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The Worldwide Crisis of Islam => The Truth About Islam => Topic started by: Ari on June 24, 2007, 08:34:57 PM

Title: The Religion of Peace!
Post by: Ari on June 24, 2007, 08:34:57 PM
Whoever gave this ridiculous moniker to Islam?  Were they trying to be sarcastic?
Title: Re: The Religion of Peace!
Post by: Hail Columbia on June 24, 2007, 08:53:21 PM
It's part of taqiyya.
Title: Re: The Religion of Peace!
Post by: Shoshana on June 25, 2007, 12:24:55 AM
It's just BS political correctness.
Islam is a "religion" of hatred and violence. Bush is wrong for saying otherwise as is anyone else who would say the same.
Title: Re: The Religion of Peace!
Post by: newman on June 25, 2007, 08:41:39 AM
As Rabbi Tovia Singer says....It's not the religion of peace but the religion if pieces. They want a piece of a rabbi's lung, a piece of a jewess's leg, a piece of a jewish childs arm etc.

He's right too.
Title: Re: The Religion of Peace!
Post by: ScotcH on June 25, 2007, 10:20:03 AM
That Arab PSYCHO Muhammad must have been on some Heavy Acid to believe that the Insane Cult Novel he epiphanized or more likely Hallucinated was a pathway to PEACE  :laugh:  ???

It's been only a pathway to Death and utter Destruction !
In fact Nazi-Murderers like Hitler were so infatuated with the book even though the Arabs were by no means Nordic, he believed the German people would be better of as Muslims because the Novel's doctrines would make them more "efficient Killers"!   
Title: Re: The Religion of Peace!
Post by: Sarah on June 25, 2007, 05:36:06 PM
Islam doesn't even mean peace, it means submission, directly translated but stems from a third root of the word Salaam which means peace.
The meaning has been twisted.
Title: Re: The Religion of Peace!
Post by: Shlomo on June 25, 2007, 11:45:10 PM
As Rabbi Tovia Singer says....It's not the religion of peace but the religion if pieces. They want a piece of a rabbi's lung, a piece of a jewess's leg, a piece of a jewish childs arm etc.

He's right too.

HAHAHA! I love that one!

I have it on MP3. I love when he 'translated' the arabic: "I like their little hats. Where can I get one?"
Title: Re: The Religion of Peace!
Post by: Mstislav on July 06, 2007, 04:42:25 PM
Islam doesn't even mean peace, it means submission, directly translated but stems from a third root of the word Salaam which means peace.
The meaning has been twisted.

'Peace' comes when non muslims either submits to islam (convert), become dhimmis paying the jizya or are killed off and islam becomes dominant with no opposition.


Ban muslim immigration now!!
Title: Re: The Religion of Peace!
Post by: newman on July 06, 2007, 05:03:52 PM
As Rabbi Tovia Singer says....It's not the religion of peace but the religion if pieces. They want a piece of a rabbi's lung, a piece of a jewess's leg, a piece of a jewish childs arm etc.

He's right too.

HAHAHA! I love that one!

I have it on MP3. I love when he 'translated' the arabic: "I like their little hats. Where can I get one?"

Wasn't that a scream? I loved it. (arab): "blah blah blah yehudi blah blah jihad blah blah jihad blah yehudi" (Tovia's translation) " I can't wait to kiss my next Jew" LOL :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: The Religion of Peace!
Post by: ScotcH on July 06, 2007, 05:14:11 PM
It may be interesting to note that there are Recovering MUSLIM NAZI Members in our midsts !
Interested ... :P
Title: Re: The Religion of Peace!
Post by: Sarah on July 06, 2007, 05:16:23 PM
It may be interesting to note that there are Recovering MUSLIM NAZI Members in our midsts !
Interested ... :P


I have never been a nazi. Even when i was a muslim i didn't share the same racist views as you.
Title: Re: The Religion of Peace!
Post by: newman on July 06, 2007, 05:19:11 PM
It may be interesting to note that there are Recovering MUSLIM NAZI Members in our midsts !
Interested ... :P


I have never been a nazi. Even when i was a muslim i didn't share the same racist views as you.
Dearest Sarah,

He's just winding you up.
Title: Re: The Religion of Peace!
Post by: ScotcH on July 06, 2007, 05:32:04 PM
It doesn't matter Now !

Tell your Pity Party stories to your local Scheherazade !!

To be a SUBMISSIVE MUSLIM OF DEATH IS TO BE A NAZI AGAINST THE "GREAT WHITE WEST"

So how many pilgrimages did you make to DREK MECCA !
Title: Re: The Religion of Peace!
Post by: Sarah on July 06, 2007, 05:47:19 PM
It doesn't matter Now !

Tell your Pity Party stories to your local Scheherazade !!

To be a SUBMISSIVE MUSLIM OF DEATH IS TO BE A NAZI AGAINST THE "GREAT WHITE WEST"

So how many pilgrimages did you make to DREK MECCA !

None.

I really do believe you are drunk. I'm serious.
Title: Re: The Religion of Peace!
Post by: Mstislav on July 07, 2007, 10:13:02 AM
To be a SUBMISSIVE MUSLIM OF DEATH IS TO BE A NAZI AGAINST THE "GREAT WHITE WEST"

Not only the West, but everywhere not succumbed to sharia.

Title: Re: The Religion of Peace!
Post by: Abdullah on July 08, 2007, 04:28:20 AM
In reponse to the first post, Islam is not a religion of peace. If you fight us we Will fight back. Are you claiming that Christianity or Judaism are "Religions of Peace"???
Title: Re: The Religion of Peace!
Post by: newman on July 08, 2007, 04:30:38 AM
In reponse to the first post, Islam is not a religion of peace. If you fight us we Will fight back. Are you claiming that Christianity or Judaism are "Religions of Peace"???

Judaism does not seek to conquer the whole world. Islam does.
Title: Re: The Religion of Peace!
Post by: Abdullah on July 08, 2007, 04:58:48 AM
Islam is trying to conquer the world!!??!!??
Maybe I missed that meeting but it seems that you don't have you facts straight. Islam can't be forced upon others as it has to be , by its very definition, a voulntary submission to the will of God
Title: Re: The Religion of Peace!
Post by: newman on July 08, 2007, 05:06:32 AM
Islam is trying to conquer the world!!??!!??
Maybe I missed that meeting but it seems that you don't have you facts straight. Islam can't be forced upon others as it has to be , by its very definition, a voulntary submission to the will of G-d

Bull..............!!

Qur'an:8:39 "Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah."


Title: Re: The Religion of Peace!
Post by: Abdullah on July 08, 2007, 05:08:12 AM
I challenge you to include the  two lines before and after that!!!!
Title: Re: The Religion of Peace!
Post by: newman on July 08, 2007, 05:20:04 AM
I challenge you to include the  two lines before and after that!!!!

What are they then?
Title: Re: The Religion of Peace!
Post by: Abdullah on July 08, 2007, 05:36:02 AM
189 They ask you (O Muhammad SAW) about the new moons. Say: These are signs to mark fixed periods of time for mankind and for the pilgrimage. It is not Al-Birr (piety, righteousness, etc.) that you enter the houses from the back but Al-Birr (is the quality of the one) who fears Allah. So enter houses through their proper doors, and fear Allah that you may be successful.   
 190 And fight in the Way of Allah those who fight you, but transgress not the limits. Truly, Allah likes not the transgressors. (This Verse is the first one that was revealed in connection with Jihad, but it was supplemented by another (V.9:36)).   
 191 And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah is worse than killing. And fight not with them at Al-Masjid-al-Haram (the sanctuary at Makkah), unless they (first) fight you there. But if they attack you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.   
 192 But if they cease, then Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.   
 193 And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah) and (all and every kind of) worship is for Allah (Alone). But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimoon (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)   
 194 The sacred month is for the sacred month, and for the prohibited things, there is the Law of Equality (Qisas). Then whoever transgresses the prohibition against you, you transgress likewise against him. And fear Allah, and know that Allah is with Al-Muttaqoon (the pious - see V.2:2) .   
 195 And spend in the Cause of Allah (i.e. Jihad of all kinds, etc.) and do not throw yourselves into destruction (by not spending your wealth in the Cause of Allah), and do good. Truly, Allah loves Al-Muhsinoon (the good-doers). 
Title: Re: The Religion of Peace!
Post by: newman on July 08, 2007, 05:39:33 AM
189 They ask you (O Muhammad SAW) about the new moons. Say: These are signs to mark fixed periods of time for mankind and for the pilgrimage. It is not Al-Birr (piety, righteousness, etc.) that you enter the houses from the back but Al-Birr (is the quality of the one) who fears Allah. So enter houses through their proper doors, and fear Allah that you may be successful.   
 190 And fight in the Way of Allah those who fight you, but transgress not the limits. Truly, Allah likes not the transgressors. (This Verse is the first one that was revealed in connection with Jihad, but it was supplemented by another (V.9:36)).   
 191 And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah is worse than killing. And fight not with them at Al-Masjid-al-Haram (the sanctuary at Makkah), unless they (first) fight you there. But if they attack you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.   
 192 But if they cease, then Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.   
 193 And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah) and (all and every kind of) worship is for Allah (Alone). But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimoon (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)   
 194 The sacred month is for the sacred month, and for the prohibited things, there is the Law of Equality (Qisas). Then whoever transgresses the prohibition against you, you transgress likewise against him. And fear Allah, and know that Allah is with Al-Muttaqoon (the pious - see V.2:2) .   
 195 And spend in the Cause of Allah (i.e. Jihad of all kinds, etc.) and do not throw yourselves into destruction (by not spending your wealth in the Cause of Allah), and do good. Truly, Allah loves Al-Muhsinoon (the good-doers). 


Big deal! That just says to stop fighting them if they cease their true religion and start believing in the moon-god of mecca......so what? It just proves islam's intollerence of other religions.
Title: Re: The Religion of Peace!
Post by: Abdullah on July 08, 2007, 05:45:00 AM
Actually it says if they cease then stop fighting them.
If you can't back up your lies then don't spread them, Peace
Title: Re: The Religion of Peace!
Post by: newman on July 08, 2007, 05:49:10 AM
Actually it says if they cease then stop fighting them.
If you can't back up your lies then don't spread them, Peace

Read it again, camel humper. It says fight them until there is no more disbelief.
Title: Re: The Religion of Peace!
Post by: Abdullah on July 08, 2007, 06:01:33 AM
Are you joking? "Camel humper"? Am I talking with an eight year old? I've already told you by the way that I'm White, AND American, I've only seen camels in the Zoo. It says "but do not transgress the limits". Do you know what they are? From what your saying I don't think you do. Why not read the Qur'an before you try to disprove it.
Title: Re: The Religion of Peace!
Post by: newman on July 08, 2007, 06:10:27 AM
Are you joking? "Camel humper"? Am I talking with an eight year old? I've already told you by the way that I'm White, AND American, I've only seen camels in the Zoo. It says "but do not transgress the limits". Do you know what they are? From what your saying I don't think you do. Why not read the Qur'an before you try to disprove it.

No religious text ever written can be proved or disproved. A sencible person looks at the results of a religions teachings. The results of sand-ape islam are poverty, cruelty, barbarism, slavery, corruption, government-sanctioed rape, and it's adherants fleeing to the christian west. That's the proof/disproof.

The jews have survived 2000 years without a country and endired 2000 years of cruelty and genocide. Not only are they still here, but they are affluent and have defeated muslim clown armies 10 times bigger than theirs. All of this was prophesised in the Torah...........That is the proof......facts, history, reallity. Not the ramblings of an illiterate arab rapist and slave trader.
Title: Re: The Religion of Peace!
Post by: Abdullah on July 08, 2007, 06:18:26 AM
You claim military superiority.... Were you born after last summer?
If you don't recall The Hezbollah defeated the zionist in combat, Israel only killed civilians.
Its not so hard to fight the weakest countries in the world... but to lose??
I can only wonder what will happen when Israel fights Iran ;D
Title: Re: The Religion of Peace!
Post by: cjd on July 08, 2007, 06:22:09 AM
Are you joking? "Camel humper"? Am I talking with an eight year old? I've already told you by the way that I'm White, AND American, I've only seen camels in the Zoo. It says "but do not transgress the limits". Do you know what they are? From what your saying I don't think you do. Why not read the Qur'an before you try to disprove it.
Abdullah, Why should I waste my time reading that piece of garbage and try to make heads or tails of it when so much of it has to do with killing the disbelievers. The actions of the Muslim people as a whole by action and inaction is all I need to prove to me what it is I am dealing with. I have no desire to debate chapter and verse with you people.
Title: Re: The Religion of Peace!
Post by: newman on July 08, 2007, 06:25:16 AM
You claim military superiority.... Were you born after last summer?
If you don't recall The Hezbollah defeated the zionist in combat, Israel only killed civilians.
Its not so hard to fight the weakest countries in the world... but to lose??
I can only wonder what will happen when Israel fights Iran ;D
What a joke!
Israel could wipe islam off the map if they weren't trying to be so decent. The combined arab armies have tried to defeat Israel in 48, 56, 67 and 73 and been smashed in very short time on every occasion when they out-numbered Israel 100-1. You think the backward sand-apes in Iran will do any better?...............dream on.
Title: Re: The Religion of Peace!
Post by: mord on July 08, 2007, 06:26:34 AM
Discuss it with Sarah she went to islamic school her whole life she is now a Noahide she will tell you exactly what the koran and hadiths say.She was born a moslem now has left it.
Title: Re: The Religion of Peace!
Post by: cjd on July 08, 2007, 06:27:17 AM
You claim military superiority.... Were you born after last summer?
If you don't recall The Hezbollah defeated the zionist in combat, Israel only killed civilians.
Its not so hard to fight the weakest countries in the world... but to lose??
I can only wonder what will happen when Israel fights Iran ;D
If you want to deceive yourself that the IDF was making a real attempt to accomplish anything go right ahead. That was only  token resistance. If they were unrestrained by the Israeli government it would have been a very different picture.
Title: Re: The Religion of Peace!
Post by: newman on July 08, 2007, 07:22:33 AM
Just over an hour since his last post. Exit one muslim terrorist.
Title: Re: The Religion of Peace!
Post by: ftf on July 08, 2007, 08:14:36 AM
Abdullah, go and look at:  193 "And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah) and (all and every kind of) worship is for Allah (Alone). But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimoon (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)" again.
Title: Re: The Religion of Peace!
Post by: Abdullah on July 09, 2007, 03:04:43 PM
I'm not exactly sure what your looking for? Do you want an explanation of the verse? As for the "Moslem terrorist" comment its spelled M-U-S-L-I-M. I do want to appologise about the Hezbollah comments as it really had nothing to do with the topic and could only start trouble. Peace
Title: Re: The Religion of Peace!
Post by: newman on July 09, 2007, 03:14:12 PM
I'm not exactly sure what your looking for? Do you want an explanation of the verse? As for the "Moslem terrorist" comment its spelled M-U-S-L-I-M. I do want to appologise about the Hezbollah comments as it really had nothing to do with the topic and could only start trouble. Peace

It's was spelled 'moslem' in England/ Australia for decades. It should be spelled T-E-R-R-O-R-I-S-T!
Title: Re: The Religion of Peace!
Post by: Abdullah on July 09, 2007, 03:42:02 PM
Its just not a very accurat transliteration of the Arabic.Peace
Title: Re: The Religion of Peace!
Post by: ftf on July 09, 2007, 03:46:25 PM
That verse, note, it's the translation you provided leaves little room for argument, fight the non-believers till there is no more non-belief. If that isn't what it means, explain it to me.
Title: Re: The Religion of Peace!
Post by: Mstislav on July 09, 2007, 03:50:09 PM
In reponse to the first post, Islam is not a religion of peace. If you fight us we Will fight back. Are you claiming that Christianity or Judaism are "Religions of Peace"???

You do the attacking and when met with resistance, you cry victim and use that excuse to carry on killing.
Title: Re: The Religion of Peace!
Post by: Abdullah on July 09, 2007, 04:43:38 PM
ftf you misunderstand me, I was talking about the spelling of Muslim as moslem.
Title: Re: The Religion of Peace!
Post by: Wayne Jude on July 09, 2007, 05:37:19 PM
The great President George Bush said it , I think.I cant stand him... :P
Title: Re: The Religion of Peace!
Post by: Sarah on July 10, 2007, 02:31:14 PM
ftf you misunderstand me, I was talking about the spelling of Muslim as moslem.

It isn't a translation only transliteration and can be spelled however as it doesn't distort the meaning at all.

Everyone has their own tounge of speech, on grounds of pronounciation it will differ anyhow.
Title: Re: The Religion of Peace!
Post by: Shechinah on July 10, 2007, 02:33:05 PM
I also prefer 'Muhammad' to 'Mohammad' to keep it consistent with 'Muslim'.

Muhammadan is my favourite word of them all.   :P
Title: Re: The Religion of Peace!
Post by: ftf on July 10, 2007, 04:24:47 PM
I personally hate all of the words Islam, Muslim, Moslem, Mohammed, Mohammedan, as they make me think of the single most dangerous physical threat to the world that I live in.
Title: Re: The Religion of Peace!
Post by: Shlomo on July 10, 2007, 05:51:48 PM
I like spelling the word koran like "t o i l e t  p a p e r". It just sounds nicer.
Title: Re: The Religion of Peace!
Post by: newman on July 10, 2007, 06:31:18 PM
We need an official JTF dictionary programmed into the forum.

Example:

islam becomes p-i-g-s-l-a-m
muslim   "         n-a-z-i
koran     "         k-o-r-o-i-l-e-t-p-a-p-e-r
Title: Re: The Religion of Peace!
Post by: IntrepidLengenD on July 10, 2007, 06:49:11 PM
Why are there MUSLIMS and/or Muslim Sympathizers allowed on this Forum, yet White Supremacists who are not anti-semitic like the recently banned white "nationalist" not allowed ?
This Reeks of PC Liberalism !
Title: Re: The Religion of Peace!
Post by: Shlomo on July 10, 2007, 06:57:57 PM
yes, newman... we seriously need that dictionary. lol

IntrepidLengenD, who was banned for being a "white nationalist"? Plenty of nazis and muslims have been banned.
Title: Re: The Religion of Peace!
Post by: IntrepidLengenD on July 10, 2007, 07:07:28 PM
Their's a post in General Discussion that is swamped with Commentary about it !

Seemed as though not all wanted this poster to go !
Title: Re: The Religion of Peace!
Post by: newman on July 10, 2007, 07:08:01 PM
yes, newman... we seriously need that dictionary. lol

IntrepidLengenD, who was banned for being a "white nationalist"? Plenty of nazis and muslims have been banned.

You ain't kidding. Think about it: If we had such a program, every time a muzzie gets on here and types his dribble it will come out as 'pigslam' etc. That will drive them BONKERS.
Title: Re: The Religion of Peace!
Post by: Shlomo on July 10, 2007, 07:08:40 PM
LOL!
Title: Re: The Religion of Peace!
Post by: Shlomo on July 10, 2007, 07:12:32 PM
Their's a post in General Discussion that is swamped with Commentary about it !

Seemed as though not all wanted this poster to go !

ScotcH, you were not banned because you were a white nationalist. You started opening new threads attacking the forum members and I deleted them and banned you.
Title: Re: The Religion of Peace!
Post by: IntrepidLengenD on July 10, 2007, 07:22:56 PM
Why does this post sound paranoid ?
Title: Re: The Religion of Peace!
Post by: Shlomo on July 11, 2007, 01:46:29 AM
ScotcH, you aren't going to hide by calling me paranoid. lol

I'm giving you a chance to speak but you are lying to me. I really don't like that. I know it's you from looking at your network location. Not to mention, you say the same stuff, have the same crazy punctuation, the same mistakes with your English, and are complaining that a "white national", ScotcH, was banned. Come on...

Do I look like an idiot?

You are re-banned.
Title: Re: The Religion of Peace!
Post by: newman on July 11, 2007, 01:48:50 AM
ScotcH, you aren't going to hide by calling me paranoid. lol

I'm giving you a chance to speak but you are lying to me. I really don't like that. I know it's you from looking at your network location. Not to mention, you say the same stuff, have the same crazy punctuation, the same mistakes with your English and spelling, and are complaining that a "white national", ScotcH, was banned. Come on...

Do I look like an idiot?

You are re-banned.

 :laugh: :laugh:He'll be back....like a terminater :laugh: :laugh: