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Kahanist Singles => Jewish Singles => Topic started by: Dr. Dan on October 07, 2007, 09:14:47 PM
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Just want to create a new thread from the Halloween banning thread....
I'll repeat, in my opinion, there is nothing wrong with hitting on anyone...isn't the goal of hitting on someone to eventually go on a date with them?
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Lol well for some people it is, for others its a sport :P
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As long as you don't physically hit them, it's OK
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And as long as you are polite about it...
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This thread is not appropriate for a Torah forum.
IT is very appropriate to talk about the proper way to talk to women...Who here who is unmarried want to get married? I know I do! Perhaps we can learn a little something...
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This thread is not appropriate for a Torah forum.
definitely have to agree with that one. In the Torah/Bible (whether you are Christian or Jewish), hitting on women is not allowed. If you can find me any renown Torah commentator that allows such behavior I will be quiet but til then.......
P.S. deformed rabbis dont count
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This thread is not appropriate for a Torah forum.
Why not create a poll on whether or not this is appropriate for a Torah forum?
So this is not appropriate. But banning everything under the sun, and engaging in the most vile and vitriolic racist lashon hora is appropriate for a torah forum? I'm no torah scholar. But I'm pretty sure that this is not the Jewish or Torah way.
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listen, if hitting on them is with the intention of dating them, what's wrong with that?! Man, some of you need to get out more.
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Not for all Kelly
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:laugh:
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This thread is not appropriate for a Torah forum.
definitely have to agree with that one. In the Torah/Bible (whether you are Christian or Jewish), hitting on women is not allowed. If you can find me any renown Torah commentator that allows such behavior I will be quiet but til then.......
P.S. deformed rabbis dont count
Try reading your Torah again, it is as natural for men and women to court each other as it is to breath, for example, Sampson and Delilah, okay that didn't turn out so good, but anyway, cmon, please. Where did you get this puritanical sense of things? It is natural, healthy and human. Maybe it's the term "hittin on" that you are fixating on, the sleazy connontation, well call it something else then. :)
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This thread is not appropriate for a Torah forum.
definitely have to agree with that one. In the Torah/Bible (whether you are Christian or Jewish), hitting on women is not allowed. If you can find me any renown Torah commentator that allows such behavior I will be quiet but til then.......
P.S. deformed rabbis dont count
Try reading your Torah again, it is as natural for men and women to court each other as it is to breath, cmon, please. Where did you get this puritanical sense of things? It is natural, healthy and human. Maybe it's the term "hittin on" that you are fixating on, the sleazy connontation, well call it something else then. :)
If the "hitting on" is does with the ultimate intent of marriage that's fine, but if it's not then it is clearly forbidden. Also, "hitting on" multiple women at the same time is also improper
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I agree with the above post. How about flirting?
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This thread is not appropriate for a Torah forum.
definitely have to agree with that one. In the Torah/Bible (whether you are Christian or Jewish), hitting on women is not allowed. If you can find me any renown Torah commentator that allows such behavior I will be quiet but til then.......
P.S. deformed rabbis dont count
Try reading your Torah again, it is as natural for men and women to court each other as it is to breath, cmon, please. Where did you get this puritanical sense of things? It is natural, healthy and human. Maybe it's the term "hittin on" that you are fixating on, the sleazy connontation, well call it something else then. :)
If the "hitting on" is does with the ultimate intent of marriage that's fine, but if it's not then it is clearly forbidden. Also, "hitting on" multiple women at the same time is also improper
Well I'm 40, never been married, and at this point I don't date with an agenda, if one day I'm lucky enough that I meet the girl I can't imagine living without then I'll know it's time to get married, untill then, I haven't made any sort of vow of celibacy. It'd be more of a sin to spend my life alone and miserable and I sure don't plan on doing that. As for multiple women, you don't even buy a car without test driving a couple of different models, why would you marry a woman for life without meeting a few different ones to ultimately compare and choose from first? How do you know what is right and compatible for you without actually finding out? Well I'm secular so it works for me, just add it to my list of sins huh. ;)
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I agree with the above post. How about flirting?
again it depends on the ultimate intent. Flirting to fill a sexual pleasure is wrong but if the ultimate intent is marriage then its ok
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I see where you're coming from and think this topic just needs to be reworded properly rather than avoided. It's ok to show affection and interest towards someone of the opposite sex as long as it is in a RESPECTFUL way. The torah does expect us all to marry and have children if possible so finding a mate should be a valid topic to discuss on a religious forum when conducted in a proper context. The problem I have always encountered with the religious when I ask them for help to find someone is that they use religion as an excuse not to help me.
Getting back to "hitting on a woman", the problem with showing interest becomes where to draw the line. My sister always accuses me of hitting on women when I'm just trying to start simple conversation. Of course just because a woman is attractive and I want to talk to her doesn't mean I'm trying to immediately pursue a relationship. The problem today is that if a guy is not aggressive enough, he does not get the girl. If he is too aggressive, then it becomes harassment. While cases of both extremes are clear, the line between appropriate and inappropriate is not always clear.
In today's society all a woman has to do to create serious problems for a guy is scream harassment. The problem is that there are so many genuine cases of harassment and abuse where the woman should speak up but doesn't, however, most of the time when the woman has the courage to actually speak up, it is a frivolous claim.
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:Dsomeone voted for choice 3.....not me though
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we are in agreement then...
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LOL at "dannycookie is a shmuck!" ;D
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My response is "Only in a moral and respectful manner". Please add that as an option.
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Today's society indeed does have problems. The American family is under attack by many feminist groups and domestic battery has become a crime that is widely taken advantage of.
If we allow liberals to continue to make it "OK" to have bastard children etc., the family will disappear.
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ITs our choice!
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I see where you're coming from and think this topic just needs to be reworded properly rather than avoided. It's ok to show affection and interest towards someone of the opposite sex as long as it is in a RESPECTFUL way. The torah does expect us all to marry and have children if possible so finding a mate should be a valid topic to discuss on a religious forum when conducted in a proper context. The problem I have always encountered with the religious when I ask them for help to find someone is that they use religion as an excuse not to help me.
Getting back to "hitting on a woman", the problem with showing interest becomes where to draw the line. My sister always accuses me of hitting on women when I'm just trying to start simple conversation. Of course just because a woman is attractive and I want to talk to her doesn't mean I'm trying to immediately pursue a relationship. The problem today is that if a guy is not aggressive enough, he does not get the girl. If he is too aggressive, then it becomes harassment. While cases of both extremes are clear, the line between appropriate and inappropriate is not always clear.
In today's society all a woman has to do to create serious problems for a guy is scream harassment. The problem is that there are so many genuine cases of harassment and abuse where the woman should speak up but doesn't, however, most of the time when the woman has the courage to actually speak up, it is a frivolous claim.
it's finding that happy medium...and it depends on the woman's stage in life... of course we can't forget Gd's will
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Can I take off the danny is a shmuck option?
We shouldn't have personal attacks
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I chose in a moral, respectful manner.
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This thread is not appropriate for a Torah forum.
definitely have to agree with that one. In the Torah/Bible (whether you are Christian or Jewish), hitting on women is not allowed. If you can find me any renown Torah commentator that allows such behavior I will be quiet but til then.......
P.S. deformed rabbis dont count
Try reading your Torah again, it is as natural for men and women to court each other as it is to breath, for example, Sampson and Delilah, okay that didn't turn out so good, but anyway, cmon, please. Where did you get this puritanical sense of things? It is natural, healthy and human. Maybe it's the term "hittin on" that you are fixating on, the sleazy connontation, well call it something else then. :)
Samson and Delilah? You could not find an example worse than that?
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WELL GUYS THERE IS ONE LAW I WILL NEVER BREAK...
ADULTERY....
ITS GOOD NEVER GETTING THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMIT CRIMES INVOLVING RELATIONSHIPS...
THANK G-D I WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO FIND SOMEONE....
HHHHHHHOOOOOORAYYYY :)
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This thread is not appropriate for a Torah forum.
definitely have to agree with that one. In the Torah/Bible (whether you are Christian or Jewish), hitting on women is not allowed. If you can find me any renown Torah commentator that allows such behavior I will be quiet but til then.......
P.S. deformed rabbis dont count
Try reading your Torah again, it is as natural for men and women to court each other as it is to breath, for example, Sampson and Delilah, okay that didn't turn out so good, but anyway, cmon, please. Where did you get this puritanical sense of things? It is natural, healthy and human. Maybe it's the term "hittin on" that you are fixating on, the sleazy connontation, well call it something else then. :)
Samson and Delilah? You could not find an example worse than that?
Catching on to my sense of humor yet? :D
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Women BAD .Just kidding.Women are hot!But There are rules!
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WELL GUYS THERE IS ONE LAW I WILL NEVER BREAK...
ADULTERY....
ITS GOOD NEVER GETTING THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMIT CRIMES INVOLVING RELATIONSHIPS...
THANK G-D I WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO FIND SOMEONE....
HHHHHHHOOOOOORAYYYY :)
you'll find someone eventually
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WELL GUYS THERE IS ONE LAW I WILL NEVER BREAK...
ADULTERY....
ITS GOOD NEVER GETTING THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMIT CRIMES INVOLVING RELATIONSHIPS...
THANK G-D I WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO FIND SOMEONE....
HHHHHHHOOOOOORAYYYY :)
I can't understand what this guy's problem is? There are tons of women out there, you can't find even one?
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WELL GUYS THERE IS ONE LAW I WILL NEVER BREAK...
ADULTERY....
ITS GOOD NEVER GETTING THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMIT CRIMES INVOLVING RELATIONSHIPS...
THANK G-D I WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO FIND SOMEONE....
HHHHHHHOOOOOORAYYYY :)
you'll find someone eventually
Not me, i just don't have what it takes to meet the right person.. and i think it should be a crime for people like me to even try
THANKS FOR THE VOTE OF CONFIDENCE THOUGH
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What does it take?
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Well the general picture that people get in their heads of guys hitting on women is basically trying to seduce them into a one night stand. I think what dannycookie means is simply trying to talk to a women in order to get to know her - to see whether she is right for you or not. If that's the case, that is what you're suppose to do. You can't meet one woman and hope she's the one. I "hit on" women.. but I'm still trying to get them to respond :-X
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i dont know what problem i have either...
I DONT KNOW MAYBE SOME PEOPLE ARE NOT JUST MEANT TO FIND THEIR ONE...
its ok i am use to being single like being under a warm shower...
i like to refer to the single life as the "empty white room syndrome" where the person just gives up in trying and accepts that things for themselves are going to be like that always...
NOW WHEN IT COMES TO HELPING OTHERS I NEVER GIVE UP AND THAT IS WHY I LOVE THIS FORUM SO MUCH WITH SUCH GREAT PEOPLE HERE
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WELL GUYS THERE IS ONE LAW I WILL NEVER BREAK...
ADULTERY....
ITS GOOD NEVER GETTING THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMIT CRIMES INVOLVING RELATIONSHIPS...
THANK G-D I WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO FIND SOMEONE....
HHHHHHHOOOOOORAYYYY :)
you'll find someone eventually
Not me, i just don't have what it takes to meet the right person.. and i think it should be a crime for people like me to even try
THANKS FOR THE VOTE OF CONFIDENCE THOUGH
Come on, man, let's not be so intolerably modest. Lay it out. What are you disabled? Have two noses and three eyes?
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Dam I wish I knew!
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there is someone for everyone ;)
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there is someone for everyone ;)
At least one :D
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Shyness is a curse....
thats worse than having 50 disabilities..
SORRY EVERYONE FOR GETTING OFF TRACK..
LETS DISCUSS THE MOVEMENT INSTEAD OF MY ILL GOTTEN LIFE...
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I hope so it keeps me going!
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Shyness is a curse....
thats worse than having 50 disabilities..
SORRY EVERYONE FOR GETTING OFF TRACK..
LETS DISCUSS THE MOVEMENT INSTEAD OF MY ILL GOTTEN LIFE...
however bad your life is I'm sure there is someone who's life could be considered worse. I have suffered a lot more than any kid my age should have to, but ultimately in my eyes I'm far richer than all my friends (even if not monetarily). Our wise Rabbi's say "Who is rich? He who is content with what he has." Be content and you will be rich
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Shyness is a curse....
thats worse than having 50 disabilities..
Shyness is definitely a curse, you've got that right. But eventually you break out of that I think. Do you go to temple at all? Or do you do any types of activities that women are apart of?
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Plenty of women perfer a guy who is on the shyer side ;)
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Shyness is a curse....
thats worse than having 50 disabilities..
SORRY EVERYONE FOR GETTING OFF TRACK..
LETS DISCUSS THE MOVEMENT INSTEAD OF MY ILL GOTTEN LIFE...
My friend, I respect your modesty, but you need help. How old are you? What is your religious affiliation?
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however bad your life is I'm sure there is someone who's life could be considered worse. I have suffered a lot more than any kid my age should have to, but ultimately in my eyes I'm far richer than all my friends (even if not monetarily). Our wise Rabbi's say "Who is rich? He who is content with what he has." Be content and you will be rich
It sounds like finding a girl is what would make him happy. I'm the same way.. I have good friends and family and a good job, but I still wake up everyday with an empty feeling. And I even get down right angry when I see couples walking down the street.
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Hahaha, I like the title change :laugh:
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yes ahh no!
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What does every discussion end in banning something......
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Its OK we are chatting!
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Yes yacov you are right again.Im sorry but love of pagan values does bother me as well.
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Can we stick with one title?
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What does every discussion end in banning something......
Because JTF is a moral organization and we strive to ban immorality.
That makes sense, but we never seem to focus on positive things, probably because that would be boring but still.....
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I dont celebrate valentines day....but I wouldnt turn chocolate down either ;D
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NO ONE IS DESPENSIBLE IN MY BOOK...
if i ever meet a nice lady later down the track i will feel like i have one the jackpot...
IN THE END IM TRYING TO FIND EXUSES NOT TO MEET THE RIGHT PERSON BECAUSE I AM AFRAID OF GETTING HURT AGAIN...
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Damn I don't know what to say.My wife fooled around when I forgot her birthday .If I forgot vals day I d really be in trouble.
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I think valentines day is just and advertising gimmic so people can have illegitimate offspring and procreate
MATE FEED KILL REPEAT
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LOL
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its more of a money making scheme fueled by guilting guys into spending obscene amounts of money on overpriced flowers and gifts.
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its more of a money making scheme fueled by guilting guys into spending obscene amounts of money on overpriced flowers and gifts.
Damn right, but I'm with you on the chocolate ;)
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Every one send Kelly some.LOL
wayne jude
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no wait...my birthday isnt till next month ;)
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Hey thanks that was really nice :)
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HAPPY BDAY FOR THEN...
I ALWAYS FORGET MY FRIENDS BIRTHDAY DATES
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Can I take off the danny is a shmuck option?
We shouldn't have personal attacks
wow, my poll and thread were ripped apart! lol...I made this poll as a joke to certain people's displeasure about talking about hitting on women...i'm the one who wrote dannycookie is a shmuck as the third option....
Anyway, this is so ridiculous that talking about hitting on women is not appropriate for this forum. It is certainly appropriate!
Secondly, just to set this straight to all men...ALL MEN! If you ever decide to pursue a girl, treat her the way you would want your own daughter to be treated....or your sister if you had one...That's the golden rule!
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Can I take off the danny is a shmuck option?
We shouldn't have personal attacks
wow, my poll and thread were ripped apart! lol...I made this poll as a joke to certain people's displeasure about talking about hitting on women...i'm the one who wrote dannycookie is a shmuck as the third option....
Anyway, this is so ridiculous that talking about hitting on women is not appropriate for this forum. It is certainly appropriate!
Secondly, just to set this straight to all men...ALL MEN! If you ever decide to pursue a girl, treat her the way you would want your own daughter to be treated....or your sister if you had one...That's the golden rule!
Yea I realized later that you had started the poll, but I was too lazy to delete my post, sry.
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i dont know what problem i have either...
I DONT KNOW MAYBE SOME PEOPLE ARE NOT JUST MEANT TO FIND THEIR ONE...
its ok i am use to being single like being under a warm shower...
i like to refer to the single life as the "empty white room syndrome" where the person just gives up in trying and accepts that things for themselves are going to be like that always...
NOW WHEN IT COMES TO HELPING OTHERS I NEVER GIVE UP AND THAT IS WHY I LOVE THIS FORUM SO MUCH WITH SUCH GREAT PEOPLE HERE
are you ugly? is that why you say that?
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Shyness is a curse....
thats worse than having 50 disabilities..
SORRY EVERYONE FOR GETTING OFF TRACK..
LETS DISCUSS THE MOVEMENT INSTEAD OF MY ILL GOTTEN LIFE...
dude, i wish you could see a picture of me and know what i do for a living...i get very very shy also when i see a girl that i want to get to know...everythign that i say comes off akward, i stare at them to intensely...you name it...i screw up a lot when i'm in that situation. I only wish those women had enough wisdom to realize that all of that, in itself was a complement. I think there is a way to talk to women properly to get them to like you..but the reason why it's not discussed here is because it can be used for the wrong purposes
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danny haugia lolol
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I would never hit a woman. I have great respect, adoration and admiration for women.
Lame response, I know. Yeah, I'd flirt with a woman. Nothing dirty. But just harmless flirting.
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NO ONE IS DESPENSIBLE IN MY BOOK...
if i ever meet a nice lady later down the track i will feel like i have one the jackpot...
IN THE END IM TRYING TO FIND EXUSES NOT TO MEET THE RIGHT PERSON BECAUSE I AM AFRAID OF GETTING HURT AGAIN...
ah, i'm just like you...rejection is painful...my whole week gets ruined with that happens...but sometimes you have to keep diong this to become a stronger person..
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Dannycookie should stay loyal in relationships.
of course...what would make you think i wouldn't want to be?
Listen, I date girls to see if they are right for me..if they are wrong for me, I don't waste their time...as that's how every other guy should do it too.
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WE should love our women day and night that is what I hate about valentine's Day....
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But we wouldn't want to hit on our own daugther, would we?
Yaacov...if you had a daughter, Gd willing one day, you know she shoudl get married eventually...but how would you want a man to approach her?
I know that if i had a daughter i would be very protective of her..so certainly, when i go out and meet and date women, I have that in my head that I should talk to this woman in the way that if I had a daughter, Gd willing, that she be talked to and treated in the manner that I would accept as a father, Gd willing one day.
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As one wise guy said once, the difference that make the difference with women is indifference.
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As one wise guy said once, the difference that make the difference with women is indifference.
i dont' get it.
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You have to overcome your interest in a particular woman in order to:
1) Overcome the shyness, and thus talk straight,
2) Hide your hunger for women, and for this one in particular, which will trigger her interest in you as someone who is not needy and is not lacking attention from the opposite gender.
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Were being too silly!
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What the heck is this thread about?
Cookies and cake, I think. ???
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What the heck is this thread about?
Aren't you the one who keeps changing the title?
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What happened to the real thread(s)? This was a legitimate discussion at one point.
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This thread is not appropriate for a Torah forum.
Why not create a poll on whether or not this is appropriate for a Torah forum?
So this is not appropriate. But banning everything under the sun, and engaging in the most vile and vitriolic racist lashon hora is appropriate for a torah forum? I'm no Torah scholar. But I'm pretty sure that this is not the Jewish or Torah way.
Oh brother ;D Every time I think of this post I am going to snicker to my self people will think I am nuts all due to the above post. Exactly what racist "lashon hora" is it to speak the truth. I think it would be "lashon hora" to ignore evil and not try to do something about it. JTF is one of the most appropriate forums around. The fact that we have so many different groups all basically getting along under one banner is proof positive of that fact. It really is funny to see how people will use Torah or any other religious teaching to suite their own whims.
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I dont know but I sure hope they are chocolate chip cookies and cheesecake:P
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Me too
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listen, i was just got kind of annoyed that some people here had the opinion that "hitting" on girls was not appropriate for this forum. But it turns out those peoples' interpretation of "hitting on" was different from what I meant...
I have to admit, however, that what I was feeling was a sense of bitterness and frustration by some males on this forum and that's why they refused to want to talk about it.
And so out of anger and jest i posted the original poll..which yaacov took the liberty to change a little bit because he probably knew I was annoyed and was doing this in jest..so he returned the favor which was, quite frankly, a cool thing to do...my anger eased after that. :) and that's why I had nothing to respond to about eating cookies...
Rather...Cookie is my dog's name...and she can say "Ra Rav Roo"...most of you saw the youtube video already.
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WE should love our women day and night that is what I hate about valentine's Day....
Sweet thought, but not many men do it.
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Oh, seems pretty tasty to me.
Is it vanilla cake or chocolate cake?
Can I have ice cream too :::D
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Hitting :)on them does not mean a sexual experience.
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Hitting :)on them does not mean a sexual experience.
No means hormone levels are up lol ;D
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LOL.Right is right but we are humans!
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Hitting :)on them does not mean a sexual experience.
Only if your lucky it does! ;D
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:laugh:
Funny!
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Eat him dammit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Eat him dammit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ROFLMAO! I leaving that completely ALONE!
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I WOULD LIKE TO SEE DANNYCOOKIE EAT HIS WORDS O0
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Hitting :)on them does not mean a sexual experience.
No means hormone levels are up lol ;D
Don't we bleed?
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I WOULD LIKE TO SEE DANNYCOOKIE EAT HIS WORDS O0
Munch munch munch...
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Hitting :)on them does not mean a sexual experience.
No means hormone levels are up lol ;D
Don't we bleed?
Wanna bet :::D :P