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The Worldwide Crisis of Islam => The Truth About Islam => Topic started by: דוד בן זאב אריה on February 05, 2009, 11:44:47 AM
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What Muslims Want
Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srigEkBRf7o&feature=related
Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6yMyWiAKf0&feature=related
Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_qUDQcT3lc&feature=related
Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSfpzTtOtx8&feature=related
Part 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwSiO9StdJk&feature=related
Part 6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxkiauB7XFs&feature=related
Part 7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovxE5UD6mNs&feature=related
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What Muslims Want
Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srigEkBRf7o&feature=related
Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6yMyWiAKf0&feature=related
Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_qUDQcT3lc&feature=related
Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSfpzTtOtx8&feature=related
Part 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwSiO9StdJk&feature=related
Part 6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxkiauB7XFs&feature=related
Part 7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovxE5UD6mNs&feature=related
Good videos. These so called moderate Moslems are subserviant to the radicals. I don't buy into that belief that there are moderate Moslems.
Some Moslems may appear peaceful and openly condem terrorism, but this is just an act.
If the Majority of Moslems (1.5 billion) were peaceful...there would be no terrorism today.
Shalom
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Got stranded by the weather in London a few days ago and was given accommodation in Southall. Now there's an education, believe me.
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Got stranded by the weather in London a few days ago and was given accommodation in Southall. Now there's an education, believe me.
Was it infested with Moslems?
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Some parts of these videos reminds me to my town.
They should go back where they are from and practice their [censored] there.
We don't need your death cult here!
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Wow I watched this.
I was a little bit surprised about some of the statistics and people though. I thought that Moslem women had to marry only who is chosen for them, and yet, the video shows that most of them choose their own husbands. Also, it said only 8 in 1000 have the most extreme views, but I thought maybe 8 in 1000 of them were moderates.
But that black guy is crazy. The one with the thing on his head. :laugh:
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Some Moslems may appear peaceful and openly condem terrorism, but this is just an act.
If the Majority of Moslems (1.5 billion) were peaceful...there would be no terrorism today.
Shalom
I think that those that appear peaceful are the most dangerous. After all, isn't that a perfect "suicide bomber"?
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The UK is heating up. Their agenda is advancing and they have the full support of the far-left and even the moderate liberal left.
Only a tiny section of the far-left oppose them now.
New Labour has begun severing ties with their extremist 'advisors', but too little too late.
Only the BNP can stop the Islamification of Britain.
I will post an article about this in due course.
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Did anyone see the rioting in UK and around the Bank of Scotland. More uprisings daily all over the world. I hope everyone has a weapon to defend themselves!
God Bless.
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Did anyone see the rioting in UK and around the Bank of Scotland. More uprisings daily all over the world. I hope everyone has a weapon to defend themselves!
G-d Bless.
I live in North-West London, which has felt the Credit Crunch more than other areas.
Seven retail outlets are closing down on Hampstead High Road, which is in one of the most expensive parts of London.
I am currently abroad, but I wonder what I am going to go back to. I might 'run' away to another town, less affected by the crunch, but really there is no escape.
We do not have guns in the UK. There are two European countries which have guns, and they are the wealthiest countries in Europe. They are Switzerland and Norway, both of which are outside the European Union.
We have vast swathes of our nations populated by immigrants who are partially or totally dependent upon welfare.
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Did anyone see the rioting in UK and around the Bank of Scotland. More uprisings daily all over the world. I hope everyone has a weapon to defend themselves!
G-d Bless.
I live in North-West London, which has felt the Credit Crunch more than other areas.
Seven retail outlets are closing down on Hampstead High Road, which is in one of the most expensive parts of London.
I am currently abroad, but I wonder what I am going to go back to. I might 'run' away to another town, less affected by the crunch, but really there is no escape.
We do not have guns in the UK. There are two European countries which have guns, and they are the wealthiest countries in Europe. They are Switzerland and Norway, both of which are outside the European Union.
We have vast swathes of our nations populated by immigrants who are partially or totally dependent upon welfare.
I agree totally, but I have to add that from 7 years running a Post Office on a white trash council estate, where immigrants are non-existent because they are beaten up on sight, they are only part of the problem. The rest is the non-working class benefit seekers in families with up to three generations of sponging on the rest of us.
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I was interested in what the one lady said in the museum: "If you take away their habitat, they cannot survive." We should apply that to them.
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There has been a muslim religious leader appointed to the BBC. It will be interesting to see what he does to shut out other religions.
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Muslims make up only 2.7% of the UK's population and look how much trouble they cause. I haven't seen the videos in the OP but I suspect that the problem is bigger than most people realize. Hopefully the BNP will win the election and that can check the muslim rise to power. I have a feeling that over this summer there will be a number of muslim riots in Britain.
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What Muslims Want
Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srigEkBRf7o&feature=related
Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6yMyWiAKf0&feature=related
Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_qUDQcT3lc&feature=related
Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSfpzTtOtx8&feature=related
Part 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwSiO9StdJk&feature=related
Part 6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxkiauB7XFs&feature=related
Part 7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovxE5UD6mNs&feature=related
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At least in one country in Europe there must be a large scale and lenthy cycle of violence should happen. Then only the leftist morons will wake up.
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a-rab muslims breed like cockroaches. Stealing our oxygen.
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Once again Muslims deceived by propoganda that Bush and Israel caused 911 so they could blame it on the Muslims.
I do however believe that Diana and Dody Al Fayed were targetted because of their relationship by the government of Great Britain, because she was on the verge of marrying him!
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The muslim population in Britain has increased by more than 600,000 to over 2.5 million in just four years (04-08). The rate of increase for muslims is ten times greater than the rest of the population.
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The movie is quite interesting and informative, but I think its flawed a lot, unfortunately.
You can't compare a religion to a country, its like comparing apples with papayas. he asked whether islam fits into the secular, liberal, free British society, and the answer is no. But again, would Christianity fits with these rules? would a true christian accepts premarital sex? would he accepts homosexuality? would jodaism accept them!? No. He asked questions and got answers for not only Islam, but also Christianity and Judaism. He should have asked questions regarding specific verses in the Koran that DO contradict with the values and quality of life of the british society. One example would be the beatings of women in Islam, or the multiple marriages.
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This is truly frightening. If there is such a thing as moderate islam, then where were they during 9/11 or 7/7? They were certainly in overabundance when a few cartoons offended them. The lack of muslim outrage for these terrorist attacks only enforces the fact that there is no such thing as "moderate" islam. The way that they are breeding and taking over Europe thanks to Political Correctness, leaves us to wonder if the US can be far behind. Not to mention the way our "president" panders to these Barbarians in the US, Europoe and the middle east. These people are ignorant to the concept of birth control, much like the blacks in the US (and the more kids they have, the more they are rewarded by the government). Thier only goal is to impose sharia law on everyone else. They have no sense of patriotism and are slowly turning the western world into a third world state.
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I read The Daily Mail Newspaper online (A British newspaper), and that is an education of what will become of America if we do not stop the flow of them NOW! The UK now has a minimum of 500,000 Brits leaving the UK each year, that is according to their government, because of the socialism of NuLabour Government as they call it, and the extraordinary influx of Muslims breeding them out of house and country. They covert 12 year old British kids on the street, and have Mullah's living off of benefits in that country who declare openly that the Islamic flag will be flying over the UK within a few years and Shariah law will be the law of the land.
I see the UK, and I think this will be the U.S. unless it is nipped in the bud now. Right now.
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I can understand why the 2nd and 3rd generation Muslims are more radical.
Most of 1st generation Muslim immigrants wanted to ESCAPE the Muslim lands.
The 2nd and 3rd generations don't know the reality of Sharia Law, and they begin becoming proud of their heritage. That';s when they become dangerous.
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I can understand why the 2nd and 3rd generation Muslims are more radical.
Most of 1st generation Muslim immigrants wanted to ESCAPE the Muslim lands.
The 2nd and 3rd generations don't know the reality of Sharia Law, and they begin becoming proud of their heritage. That';s when they become dangerous.
You are right, and elements of Sharia law are already enforceable. However, I would also add that the first generation were so shocked by the promiscuity, drinking, drug taking and work-shy ethics of the modern British youth that they resorted to bringing in brides from Pakistan, a process which continues to this day, such that the whole cultural separation continued and assimilation never happened, all aided by the separatism policies encouraged by successive governments. You see, separation is fine so long as you are Muslim. It is disgraceful if you are Scottish, Welsh or Irish. Learn and think double-speak to survive in the modern UK.
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hah these guys are really brainwashed, its starts as soon as they have 1000 kids, poor children are robbed of their innocence.
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The movie is quite interesting and informative, but I think its flawed a lot, unfortunately.
You can't compare a religion to a country, its like comparing apples with papayas. he asked whether islam fits into the secular, liberal, free British society, and the answer is no. But again, would Christianity fits with these rules? would a true christian accepts premarital sex? would he accepts homosexuality?
however, I don't think that either jews or christians would try to force others to be like them, and feel offended that others do not respect their laws & rules (which I think muslims do).
And I think that muslims understand that "their voice must be heard" (that is, UK must do as they command) or suicide bombing is ok. And I think neither christians nor jews are like that.
And I think it's obvious that even muslims that study at a high degree of university are not 'smarter' than the others because their education (or, shall I say, indoctrination?) is Islamic, while only the teaching for profession (i.e. medicine, psychology, etc.) is british.
Anyway, it's interesting that the same foolish things taught in islamic countries by muslims are found and believed in non-islamic countries as well.
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Once again Muslims deceived by propoganda that Bush and Israel caused 911...
I don't know about you, but I think many non-muslim people believe that there was actually no terrorist attack in either USA or UK (because of things like Zeitgeist). I was even once told my somebody "Come one, everyone knows that it was Bush that did that!".
I had also seriously doubted that it was muslims who did that, for a period, until I watched this:
http://fora.tv/2008/04/23/Walid_Phares-The_Confrontation_with_Jihad
which seems much more plausible.
by the way, have you watched this (there are 6 videos):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLroyYtbf1o
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expect it not to be very smart (you will notice that from the title :))).
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it doesn't matter, because you can see that in holland already(where I come from) when a muslim needs help the mayor runs to the muslim community but if a jewish person needs help he can *stick it* if you know what I mean, shouldn't it be the other way around? muslims don't work and jewish people do, we should bully the muslims out instead of letting marrocan teens do the hitler thing to rabby's(did I spell rabby's good?) anyway
call me frederick:)
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I think nowhere in the world is justice. If not a religious issue, people turn a blind eye for money, for their own interests, don't care but about themselves and everybody sees as bad or guilty others and never himself.
So, don't worry, jews are not the only ones who suffer injustice. It happens everywhere, to many people.
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why are people here supporting the BNP? nearly all of the BNP supporters ive ever bumped into online are nazis.
also, what do you think of UKIP?
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it doesn't matter, because you can see that in holland already(where I come from) when a muslim needs help the mayor runs to the muslim community but if a jewish person needs help he can *stick it* if you know what I mean, shouldn't it be the other way around? muslims don't work and jewish people do, we should bully the muslims out instead of letting marrocan teens do the hitler thing to rabby's(did I spell rabby's good?) anyway
call me frederick:)
Job Cohen looks the other way when Jews are beaten up by muslims. Luckily, there is Geert Wilders.
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why are people here supporting the BNP? nearly all of the BNP supporters ive ever bumped into online are nazis.
also, what do you think of UKIP?
I never met a BNP nazi but yes, I certainly prefer UKIP over the BNP.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1waGanUNt0
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why are people here supporting the BNP? nearly all of the BNP supporters ive ever bumped into online are nazis.
also, what do you think of UKIP?
I wish to know more. Maybe you can give me basic information regarding the UKIP since you so much "above" me cause of my language barrier.
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why are people here supporting the BNP? nearly all of the BNP supporters ive ever bumped into online are nazis.
also, what do you think of UKIP?
I wish to know more. Maybe you can give me basic information regarding the UKIP since you so much "above" me cause of my language barrier.
Stop spamming the site, and stop pretending everyone is the same member all out to get you collectively (or as one person).
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Stop spamming the site, and stop pretending everyone is the same member all out to get you collectively (or as one person).
I see. So why so many accounts respond to me with the same argument. You and you friends done nothing more that point out on my grammar errors because of language barrier. So i am saving your time by typing constant warnings. You will deny all that and not answer my question because my English is not my mother language. What else do you want me to say? I should leave because you sad so? So you do put yourself "above" me. All the time, include now. Or you going to delete this message as well due to language barrier? There are many other options, such as ignoring which very hard for you to accomplish it seems.
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why are people here supporting the BNP? nearly all of the BNP supporters ive ever bumped into online are nazis.
also, what do you think of UKIP?
I never met a BNP nazi but yes, I certainly prefer UKIP over the BNP.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1waGanUNt0
I'm a BNP supporter, I'm online and I am definitely not a nazi.
:dance:
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Also it is not above the leftist traitors to go online posing as BNP
and then say lots of fascist things to deliberately give bad impression.
The losers.
I supported UKIP for a while but they are basically too wet and weak to make a difference.
Except Nigel Farage the leader but not everyone is him.
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I'm a BNP supporter, I'm online and I am definitely not a nazi.
:dance:
Then I still haven't met a BNP nazi, talked to various BNP supporters online ;-)
I'm never to sure what to make of these stories about the BNP because, from my own experience, I know the Left tends to make these stories up. I still prefer UKIP though, love seeing that Farage guy rape gung ho EU MP's.
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Wow!!!
This is insane! I could never imagine living in such a city!
I would have been arrested for murder attempt.
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Islam will dominate Europe. First, they'll take over France and the UK, then they'll gradually take the Netherlands, Italy, Spain and maybe Germany too. Isn't it nice. Your life will be much better under Shari'a laws. You boneless European Idiots! You'll get what you deserve. You defend these animals, you let them into your countries, you tolerate their malicious, satanic ''religion'' - but eventually their swords will be laid upon your necks, and then, with shaking knees, you'll say; ''No other god but Allah, and Muhammad, the prophet of Allah.'' - that's the exact way they took over the entire middle east, and Europe will be the same.
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The UK is heating up. Their agenda is advancing and they have the full support of the far-left and even the moderate liberal left.
Only a tiny section of the far-left oppose them now.
New Labour has begun severing ties with their extremist 'advisors', but too little too late.
Only the BNP can stop the Islamification of Britain.
I will post an article about this in due course.
I am afraid The BNP are not in a position to do much about the Islamification of The UK as for New Labour they are the worst appeasers of fundamental Islam in The UK. The BNP have very little public support as the racist card has been played for so long in The UK and its the same for any group/party with Britain or British in its title.
New Labour and our socialist councils allied with the ''Human Rights'' groups in the UK have done a great job of brainwashing the public and in particular our schoolkids to see Islam as a peaceful Religion with a ''few'' extremists in its midst.
No the only ones that can stop the Islamification of the UK is the people themselves the political class are to busy whoreing for the Islamic vote and selling out their countrymen to appear Islam friendly to our so-called allies in the war on terror.
Our media particularly The BBC is very Anti-Israel/Pro Islam and is so scared to take fundamentalist Islam to task as is our government in case our well integrated British born Muslims start to blow the seven shades out of our city centres.
I am afraid in The UK we are already under a form of self imposed Sharia Law as are many European countries.
Until we speak out and admit to ourselves that it is not a few fundamentalists that are the problem worldwide we risk losing to the terrorists.
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I am afraid The BNP are not in a position to do much about the Islamification of The UK as for New Labour they are the worst appeasers of fundamental Islam in The UK. The BNP have very little public support as the racist card has been played for so long in The UK and its the same for any group/party with Britain or British in its title.
New Labour and our socialist councils allied with the ''Human Rights'' groups in the UK have done a great job of brainwashing the public and in particular our schoolkids to see Islam as a peaceful Religion with a ''few'' extremists in its midst.
No the only ones that can stop the Islamification of the UK is the people themselves the political class are to busy whoreing for the Islamic vote and selling out their countrymen to appear Islam friendly to our so-called allies in the war on terror.
Our media particularly The BBC is very Anti-Israel/Pro Islam and is so scared to take fundamentalist Islam to task as is our government in case our well integrated British born Muslims start to blow the seven shades out of our city centres.
I am afraid in The UK we are already under a form of self imposed Sharia Law as are many European countries.
Until we speak out and admit to ourselves that it is not a few fundamentalists that are the problem worldwide we risk losing to the terrorists.
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A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.
An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself.
For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.
The traitor is the plague.?
Marcus Tullius Cicero (Ancient Roman Lawyer, Writer, Scholar, Orator and Statesman, 106 BC-43
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Oh goodness, don't bring up Muslims in the UK.... I was discussing 9/11 with one of my friends at school, and how, on 9/11, the Muslims of london felt it was appropriate to burn an American flag. When I said "Those *******s should be hung for what they did.", a Muslim girl pops behind me and says "They have a right to freedom of expression". I wanted to punch her.
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OnceNDone -
Have you heard of the 1st Amendment? If it applies to you, it applies to anyone whose views you do not like. If they want to burn the US flag that is indeed their right, and that right is sacrosanct in America.
There is also no Sharia Law on UK statute books. Zero, none. It is a myth up there with Mohammed being the most popular name in the UK. Simply not true.
Given the reaction to the initial videos, comments on this video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEGvBD1ltVQ
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The Muzzies will only get a bullet fired into the back of head, and a pig skin bodybag! :dance:
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OnceNDone -
Have you heard of the 1st Amendment? If it applies to you, it applies to anyone whose views you do not like. If they want to burn the US flag that is indeed their right, and that right is sacrosanct in America.
There is also no Sharia Law on UK statute books. Zero, none. It is a myth up there with Mohammed being the most popular name in the UK. Simply not true.
Given the reaction to the initial videos, comments on this video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEGvBD1ltVQ
Burning an American flag might be allowed, but only an amoral piece of scum would do it on a day of remembrance such as 9/11. Defending such an act in any way, shape, or form is just spewing liberal garbage.
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Islam is an arab supremesist creed,and it's goal is to conquer the world for Mohammed's (piss be upon him) alter-ego,'allah'.
It really is that simple.
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Powell was right! He must be laughing in his grave !
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The professional career politicians here in Britain, are like the able description of Hilary Clinton in the video about her on the front page of JTF ~ highly deceptive/ double-tongued, and untrustworthy...
I see no change here, short-term or mid-term, for the better...
Britain is in a bad way, the government has NO Idea how many immigrants are here, even where I live in Northern Scotland has proportionately masses of immigrants swallowing up jobs and welfare..
What Niklas said is Accurate ~ I am afraid The BNP are not in a position to do much about the Islamification of The UK as for New Labour they are the worst appeasers of fundamental Islam in The UK. The BNP have very little public support as the racist card has been played for so long in The UK and its the same for any group/party with Britain or British in its title.
New Labour and our socialist councils allied with the ''Human Rights'' groups in the UK have done a great job of brainwashing the public and in particular our schoolkids to see Islam as a peaceful Religion with a ''few'' extremists in its midst.
No the only ones that can stop the Islamification of the UK is the people themselves the political class are to busy whoreing for the Islamic vote and selling out their countrymen to appear Islam friendly to our so-called allies in the war on terror.
Our media particularly The BBC is very Anti-Israel/Pro Islam and is so scared to take fundamentalist Islam to task as is our government in case our well integrated British born Muslims start to blow the seven shades out of our city centres.
I am afraid in The UK we are already under a form of self imposed Sharia Law as are many European countries.
Until we speak out and admit to ourselves that it is not a few fundamentalists that are the problem worldwide we risk losing to the terrorists.
The Above is a Quote from Niklas
The political elite live like royalty at our expense and are untouchable.... by mortals anyway..
"It is appointed unto men to die, and then the Judgment"
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Is a moderate Moslem like a moderate Nazi???
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Is a moderate Moslem like a moderate Nazi???
Some like that. Just as some of the National Socialists say they are against hate and murder but there ideology tells us diffrent. So there are no moderate muslims because a muslim lives the rules of the Quran. Same like that the nazi's live by the rules of Hitler, the NSDAP and Mein Kampf.
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I offer them Social Eugenics ! Enoch Powell was right! >:(
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Here is an excellent video with Robert Spencer and Michael Coren on Muslim mobs in Britain and more (aired June 13 on Sun News):
http://worldmediamonitoring.com/video-robert-spencer-michael-coren-muslim-mobs-britain/