Islam after one year. So who knows, maybe you'll figure the evil agenda buried within Islam and save yourself from a big, huge disgusting lie you have fallen for so far. Ofcourse, no offense, but that's the most accurate description to Islam.
You are claiming that Islam believe in christianity and judaism that they are religions of god. Or atleast, that's what you have been brainwashed to believe. Okay. Let's make some simple and clear comparison here.
Islam: Jesus is not the Son of God.
Christianity: Jesus is son of god.
Islam: Jesus is not god.
Christianity: Jesus is god.
Islam: Jesus did not die on the cross
Christianity: Jesus did die on the cross
Islam: Jesus did not die for our sins
Christianity: Jesus did die for our sins
Islam: Allah is God & Muslims his slaves
Christianity: God is Father & we are his children
Islam: Muslim should die for his god !
Christianity: Jesus died for us
Islam: Allah is all about giving Muslims women and boys as sex Slave in his heaven
Christianity: Jesus said he & she will be same as angels
The clear rejection of the Gospel, demonstrates it's spiritual opposition to the truth of God’s word, thus the fingerprints of Islam’s origin are clear for the believer.
You might now say no compulsion in religion? how about KILLING apostasy? so much for freedom of religion. Once you're in, you'll never go out.
I can talk and talk forever about Islam, but why don't you look at these sites and try to educate yourself a little bit, who knows, maybe it washed your brain again and cleaned up the virus.
www.faithfreedom.org
http://www.investigateislam.com/english/
Also, look up Wafaa sultan, Zakria Boutros, Brigitte Gabriel in youtube and google. Goodluck.
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wat?!? I dont get what you mean. anyway yea, quran states jesus was the messiah and chosen over the rest of mankind, he asked G-d to defend him, and when a prophets makes a prayer it is always answered thus he was carrried into the heavens. doesnt say anything about anyone dying for anyones sins???
From an islamic site http://www.answering-christianity.com/crucified.htm
Sick dude ...
It's like the book of satan, everything in there, is the OPPOSITE of the gospel. One contradicts the other. If the gospel is right, then the koran is most probably the result of satan himself. Not to mention that there was narrations saying that muhammad WAS possessed by demons for a period of time. God ...
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wat?!? I dont get what you mean. anyway yea, quran states jesus was the messiah and chosen over the rest of mankind, he asked G-d to defend him, and when a prophets makes a prayer it is always answered thus he was carrried into the heavens. doesnt say anything about anyone dying for anyones sins???
From an islamic site http://www.answering-christianity.com/crucified.htm
Sick dude ...
It's like the book of satan, everything in there, is the OPPOSITE of the gospel. One contradicts the other. If the gospel is right, then the koran is most probably the result of satan himself. Not to mention that there was narrations saying that muhammad WAS possessed by demons for a period of time. G-d ...
True thats why i took it from an Islamic site
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First of all, no one would be advocating jews to be kicked out of palestine had the zionists not tried to disturb the peace in the first place. and dont give me no pre-1948 arabs killed jews crap because the irgun and the hagnah had their fare share of massacres far worse than any arab attack and they brought weapons and drive-by shootings into the conflict.
First of all, pre-1948 murdering of Jews by Arabs is not crap. Jewish blood is not water to spill it and then refer to this crime as something insignificant. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1929_Hebron_massacre
Secondly, Palestinian Arabs were adamant Nazi supporters during WW 2. Their political leader Mohammad Amin al-Husayni, Grand Mufi of Jerusalem, formed SS division in Bosnia and also urge Hitler to exterminate the Jews in death camps.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Amin_al-Husayni
Throughout World War II, al-Husayni worked for the Axis Powers as a broadcaster in propaganda targeting Arab public opinion. He recruited Muslim volunteers for the German armed forces operating in the Balkans. Beginning in 1941, Al-Husayni visited Bosnia, and convinced Muslim leaders that a Muslim S.S. division would be in the interest of Islam. In spite of these and other propaganda efforts, only half of the expected 20,000 to 25,000 Muslims volunteered." Al-Husayni was involved in the organization and recruitment of Bosnian Muslims into several divisions of the Waffen SS and other units. The largest was the 13th "Handschar" division of 21,065 men, which conducted operations against Communist partisans in the Balkans from February 1944, committing numerous atrocities against their traditional ethnic rivals the local Christian Serbs.
In 1942, Husseini helped organize Arab students and North African emigres in Germany into the "Arabisches Freiheitkorps," an Arab Legion in the German Army that hunted down Allied parachutists in the Balkans and fought on the Russian front.
On March 1, 1944, while speaking on Radio Berlin, al-Husayni said: 'Arabs, rise as one man and fight for your sacred rights. Kill the Jews wherever you find them. This pleases G-d, history, and religion. This saves your honor. G-d is with you.'
The highlighted sentence is the true explanation of our hadith, and not your faltering takiyya crap. Grand Mufti Husayni obviously knew Koran better than you.
And finally, you yourself quoted Torah that says the Holy Land was given to the Jews. What is your problem? We don't want Mecca, Medina Cairo or Baghdad. We only took what is rightfully ours.
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and by the way, to whoever sent the video of arabs attacks, One week of what Israel does in gaza is far worse. I dont support any terrorist activities, but you have to seperate who is the bigger terrorist and who acts out of despiration.
What Israel should have done? Wait until Hamas missiles wipe out southern Israel?
The bigger terrosrist is Iran who finances the suicide bombings and missile attacks on Israeli towns. What Israel has done in Gaza is nothing. It should have done to the Nazi Hamas state what the Americans and the British Have done to Nazi Germany in WW2 - bombed them into the stone age.
Would you also sue US and UK for the war crimes against "innoncent" German civilians?
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alright.
first of all, if you read what i said correctly, I said pre-1948 arab killing jew stuff is crap because most if it is exagerated and one-sided. I never support the kiling of any innoncent, but obviosly a meber of the irgun attacking villagers is not innoncent.
arabs retaliotions was the result of the terrorist irgun and zionist enroachment on land that does not belong to them.
as for the allegations on Al-Husayni, who knows how much of it was true, AND, like I said before, a result of irgun and zionist enroahcment on land thats not theirs. and you know and i know that zionist leaders cooperated with the nazis, thats one point a right-wing jew agreed on me with in an argument 2 years ago
Also the website investigate Islam, was pretty stupid and I got bored really fast, i read the crist in Islam part and I found nothing against jesus in those quranic verses(I didnt expect any) I did skip alot so if you find tell me(it'll probably be out of context anyway) as for the what it had at the bottom, reasons why quran was wrong, it bassically relied on what the bible said. and un-scholarly things like, Isa is not the same as Jesus, well if the guy was smart, he would have know the armiac version of jesus is not jesus either, but wvr.
as for the guy with the answering christainuty website, wat on the website did you even find wrong and offending????
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alright.
first of all, if you read what i said correctly, I said pre-1948 arab killing jew stuff is crap because most if it is exagerated and one-sided. I never support the kiling of any innoncent, but obviosly a meber of the irgun attacking villagers is not innoncent.
arabs retaliotions was the result of the terrorist irgun and zionist enroachment on land that does not belong to them.
as for the allegations on Al-Husayni, who knows how much of it was true, AND, like I said before, a result of irgun and zionist enroahcment on land thats not theirs. and you know and i know that zionist leaders cooperated with the nazis, thats one point a right-wing jew agreed on me with in an argument 2 years ago
Also the website investigate Islam, was pretty stupid and I got bored really fast, i read the crist in Islam part and I found nothing against jesus in those quranic verses(I didnt expect any) I did skip alot so if you find tell me(it'll probably be out of context anyway) as for the what it had at the bottom, reasons why quran was wrong, it bassically relied on what the bible said. and un-scholarly things like, Isa is not the same as Jesus, well if the guy was smart, he would have know the armiac version of jesus is not jesus either, but wvr.
as for the guy with the answering christainuty website, wat on the website did you even find wrong and offending????
ALL THE LAND FROM THE NILES TO THE Euphrates BELONGS TO THE JEWS
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Jospeh when you post use spell check
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anti-semetism has always been a western phenomena and only became apparnt in arab countries with the zionist movement and creation of Israel. And being anti-zionist is not anti-jewish.
you seem to be self-concous of the fact that jews were treated well in arab history, ESPECIALLY IN SPAIN, SEARCH THAT AND YOU WILL SEE.
People here seem to be trying to justify their hate for muslims by false things or ignoring vast majority of info and focusing on something taken out of context. WHY
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as for the guy with the answering christainuty website, wat on the website did you even find wrong and offending?
It says Jesus wasn't crucified. He had to die in body in order to die for the worlds sins.He couldn't be lifted into heaven before being crucified.Were you ever really a Christian
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...christianity said jesus dies for my sins and was automatically forgiven, well why worship then, I cant just say I believe I have to act on it it.
Islam told me everyone is responsible for their own actions, and if you want forgiveness then pray, fast, and pray for forgiveness and you will be forgiven and paradise is yours.
as for jesus, it makes more sense to me that god does not need to sacrifice his "son" to forgive us, it far easier than that, and God is one and not like his creation, its ignorant to say he has babies just like we do.
and i dont know why your telling me this, I was aware of the differinces before I converted. thats like the first thing i found out about. I now respect jesus more than before as i belive as he believed.
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alright.
first of all, if you read what i said correctly, I said pre-1948 arab killing jew stuff is crap because most if it is exagerated and one-sided. I never support the kiling of any innoncent, but obviosly a meber of the irgun attacking villagers is not innoncent.
arabs retaliotions was the result of the terrorist irgun and zionist enroachment on land that does not belong to them.
as for the allegations on Al-Husayni, who knows how much of it was true, AND, like I said before, a result of irgun and zionist enroahcment on land thats not theirs. and you know and i know that zionist leaders cooperated with the nazis, thats one point a right-wing jew agreed on me with in an argument 2 years ago
Also the website investigate Islam, was pretty stupid and I got bored really fast, i read the crist in Islam part and I found nothing against jesus in those quranic verses(I didnt expect any) I did skip alot so if you find tell me(it'll probably be out of context anyway) as for the what it had at the bottom, reasons why quran was wrong, it bassically relied on what the bible said. and un-scholarly things like, Isa is not the same as Jesus, well if the guy was smart, he would have know the armiac version of jesus is not jesus either, but wvr.
as for the guy with the answering christainuty website, wat on the website did you even find wrong and offending????
It's not stupid. It's your subconscious trying to escape from reality. How about www.faithfreedom.org ? is it stupid too? how about all the hadiths narrating all the murderous and vile acts of muhammad? are they stupid too? you know, every time I stumble upon an ignorant convert like you, I do the /facepalm thing for over 5 minutes and part of me dies inside, because stories like this make you lose hope in humanity at all. You don't have to agree with everything in investigateislam site, I know myself I don't agree on every claim and accusation he makes, some of them are wrong, but the most are right and worth checking. faithfreedom.org is the best website out there to expose Islam and it have caused so so many muslims to leave Islam, and thus doing humanity and the whole world a big favor. If you wish to look at a very realistic very unbiased source, faithfreedom.org is your ultimate source. It's not only unbiased and logical, it also have the biggest handful of articles, essays, explanations, opinions, responds that deals with Islam and the quran. Islam is a cult, I really hope you realize how death of a cult it is and decide to leave it.
Now, can you please tell me what on earth do you find so appealing in muhammad's history? is it his wives? his wars? his hate speeches? there are countless of proven historical evedencies, most of them from the hadiths, where it shows that muhammad was nothing but a warmonger pervert.
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first of all, if you read what i said correctly, I said pre-1948 arab killing jew stuff is crap because most if it is exagerated and one-sided. I never support the kiling of any innoncent, but obviosly a meber of the irgun attacking villagers is not innoncent.
Arabs started to kill the Jews already in the beginning of 1920. They were concerned with growing Jewish presence in the Land of Israel.
Jewish military organizations were set up for self-defence against Arab gangs.
arabs retaliotions was the result of the terrorist irgun and zionist enroachment on land that does not belong to them.
Irgun and Haganah resistance fighters were Jews and the Land of Israel belongs to Jews. You yourself quoted Torah that says so.
as for the allegations on Al-Husayni, who knows how much of it was true
Not allegations, historical facts. Another historical fact is that Hamas is the branch of Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood whose founder Nasser Al-Banna was a great fan of German Nazis.
and you know and i know that zionist leaders cooperated with the nazis, thats one point a right-wing jew agreed on me with in an argument 2 years ago
Really? And why did they cooperate with nazis? To murder 6 million of European Jews, as Palestinian Hussayni did? Or maybe to murder 6 milliom Arabs? Your propaganda is ridiculous.
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You know, what saddens me most is that you muslims, have no knowledge what so ever about your own religious, and above all that you come in here trying to explain other people's religions. Don't. Everyone is laughing at your ignorance.
"...christianity said jesus dies for my sins and was automatically forgiven, well why worship then, I cant just say I believe I have to act on it it."
- You are stupid now aren't you? or just acting like a fool? yes according to the gospel jesus and god forgave our sins because he loved us. That doesn't mean humans can't do mistakes anymore. As you know (or not) when adam and eve ate from that apple, it was the first sin, and by that the gospel means "IT WAS FORGIVEN". People still do mistakes, and people still must pray and even confess and redeem themselves. No wonder you left christianity, you had 0 knowledge about it and converting to Islam just shows how much of a rickless idiot you are. I pity your parents, or kids, or any of your family to have to deal up with your sh1t.
"Islam told me everyone is responsible for their own actions, and if you want forgiveness then pray, fast, and pray for forgiveness and you will be forgiven and paradise is yours. "
- Where on [censored] earth does the bible tell you NOT to pray to god and NOT to ask forgiveness? fool? omg ...
"as for jesus, it makes more sense to me that G-d does not need to sacrifice his "son" to forgive us, it far easier than that, and G-d is one and not like his creation, its ignorant to say he has babies just like we do. "
Because you are a fool. You believe in what you want to believe, not taking the possibility of other opinions. If you truly believe in god, you would know for SURE that not everytime we understand his ways, not everytime we understand why certain things happens to us, and thus, YOU DON'T HAVE TO UNDERSTAND why he "needed" his son to be sacrificed for our blood. But fortunately, for this we have many explanations, and if you weren't such an ignorant, fool again, you would have looked that up as well.
"and i dont know why your telling me this, I was aware of the differinces before I converted. thats like the first thing i found out about. I now respect jesus more than before as i belive as he believed. "
Bullsh1t. You have absolutely no trust nor belief in jesus christ. You just think you do. If you really believed in jesus christ, you wouldn't have converted to such a pig full of morons death cult.
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first of all, if you read what i said correctly, I said pre-1948 arab killing jew stuff is crap because most if it is exagerated and one-sided. I never support the kiling of any innoncent, but obviosly a meber of the irgun attacking villagers is not innoncent.
And by the way, the Jews that were murdered in Hebron in 1929 were not members of any military organization. They were humble yeshiva students. It is quite possible they were anti-Zionists. You Muslims prefer to murder the defenceless. If there were no Jewish resistance, you would have exterminated all the Jews in the Holy Land.
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look you know that the zionists were plotting from the 20th century, like I said anti-semestism was not apparent until the these insider dealing with the british. obviosly killing civilans at anytime is wrong but I would not be surprised if I reaserched further into the issue there would be something differint about this.
But for now lets say there was a massacre, even if it didnt happen, the irgun and the haganah would still have done what they did maybe even worse.
And Israel would still have been declared a state, as for the zionist and nazi freindship
visit http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/antisemitism/nazisupport.cfm
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What sort of semite are you, an Arab maybe ?
no my mother is jewish her entire family are from the land where israel is today her mother emigrated b4 israel was formed
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look you know that the zionists were plotting from the 20th century, like I said anti-semestism was not apparent until the these insider dealing with the british. obviosly killing civilans at anytime is wrong but I would not be surprised if I reaserched further into the issue there would be something differint about this.
But for now lets say there was a massacre, even if it didnt happen, the irgun and the haganah would still have done what they did maybe even worse.
And Israel would still have been declared a state, as for the zionist and nazi freindship
visit http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/antisemitism/nazisupport.cfm
I have no idea what you are talking about. Are you saying that the massacre against Jews in Hebron was the result of inside dealings with the British?
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JOHN DANE. I understand where your coming from. I am appelled just as you are by the lack of heart in some of these ideas and see it completely two faced. For example calling muslims rac ;)ist terrorists while at the same time, like you stated, call to nuke mecca.
There has to be a good reason why most converts turn to Islam!
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There aren't any. There is never a good reason to convert to Islam.
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look you know that the zionists were plotting from the 20th century, like I said anti-semestism was not apparent until the these insider dealing with the british. obviosly killing civilans at anytime is wrong but I would not be surprised if I reaserched further into the issue there would be something differint about this.
But for now lets say there was a massacre, even if it didnt happen, the irgun and the haganah would still have done what they did maybe even worse.
Zionists were not plotting anything. All their actions were open and their objective were to bring the Jews home - to Israel. Irgun and Haganah wouldn't have done anything if the Arabs were not resisting the return of the Jews to the Jewish fatherland. "Haganah" in Hebrew means defence.
visit http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/antisemitism/nazisupport.cfm
Every nation has traitors, like these Neturei Karta nutjobs. Their crap is not news. They just want to sit in wealthy and secure America and not to live in the Land of Israel. Living in Israel is one of the most fundamental Judaism commandments and they ignore it. They position themselves as religious but they are really a bunch of hypocrites.
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JOHN DANE. I understand where your coming from. I am appelled just as you are by the lack of heart in some of these ideas and see it completely two faced. For example calling muslims rac ;)ist terrorists while at the same time, like you stated, call to nuke mecca.
There has to be a good reason why most converts turn to Islam!
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There aren't any. There is never a good reason to convert to Islam.
What actually converts to pisslam...... Jailbird niggeraas and weak minded white kids. If this is what they want to do so be it... They are useless anyway.
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look you know that the zionists were plotting from the 20th century, like I said anti-semestism was not apparent until the these insider dealing with the british. obviosly killing civilans at anytime is wrong but I would not be surprised if I reaserched further into the issue there would be something differint about this.
But for now lets say there was a massacre, even if it didnt happen, the irgun and the haganah would still have done what they did maybe even worse.
Zionists were not plotting anything. All their actions were open and their objective were to bring the Jews home - to Israel. Irgun and Haganah wouldn't have done anything if the Arabs were not resisting the return of the Jews to the Jewish fatherland. "Haganah" in Hebrew means defence.
visit http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/antisemitism/nazisupport.cfm
Every nation has traitors, like these Neturei Karta nutjobs. Their crap is not news. They just want to sit in wealthy and secure America and not to live in the Land of Israel. Living in Israel is one of the most fundamental Judaism commandments and they ignore it. They position themselves as religious but they are really a bunch of hypocrites.
you attack them just as al-qaida attacks muslims that object to them.
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What exactly made you want to leave Catholicism and convert to Islam?
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you attack them just as al-qaida attacks muslims that object to them.
No. I explained what is the problem of their approach, and what is the underlying motive. Read the previous post once more.
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What exactly made you want to leave Catholicism and convert to Islam?
I read a book by a former minister(Jerald F. Dirks) "The abrahamic faiths"
http://www.amazon.com/Abrahamic-Faiths-Christianity-Similarities-Contrasts/dp/1590080319/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1254959541&sr=8-1
then I read the quran and saw how no way it was man-made, and it just went to Islam from thier.
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And unlike al-qaida, the Jews don't execute people for disagreement with us.
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According to your koran, Israel is for the Jews:
http://www.strategypage.com/militaryforums/91-1640.aspx
http://www.templemount.org/quranland.html
The Qur'an relates the words by which Moses ordered the Israelites to conquer the Land:
"And [remember] when Moses said to his people: 'O my people, call in remembrance the favour of God unto you, when he produced prophets among you, made you kings, and gave to you what He had not given to any other among the peoples. O my people, enter the Holy Land which God has assigned unto you, and turn not back ignominiously, for then will ye be overthrown, to your own ruin.'" [Qur'an 5:20-21]
Moreover - and those who try to use Islam as a weapon against Israel always conveniently ignore this point - the Holy Qur'an explicitly refers to the return of the Jews to the Land of Israel before the Last Judgment - where it says: "And thereafter We [Allah] said to the Children of Israel: 'Dwell securely in the Promised Land. And when the last warning will come to pass, we will gather you together in a mingled crowd.'" [Qur'an 17:104]
Therefore, from an Islamic point of view, there is NO fundamental reason which prohibits Muslims from recognizing Israel as a friendly State.
http://middleeastfacts.com/koran.php
Sura 5:21
Moses is quoted as telling the Jews to "enter into the Holy Land which Allah has assigned to you". While Mohammed later condemns the Jews for their sins and their refusal to accept his message, he never says that, as punishment, Allah has revoked our title to the Holy Land. Therefore the title still stands, and Muslim anti-Zionists are apostates.
Sura 10:93-94
“We settled the Children of Israel in a beautiful dwelling-place...If thou wert in doubt as to what We have revealed unto thee, then ask those who have been reading the Book from before thee" - In case you had any doubts about whether the Koran talks about the Jews' right to live in the land of Israel.
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According to your koran, Israel is for the Jews:
http://www.strategypage.com/militaryforums/91-1640.aspx
http://www.templemount.org/quranland.html
The Qur'an relates the words by which Moses ordered the Israelites to conquer the Land:
"And [remember] when Moses said to his people: 'O my people, call in remembrance the favour of G-d unto you, when he produced prophets among you, made you kings, and gave to you what He had not given to any other among the peoples. O my people, enter the Holy Land which G-d has assigned unto you, and turn not back ignominiously, for then will ye be overthrown, to your own ruin.'" [Qur'an 5:20-21]
Moreover - and those who try to use Islam as a weapon against Israel always conveniently ignore this point - the Holy Qur'an explicitly refers to the return of the Jews to the Land of Israel before the Last Judgment - where it says: "And thereafter We [Allah] said to the Children of Israel: 'Dwell securely in the Promised Land. And when the last warning will come to pass, we will gather you together in a mingled crowd.'" [Qur'an 17:104]
Therefore, from an Islamic point of view, there is NO fundamental reason which prohibits Muslims from recognizing Israel as a friendly State.
http://middleeastfacts.com/koran.php
Sura 5:21
Moses is quoted as telling the Jews to "enter into the Holy Land which Allah has assigned to you". While Mohammed later condemns the Jews for their sins and their refusal to accept his message, he never says that, as punishment, Allah has revoked our title to the Holy Land. Therefore the title still stands, and Muslim anti-Zionists are apostates.
Sura 10:93-94
“We settled the Children of Israel in a beautiful dwelling-place...If thou wert in doubt as to what We have revealed unto thee, then ask those who have been reading the Book from before thee" - In case you had any doubts about whether the Koran talks about the Jews' right to live in the land of Israel.
Some of that is true, your comment brings to light many thing
1- The Quran is not filled with anti-semetic hate like so many say
2- The respect Islam and The quran gives to those jews who followed moses, (david and goliath is mentioned in the Quran
3- Lastly that taking verses out of context can show incorrect results and interpretations.
Your verse about the right of return of the land to the jews is the funniest in regards to its twist.
If you had not taken the verse out of context of the Quran and understood Islam properly, you would have known that although the jews were given that land and conqured rightously, and many great jews are mentioned in the quran in thier servitude to God, and thier faith, at the end they were punished by losing the land,for revolting against god and from the many prophets they killed.
And the jews that were granted the right to control the land 2000 years ago, they were faithfull and did not steal the land and kill inoncents like Israel has done and I dont think israeli generals follow judasim correctly in regards to war.
AND Dont expect to move into a land, kill their people and take thier houses without the other side retailiating
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Dont expect to move into a land, kill their people and take thier houses without the other side retailiating
Don't expect to live in my (Jewish) land without my claims to take it back. Besides, it were Arabs who started to kill the Jews who were returning home. The Jews only defended themselves.
Lastly, according to Judaism the exile of the Jews is not eternal, it was for a limited time. The exile has come to its end.
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Listen Joseph, I don't consider people who go around dangling pickled private organs of Israelis is jars, or people who celebrated when America was attacked to be "innocent."
Now with that being said, I've had enough of your inane trolling. You're out of here.
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There has to be a good reason why most converts turn to Islam!
Are you one of them? :P
yes I converted 4 years ago, and it is obviously not a man-made religion.
so do i get kicked out now, or is their courage in the JTF staff.
and one more thing, Muslims believe in jesus, moses, and mohammad, So if Islam was to take care of Jerusalem, dont you see why they would take care of all the religions' monuments without bias.
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Well, well. We have here someone who voluntarily decided to join the most evil, cowardly, ignorant, genocidal religion on the face of the earth. What a sick and twisted creature. There is a very deep and warm place reserved in the fires of hell for scum like this.
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What sort of semite are you, an Arab maybe ?
no my mother is jewish her entire family are from the land where israel is today her mother emigrated b4 israel was formed
That makes you a Jew, so you better pull yourself together and change your ways.
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What sort of semite are you, an Arab maybe ?
no my mother is jewish her entire family are from the land where israel is today her mother emigrated b4 israel was formed
That makes you a Jew, so you better pull yourself together and change your ways.
i aint changing me ways for anything i have my ways you have yours i respect that why cant you
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What sort of semite are you, an Arab maybe ?
no my mother is jewish her entire family are from the land where israel is today her mother emigrated b4 israel was formed
That makes you a Jew, so you better pull yourself together and change your ways.
With the all respect he can tell whatever he wants.
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What sort of semite are you, an Arab maybe ?
no my mother is jewish her entire family are from the land where israel is today her mother emigrated b4 israel was formed
That makes you a Jew, so you better pull yourself together and change your ways.
With the all respect he can tell whatever he wants.
no he cant he can ask me to change my way but he has no right whatsoever to tell me i better change my ways what right does he have to demand anything from me
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no he cant he can ask me to change my way but he has no right whatsoever to tell me i better change my ways what right does he have to demand anything from me
What would it sound like?
"Could you please change your views?" Do you think anyone would take him serious?
It is ok if someone say "Please change your views".
Why do you feel attacked? Can't you handle criticism? We live in a free nation and everyone has the right to say whatever he want! This is America! Freedom of speech!
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What sort of semite are you, an Arab maybe ?
no my mother is jewish her entire family are from the land where israel is today her mother emigrated b4 israel was formed
That makes you a Jew, so you better pull yourself together and change your ways.
With the all respect he can tell whatever he wants.
no he cant he can ask me to change my way but he has no right whatsoever to tell me i better change my ways what right does he have to demand anything from me
I suppose you are just fine living as a self loathing and assimilated Jew, ok then.
I don't respect your way because it is deranged, and you don't respect mine cause according to your own words the heroic Stern group freedom fighters are equal to al-qaeda terrorists. That would make me a terrorist sympathizer in your own view, so thanks again for all the respect you generously give.
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I don't respect your way because it is deranged, and you don't respect mine cause according to your own words the heroic Stern group freedom fighters are equal to al-qaeda terrorists. That would make me a terrorist sympathizer in your own view, so thanks again for all the respect you generously give.
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yes it whould make you a terrorist sympathizer you condem one group for bombings yet you praise another group for bombings simply cos they are of your faith that to me is being 2 faced
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What sort of semite are you, an Arab maybe ?
no my mother is jewish her entire family are from the land where israel is today her mother emigrated b4 israel was formed
That makes you a Jew, so you better pull yourself together and change your ways.
i aint changing me ways for anything i have my ways you have yours i respect that why cant you
What is this ----> ' i aint changing me ways for anything ' i aint & me ways is hick & irish slang.
I think you're a troll who can't decide on what persona to adopt.
My perception tells me that you're a muslim.
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JohnDane and Joseph, something tells me you two are actually one. One muslim with MPD.
Care to dispute that?
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JohnDane and Joseph, something tells me you two are actually one. One muslim with MPD.
Care to dispute that?
if i was muslim do you think i whould just sit around reading insult about muhamad come on you know what muslims are like when it comes to him plus my grammer and punctuation should give it away that we are not the same person
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What sort of semite are you, an Arab maybe ?
no my mother is jewish her entire family are from the land where israel is today her mother emigrated b4 israel was formed
That makes you a Jew, so you better pull yourself together and change your ways.
i aint changing me ways for anything i have my ways you have yours i respect that why cant you
What is this ----> ' i aint changing me ways for anything ' i aint & me ways is hick & irish slang.
I think you're a troll who can't decide on what persona to adopt.
My perception tells me that you're a muslim.
no i am not muslim i do not beleive in religion god yes religion no my family are jewish though but me no no religion
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There seem to be plenty of leftist, anti zionist, anti israel websites out there who claim to condemn anti semitism. Zionism to me is the Jews who fought back during the Holocaust, the Jews who only want a small piece of land to call home, who dont resort to terrorism, barbarism or harming children to achieve thier goals. What is so wrong with that?
My problem with the left of today is that they harbor such an extreme hatred of the free world that they are willing to side with terrorist barbarians who have no regard for human life. Why do people hate us Jews so much? , we are a mostly sucessful, intelligent, and progressive people. For me it is good to see Jews thinking for themselves, not cow-towing to PC ideals, and celebrating thier culture, which is why I'm proud to be a part of the JTF!
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this post is to all you idiots out there. recently i made a few posts to better understand things. instead of helping me learn and understand. you insulted me and called me anti semetic. even though the blood in my veins is semetic blood. let me tell you now. i am not the type of person who will critercise one race and not the other. if palestine does something which i think is wrong i will condem it. just like if israel does something i think is wrong i will condem there actions also. i am not one sided. i say it as i see it. if you dont like it tough titties. get over it no one is perfect as musch as you may think you are. there are things you have the right to do. and things u have no right whatsoever to do. thats all i have to say for now. i look forwerd to your replys.
You complain about insults starting your post with "all you idiots out there"? :::D
You may have dyslexia. But no one knew it BEFORE you wrote it. If i had known it before I wouldn't have made nasty remarks on it.
You may be Jewish as much as you want. But honestly I prefer a non-religious islamophobic Arab 100 over a Jew-hating anti-Zionist Jew. It is an old wisdom that the worst enemy is the one in your own rows, while the one from outside is still bearable.
And you ARE one-sided, yes. Don't deny it, just be honest. We are all honest with our opinions and this may be a problem for you. If this is the case, so you could consider to stay away from this forum. If you just repeat yourself by creating 1000 threads, this is of no value and not constructive for this forum, sorry! >:( :P
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this post is to all you idiots out there. recently i made a few posts to better understand things. instead of helping me learn and understand. you insulted me and called me anti semetic. even though the blood in my veins is semetic blood. let me tell you now. i am not the type of person who will critercise one race and not the other. if palestine does something which i think is wrong i will condem it. just like if israel does something i think is wrong i will condem there actions also. i am not one sided. i say it as i see it. if you dont like it tough titties. get over it no one is perfect as musch as you may think you are. there are things you have the right to do. and things u have no right whatsoever to do. thats all i have to say for now. i look forwerd to your replys.
You complain about insults starting your post with "all you idiots out there"? :::D
You may have dyslexia. But no one knew it BEFORE you wrote it. If i had known it before I wouldn't have made nasty remarks on it.
You may be Jewish as much as you want. But honestly I prefer a non-religious islamophobic Arab 100 over a Jew-hating anti-Zionist Jew. It is an old wisdom that the worst enemy is the one in your own rows, while the one from outside is still bearable.
And you ARE one-sided, yes. Don't deny it, just be honest. We are all honest with our opinions and this may be a problem for you. If this is the case, so you could consider to stay away from this forum. If you just repeat yourself by creating 1000 threads, this is of no value and not constructive for this forum, sorry! >:( :P
i can tell you now i am not one sided i think everyone can get along i beleive that israel and palestine both do horrible things when i say this i have others condeming me who is one sided here me who thinks both sides are as bad as the other who hates terrorism in all forms or the man who thinks jews do not commit crimes that its ok for jews to be terrorist (i refare to the stern gang) but its an atrocity when muslims do it i beleive all are as bad as the other some beleive they are better cos they are jewish so tell me who is one sided here
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Johndane, I am having trouble figuring out why you have not been banned.
You dare to call Jews terrorists?
"or the man who thinks jews do not commit crimes that its ok for jews to be terrorist"
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Johndane, I am having trouble figuring out why you have not been banned.
You dare to call Jews terrorists?
"or the man who thinks jews do not commit crimes that its ok for jews to be terrorist"
read what i wrote very carfully i wrote jewish terrorism i refare to the stern gang who where terrorists and yes there are some on here who do think like that who think that jews do no wrong everyone does wrong read it again properly
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Johndane, I am having trouble figuring out why you have not been banned.
You dare to call Jews terrorists?
"or the man who thinks jews do not commit crimes that its ok for jews to be terrorist"
read what i wrote very carfully i wrote jewish terrorism i refare to the stern gang who where terrorists and yes there are some on here who do think like that who think that jews do no wrong everyone does wrong read it again properly
The Stern group were heroic freedom fighters and you calling them terrorists goes to show your ignorance or wickedness (probably a combination of both).
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Johndane, I am having trouble figuring out why you have not been banned.
You dare to call Jews terrorists?
"or the man who thinks jews do not commit crimes that its ok for jews to be terrorist"
read what i wrote very carfully i wrote jewish terrorism i refare to the stern gang who where terrorists and yes there are some on here who do think like that who think that jews do no wrong everyone does wrong read it again properly
The Stern group were heroic freedom fighters and you calling them terrorists goes to show your ignorance or wickedness (probably a combination of both).
kidnappings bombs civilians murderd torture that is terrorism not freedom fighting
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Johndane, I am having trouble figuring out why you have not been banned.
You dare to call Jews terrorists?
"or the man who thinks jews do not commit crimes that its ok for jews to be terrorist"
read what i wrote very carfully i wrote jewish terrorism i refare to the stern gang who where terrorists and yes there are some on here who do think like that who think that jews do no wrong everyone does wrong read it again properly
The Stern group were heroic freedom fighters and you calling them terrorists goes to show your ignorance or wickedness (probably a combination of both).
kidnappings bombs civilians murderd torture that is terrorism not freedom fighting
Go read some history books.
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Johndane, I am having trouble figuring out why you have not been banned.
You dare to call Jews terrorists?
"or the man who thinks jews do not commit crimes that its ok for jews to be terrorist"
read what i wrote very carfully i wrote jewish terrorism i refare to the stern gang who where terrorists and yes there are some on here who do think like that who think that jews do no wrong everyone does wrong read it again properly
The Stern group were heroic freedom fighters and you calling them terrorists goes to show your ignorance or wickedness (probably a combination of both).
kidnappings bombs civilians murderd torture that is terrorism not freedom fighting
Go read some history books.
i do read history books and i still think they where terrorists no better than the ira or al quida
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Johndane, I am having trouble figuring out why you have not been banned.
You dare to call Jews terrorists?
"or the man who thinks jews do not commit crimes that its ok for jews to be terrorist"
read what i wrote very carfully i wrote jewish terrorism i refare to the stern gang who where terrorists and yes there are some on here who do think like that who think that jews do no wrong everyone does wrong read it again properly
The Stern group were heroic freedom fighters and you calling them terrorists goes to show your ignorance or wickedness (probably a combination of both).
kidnappings bombs civilians murderd torture that is terrorism not freedom fighting
Go read some history books.
i do read history books and i still think they where terrorists no better than the ira or al quida
Did your grandmother married a British soldier during the British occupation of Israel ?
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Johndane, I am having trouble figuring out why you have not been banned.
You dare to call Jews terrorists?
"or the man who thinks jews do not commit crimes that its ok for jews to be terrorist"
read what i wrote very carfully i wrote jewish terrorism i refare to the stern gang who where terrorists and yes there are some on here who do think like that who think that jews do no wrong everyone does wrong read it again properly
The Stern group were heroic freedom fighters and you calling them terrorists goes to show your ignorance or wickedness (probably a combination of both).
kidnappings bombs civilians murderd torture that is terrorism not freedom fighting
Go read some history books.
i do read history books and i still think they where terrorists no better than the ira or al quida
Did your grandmother married a British soldier during the British occupation of Israel ?
no when she arived in england she met another jew why do u want to know ?
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Because you talk about Jewish heroic resistance fighters just like the British imperialists talked about them. Stren and Haganah fought British colonial occupiers of Israel. Shame on you, you have chosen the enemy's side and repeat their propaganda.
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Johndane, I am having trouble figuring out why you have not been banned.
You dare to call Jews terrorists?
"or the man who thinks jews do not commit crimes that its ok for jews to be terrorist"
read what i wrote very carfully i wrote jewish terrorism i refare to the stern gang who where terrorists and yes there are some on here who do think like that who think that jews do no wrong everyone does wrong read it again properly
The Stern group were heroic freedom fighters and you calling them terrorists goes to show your ignorance or wickedness (probably a combination of both).
kidnappings bombs civilians murderd torture that is terrorism not freedom fighting
Go read some history books.
i do read history books and i still think they where terrorists no better than the ira or al quida
Did your grandmother married a British soldier during the British occupation of Israel ?
no when she arived in england she met another jew why do u want to know ?
Because of the way you speak ill about the stern group, indicated you feel like a target or even a victim.
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Johndane, I am having trouble figuring out why you have not been banned.
You dare to call Jews terrorists?
"or the man who thinks jews do not commit crimes that its ok for jews to be terrorist"
read what i wrote very carfully i wrote jewish terrorism i refare to the stern gang who where terrorists and yes there are some on here who do think like that who think that jews do no wrong everyone does wrong read it again properly
The Stern group were heroic freedom fighters and you calling them terrorists goes to show your ignorance or wickedness (probably a combination of both).
Zelhar, excellent reply!
I will agree with you on your assesment of john dane, he is ignorant and wicked!
Shalom - Dox
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Johndane, I am having trouble figuring out why you have not been banned.
You dare to call Jews terrorists?
"or the man who thinks jews do not commit crimes that its ok for jews to be terrorist"
read what i wrote very carfully i wrote jewish terrorism i refare to the stern gang who where terrorists and yes there are some on here who do think like that who think that jews do no wrong everyone does wrong read it again properly
The Stern group were heroic freedom fighters and you calling them terrorists goes to show your ignorance or wickedness (probably a combination of both).
kidnappings bombs civilians murderd torture that is terrorism not freedom fighting
Go read some history books.
i do read history books and i still think they where terrorists no better than the ira or al quida
Did your grandmother married a British soldier during the British occupation of Israel ?
no when she arived in england she met another jew why do u want to know ?
Because of the way you speak ill about the stern group, indicated you feel like a target or even a victim.
i speak ill of anybody who plants bombs and murders innocent civillians no matter what the cause murder is wrong and thinking like that does not make me ignorant or wicked unlike you i condemm people who do wrong not just non jews who do wrong your the ignorant one
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Johndane, I am having trouble figuring out why you have not been banned.
You dare to call Jews terrorists?
"or the man who thinks jews do not commit crimes that its ok for jews to be terrorist"
read what i wrote very carfully i wrote jewish terrorism i refare to the stern gang who where terrorists and yes there are some on here who do think like that who think that jews do no wrong everyone does wrong read it again properly
The Stern group were heroic freedom fighters and you calling them terrorists goes to show your ignorance or wickedness (probably a combination of both).
Zelhar, excellent reply!
I will agree with you on your assesment of john dane, he is ignorant and wicked!
Shalom - Dox
please explain why i am ignorant and wicked ? might it be because i condem a group of terrorists who happen to be jewish ? is it because i dont believe what you believe ? please explain the wickedness
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Explain what? The fact that you are a troll, a poser, a master bullchiter?
Your wickedness makes you giggle while you play the ' dumb innocent '
You are as transparent as glass!
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Explain what? The fact that you are a troll, a poser, a master bullchiter?
Your wickedness makes you giggle while you play the ' dumb innocent '
You are as transparent as glass!
so i am wicked just cos i dont agree with everything you believe in yer you make a lot of sense your 2 faced its ok for peaope of your faith but anybody else does it well its evil