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The Worldwide Crisis of Islam => The Truth About Islam => Topic started by: john.dane on September 14, 2009, 04:16:08 AM
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hello my name is john and i whould just like to say this why all the hatred towords muslims why assume that all muslims are like the dickheads who attack israel you have to relise that not all muslims are like this most just want peace in the middle east not war when i read things like nuke mecca i feel disgusted just like i feel disgusted when i read what idiots write about israel you claim to be gods chosen people so you must act like it i very much doubt god wishes you to nuke anybody all mankind is equal no one is better than the other ok so you get some realy stupid idiots but you get them on both sides not just one side i beleive that peace can be reached between palestine and israel i beleive a 2 state solution is possible if both sides get rid of the extremist then you will have peace then you make palestine your friends rather than your enemy and the whole world will suport you even the arab countries will suport you but the first step to this is to stop posting things like all muslims are evil nuke mecca i hope they die ect ect it is childish please do not try to get me blocked but think about what i have sead i am open to discussion so please feel free to reply but please no insults
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Dear john.dane
Islam is a religion of hate! They say openly "Death to Jews" and other terrible stuff. It's not only the hate with words. It's terror with bombs, nukes, suicide bombers,... They use violence against us. If the majority would say they are against Terrorism, Antisemitism and killings then it would be ok. But these Muslims terrorists represent Islam and Islam (Muslims) don't say anything against it.
If someone would say stupid things in your name, you would defend yourself. Islam is doing nothing against Terrorism and their hate. No, they support it!
Another example. WW2, who rid the Nazis and saved thousands of Jewish lives? It were the "follow" Christians. Americans, Russians, French, British and so on. All of them are Christians like the Nazis (not all of them were true Christians).
Look at Islam. Islam is murdering millions of non Muslims today. Is Islam the one who fights these evil people? Is Islam the one who help Jews, Christians? No. Because all Muslims have the same views.
Do you understand what I mean?
Islam is a death cult. That's why we hate Islam.
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i do understand what you mean but many many muslims are suporters of america many many muslims do speak out against the terrorists u just mainly see the extremist dickheads on the news the most but i do understand what you are saying and muslims also fought against the nazis you just dont hear about it i whould love to have a more detailed discussion with you can u IM on this site ?
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i do understand what you mean but many many muslims are suporters of america many many muslims do speak out against the terrorists u just mainly see the extremist dickheads on the news the most but i do understand what you are saying and muslims also fought against the nazis you just dont hear about it i whould love to have a more detailed discussion with you can u IM on this site ?
It could be that there are some who maybe support America. I don't think there are that many Muslims who are against terrorism! The news would talk about it.
You mean they fought WITH the Nazis. No.. I just don't hear about it because it never happened!
You can PM me but we can also discuss openly here.
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it is true indian muslims faught for the british it was the arab muslims who stayed out of the war
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Unfortunately, I don't recall any demonstrations on the streets of London or anwhere else by ordinary muslims agains islamic terrorism.
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check out youtube look for a vid called lutan muslims against extremism
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i do understand what you mean but many many muslims are suporters of america many many muslims do speak out against the terrorists u just mainly see the extremist dickheads on the news the most but i do understand what you are saying and muslims also fought against the nazis you just dont hear about it i whould love to have a more detailed discussion with you can u IM on this site ?
Those "many many" muslims are supporters of Obama...
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hello my name is john and i whould just like to say this why all the hatred towords muslims why assume that all muslims are like the dickheads who attack israel you have to relise that not all muslims are like this most just want peace in the middle east not war when i read things like nuke mecca i feel disgusted just like i feel disgusted when i read what idiots write about israel you claim to be gods chosen people so you must act like it i very much doubt G-d wishes you to nuke anybody all mankind is equal no one is better than the other ok so you get some realy stupid idiots but you get them on both sides not just one side i beleive that peace can be reached between palestine and israel i beleive a 2 state solution is possible if both sides get rid of the extremist then you will have peace then you make palestine your friends rather than your enemy and the whole world will suport you even the arab countries will suport you but the first step to this is to stop posting things like all muslims are evil nuke mecca i hope they die ect ect it is childish please do not try to get me blocked but think about what i have sead i am open to discussion so please feel free to reply but please no insults
The problem is that we don't know which ones are the extremists. Your average Mahmoud in Ramallah could be a terrorist. Think of it like this. If somebody told you that there is only a 50% chance you will die if you eat a certain food, would you even consider eating that food? Similarly, with everything we know about Islam and the dangers of it, who cares even if there are some "innocent" ones? We're really going to let these people live just based on the fact that are some good ones? We're going to endanger our lives on the CHANCE that some of them are good? It's better that we kill off as many of them as possible so long as it saves us. Why risk our OWN lives so terrorists can live and kill even MORE people? And the "innocent" Arabs that die, if truly innocent, will be going to a better place anyways.
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good point but the question is could you kill all of them all of them means the children and babies aswell could you realy be considerd human if you killed innocent children or innocent adults for that matter and if you did kill them whould you be going to a better place when you die as you murderd innocents that is what it all boils down to if you are religias then you cant cos murder of innocents is forbidden by god there is no excuses whatsoever for the murder of innocents
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good point but the question is could you kill all of them all of them means the children and babies aswell could you realy be considerd human if you killed innocent children or innocent adults for that matter and if you did kill them whould you be going to a better place when you die as you murderd innocents that is what it all boils down to if you are religias then you cant cos murder of innocents is forbidden by G-d there is no excuses whatsoever for the murder of innocents
They aren't innocent. An enemy is an enemy. A casualty of war is a casualty of war. They GO OUT OF THEIR WAY to target our children and babies, so tough luck for them if it happens to them. Why take a chance that these "innocent children" will grow up to not murder anyone? Do you really want to bet the lives of your family and loved ones on the POSSIBILITY that a bunch of Muslims will be harmless? It is only religious people that would care enough to protect their own people as opposed to non-religious people who would care MORE about "innocent" Muslims than innocent non-Muslims.
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Here's the thing, John.
During Operations Cast Lead (the most recent Gaza war), Israel was always very careful to avoid civilians. They've always been this way. And as a result Israeli soldiers, and other Jews died.
These Muslim terrorists can't beat Israel in a conventional war. So they routinely hide behind their women and children. Then when these women and children are accidentally killed, the Muslims and their supporters in the rest of the world cry foul. They accuse Israel of war crimes, and of randomly targeting civilians.
Now mind you, these are the same Muslims that send their children out to be suicide bombers. If their children die in processing of killing Jews, they're ecstatic. On the other hand, if an Israeli soldier accidentally kills one any of these women and children who act as human shields, the Muslims get all upset.
So let me ask you this.
Why is it OK for the Muslim terrorists to send their children out to kill Jews, but not OK for Jews to fight back?
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Here's the thing, John.
During Operations Cast Lead (the most recent Gaza war), Israel was always very careful to avoid civilians. They've always been this way. And as a result Israeli soldiers, and other Jews died.
These Muslim terrorists can't beat Israel in a conventional war. So they routinely hide behind their women and children. Then when these women and children are accidentally killed, the Muslims and their supporters in the rest of the world cry foul. They accuse Israel of war crimes, and of randomly targeting civilians.
Now mind you, these are the same Muslims that send their children out to be suicide bombers. If their children die in processing of killing Jews, they're ecstatic. On the other hand, if an Israeli soldier accidentally kills one any of these women and children who act as human shields, the Muslims get all upset.
So let me ask you this.
Why is it OK for the Muslim terrorists to send their children out to kill Jews, but not OK for Jews to fight back?
Thanks Lisa, I guess I was beating around the bush, but you hit the nail right on the head.
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well if that was the case then you have the right to defend yourself but i am talking about a different scenario one where lets say there are 100 muslims 50 of those muslims have murderd israeli citisens and are planning more attacks the other 50 has not they are going to lead good lives never kill anybody never even hurt anybody completely innocent but you dont know which 50 is the killers basicly what the guy above was saying was that all 100 should be killed now if you did kill all 100 you whould be a murderer the 50 that has and was going to murder you have not commited sin it was self defence the 50 that where innocent you are responsible for there death you are a murderer it was a sin do you understand what i am saying ?
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well if that was the case then you have the right to defend yourself but i am talking about a different scenario one where lets say there are 100 muslims 50 of those muslims have murderd israeli citisens and are planning more attacks the other 50 has not they are going to lead good lives never kill anybody never even hurt anybody completely innocent but you dont know which 50 is the killers basicly what the guy above was saying was that all 100 should be killed now if you did kill all 100 you whould be a murderer the 50 that has and was going to murder you have not commited sin it was self defence the 50 that where innocent you are responsible for there death you are a murderer it was a sin do you understand what i am saying ?
Yes, because basically you are saying that the lives of Jews are worthless.
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well if that was the case then you have the right to defend yourself but i am talking about a different scenario one where lets say there are 100 muslims 50 of those muslims have murderd israeli citisens and are planning more attacks the other 50 has not they are going to lead good lives never kill anybody never even hurt anybody completely innocent but you dont know which 50 is the killers basicly what the guy above was saying was that all 100 should be killed now if you did kill all 100 you whould be a murderer the 50 that has and was going to murder you have not commited sin it was self defence the 50 that where innocent you are responsible for there death you are a murderer it was a sin do you understand what i am saying ?
These 50 could fight against the other 50 terrorists. But they aren't! Their fault. They support these 50 terrorists with their non action.
You said we are responsible for their dead and we are murderer? How dare you can say we are murderer!? Jews are defending themselves and it's not murderer! This is totally stupid what you wrote here.
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In that situation you do what your heart tell you. My heart tells me kill the terrorists. If I don't know which ones are the terrorists so I'm going to let them all live???? Are yo serious???
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well if that was the case then you have the right to defend yourself but i am talking about a different scenario one where lets say there are 100 muslims 50 of those muslims have murderd israeli citisens and are planning more attacks the other 50 has not they are going to lead good lives never kill anybody never even hurt anybody completely innocent but you dont know which 50 is the killers basicly what the guy above was saying was that all 100 should be killed now if you did kill all 100 you whould be a murderer the 50 that has and was going to murder you have not commited sin it was self defence the 50 that where innocent you are responsible for there death you are a murderer it was a sin do you understand what i am saying ?
Yes, because basically you are saying that the lives of Jews are worthless.
He surely feels so. Besides, he is sure that only Jews are to blame for the deaths of civilians. John Dane, have you EVER thought that Americans, Russians, British and may other fighting nations kill many more civilians in their wars? I don't even mention the Arabs, they kill, no, murder millions and the world is silent! Why, Mr. Dane (the Hypocrite) ?
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"If someone want to kill you, stand up and kill him" - Torah
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ok back up right there that is not what i am saying at all no life is worthless not one little bit god created all mankind and nothing he creates is worthless dont try to make me out to be a nasty person cos i am not i am just having a simple discussion ok and if you wish to talk about british americans and the arabs then by all means lets but dont paint me as some evil basterd who thinks jewish lives are worthless if i though like that then i whould not have any respect whatsoever for my mother who is jewish
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and plus this is just a hyperthetical scenario i am not acusing anybody of anything
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ok back up right there that is not what i am saying at all no life is worthless not one little bit G-d created all mankind and nothing he creates is worthless dont try to make me out to be a nasty person cos i am not i am just having a simple discussion ok and if you wish to talk about british americans and the arabs then by all means lets but dont paint me as some evil basterd who thinks jewish lives are worthless if i though like that then i whould not have any respect whatsoever for my mother who is jewish
Wait a minute. Your mother is Jewish (which means you're Jewish), and she has answered any of these questions for you? What does your mother say when you tell her she is a Khazar?
If your mother is Jewish, why do you have to come on a forum to ask Jews questions, and act like you know not a thing about Judaism?
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i live in singapore so it is hard to phone her and i am not jewish i do not beleive in any one religion i do beleive in god though but growing up i was never interested in religion it went in one ear and out the other plus even if i was in contact with my mother she whould not talk to me about judaism as she know how i feel and says she wont wast her time
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and she is not khazar her family where from palistine the emigrated b4 israel was formed after the war
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i live in singapore so it is hard to phone her and i am not jewish i do not beleive in any one religion i do beleive in G-d though but growing up i was never interested in religion it went in one ear and out the other plus even if i was in contact with my mother she whould not talk to me about judaism as she know how i feel and says she wont wast her time
But your mother is Jewish, right?
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and she is not khazar her family where from palistine the emigrated b4 israel was formed after the war
How old was she when she emigrated?
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i live in singapore so it is hard to phone her and i am not jewish i do not beleive in any one religion i do beleive in G-d though but growing up i was never interested in religion it went in one ear and out the other plus even if i was in contact with my mother she whould not talk to me about judaism as she know how i feel and says she wont wast her time
Read this: http://www.aish.com/sp/so/48906422.html
Maybe you'll find this interesting.
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yes my mother is jewish and it wasnt my mother who emigrated it was my grandmother and she was only young not too sure i know it was befour she was a teenager but my mother was born in england
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yes my mother is jewish and it wasnt my mother who emigrated it was my grandmother and she was only young not too sure i know it was befour she was a teenager but my mother was born in england
Well I got some news for you. I HOPE YOU'RE SITTING DOWN. i you're maternal grandmother is Jewish, then according to Jewish Law, you are Jewish. WELCOME TO THE CLUB, MY BROTHER.
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and she is not khazar her family where from palistine the emigrated b4 israel was formed after the war
So if you know that your mother is not Khazar, why would you even ask the highly offensive question regarding Khazars earlier?
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yes my mother is jewish and it wasnt my mother who emigrated it was my grandmother and she was only young not too sure i know it was befour she was a teenager but my mother was born in england
If that is the case, then you are Jewish. I do not know if you are aware of how special that is, but you really should embrace it.
You should go to a Jewish centre in Singapore (Chabad may be the only one) and talk to them about these things. They will be happy to answer you.
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well if thats the case i got no problem with it but i still believe what i told you b4 i dont believe in any one religion i just believe in god i believe god isnt botherd weather you pray to him or not just that we be good people do good things and that will make him happy
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So if you know that your mother is not Khazar, why would you even ask the highly offensive question regarding Khazars earlier?
like i sead i know didly squat about judaism so i have to ask to learn
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well if thats the case i got no problem with it but i still believe what i told you b4 i dont believe in any one religion i just believe in G-d i believe G-d isnt botherd weather you pray to him or not just that we be good people do good things and that will make him happy
That is inane logic. Who ever told you these things? You just created your own concept of G-d? That is quite conceited.
It is obvious you have never really talked to a Rabbi. How can you deny the arguments for Judaism when you have never even listened to them? As I said, you should go to the Chabad House and find out the truth.
What is a good person? What is "doing good things"? You've decide dtyhat you are the ultimate judge in deciding these things?
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i have never denied anything nor have i accepted and i have never spoken to a rabbi since i was a child as the opertunity never came about i dont mean to be offensive in any way shape or form you shouldent even be offended by questions since i dident know it was offensive you should just explain not get offended i will continue this discussion tomorow good night people or good day depending on where you are lol
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well if that was the case then you have the right to defend yourself but i am talking about a different scenario one where lets say there are 100 muslims 50 of those muslims have murderd israeli citisens and are planning more attacks the other 50 has not they are going to lead good lives never kill anybody never even hurt anybody completely innocent but you dont know which 50 is the killers basicly what the guy above was saying was that all 100 should be killed now if you did kill all 100 you whould be a murderer the 50 that has and was going to murder you have not commited sin it was self defence the 50 that where innocent you are responsible for there death you are a murderer it was a sin do you understand what i am saying ?
1 Jews life are more important than 50 muslims who are, at least, indifferent to Islamic terrorism and are squatting on Jewish land.
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well if that was the case then you have the right to defend yourself but i am talking about a different scenario one where lets say there are 100 muslims 50 of those muslims have murderd israeli citisens and are planning more attacks the other 50 has not they are going to lead good lives
To quote an ancient Pope, let God sort them out.
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i have never denied anything nor have i accepted and i have never spoken to a rabbi since i was a child as the opertunity never came about i dont mean to be offensive in any way shape or form you shouldent even be offended by questions since i dident know it was offensive you should just explain not get offended i will continue this discussion tomorow good night people or good day depending on where you are lol
I am not offended by anything you say. Words cannot offend me. I am offended by the fact that you have tried to create your own religion, which is all too common among modern Jews.
Religion is not a philosophy that allows you to do what you want. G-d loves you, and one cannot love without caring about the actions of those they love. For example, if you have a mother who allows you to do whatever you want, and does not care what happens to you, there is clearly no love there. On the other hand, when a parent truly loves you, they are upset when you break their rules, as they believe that these rules make you a better person. Just the same, G-d would not love you and simultaneously not care about the decisions you make.
There is a Chabad house in Singapore. I suggest you reach out to them.
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John, islam is a cult. islam has nothing to do with G-d in any way shape or form.
muslims are programmed to present islam as a religion of peace, but to the contrary
it's actually a death cult.
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i have never denied anything nor have i accepted and i have never spoken to a rabbi since i was a child as the opertunity never came about i dont mean to be offensive in any way shape or form you shouldent even be offended by questions since i dident know it was offensive you should just explain not get offended i will continue this discussion tomorow good night people or good day depending on where you are lol
I am not offended by anything you say. Words cannot offend me. I am offended by the fact that you have tried to create your own religion, which is all too common among modern Jews.
Religion is not a philosophy that allows you to do what you want. G-d loves you, and one cannot love without caring about the actions of those they love. For example, if you have a mother who allows you to do whatever you want, and does not care what happens to you, there is clearly no love there. On the other hand, when a parent truly loves you, they are upset when you break their rules, as they believe that these rules make you a better person. Just the same, G-d would not love you and simultaneously not care about the decisions you make.
There is a Chabad house in Singapore. I suggest you reach out to them.
my mother did try her best to get me interested but nothing i never developed an interest even so my mother did still love me she whould defend me when people called me things she does love me
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i have never denied anything nor have i accepted and i have never spoken to a rabbi since i was a child as the opertunity never came about i dont mean to be offensive in any way shape or form you shouldent even be offended by questions since i dident know it was offensive you should just explain not get offended i will continue this discussion tomorow good night people or good day depending on where you are lol
I am not offended by anything you say. Words cannot offend me. I am offended by the fact that you have tried to create your own religion, which is all too common among modern Jews.
Religion is not a philosophy that allows you to do what you want. G-d loves you, and one cannot love without caring about the actions of those they love. For example, if you have a mother who allows you to do whatever you want, and does not care what happens to you, there is clearly no love there. On the other hand, when a parent truly loves you, they are upset when you break their rules, as they believe that these rules make you a better person. Just the same, G-d would not love you and simultaneously not care about the decisions you make.
There is a Chabad house in Singapore. I suggest you reach out to them.
my mother did try her best to get me interested but nothing i never developed an interest even so my mother did still love me she whould defend me when people called me things she does love me
Just out of curiosity, how old are you?
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i have never denied anything nor have i accepted and i have never spoken to a rabbi since i was a child as the opertunity never came about i dont mean to be offensive in any way shape or form you shouldent even be offended by questions since i dident know it was offensive you should just explain not get offended i will continue this discussion tomorow good night people or good day depending on where you are lol
I am not offended by anything you say. Words cannot offend me. I am offended by the fact that you have tried to create your own religion, which is all too common among modern Jews.
Religion is not a philosophy that allows you to do what you want. G-d loves you, and one cannot love without caring about the actions of those they love. For example, if you have a mother who allows you to do whatever you want, and does not care what happens to you, there is clearly no love there. On the other hand, when a parent truly loves you, they are upset when you break their rules, as they believe that these rules make you a better person. Just the same, G-d would not love you and simultaneously not care about the decisions you make.
There is a Chabad house in Singapore. I suggest you reach out to them.
my mother did try her best to get me interested but nothing i never developed an interest even so my mother did still love me she whould defend me when people called me things she does love me
Just out of curiosity, how old are you?
25 years old why do you wish to know my age ?
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i have never denied anything nor have i accepted and i have never spoken to a rabbi since i was a child as the opertunity never came about i dont mean to be offensive in any way shape or form you shouldent even be offended by questions since i dident know it was offensive you should just explain not get offended i will continue this discussion tomorow good night people or good day depending on where you are lol
I am not offended by anything you say. Words cannot offend me. I am offended by the fact that you have tried to create your own religion, which is all too common among modern Jews.
Religion is not a philosophy that allows you to do what you want. G-d loves you, and one cannot love without caring about the actions of those they love. For example, if you have a mother who allows you to do whatever you want, and does not care what happens to you, there is clearly no love there. On the other hand, when a parent truly loves you, they are upset when you break their rules, as they believe that these rules make you a better person. Just the same, G-d would not love you and simultaneously not care about the decisions you make.
There is a Chabad house in Singapore. I suggest you reach out to them.
my mother did try her best to get me interested but nothing i never developed an interest even so my mother did still love me she whould defend me when people called me things she does love me
Just out of curiosity, how old are you?
25 years old why do you wish to know my age ?
Because many younger people have similar thoughts regarding religion that you are espousing. Perhaps your willingness to ask questions and your apparent desire to learn means that you may be more open to your religion than you think, possibly in the future.
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Why should people respect and love muslims?
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Why should people respect and love muslims?
because muslims jews christians (the good ones that dont suport terrorism or extremism) are all humanjust cos u are at war with a few does not mean you hate them all you should love your fellow man many many muslims hate terrorism you guys have no idea how simeler you realy are you all worship one god you all follow the one book and you all follow the teachings of a prophet the miner differences are nothing compared to the simalaraties now i know some of you are going to get all up in yourselfs and start having a go at me but i also know some of you will agree even if you do not admit it we are all human we all bleed the same blood we all have the same organs muslim jew christian hindu budhist who cares we are all the same no one is better than the other and i wish that everyone will one day relise this
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Coming here and attempting to push your one world religion crap is not going to work with us.
There is only ONE true God, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
Why should people respect and love muslims?
because muslims jews christians (the good ones that dont suport terrorism or extremism) are all humanjust cos u are at war with a few does not mean you hate them all you should love your fellow man many many muslims hate terrorism you guys have no idea how simeler you realy are you all worship one G-d you all follow the one book and you all follow the teachings of a prophet the miner differences are nothing compared to the simalaraties now i know some of you are going to get all up in yourselfs and start having a go at me but i also know some of you will agree even if you do not admit it we are all human we all bleed the same blood we all have the same organs muslim jew christian hindu budhist who cares we are all the same no one is better than the other and i wish that everyone will one day relise this
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Coming here and attempting to push your one world religion crap is not going to work with us.
There is only ONE true G-d, the G-d of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
Why should people respect and love muslims?
because muslims jews christians (the good ones that dont suport terrorism or extremism) are all humanjust cos u are at war with a few does not mean you hate them all you should love your fellow man many many muslims hate terrorism you guys have no idea how simeler you realy are you all worship one G-d you all follow the one book and you all follow the teachings of a prophet the miner differences are nothing compared to the simalaraties now i know some of you are going to get all up in yourselfs and start having a go at me but i also know some of you will agree even if you do not admit it we are all human we all bleed the same blood we all have the same organs muslim jew christian hindu budhist who cares we are all the same no one is better than the other and i wish that everyone will one day relise this
well for starters i aint trying to push anything on anyone i came here for an adult discussion and to learn things and i simply stated my opinians and i too believe in only one god i just dont believe in religian you have your views i have mine so dont get angry just cos mine do not comform to yours
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Why should people respect and love muslims?
because muslims jews christians (the good ones that dont suport terrorism or extremism) are all humanjust cos u are at war with a few does not mean you hate them all you should love your fellow man many many muslims hate terrorism you guys have no idea how simeler you realy are you all worship one G-d you all follow the one book and you all follow the teachings of a prophet the miner differences are nothing compared to the simalaraties now i know some of you are going to get all up in yourselfs and start having a go at me but i also know some of you will agree even if you do not admit it we are all human we all bleed the same blood we all have the same organs muslim jew christian hindu budhist who cares we are all the same no one is better than the other and i wish that everyone will one day relise this
I am sorry, but you must be utterly clueless about reality. How can you say no one is better than the others. Have you ever read the Koran to be saying this? Maybe you should educate yourself before you continue to expse your utter lack of knowledge.
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John is delusional, or he may be a TROLL playing dumb.
In any case he loses.
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John is delusional, or he may be TROLL playing dumb.
In any case he loses.
pwned.
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John is delusional, or he may be TROLL playing dumb.
In any case he loses.
pwned.
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a11/wiegeabo/animated/movie/you_lose.gif)
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well if that was the case then you have the right to defend yourself but i am talking about a different scenario one where lets say there are 100 muslims 50 of those muslims have murderd israeli citisens and are planning more attacks the other 50 has not they are going to lead good lives never kill anybody never even hurt anybody completely innocent but you dont know which 50 is the killers basicly what the guy above was saying was that all 100 should be killed now if you did kill all 100 you whould be a murderer the 50 that has and was going to murder you have not commited sin it was self defence the 50 that where innocent you are responsible for there death you are a murderer it was a sin do you understand what i am saying ?
Would you be so kind to use fullstops and commas? This endless snake of words is unreadably for a human eye! Have you ever been to school and had basic education?
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well if that was the case then you have the right to defend yourself but i am talking about a different scenario one where lets say there are 100 muslims 50 of those muslims have murderd israeli citisens and are planning more attacks the other 50 has not they are going to lead good lives never kill anybody never even hurt anybody completely innocent but you dont know which 50 is the killers basicly what the guy above was saying was that all 100 should be killed now if you did kill all 100 you whould be a murderer the 50 that has and was going to murder you have not commited sin it was self defence the 50 that where innocent you are responsible for there death you are a murderer it was a sin do you understand what i am saying ?
Would you be so kind to use fullstops and commas? This endless snake of words is unreadably for a human eye! Have you ever been to school and had basic education?
Do you really want to read to the end?
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well if that was the case then you have the right to defend yourself but i am talking about a different scenario one where lets say there are 100 muslims 50 of those muslims have murderd israeli citisens and are planning more attacks the other 50 has not they are going to lead good lives never kill anybody never even hurt anybody completely innocent but you dont know which 50 is the killers basicly what the guy above was saying was that all 100 should be killed now if you did kill all 100 you whould be a murderer the 50 that has and was going to murder you have not commited sin it was self defence the 50 that where innocent you are responsible for there death you are a murderer it was a sin do you understand what i am saying ?
Would you be so kind to use fullstops and commas? This endless snake of words is unreadably for a human eye! Have you ever been to school and had basic education?
Do you really want to read to the end?
;D No, the 10% I have read so far are more than enough. But others might want to read it in act of total masochism! ;D
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well if that was the case then you have the right to defend yourself but i am talking about a different scenario one where lets say there are 100 muslims 50 of those muslims have murderd israeli citisens and are planning more attacks the other 50 has not they are going to lead good lives never kill anybody never even hurt anybody completely innocent but you dont know which 50 is the killers basicly what the guy above was saying was that all 100 should be killed now if you did kill all 100 you whould be a murderer the 50 that has and was going to murder you have not commited sin it was self defence the 50 that where innocent you are responsible for there death you are a murderer it was a sin do you understand what i am saying ?
Would you be so kind to use fullstops and commas? This endless snake of words is unreadably for a human eye! Have you ever been to school and had basic education?
I am far from perfect, but I see what he has done....he never used one period or comma. Kind of makes one dizzy to read it.
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No offense, John, don't take this personally, but, anyone who doesn't see the "wrong" in Islam, and doesn't hate "Islam", is ignorant. Ignorant as, he doesn't know Islam. How can you judge an "ideology" if you don't know it that well? what did you hear about it? that its about submission to god? praying? refusing the devil? so why should we hate it? that is all? what you don't know is A LOT of knowledge in history, politics, the religion itself, the hadiths, and basically anything. I can point you to few links hopefully this will make you see less blurry and get to know the real image of Islam.
The best website that exposes Islam for what it really is, and was:
www.faithfreedom.org
Try this site too: http://www.investigateislam.com/english/
Also, why don't you try looking in the news? each day there are several crimes committed in the name of Islam, whether its killing non-muslims, or killing apostasy, raping, force converting, or whatever you name it. Only few days ago some muslim radicals burned a christian family alive in afghanistan (i guess) just because they refused the koran and the sharea law. This happens everyday and is permitted by Islam. Islam is a death cult, its not even a religion. The prophet is fake. Such pig ignorant thug can not be sent by God. If anything, it was sent by the devil. Even in the hadith, there were proof that muhammad was possessed by demons for a short period of times and he wrote few verses under the effect.
Try searching in youtube (and google) for: Wafaa sultan, Zakria Boutros, Brigitte Gabriel,
In the end, if you have atleast half a brain, you will join our club in hating Islam, the death CULT. It's nothing racist, its just our lives and freedom. You can't be racist if you hate an ideology, you will be racist if you hate a certain race for no reason at all. So don't worry about your morals here, you're not doing anything "immoral" by hating Islam. Goodluck.
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No offense, John, don't take this personally, but, anyone who doesn't see the "wrong" in Islam, and doesn't hate "Islam", is ignorant. Ignorant as, he doesn't know Islam. How can you judge an "ideology" if you don't know it that well? what did you hear about it? that its about submission to G-d? praying? refusing the devil? so why should we hate it? that is all? what you don't know is A LOT of knowledge in history, politics, the religion itself, the hadiths, and basically anything. I can point you to few links hopefully this will make you see less blurry and get to know the real image of Islam.
The best website that exposes Islam for what it really is, and was:
www.faithfreedom.org
Try this site too: http://www.investigateislam.com/english/
Also, why don't you try looking in the news? each day there are several crimes committed in the name of Islam, whether its killing non-muslims, or killing apostasy, raping, force converting, or whatever you name it. Only few days ago some muslim radicals burned a christian family alive in afghanistan (i guess) just because they refused the koran and the sharea law. This happens everyday and is permitted by Islam. Islam is a death cult, its not even a religion. The prophet is fake. Such pig ignorant thug can not be sent by G-d. If anything, it was sent by the devil. Even in the hadith, there were proof that muhammad was possessed by demons for a short period of times and he wrote few verses under the effect.
Try searching in youtube (and google) for: Wafaa sultan, Zakria Boutros, Brigitte Gabriel,
In the end, if you have atleast half a brain, you will join our club in hating Islam, the death CULT. It's nothing racist, its just our lives and freedom. You can't be racist if you hate an ideology, you will be racist if you hate a certain race for no reason at all. So don't worry about your morals here, you're not doing anything "immoral" by hating Islam. Goodluck.
i already read the quran since the last time i was on hear and what i gatherd was that it is not evil or bad just like the torah or new testemants they are not evil or bad its the people who only follow what suits them best you have idiot jews who think that non jews are no better than cattle you have idiot muslims who beleive muslims are better than everyone else u have idiot christians who say you will burn in hell if you dont join us every religion including judaism has its fair share of idiots and terrorist u had the stern gand for the jews al quida for muslims and the IRA for the christians i came on here for answers and i got mocked and insulted for it by some complete and utter idiots and i also met some realy nice people who took the time to answer my questions which proves what i sead that there are good and idiotic people in every religion
ps i am sorry if my spelling grammer or punctuatin isnt perfect i have dyslexia so i cant help it so so enough with the insults please
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idiot it is people like you that is the reason for conflict in this world people that laff when asked cant we get along people that think they are better than others well i got news for you there are very very very few people on this planet that you are better than
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idiot it is people like you that is the reason for conflict in this world people that laff when asked cant we get along people that think they are better than others well i got news for you there are very very very few people on this planet that you are better than
Sure I am an Idiot
Don't you have to play in traffic somewhere?
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idiot it is people like you that is the reason for conflict in this world people that laff when asked cant we get along people that think they are better than others well i got news for you there are very very very few people on this planet that you are better than
Sure I am an Idiot
Don't you have to play in traffic somewhere?
well nice that u admit it and nope no traffic for me to play in today what bout you havent you got the game how many innocent kids can we kill today to play ?
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idiot it is people like you that is the reason for conflict in this world people that laff when asked cant we get along people that think they are better than others well i got news for you there are very very very few people on this planet that you are better than
Sure I am an Idiot
Don't you have to play in traffic somewhere?
well nice that u admit it and nope no traffic for me to play in today what bout you havent you got the game how many innocent kids can we kill today to play ?
Work on your grammar and sentence formation
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John.dane
Are you OK? And friendship with muslims? :o I have a feeling that you came here to provocate people.
THE SNOW STARTS FALLING IN PARADISE, AS HE GAZES AT THE STARS, HE WILL BE BORN AGAIN IN THE SKY, WHEN THE NIGHT TURNS INTO DAWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!4444444444444444444444
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i already read the quran since the last time i was on hear and what i gatherd was that it is not evil or bad just like the torah or new testemants they are not evil or bad its the people who only follow what suits them best you have idiot jews who think that non jews are no better than cattle you have idiot muslims who beleive muslims are better than everyone else u have idiot christians who say you will burn in hell if you dont join us every religion including judaism has its fair share of idiots and terrorist u had the stern gand for the jews al quida for muslims and the IRA for the christians i came on here for answers and i got mocked and insulted for it by some complete and utter idiots and i also met some realy nice people who took the time to answer my questions which proves what i sead that there are good and idiotic people in every religion
ps i am sorry if my spelling grammer or punctuatin isnt perfect i have dyslexia so i cant help it so so enough with the insults please
First, I highly doubt it that you have read the koran. Don't lie to us. When you decide to read the koran for real, after you finesh, read few hadiths. Hadiths are the deeds and sayings of muhammad according to narrations by his most dedicated scholars during that period of time.
Sure I know there are bad people regardless of religion, there are ignorant people every where, but what makes Islam different is that Islam is capable of making terrorists when learnt deeply and believed in it. Let me try to explain this in a better way, hopefully.
Compare muhammad to jesus christ - you don't have to believe in any of them, just take what is written about them in the koran and the bible.
Jesus christ have raised the dead. Muhammad made dead people.
Jesus christ gave vision to blind people. Muhammad took it.
Jesus christ forgave the prostitute and the thieves. Muhammad have killed and tortured them.
Christians tend to follow jesus christ's actions, thus true christians are very peaceful people, very forgiving and caring people. Many christians don't believe in hell and heaven after death, they believe that hell and heaven is here on earth, and no, there are no christians that I know that says "if you don't do that, you will go to hell" that's just stupid, stop making up lies. Muslims, like christians, tend to follow their prophet's actions and deeds, so they call for Jihad, and what is jihad? do you think God wants humans to fight for him? for ANY cause? I thought so. They follow sharea law. If you don't know what sharea law is, google or youtube it. Compare ANY religion with Islam, you will find that Islam is not even a religion, it's a cult, that was made up to brainwash people and make robots. I beg you again, go to these sites that I gave you and get educated. Why among all the religions on earth, we decided to target only Islam. Believe me, there is a very good reason.
I'm seirous, before you reply to my post, go educate yourself a little by visiting the sites I gave you, www.faithfreedom.org and http://www.investigateislam.com/english/
Goodluck.
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idiot it is people like you that is the reason for conflict in this world people that laff when asked cant we get along people that think they are better than others well i got news for you there are very very very few people on this planet that you are better than
Sure I am an Idiot
Don't you have to play in traffic somewhere?
well nice that u admit it and nope no traffic for me to play in today what bout you havent you got the game how many innocent kids can we kill today to play ?
Work on your grammar and sentence formation
He said he has dyslexia.
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i already read the quran since the last time i was on hear and what i gatherd was that it is not evil or bad just like the torah or new testemants they are not evil or bad its the people who only follow what suits them best you have idiot jews who think that non jews are no better than cattle you have idiot muslims who beleive muslims are better than everyone else u have idiot christians who say you will burn in hell if you dont join us every religion including judaism has its fair share of idiots and terrorist u had the stern gand for the jews al quida for muslims and the IRA for the christians i came on here for answers and i got mocked and insulted for it by some complete and utter idiots and i also met some realy nice people who took the time to answer my questions which proves what i sead that there are good and idiotic people in every religion
ps i am sorry if my spelling grammer or punctuatin isnt perfect i have dyslexia so i cant help it so so enough with the insults please
First, I highly doubt it that you have read the koran. Don't lie to us. When you decide to read the koran for real, after you finesh, read few hadiths. Hadiths are the deeds and sayings of muhammad according to narrations by his most dedicated scholars during that period of time.
Sure I know there are bad people regardless of religion, there are ignorant people every where, but what makes Islam different is that Islam is capable of making terrorists when learnt deeply and believed in it. Let me try to explain this in a better way, hopefully.
Compare muhammad to jesus christ - you don't have to believe in any of them, just take what is written about them in the koran and the bible.
Jesus christ have raised the dead. Muhammad made dead people.
Jesus christ gave vision to blind people. Muhammad took it.
Jesus christ forgave the prostitute and the thieves. Muhammad have killed and tortured them.
Christians tend to follow jesus christ's actions, thus true christians are very peaceful people, very forgiving and caring people. Many christians don't believe in hell and heaven after death, they believe that hell and heaven is here on earth, and no, there are no christians that I know that says "if you don't do that, you will go to hell" that's just stupid, stop making up lies. Muslims, like christians, tend to follow their prophet's actions and deeds, so they call for Jihad, and what is jihad? do you think G-d wants humans to fight for him? for ANY cause? I thought so. They follow sharea law. If you don't know what sharea law is, google or youtube it. Compare ANY religion with Islam, you will find that Islam is not even a religion, it's a cult, that was made up to brainwash people and make robots. I beg you again, go to these sites that I gave you and get educated. Why among all the religions on earth, we decided to target only Islam. Believe me, there is a very good reason.
I'm seirous, before you reply to my post, go educate yourself a little by visiting the sites I gave you, www.faithfreedom.org and http://www.investigateislam.com/english/
Goodluck.
i am not making up lies look up james bulger on google his aunt lives in my mums street i remember telling my mum about the priest telling his grief stricken father and mother they could not burry him in the cemetary near there home unless they where baptised as they where prodistant and there son was never christaned so dont tell me the xstians are good people most are yes but the but some people are extremists and as for islam i also read that mohamad garinteed paradise to a prostitute and that he had many jewish friends jews muslims and christians can be friends they all just have to get rid of the extremists and there are a lot on both sides
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johndane, why do you persist in being ignorant? Either you believe us, or you believe the enemy.
In either case if you choose to like muslims and believe in them, why stay here on the forum to argue with us? You making arguments on behalf of our enemy gives you a troll status in my eyes.
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i am not making up lies look up james bulger on google his aunt lives in my mums street i remember telling my mum about the priest telling his grief stricken father and mother they could not burry him in the cemetary near there home unless they where baptised as they where prodistant and there son was never christaned so dont tell me the xstians are good people most are yes but the but some people are extremists and as for islam i also read that mohamad garinteed paradise to a prostitute and that he had many jewish friends jews muslims and christians can be friends they all just have to get rid of the extremists and there are a lot on both sides
You keep dodging my arguments. Useless.
Show me in the bible where it says that you can't bury someone near their home unless they are baptized. The priest could be ignorant, extremist, anything, so!? anyone can go learn to be a priest, but what really matters is how good the priest is, you know, priest is not god they also make mistakes, and sometimes, a lot of mistakes, so you are telling me that christianity is also bad, like islam, because the example of the priest you gave me ...
I will copy the same argument I made to Islam, for example, when they kill, do jihad, beat their women, marry young girls, can I show you IN THE KORAN or the hadiths where it supports this? I can.
verse 4:34 of the Quran:
“Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband’s) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance): For Allah is Most High, great (above you all).” (Trans. by Abdullah Yusuf Ali).
Muhammad never explained his religion to anyone. He sent ultimatums to the rulers and if they did not accept him, he raided their towns and imposed his religion on their inhabitants by force, “arguing with someone about Islam always lead to confusion and mislead the person towards Irtadaad (apostasy)” and , “The True Path, The True Solution was Qitaal (fighting and killing) at that time. Is Qitaal today, and WIll be Qitaal forever, no matter how much the time will change.”
HADITH QUOTES:
Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 59, Number 509:
Narrated Salama bin Al-Akwa:
We went out to Khaibar in the company of the Prophet. While we were proceeding at night, a man from the group said to ‘Amir, “O ‘Amir! Won’t you let us hear your poetry?” ‘Amir was a poet, so he got down and started reciting for the people poetry that kept pace with the camels’ footsteps, saying:– “O Allah! Without You we Would not have been guided On the right path Neither would be have given In charity, nor would We have prayed. So please forgive us, what we have committed (i.e. our defects); let all of us Be sacrificed for Your Cause And send Sakina (i.e. calmness) Upon us to make our feet firm When we meet our enemy, and If they will call us towards An unjust thing, We will refuse. The unbelievers have made a hue and Cry to ask others’ help Against us.” The Prophet on that, asked, “Who is that (camel) driver (reciting poetry)?” The people said, “He is ‘Amir bin Al-Akwa’.”
Then the Prophet said, “May Allah bestow His Mercy on him.” A man amongst the people said, “O Allah’s Prophet! has (martyrdom) been granted to him. Would that you let us enjoy his company longer.” Then we reached and besieged Khaibar till we were afflicted with severe hunger. Then Allah helped the Muslims conquer it (i.e. Khaibar). … So when the army files were arranged in rows (for the clash), ‘Amir’s sword was short and he aimed at the leg of a Jew to strike it, but the sharp blade of the sword returned to him and injured his own knee, and that caused him to die. When they returned from the battle, Allah’s Apostle saw me (in a sad mood). He took my hand and said, “What is bothering you?” I replied, “Let my father and mother be sacrificed for you! The people say that the deeds of ‘Amir are lost.” The Prophet said, “Whoever says so, is mistaken, for ‘Amir has got a double reward.” The Prophet raised two fingers and added, “He (i.e. Amir) was a persevering struggler in the Cause of Allah and there are few ‘Arabs who achieved the like of (good deeds) ‘Amir had done.”
QURAN QUOTES:
Sura 5:51 O believers take not Jews and Christians as friends...
Sura 8:37 Allah may separate the pure from impure……
Sura 5:33 (Those who fight Allah)….shall be slain or crucified…
Sura 8:12-13 Cast terror into the hearts of infidels. Strike off their heads….
Sura 8:67 …make wide slaughter in the land...
Sura 9:73 Make war on unbelievers (of Islam)… (that includes someone like yourself, and me)
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[An Observation: The Koran is the indisputable Word of Allah and as such has to be accepted as a whole, without any questioning. But Mohammed was the prophet who could abrogate passages as it suited the occasion and without reference to anyone, as he was Allah's prophet. He has stated on several occasions that he fell into a swoon and the revelation came upon him, as in the case of his marriage to the wife of his step-son. He exonerated his behaviour to his wife with the excuse that he received a vision from Allah to take his step-son's wife as his own wife. His seventh wife was his ex-daughter-in-law.
Interestingly, Sura 4:3 limits the number of wives to four, and in Sura 4:31 marriage to one's daughter-in-law was prohibited. But in Sura 33:36-40, Muhammad was conveniently given a new revelation from God that ordered Zaid, Muhammad's adopted son, to divorce his wife so Muhammad could marry her by God's command. This swoon and revelation appears more a human convenience for his lust rather than a revelation of Allah. The revelation was too selfish a design to have been an ethereal revelation.
Muslim scholars and statesman Ali Dashti gives a list of 22 women in Muhammad's life. 16 were wives, 2 were slaves or concubines, 4 were not wives nor slaves but devout Muslim women who "gave" themselves to Muhammad willingly.]
Look dude ... I can go on like this forever ...
Islam has Many contradictions in its treachings. The Koran is replete with linguistic errors, contradictions, evil teachings, supremacist teachings, barbaric instructions, and misogyny. The same applies to Hadiz too.
Muhammad himself was no more than a warlord; a criminal who, according to civil laws, will rott in prison and will not see the day of light until his death. Then after his death, his corpse will be cremated, put on a rocket then sent to the sun. This is the true hell fire that Muhammad is worthy off. The blood of his victims in Medina, Khayber, and Mecca, and many other places, is crying to all of us to clear their names, and tell everyone who the true trashy criminal is. Muhammad is no prophet. He was a maniac who considered attacking other peaceful tribes on a monthly and bi-monthly basis, as no more than a ”picnic”. While he was traveling on those “picnics”, he would rape young women, mostly in their teens, after killing their husbands and all their male relatives. How much of a prophet a beast like Muhammad is?
So don't come here telling us why do we hate Islam, instead, get educated, and join the club, it's the best thing you could do to the world, stopping the death cult called Islam.
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i am not making up lies look up james bulger on google his aunt lives in my mums street i remember telling my mum about the priest telling his grief stricken father and mother they could not burry him in the cemetary near there home unless they where baptised as they where prodistant and there son was never christaned so dont tell me the xstians are good people most are yes but the but some people are extremists and as for islam i also read that mohamad garinteed paradise to a prostitute and that he had many jewish friends jews muslims and christians can be friends they all just have to get rid of the extremists and there are a lot on both sides
You keep dodging my arguments. Useless.
Show me in the bible where it says that you can't bury someone near their home unless they are baptized. The priest could be ignorant, extremist, anything, so!? anyone can go learn to be a priest, but what really matters is how good the priest is, you know, priest is not G-d they also make mistakes, and sometimes, a lot of mistakes, so you are telling me that christianity is also bad, like islam, because the example of the priest you gave me ...
I will copy the same argument I made to Islam, for example, when they kill, do jihad, beat their women, marry young girls, can I show you IN THE KORAN or the hadiths where it supports this? I can.
verse 4:34 of the Quran:
“Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband’s) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance): For Allah is Most High, great (above you all).” (Trans. by Abdullah Yusuf Ali).
Muhammad never explained his religion to anyone. He sent ultimatums to the rulers and if they did not accept him, he raided their towns and imposed his religion on their inhabitants by force, “arguing with someone about Islam always lead to confusion and mislead the person towards Irtadaad (apostasy)” and , “The True Path, The True Solution was Qitaal (fighting and killing) at that time. Is Qitaal today, and WIll be Qitaal forever, no matter how much the time will change.”
HADITH QUOTES:
Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 59, Number 509:
Narrated Salama bin Al-Akwa:
We went out to Khaibar in the company of the Prophet. While we were proceeding at night, a man from the group said to ‘Amir, “O ‘Amir! Won’t you let us hear your poetry?” ‘Amir was a poet, so he got down and started reciting for the people poetry that kept pace with the camels’ footsteps, saying:– “O Allah! Without You we Would not have been guided On the right path Neither would be have given In charity, nor would We have prayed. So please forgive us, what we have committed (i.e. our defects); let all of us Be sacrificed for Your Cause And send Sakina (i.e. calmness) Upon us to make our feet firm When we meet our enemy, and If they will call us towards An unjust thing, We will refuse. The unbelievers have made a hue and Cry to ask others’ help Against us.” The Prophet on that, asked, “Who is that (camel) driver (reciting poetry)?” The people said, “He is ‘Amir bin Al-Akwa’.”
Then the Prophet said, “May Allah bestow His Mercy on him.” A man amongst the people said, “O Allah’s Prophet! has (martyrdom) been granted to him. Would that you let us enjoy his company longer.” Then we reached and besieged Khaibar till we were afflicted with severe hunger. Then Allah helped the Muslims conquer it (i.e. Khaibar). … So when the army files were arranged in rows (for the clash), ‘Amir’s sword was short and he aimed at the leg of a Jew to strike it, but the sharp blade of the sword returned to him and injured his own knee, and that caused him to die. When they returned from the battle, Allah’s Apostle saw me (in a sad mood). He took my hand and said, “What is bothering you?” I replied, “Let my father and mother be sacrificed for you! The people say that the deeds of ‘Amir are lost.” The Prophet said, “Whoever says so, is mistaken, for ‘Amir has got a double reward.” The Prophet raised two fingers and added, “He (i.e. Amir) was a persevering struggler in the Cause of Allah and there are few ‘Arabs who achieved the like of (good deeds) ‘Amir had done.”
QURAN QUOTES:
Sura 5:51 O believers take not Jews and Christians as friends...
Sura 8:37 Allah may separate the pure from impure……
Sura 5:33 (Those who fight Allah)….shall be slain or crucified…
Sura 8:12-13 Cast terror into the hearts of infidels. Strike off their heads….
Sura 8:67 …make wide slaughter in the land...
Sura 9:73 Make war on unbelievers (of Islam)… (that includes someone like yourself, and me)
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[An Observation: The Koran is the indisputable Word of Allah and as such has to be accepted as a whole, without any questioning. But Mohammed was the prophet who could abrogate passages as it suited the occasion and without reference to anyone, as he was Allah's prophet. He has stated on several occasions that he fell into a swoon and the revelation came upon him, as in the case of his marriage to the wife of his step-son. He exonerated his behaviour to his wife with the excuse that he received a vision from Allah to take his step-son's wife as his own wife. His seventh wife was his ex-daughter-in-law.
Interestingly, Sura 4:3 limits the number of wives to four, and in Sura 4:31 marriage to one's daughter-in-law was prohibited. But in Sura 33:36-40, Muhammad was conveniently given a new revelation from G-d that ordered Zaid, Muhammad's adopted son, to divorce his wife so Muhammad could marry her by G-d's command. This swoon and revelation appears more a human convenience for his lust rather than a revelation of Allah. The revelation was too selfish a design to have been an ethereal revelation.
Muslim scholars and statesman Ali Dashti gives a list of 22 women in Muhammad's life. 16 were wives, 2 were slaves or concubines, 4 were not wives nor slaves but devout Muslim women who "gave" themselves to Muhammad willingly.]
Look dude ... I can go on like this forever ...
Islam has Many contradictions in its treachings. The Koran is replete with linguistic errors, contradictions, evil teachings, supremacist teachings, barbaric instructions, and misogyny. The same applies to Hadiz too.
Muhammad himself was no more than a warlord; a criminal who, according to civil laws, will rott in prison and will not see the day of light until his death. Then after his death, his corpse will be cremated, put on a rocket then sent to the sun. This is the true hell fire that Muhammad is worthy off. The blood of his victims in Medina, Khayber, and Mecca, and many other places, is crying to all of us to clear their names, and tell everyone who the true trashy criminal is. Muhammad is no prophet. He was a maniac who considered attacking other peaceful tribes on a monthly and bi-monthly basis, as no more than a ”picnic”. While he was traveling on those “picnics”, he would rape young women, mostly in their teens, after killing their husbands and all their male relatives. How much of a prophet a beast like Muhammad is?
So don't come here telling us why do we hate Islam, instead, get educated, and join the club, it's the best thing you could do to the world, stopping the death cult called Islam.
ok i will have re read nut i do want to thank you you are one of the good ones on this site u dont insult me or mock me u are able to have a good adult conversation without getting all offended and just to let you know despite what some people on here may think i do not side with anyone i simply wish to discuss matters regarding judaism and israel so that i may learn more people have called me anti semetic simply for not agreeing with certain things which i found funny as i am semetic my mother and her family are jewish her parents moved from palestine b4 israel was re formed i will look up wat u say and get back to you i wish to continue this discussion further
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ok i will have re read nut i do want to thank you you are one of the good ones on this site u dont insult me or mock me u are able to have a good adult conversation without getting all offended and just to let you know despite what some people on here may think i do not side with anyone i simply wish to discuss matters regarding judaism and israel so that i may learn more people have called me anti semetic simply for not agreeing with certain things which i found funny as i am semetic my mother and her family are jewish her parents moved from palestine b4 israel was re formed i will look up wat u say and get back to you i wish to continue this discussion further
They reacted like that to you because they don't like to see anybody sympathizing with Islam, because Islam surely doesn't sympathize with anyone. But it's ok, you don't know, people learn and gets educated, an opportunity has been given to you to learn and know your true enemy, one of your enemies, and lots of sources to educated yourself with, so I highly suggest that you take that chance to learn and prepare yourself rather than dropping baseless questions in the air like that. :)
I know you are not nazi or anti-semitic or any of that, but your lack of knowledge might show just that to some people ... so don't get offended by it...
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it is true indian muslims faught for the british it was the arab muslims who stayed out of the war
There were very very few Indian Muslims who fought for the British.And those fought for the British did so, not because they wanted to do so,but because they were forced to do so.Most of them were very poor that's why they were forced to join the army.
By the way, you are right all Muslims are not terrorists just like every guy who watches kiddie-porn is not a child rapist.
But do you think that really makes any difference?