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Kahanist Singles => Jewish Singles => Topic started by: Ari on October 21, 2007, 07:23:50 PM
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This girl appears to be interested in me. She's Jewish and quite attractive, but I fear she has had a rather promiscuous past. Do you think this is something I can overlook? I'm probably going to turn her down because of this as I can't get it out of my mind. Any help would be appreciated. Hope all is well with everyone in the forum.
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Almost anyone can repent. See if she indeed changed.
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I wouldn't date her either but if you have a hard time finding someone then if she repented and you like her then don't let her get away.
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Even if shes repented, I guess the question you need to ask yourself is could you ever trust her or will her past always be on your mind ;) Without trust there cant be a relationship.
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How do you know she has had a promiscuous past? Are you assuming this or basing it off what she has told you or what you have heard. If she was with you, she wouldn't be promiscuous, but that wouldn't really mean that she's "reformed". Would it matter though as long as she wasn't sleeping around with other people while you are together?
If she's attractive and a nice person and you guys get along, why let that she's had a promiscuous past get in the way of what could be a good relationship? There's much more to a woman than the condition that her XXXXX is in.
I suppose if you absolutely can't get it out of your mind that she's slept around then you should not get involved with her.
If you're really concerned about it, why not talk to her about it to ease your worrying?
Also, just because a girl is a slut doesn't mean that she will necessarily cheat on you. There are some sluts that are faithful when they have boyfriends but sleep around a lot when they don't. Sluts would be more likely to cheat on you though, but anyone has the potential to cheat on you, you should examine her character for the best indication of that I think.
Sounds like you need to have a good talk with her. The issues you have are going to remain unresolved after getting people's opinions on the forum.
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Not advisible on both personal and societal levels.
If you, me, others forgive them, tomorrow other girls will think it is ok to f**k around.
It is not easy to be Jewish, you know...
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I think the poll question should be reformed :o
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when I was young and stupid I dated a girl who did everything in the book by the time she was 15 (I won't go into details),
I met her at the army, she had sort of a "reputation" there, well.. again no details, sorry.
anyway 3 years later by the time I was fresh out of the army, I saw her one day on tel-aviv fishing for clients on one of the main streets,
she saw me and tried to hit on me, even though I was really young and stupid at those days, for some reason
I didn't take advantage of her, she looked so helpless and fragile, I sat with her at an all night coffee shop,
and by the time the sun came up we were on our way to the addicts center,
I would visit her sometimes, and bring her some torah lectures by rabbi Amnon Yitzchak,
Today B"H she's married to a young Avrech, she has 4 kids and one on the way,
she wants to become Rabbanit, and gives lectures everyweek to troubled young girls.
so... it just shows you, that anything is possible, and in the end it's all up to you
to decide what to make of your life...
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What is an avrech?
Yeshiva student
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I modified the choice of language used for this subject.
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Ari just by the way you titled your question I can tell that this is something that will always bother you about this girl. Are you working with good information about her past? It would be sad if she really was not what she appears to be. There are levels of "sluttyness" and this goes for men as well as woman. Some folks can't pass up anything that has a pulse and that will always be a problem. Other folks will settle down once they find the right person. Then too there are people who appear slutty ( a tease ) but never go past a certain point. If there is a past the question you need to ask yourself is are you willing to overlook it if you do get serious. If your not its best not to get involved with her for the long term because it will always be a nagging issue.
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Yes. I believe that it can!
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I think a promiscuous woman can definitely be reformed. A promiscuous man on the other hand, well that's another story all together ;)
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I added the poll and picked I'm not sure because I wouldn't date a former slut even if she is now religious. The reason is that I only want to marry a virgin. I don't want a used woman.
sorry to interrupt, but an old say that comes in my mind is: " It's not stupid to be her first, but it's even smarter to be her LAST!" 8;) sorry again! 8;)
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sorry to interrupt, but an old say that comes in my mind is: " It's not bad to be her first, but it's even smarter to be her LAST!" 8;) sorry again! 8;)
Lol. :D Bet that sounds even better in Serbian.
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This girl appears to be interested in me. She's Jewish and quite attractive, but I fear she has had a rather promiscuous past. Do you think this is something I can overlook? I'm probably going to turn her down because of this as I can't get it out of my mind. Any help would be appreciated. Hope all is well with everyone in the forum.
If you'd point this person out, I could talk to her. ;D Seriously, I vote yes on being reformed. She hasn't committed a crime. Shtuping is not a crime, last I heard.
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Well, in Judaism it is.
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sorry to interrupt, but an old say that comes in my mind is: " It's not bad to be her first, but it's even smarter to be her LAST!" 8;) sorry again! 8;)
Lol. :D Bet that sounds even better in Serbian.
;D my boyfriend is not home, but he will translate it better! ;D
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Well, in Judaism it is.
Oops, sorry. Freudian slip. :-[
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how can I change my name if I want to change it from Yasmine to Jasmina (my real name) can I do it? and how?
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Yes a promiscuous woman can change she looking for the right man, when she finds him she will settle.
People who have no relationships at all are the ones that worry me.
When they get to an age they become self centered unloving, unreasonable gits.
With no ability to share anything, and in their rut of a world they become bitter and twisted, cold and unforgiving, and totally heartless.
No wonder they are alone because they are not open to human side of things.
IMHO ;)
I don't believe in jumping everything that moves thats lust and not love. People need to enjoy the other things relationships bring them.
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I voted yes because there's always a chance for repentance, but I would not stake a relationship on it. I say this because I did get involved with a girl who had a somewhat promiscuous past but wanted to reform. She finally ended up cheating on me while I was away at sea for 2 months.
It is possible for a person like this to repent, but the best indicator of future behavior is always past behavior.
sorry to hear that! I think that a girl with promiscuous past, has big chance to repeat the mistakes that she did before, because such girls usually does NOT have an equilibrium, they love extremes and sometimes could be good, BUT they often get bored of being GOOD and fail into promiscuity again.
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Yes a promiscuous woman can change she looking for the right man, when she finds him she will settle.
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She will settle? Who said he will?
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Yes a promiscuous woman can change she looking for the right man, when she finds him she will settle.
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She will settle? Who said he will?
The search for the right man will continue forever for a simple reason - there are much fewer exceptional men than there are exceptional women in the world. Most women, when find the right man, will find that he is either taken or a player.
Another possibility is that she will find him, but too late - that is when she turns 35 and then she represents a rather arguable value as woman to that special guy.
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I don't care if she has repented.. I would much rather wait for a good girl with a good past. Unless of course I hit 50 and still haven't found a woman.. then I won't be so picky. At the rate I'm going now, I think I'll have to stop being picky.
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I don't care if she has repented.. I would much rather wait for a good girl with a good past. Unless of course I hit 50 and still haven't found a woman.. then I won't be so picky. At the rate I'm going now, I think I'll have to stop being picky.
Define "Promiscuous", what you might consider promiscuous, I might consider a very nice girl that simply wasn't dead before we met. ;D
What? She had a boyfriend or two? (If so, that's nothing) Or was she with every man between here and the horizon? In that case run for the hills.
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A promiscuous woman can be Reformed, but she can also be Conservative.
It's easy to get a Jewish woman to stop having sex...marry her. :-*
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I don't care if she has repented.. I would much rather wait for a good girl with a good past. Unless of course I hit 50 and still haven't found a woman.. then I won't be so picky. At the rate I'm going now, I think I'll have to stop being picky.
Define "Promiscuous", what you might consider promiscuous, I might consider a very nice girl that simply wasn't dead before we met. ;D
What? She had a boyfriend or two? (If so, that's nothing) Or was she with every man between here and the horizon? In that case run for the hills.
You are talking like Bill CLinton now in his "I did smoke, but I didn't inhale".
The number of boyfriends is very relative and "nothing" can soon become not "one or two", but 5 or 10, which is often the case.
And thus it is not about how far you crossed the line, it is about whether you deared to cross it or chose not to because it is simply forbidden.
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A promiscuous woman can be Reformed, but she can also be Conservative.
It's easy to get a Jewish woman to stop having sex...marry her. :-*
Sex is not forbidden, my friend, it is the premarital and extramarital sex that is forbidden.
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One of our major Jewish Prophets was commanded by G-d to marry a prostitute.
True!
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I don't care if she has repented.. I would much rather wait for a good girl with a good past. Unless of course I hit 50 and still haven't found a woman.. then I won't be so picky. At the rate I'm going now, I think I'll have to stop being picky.
Define "Promiscuous", what you might consider promiscuous, I might consider a very nice girl that simply wasn't dead before we met. ;D
What? She had a boyfriend or two? (If so, that's nothing) Or was she with every man between here and the horizon? In that case run for the hills.
You are talking like Bill CLinton now in his "I did smoke, but I didn't inhale".
The number of boyfriends is very relative and "nothing" can soon become not "one or two", but 5 or 10, which is often the case.
And thus it is not about how far you crossed the line, it is about whether you deared to cross it or chose not to because it is simply forbidden.
At this point in my life, 5 or 10 is still a very nice girl. ::)
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Well, when you and I become prophets and G-d instructs us to do so, then we will talk.
But, jokes aside, Hosea and his story is not the best guide to action for us.
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I don't care if she has repented.. I would much rather wait for a good girl with a good past. Unless of course I hit 50 and still haven't found a woman.. then I won't be so picky. At the rate I'm going now, I think I'll have to stop being picky.
Define "Promiscuous", what you might consider promiscuous, I might consider a very nice girl that simply wasn't dead before we met. ;D
What? She had a boyfriend or two? (If so, that's nothing) Or was she with every man between here and the horizon? In that case run for the hills.
You are talking like Bill CLinton now in his "I did smoke, but I didn't inhale".
The number of boyfriends is very relative and "nothing" can soon become not "one or two", but 5 or 10, which is often the case.
And thus it is not about how far you crossed the line, it is about whether you deared to cross it or chose not to because it is simply forbidden.
At this point in my life, 5 or 10 is still a very nice girl. ::)
You being the 8th one?
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I don't care if she has repented.. I would much rather wait for a good girl with a good past. Unless of course I hit 50 and still haven't found a woman.. then I won't be so picky. At the rate I'm going now, I think I'll have to stop being picky.
Define "Promiscuous", what you might consider promiscuous, I might consider a very nice girl that simply wasn't dead before we met. ;D
What? She had a boyfriend or two? (If so, that's nothing) Or was she with every man between here and the horizon? In that case run for the hills.
You are talking like Bill CLinton now in his "I did smoke, but I didn't inhale".
The number of boyfriends is very relative and "nothing" can soon become not "one or two", but 5 or 10, which is often the case.
And thus it is not about how far you crossed the line, it is about whether you deared to cross it or chose not to because it is simply forbidden.
At this point in my life, 5 or 10 is still a very nice girl. ::)
You being the 8th one?
Probably 11th :::D
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Yes a promiscuous woman can change she looking for the right man, when she finds him she will settle.
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She will settle? Who said he will?
I never known a man to choose, its always the woman. We choose who we want, then we go to and get them 8;)
Men do not know what they want until they are told :::D
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I don't care if she has repented.. I would much rather wait for a good girl with a good past. Unless of course I hit 50 and still haven't found a woman.. then I won't be so picky. At the rate I'm going now, I think I'll have to stop being picky.
Define "Promiscuous", what you might consider promiscuous, I might consider a very nice girl that simply wasn't dead before we met. ;D
What? She had a boyfriend or two? (If so, that's nothing) Or was she with every man between here and the horizon? In that case run for the hills.
You are talking like Bill CLinton now in his "I did smoke, but I didn't inhale".
The number of boyfriends is very relative and "nothing" can soon become not "one or two", but 5 or 10, which is often the case.
And thus it is not about how far you crossed the line, it is about whether you deared to cross it or chose not to because it is simply forbidden.
At this point in my life, 5 or 10 is still a very nice girl. ::)
You being the 8th one?
Probably 11th :::D
What an honorable position? Not everywhere can you be the first, right?
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I don't care if she has repented.. I would much rather wait for a good girl with a good past. Unless of course I hit 50 and still haven't found a woman.. then I won't be so picky. At the rate I'm going now, I think I'll have to stop being picky.
Define "Promiscuous", what you might consider promiscuous, I might consider a very nice girl that simply wasn't dead before we met. ;D
What? She had a boyfriend or two? (If so, that's nothing) Or was she with every man between here and the horizon? In that case run for the hills.
You are talking like Bill CLinton now in his "I did smoke, but I didn't inhale".
The number of boyfriends is very relative and "nothing" can soon become not "one or two", but 5 or 10, which is often the case.
And thus it is not about how far you crossed the line, it is about whether you deared to cross it or chose not to because it is simply forbidden.
At this point in my life, 5 or 10 is still a very nice girl. ::)
You being the 8th one?
Probably 11th :::D
What an honorable position? Not everywhere can you be the first, right?
Exactly, sometimes you just have to accept the realities of life, and as you get older, there's more and more of those realities to accept. ::)
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Yes a promiscuous woman can change she looking for the right man, when she finds him she will settle.
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She will settle? Who said he will?
I never known a man to choose, its always the woman. We choose who we want, then we go to and get them 8;)
Men do not know what they want until they are told :::D
Well, thanks a lot for this self-motivational legend!
Let me correct you a little:
1) Women have greater authority in chosing with whom to sleep;
2) Men have greater authority with whom to stay.
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Yes a promiscuous woman can change she looking for the right man, when she finds him she will settle.
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She will settle? Who said he will?
I never known a man to choose, its always the woman. We choose who we want, then we go to and get them 8;)
Men do not know what they want until they are told :::D
Well, thanks a lot for this self-motivational legend!
Let me correct you a little:
1) Women have greater authority in chosing with whom to sleep;
2) Men have greater authority with whom to stay.
Well I have never had a guy leave me or want to leave. Its always been me thats done it. And every married woman I know, had to tell the guy what to do, of course in a way they think its their choice. ^-^
Thats all apart of being a woman.
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I've dedicated my whole adult life to helping naughty, young women reform. I've found that light spanking works a treat. ;)
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Men have greater authority with whom to stay.
I disagree. Men do the picking but women do the chosing ;)
In regards to the poll question:
Take the punge. What do you have to lose? It only takes a few dates to see whether she is interested or not. The minute you see a red flag (broken date, cheating, etc) then you can stop seeing her. Why are you making such a big deal about it ?
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I've dedicated my whole adult life to helping naughty, young women reform. I've found that light spanking works a treat. ;)
:laugh:
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Thanks for the input everyone. After some consideration, I have chosen not to pursue a romantic relationship with this girl. Without going into too much detail, it came to my attention that she may have appeared in some dirty videos and this would be too much for me to overlook.
P.S. to kellymaureen - I'm listening to Ask JTF and just heard your question to Chaim. I think you're doing a great job raising your son. He's definitely on the right track. Best of luck.
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Thanks for the input everyone. After some consideration, I have chosen not to pursue a romantic relationship with this girl. Without going into too much detail, it came to my attention that she may have appeared in some dirty videos and this would be too much for me to overlook.
P.S. to kellymaureen - I'm listening to Ask JTF and just heard your question to Chaim. I think you're doing a great job raising your son. He's definitely on the right track. Best of luck.
Dirty videos? Woah, that is beyond even my level of tolerance for skeletons in the closet. Ex-boyfriends? What woman doesn't have any? Ex-husband? Kids? Again, she wasn't dead before we met. Dirty films!? RED FLAG! That's complete whore territory, I've been around the block, I'm jaded and have a thick skin, and even I won't get mixed up with that sort of girl, nothing but trouble, massive trouble, she has nothing to offer but a lot of fun followed by a load of misery that outweighs the fun tenfold, and that is saying a lot, because I'm sure she's a load of fun, but I digress; Put as much distance between her and your innocent naive self as you can. What you don't have any nice Synagoge attending single girls to get introduced to?
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Thanks for the input everyone. After some consideration, I have chosen not to pursue a romantic relationship with this girl. Without going into too much detail, it came to my attention that she may have appeared in some dirty videos and this would be too much for me to overlook.
P.S. to kellymaureen - I'm listening to Ask JTF and just heard your question to Chaim. I think you're doing a great job raising your son. He's definitely on the right track. Best of luck.
Very good choice! I think you did the right thing! You don't want her to be the mother of your kids., who knows what else you gonna hear or see about her, or even worse YOUR KIDS can hear about their MOM.... :'( you deserve better and your level of expectancy is higher then that!
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Whoa porn star?
she may have appeared in some dirty video
You don't really know or you do?
Anyway I know alot of Strippers and Women of the Night and they are good people, but is a job no way I could do.
The First Nurses were, and some men still think they are :-\
Anyway you must be comfortable in your choice of course. Good luck with the nice girl.
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The First Nurses were, and some men still think they are
Are you trying to say that the first nurses were women of the night? :o
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In the military women ,do try to service troops.Im not saying that is right but truthful.Not all but most.No disrespect Infidel.
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In the military women ,do try to service troops.Im not saying that is right but truthful.Not all but most.No disrespect Infidel.
What women?
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Military women.Sorry ,but thats the fact Jack.[Remember stripes]
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Military women.Sorry ,but thats the fact Jack.[Remember stripes]
hmmm...are we speaking of nurses in the military? ???
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Yacov you are right.It takes a strong person to abstain.My wife and I waited till we got married 18 years ago.But we had to get married fast.After 3 months. ;)
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when I was young and stupid I dated a girl who did everything in the book by the time she was 15 (I won't go into details),
I met her at the army, she had sort of a "reputation" there, well.. again no details, sorry.
anyway 3 years later by the time I was fresh out of the army, I saw her one day on tel-aviv fishing for clients on one of the main streets,
she saw me and tried to hit on me, even though I was really young and stupid at those days, for some reason
I didn't take advantage of her, she looked so helpless and fragile, I sat with her at an all night coffee shop,
and by the time the sun came up we were on our way to the addicts center,
I would visit her sometimes, and bring her some torah lectures by rabbi Amnon Yitzchak,
Today B"H she's married to a young Avrech, she has 4 kids and one on the way,
she wants to become Rabbanit, and gives lectures everyweek to troubled young girls.
so... it just shows you, that anything is possible, and in the end it's all up to you
to decide what to make of your life...
What does her husband think about her past?
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Re: "...What does her husband think about her past?..."
My Daddy advised me "Always do business with an established firm."
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The First Nurses were, and some men still think they are
Are you trying to say that the first nurses were women of the night? :o
I am not trying to say it I am saying it. Flo Nightingale trained the Ladies off the street to be the first nurses, because it was not a job for respectable ladies to be undressing men that was not their husbands.
Plus if the new nurses got sick then it was not involving the upper class. Yes that Flo was a charmer alright :-\
Christianwhitenation.name is quite correct, many military women do entertain the troops in that way.
Theres alot of temptation either way. And fear, long hours, and missing normal life does play a role in that.
Thats why I love computers, now you are never far from loved ones and what comfort you find in another is replaced by the contact with your family and partner.
You really don't know what it is like just to talk to your family, and they tell you about just anything boring stuff. It means so much and does keep you sane.
Others they that don't have that do other means to escape from the reality they are in.
Its a different world, and really what happens there stays there. Military and civvy life are different sides to the one coin.
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Re: "...What does her husband think about her past?..."
My Daddy advised me "Always do business with an established firm."
Totally agree 8;)
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We don't want to believe our daughters in the military do such things but Im sure quite a few see It as comforting those whom they might have to die with.
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Yes many wish to believe what they want, let them. It never once changes what the truth is.
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On Pm Ill really tell you all why I feel this way.! ;)
But we do have Childs here so!
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On Pm Ill really tell you all why I feel this way.! ;)
But we do have Childs here so!
Yes we do, some things are best for them to find out later ^-^
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Yup and remaining ,Abstaining is easy at home but when away from home and loved ones , this changes things.One still should try,but there is a reason I say this.Again the kids are watching!For those with interest PM me .I should be respectful at all times and will.
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I don't care if she has repented.. I would much rather wait for a good girl with a good past. Unless of course I hit 50 and still haven't found a woman.. then I won't be so picky. At the rate I'm going now, I think I'll have to stop being picky.
Define "Promiscuous", what you might consider promiscuous, I might consider a very nice girl that simply wasn't dead before we met. ;D
What? She had a boyfriend or two? (If so, that's nothing) Or was she with every man between here and the horizon? In that case run for the hills.
It's not about having a boyfriend. It's about having pre-martial sex. Pre-marital sex IS NOT acceptable.
Well duh, of course, when I said "boyfriend" it's implied, I was trying to be polite and subtle considering the sensitive sensibilities of this message board. ::)
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SOo,It doesn't matter.We send Our soldiers to a desert with no alcohol, no women, hide your star of David Hide your cross,We must not upset our enemies who want us and your family all died.So If some one supplies a little comfort well?What other army does this to their soldiers?Its sick to do this to men.IT makes our soldiersa bunch of m.Cant say because of the Kids, but you can guess and thats really sick!I would rather be with an ugly women soldier.Holding hands!
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The First Nurses were, and some men still think they are
Are you trying to say that the first nurses were women of the night? :o
I am not trying to say it I am saying it. Flo Nightingale trained the Ladies off the street to be the first nurses, because it was not a job for respectable ladies to be undressing men that was not their husbands.
Plus if the new nurses got sick then it was not involving the upper class. Yes that Flo was a charmer alright :-\
Christianwhitenation.name is quite correct, many military women do entertain the troops in that way.
Theres alot of temptation either way. And fear, long hours, and missing normal life does play a role in that.
Thats why I love computers, now you are never far from loved ones and what comfort you find in another is replaced by the contact with your family and partner.
You really don't know what it is like just to talk to your family, and they tell you about just anything boring stuff. It means so much and does keep you sane.
Others they that don't have that do other means to escape from the reality they are in.
Its a different world, and really what happens there stays there. Military and civvy life are different sides to the one coin.
??? :(
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This one is personal >:(
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Many women in the military behave like they were raised by slut wolves. Remember, even if a girl has jumped off the ugly tree and hit every branch coming down, it is still possible for her to be the prettiest girl in a military unit of sex-starved men, so you can imagine what that leads to--Janet Reno Jr. suddenly becomes Paris Hilton. The military is the ugly girl's ticket to popularity.
How many IDF female soldiers have you seen? Russian ones?
And Australia has women too that make Paris look like a left over meal.
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This one is personal >:(
Don't worry over children ;)
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Paris is gross !She is an poster child for women with aids!
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I would definitely prefer a virgin, but a girl who has sexually sinned and repented will not be counted out by me.
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Paris is gross !She is an poster child for women with aids!
No doubt she might already have that. She is far from careful in what she does :-\
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LOl!
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Tell you what the queer ones have more of my respect.They try harder!And I get along better with them even to the point of being friends! ;)
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Many women in the military behave like they were raised by slut wolves. Remember, even if a girl has jumped off the ugly tree and hit every branch coming down, it is still possible for her to be the prettiest girl in a military unit of sex-starved men, so you can imagine what that leads to--Janet Reno Jr. suddenly becomes Paris Hilton. The military is the ugly girl's ticket to popularity.
How many IDF female soldiers have you seen? Russian ones?
And Australia has women too that make Paris look like a left over meal.
Well for one thing, the majority of young Israelis have to serve in the IDF. If we had every girl in America serving then sure, we'd have some prettier female soldiers/sailors too. But we have a volunteer service so the women that sign up tend to be more butch and have the very un-feminine "I want to go to boot camp and play in the mud" mentality. I'm not sure about how Russia and Australia are on the volunteer issue, or if their prettiest women join the military or not, but in America we sure get a lot of homely women in the military. Not all, just most.
Well I got say you are very much mistaken. http://www.militaryglobal.com/forum/index.php/topic,1294.0.html
There are some very pretty women serving , and some how they don't look like butch ones to me.
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Me either! ;)
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One of our major Jewish Prophets was commanded by G-d to marry a prostitute.
True!
Yes, but it was not because it is a good thing to do so.
It was so that Hoshea' could see the parable for what Am Yisrael was doing when they did idolatry. Namely, spiritual adultery.
You can't learn from the Book of Hoshea that we should all find hookers and marry them.
That's ridiculous.
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Yes a promiscuous woman can change she looking for the right man, when she finds him she will settle.
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She will settle? Who said he will?
I never known a man to choose, its always the woman. We choose who we want, then we go to and get them 8;)
Men do not know what they want until they are told :::D
Well, thanks a lot for this self-motivational legend!
Let me correct you a little:
1) Women have greater authority in chosing with whom to sleep;
2) Men have greater authority with whom to stay.
Well I have never had a guy leave me or want to leave. Its always been me thats done it. And every married woman I know, had to tell the guy what to do, of course in a way they think its their choice. ^-^
Thats all apart of being a woman.
Dear friend, we are not discussing mental illnesses here. We are talking about Judaism.
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Yes a promiscuous woman can change she looking for the right man, when she finds him she will settle.
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She will settle? Who said he will?
I never known a man to choose, its always the woman. We choose who we want, then we go to and get them 8;)
Men do not know what they want until they are told :::D
Well, thanks a lot for this self-motivational legend!
Let me correct you a little:
1) Women have greater authority in chosing with whom to sleep;
2) Men have greater authority with whom to stay.
Well I have never had a guy leave me or want to leave. Its always been me thats done it. And every married woman I know, had to tell the guy what to do, of course in a way they think its their choice. ^-^
Thats all apart of being a woman.
Dear friend, we are not discussing mental illnesses here. We are talking about Judaism.
What do you think Jewish women do? Hmmm
You think women have a mental illness? what? I really not understanding your statement?
Geez I think you need to lighten up.
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Many women in the military behave like they were raised by slut wolves. Remember, even if a girl has jumped off the ugly tree and hit every branch coming down, it is still possible for her to be the prettiest girl in a military unit of sex-starved men, so you can imagine what that leads to--Janet Reno Jr. suddenly becomes Paris Hilton. The military is the ugly girl's ticket to popularity.
How many IDF female soldiers have you seen? Russian ones?
And Australia has women too that make Paris look like a left over meal.
Well for one thing, the majority of young Israelis have to serve in the IDF. If we had every girl in America serving then sure, we'd have some prettier female soldiers/sailors too. But we have a volunteer service so the women that sign up tend to be more butch and have the very un-feminine "I want to go to boot camp and play in the mud" mentality. I'm not sure about how Russia and Australia are on the volunteer issue, or if their prettiest women join the military or not, but in America we sure get a lot of homely women in the military. Not all, just most.
Well I got say you are very much mistaken. http://www.militaryglobal.com/forum/index.php/topic,1294.0.html
There are some very pretty women serving , and some how they don't look like butch ones to me.
It is correct that there are SOME pretty women serving, just not most. And that website wasn't very convincing because one of the girls there I thought was a man at first.
LOL I have done my best ;D ::) Each to their own.
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I would definitely prefer a virgin, but a girl who has sexually sinned and repented will not be counted out by me.
Most Sensible answer.
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It is possable but a RARITY. Usually it takes something immense and tragic to change but than again....many don't..... A zebra doesn't change its' stripes.....imo
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Anyone can change , if they have the will to. Some times people must hit the bottom, before they can look up and see the light. I don't believe it happens often, but it does and can happen.
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Yes a promiscuous woman can change she looking for the right man, when she finds him she will settle.
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She will settle? Who said he will?
I never known a man to choose, its always the woman. We choose who we want, then we go to and get them 8;)
Men do not know what they want until they are told :::D
Well, thanks a lot for this self-motivational legend!
Let me correct you a little:
1) Women have greater authority in chosing with whom to sleep;
2) Men have greater authority with whom to stay.
Well I have never had a guy leave me or want to leave. Its always been me thats done it. And every married woman I know, had to tell the guy what to do, of course in a way they think its their choice. ^-^
Thats all apart of being a woman.
Dear friend, we are not discussing mental illnesses here. We are talking about Judaism.
What do you think Jewish women do? Hmmm
You think women have a mental illness? what? I really not understanding your statement?
Geez I think you need to lighten up.
"Well I have never had a guy leave me or want to leave. Its always been me thats done it."
This is clearly a mental disorder. A normal woman in general, and a normal Jewish woman specifically would not think or act this way.
This is the reason why women like you should not be taken seriously.
And don't pull this "What do you think Jewish women do?" on me as if you knew something I don't know.
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Yes a promiscuous woman can change she looking for the right man, when she finds him she will settle.
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She will settle? Who said he will?
I never known a man to choose, its always the woman. We choose who we want, then we go to and get them 8;)
Men do not know what they want until they are told :::D
Well, thanks a lot for this self-motivational legend!
Let me correct you a little:
1) Women have greater authority in chosing with whom to sleep;
2) Men have greater authority with whom to stay.
Well I have never had a guy leave me or want to leave. Its always been me thats done it. And every married woman I know, had to tell the guy what to do, of course in a way they think its their choice. ^-^
Thats all apart of being a woman.
Dear friend, we are not discussing mental illnesses here. We are talking about Judaism.
What do you think Jewish women do? Hmmm
You think women have a mental illness? what? I really not understanding your statement?
Geez I think you need to lighten up.
"Well I have never had a guy leave me or want to leave. Its always been me thats done it."
This is clearly a mental disorder. A normal woman in general, and a normal Jewish woman specifically would not think or act this way.
This is the reason why women like you should not be taken seriously.
And don't pull this "What do you think Jewish women do?" on me as if you knew something I don't know.
You know little about women.
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ZBM no woman has to put up with abusive men, and if you think you are to control and domainate women, you are in the wrong religion.
I have never known in my life a jewish woman that doesn't have the right of say.
This attitude is why Jewish women take non jew partners.
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Yes a promiscuous woman can change she looking for the right man, when she finds him she will settle.
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She will settle? Who said he will?
I never known a man to choose, its always the woman. We choose who we want, then we go to and get them 8;)
Men do not know what they want until they are told :::D
Well, thanks a lot for this self-motivational legend!
Let me correct you a little:
1) Women have greater authority in chosing with whom to sleep;
2) Men have greater authority with whom to stay.
Well I have never had a guy leave me or want to leave. Its always been me thats done it. And every married woman I know, had to tell the guy what to do, of course in a way they think its their choice. ^-^
Thats all apart of being a woman.
Dear friend, we are not discussing mental illnesses here. We are talking about Judaism.
What do you think Jewish women do? Hmmm
You think women have a mental illness? what? I really not understanding your statement?
Geez I think you need to lighten up.
"Well I have never had a guy leave me or want to leave. Its always been me thats done it."
This is clearly a mental disorder. A normal woman in general, and a normal Jewish woman specifically would not think or act this way.
This is the reason why women like you should not be taken seriously.
And don't pull this "What do you think Jewish women do?" on me as if you knew something I don't know.
You know little about women.
You know nothing about life.
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ZBM no woman has to put up with abusive men, and if you think you are to control and domainate women, you are in the wrong religion.
I have never known in my life a jewish woman that doesn't have the right of say.
This attitude is why Jewish women take non jew partners.
This silly mussar that you gave us here is totally off the mark. A Jewish woman takes a non-Jewish "partner" because she herself doesn't want to be Jewish. It's reprehensible to say that intermarriage is the fault of the Jewish man. It is the fault of the Jew him/herself and this nasty exile of 2000 years. What I think ZBM is trying to say is that a Jewish woman of true Jewish values does not enter a relationship because it "feels good", uses the guy up like potato chips for all he's worth, and then dumps him when things get uninteresting. I'm NOT saying this is indeed what YOU DO, Infidel, but ZBM seems to interpret what you said that way, accurately or inaccurately.
ZBM is funny I am not being mean to him, just he reminds me of so many I have meet. I am a little naughty I admit it. But one thing I learnt I am no where near as bad as some I meet in New York.
I was at a dinner it was a womans thing, no men. There was married women and single, young girls.
Eating chatting get the picture. Some of the things that was said I was going whoa! Too much information. They teaching their daughters to go for money.
I said what about love? They all looked at me like I was weird. Maybe I am, I prefer love over money any day.
And Ynet run a piece on Jewish women in relationships, its on an Iran forum I see if I can find its every interesting.
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As a New Yorker I'm starting to feel a little insulted and if I were a Jewish man - I would already be. ;)
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Hey aren't most here from the big apple?
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As a New Yorker I'm starting to feel a little insulted and if I were a Jewish man - I would already be. ;)
Ok then they are all good sexy stud muffins , whoooaaa hold us women back.
Feel better :::D
It was not so much the place it just happen to be there, at that dinner.
By the way the food was really good.
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ZBM no woman has to put up with abusive men, and if you think you are to control and domainate women, you are in the wrong religion.
I have never known in my life a jewish woman that doesn't have the right of say.
This attitude is why Jewish women take non jew partners.
Dear Infidel, you appear to be an infidel not only for Islam, but to Judaism as well.
I could care less if you are ethnically Jewish, most likely of Russian Jewish origin. You have to maintain your Jewishness, since we are a religio-nation, and not just a nation.
"Abusive men"? "Wrong religion"?
What the heck are you talking about? If there are any men that are least abusive to women, those would be the Jewish ones. But I feel you are just using loud words, just as Blacks use racism and HATE crime left and right.
"This attitude is why Jewish women take non jew partners"?
Do you really want me to comment on this self-insult here?
Once again, my dear infidel friend, you are not the one who defines Judaism. Judaism has been once defined, and any actions to alter it will make you farther and more contrary to it.
And thus, you don't have any chance to prove anyone here that being a slut is acceptable to Judaism.
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That is Quite a feat.Yacov O0
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Your signature says: "Coffee, chocolate and men.. In that order."
Thanks to this order, the Russian Jews have over 80% divorce rate.
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ZBM no woman has to put up with abusive men, and if you think you are to control and domainate women, you are in the wrong religion.
I have never known in my life a jewish woman that doesn't have the right of say.
This attitude is why Jewish women take non jew partners.
Dear Infidel, you appear to be an infidel not only for Islam, but to Judaism as well.
I could care less if you are ethnically Jewish, most likely of Russian Jewish origin. You have to maintain your Jewishness, since we are a religio-nation, and not just a nation.
"Abusive men"? "Wrong religion"?
What the heck are you talking about? If there are any men that are least abusive to women, those would be the Jewish ones. But I feel you are just using loud words, just as Blacks use racism and HATE crime left and right.
"This attitude is why Jewish women take non jew partners"?
Do you really want me to comment on this self-insult here?
Once again, my dear infidel friend, you are not the one who defines Judaism. Judaism has been once defined, and any actions to alter it will make you farther and more contrary to it.
And thus, you don't have any chance to prove anyone here that being a slut is acceptable to Judaism.
I have never once gone against Judaism and never will. I never once tried to define anything just only stated what I have seen heard and been apart of.
I don't support sluts as you put it, I do support womens rights.
To whore around is unacceptable, but to have been married twice like my self I don't see how I am a slut for doing so.
Or a Slut for leaving abusive marriages, that just about claimed my life.
But if that makes me a slut in your eyes well theres little I can do about that.
Good day.
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As a New Yorker I'm starting to feel a little insulted and if I were a Jewish man - I would already be. ;)
Ok then they are all good sexy stud muffins , whoooaaa hold us women back.
Feel better :::D
It was not so much the place it just happen to be there, at that dinner.
By the way the food was really good.
Not all of any group is great...but most of my male Jewish friends are all around good guys.
I wasn't insulted for NewYork as much as I was for female New Yorkers.
No big deal.
PS - I agree Yacov - Congratulations for the great forum you started.
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D'varim (Deuteronomy) 22: 21-22:
20. But if this matter was true: [indeed,] no evidence of the girl's virginity was found
21. they shall take the girl out to the entrance of her father's house, and the men of her city shall pelt her with stones, and she shall die, for she did a disgraceful thing in Israel, to commit adultery [in] her father's house. So shall you clear away the evil from among you.
The good old days. *sigh*
Thanks, man. ...Sigh... These infidels don't get it no matter how you try. ;D
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You know I didn't want to bring up stoning ,but well, you did so I don't need to.LOL
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As a New Yorker I'm starting to feel a little insulted and if I were a Jewish man - I would already be. ;)
Ok then they are all good sexy stud muffins , whoooaaa hold us women back.
Feel better :::D
It was not so much the place it just happen to be there, at that dinner.
By the way the food was really good.
Not all of any group is great...but most of my male Jewish friends are all around good guys.
I wasn't insulted for NewYork as much as I was for female New Yorkers.
No big deal.
PS - I agree Yacov - Congratulations for the great forum you started.
http://jwa.org/feminism/ These people put on the dinner.
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D'varim (Deuteronomy) 22: 21-22:
20. But if this matter was true: [indeed,] no evidence of the girl's virginity was found
21. they shall take the girl out to the entrance of her father's house, and the men of her city shall pelt her with stones, and she shall die, for she did a disgraceful thing in Israel, to commit adultery [in] her father's house. So shall you clear away the evil from among you.
The good old days. *sigh*
Isn't more throwing acid now a days?
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You went to it?They are you know.....LIBERALS!LOL
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You went to it?They are you know.....LIBERALS!LOL
It was free food, coffee and chocolate 8;)
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As a New Yorker I'm starting to feel a little insulted and if I were a Jewish man - I would already be. ;)
Ok then they are all good sexy stud muffins , whoooaaa hold us women back.
Feel better :::D
It was not so much the place it just happen to be there, at that dinner.
By the way the food was really good.
Not all of any group is great...but most of my male Jewish friends are all around good guys.
I wasn't insulted for NewYork as much as I was for female New Yorkers.
No big deal.
PS - I agree Yacov - Congratulations for the great forum you started.
http://jwa.org/feminism/ These people put on the dinner.
:o It must have been more of a freak show then a dinner. Those are not normal women - by any stretch of the imagination - they just hate men in general.
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As a New Yorker I'm starting to feel a little insulted and if I were a Jewish man - I would already be. ;)
Ok then they are all good sexy stud muffins , whoooaaa hold us women back.
Feel better :::D
It was not so much the place it just happen to be there, at that dinner.
By the way the food was really good.
Not all of any group is great...but most of my male Jewish friends are all around good guys.
I wasn't insulted for NewYork as much as I was for female New Yorkers.
No big deal.
PS - I agree Yacov - Congratulations for the great forum you started.
http://jwa.org/feminism/ These people put on the dinner.
:o It must have been more of a freak show then a dinner. Those are not normal women - by any stretch of the imagination - they just hate men in general.
As I said the food was good :::D
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Of course the food was good...you were in New York O0 :)
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Well at least the food was good ::)
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I have eaten the free food of Commies while in university at the same time damning them !!!!!!I can see that! ;)
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Speaking of food I miss NY pizza and NY bagels!Cant get the good stuff here in WV! :(Other than that we got it all!
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Speaking of food I miss NY pizza and NY bagels!Cant get the good stuff here in WV! :(Other than that we got it all!
Once you cross the Hudson the quality of food takes a nosedive.
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True but we do have lowwwwwwwww crime safe streets and beauty.But we don't have good pizza or bagels! ;)
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True but we do have lowwwwwwwww crime safe streets and beauty.But we don't have good pizza or bagels! ;)
Well you might have us there however the crime level is down quite a bit here in the big apple. The city is actually much safer than many other parts of the country. The suburbs are actually very nice here and relatively safe.
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Speaking of food I miss NY pizza and NY bagels!Cant get the good stuff here in WV! :(Other than that we got it all!
I stayed for around 2 weeks and I ate alot of bagels, I had never had them before, they were very good.
But they kept putting cream in my coffee ???
I asked for milk I got cream ::) Oh well.
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True but we do have lowwwwwwwww crime safe streets and beauty.But we don't have good pizza or bagels! ;)
Well you might have us there however the crime level is down quite a bit here in the big apple. The city is actually much safer than many other parts of the country. The suburbs are actually very nice here and relatively safe.
I thought it was safe, I never saw anything wrong. Or was ever mugged. I quite liked it. Good shopping O0
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D'varim (Deuteronomy) 22: 21-22:
20. But if this matter was true: [indeed,] no evidence of the girl's virginity was found
21. they shall take the girl out to the entrance of her father's house, and the men of her city shall pelt her with stones, and she shall die, for she did a disgraceful thing in Israel, to commit adultery [in] her father's house. So shall you clear away the evil from among you.
The good old days. *sigh*
Isn't more throwing acid now a days?
I don't know, but I suppose acid could also be used to do G-d's will. That would be a question for the Sanhedrin because only they can set up a system like this.
So you support of killing of women?
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Me?
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Me?
Not you, I know what you believe, and I know you would never harm a woman. :)
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Well a women with a homicide belt charging towards people.Yeah, that would be a soldiers Job.LOL ;)
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Well a women with a homicide belt charging towards people.Yeah, that would be a soldiers Job.LOL ;)
LMAO but how can you see it when the are fully covered ^-^
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Ill smell em coming!I will not go there full of mercy, guaranteed. O0How did you handle your time in Iraq Infidel, other than the spiders?
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Ill smell em coming!I will not go there full of mercy, guaranteed. O0How did you handle your time in Iraq Infidel, other than the spiders?
I covered my six. ;)
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Thats the only way! ;)
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Yes in and out of the ZONE. ^-^
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OF course.Maybe you should tell these folks what you have done.!Military wise.Most of these folks are young and don't have our vantage point. :)
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You want me to freak them out about the spiders don't ya :::D
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Worked for me! :)
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I hate spiders!I hate snakes.And did I mention I hate islum? :)
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I hate spiders!I hate snakes.And did I mention I hate islum? :)
oh boy you are going to hate being deployed
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Not looking forward to it. ;D
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Once a women experiences what its like to be promiscuous, can she truly change her state of mind?
Why would she have been so in the first place if she had not thought it was ok?
Somen women change, some don't.
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I've decided to help all these innocent sweet Jewish boys that are being tempted by those horrible promiscuous women, whenever you are being bothered by a promiscuous girl that is tempting you into sin, give her my contact information, send her my way, and I will keep her busy so she won't bother you anymore. :::D
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What's that old saying.... "Why buy the cow if you can get the milk for free.." Seems to apply here no?
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I've decided to help all these innocent sweet Jewish boys that are being tempted by those horrible promiscuous women, whenever you are being bothered by a promiscuous girl that is tempting you into sin, give her my contact information, send her my way, and I will keep her busy so she won't bother you anymore. :::D
New Yorker you are a Legend ;D
Women are evil succubus :D
And when they are over 30, blonde, G-d help you all!
:::D
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Once a women experiences what its like to be promiscuous, can she truly change her state of mind?
Why would she have been so in the first place if she had not thought it was ok?
Somen women change, some don't.
Yes they can Sarah, I have seen many promiscuous women settle down to one man, and raise families and be good people.
I really depends on why they are like that. Some because they need to feel wanted even for a short time, others because they want the world and everything that goes along with it.
And some are seen as promiscuous when they are really not.
To jump and label a woman without knowing who they really are is a sin as much as anything else. To judge one without all the facts is plain wrong, and never wise.
To assume a state without an informed choice is showing the base level of the person as one of very low brain activity. ;)
Or as I like to use the label ATAPS ( as thick as pig shite)
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Well, I was talking to this Sephardic non religious promiscuous girl for a while (she was in a pscy. ward I was doing one of my medical rotations in), and tried very cleverly to get her to not marry her catholic boyfriend & to keep Shabbat using the method I've posted here. I might have had partial success since I got her interested in being religious the more she talked with me and she said she'll start keeping Shabbat. She still wanted to marry the guy though, but he ran away back to his homeland since she was crazy. Funny story, but true.
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I quite like crazy people, no matter what they are always honest.
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I usually get along with crazy's and Blacks that are racist and Homos.I don't know why they like me.Probably because I speak what I believe!
I tell them right up and then we get along. ;)
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Once a women experiences what its like to be promiscuous, can she truly change her state of mind?
Why would she have been so in the first place if she had not thought it was ok?
Somen women change, some don't.
Yes they can Sarah, I have seen many promiscuous women settle down to one man, and raise families and be good people.
I really depends on why they are like that. Some because they need to feel wanted even for a short time, others because they want the world and everything that goes along with it.
And some are seen as promiscuous when they are really not.
To jump and label a woman without knowing who they really are is a sin as much as anything else. To judge one without all the facts is plain wrong, and never wise.
To assume a state without an informed choice is showing the base level of the person as one of very low brain activity. ;)
Or as I like to use the label ATAPS ( as thick as pig shite)
Brilliant!....................................................................Fantastic!
Now I understand: promiscuous women have their reasons to be sluts!
How didn’t I get it before?!?! This should have been so obvious to me!
The Infidel is right – according to her religion it is a sin to judge such women.
Well, in my religion, it is sin to marry such serpents.
Unfortunately, I have a rich experience of running into such “innocent sinners”, who claimed to have made a mistake and swore of repenting. But as soon as they saw a slightest sign of understanding and forgiveness, they would little by little find justifications to their evil behavior and little by little try to prove you that you are wrong in judging her, and that your morals are wrong and not hers.
And thus, if you have self-respect, honor, and morals, don’t buy this crap!
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I agree with Zvulun ben Moshe, that most promiscuous women will remain evil throughout their lives. But the question is can th be reformed, and I think that a few can potentially be reformed.
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And we must be fair.TO have whores one must have whore mongers.It takes two to tango. ::)
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And we must be fair.TO have whores one must have whore mongers.It takes two to tango. ::)
Thats right! blame a woman for a man that can't keep his twig in his pants. ^-^
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Once a women experiences what its like to be promiscuous, can she truly change her state of mind?
Why would she have been so in the first place if she had not thought it was ok?
Somen women change, some don't.
Yes they can Sarah, I have seen many promiscuous women settle down to one man, and raise families and be good people.
I really depends on why they are like that. Some because they need to feel wanted even for a short time, others because they want the world and everything that goes along with it.
And some are seen as promiscuous when they are really not.
To jump and label a woman without knowing who they really are is a sin as much as anything else. To judge one without all the facts is plain wrong, and never wise.
To assume a state without an informed choice is showing the base level of the person as one of very low brain activity. ;)
Or as I like to use the label ATAPS ( as thick as pig shite)
Brilliant!....................................................................Fantastic!
Now I understand: promiscuous women have their reasons to be sluts!
How didn’t I get it before?!?! This should have been so obvious to me!
The Infidel is right – according to her religion it is a sin to judge such women.
Well, in my religion, it is sin to marry such serpents.
Unfortunately, I have a rich experience of running into such “innocent sinners”, who claimed to have made a mistake and swore of repenting. But as soon as they saw a slightest sign of understanding and forgiveness, they would little by little find justifications to their evil behavior and little by little try to prove you that you are wrong in judging her, and that your morals are wrong and not hers.
And thus, if you have self-respect, honor, and morals, don’t buy this crap!
Yes women are bad EVIL EVIL :::D
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I agree with Zvulun ben Moshe, that most promiscuous women will remain evil throughout their lives. But the question is can th be reformed, and I think that a few can potentially be reformed.
The question is, my friend, do you personally want to take a chance with such a statistic?
Do you personally want to be in such position when she in 99% will continue to be evil and only in 1% will truly change?
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Not what I meant Infidel and we all agree the man is as guilty as the women.And sorry for males and females left in the dust.
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Hosea?Anyone.Not meant disrespectfully!
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Once a women experiences what its like to be promiscuous, can she truly change her state of mind?
Why would she have been so in the first place if she had not thought it was ok?
Somen women change, some don't.
Yes they can Sarah, I have seen many promiscuous women settle down to one man, and raise families and be good people.
I really depends on why they are like that. Some because they need to feel wanted even for a short time, others because they want the world and everything that goes along with it.
And some are seen as promiscuous when they are really not.
To jump and label a woman without knowing who they really are is a sin as much as anything else. To judge one without all the facts is plain wrong, and never wise.
To assume a state without an informed choice is showing the base level of the person as one of very low brain activity. ;)
Or as I like to use the label ATAPS ( as thick as pig shite)
Brilliant!....................................................................Fantastic!
Now I understand: promiscuous women have their reasons to be sluts!
How didn’t I get it before?!?! This should have been so obvious to me!
The Infidel is right – according to her religion it is a sin to judge such women.
Well, in my religion, it is sin to marry such serpents.
Unfortunately, I have a rich experience of running into such “innocent sinners”, who claimed to have made a mistake and swore of repenting. But as soon as they saw a slightest sign of understanding and forgiveness, they would little by little find justifications to their evil behavior and little by little try to prove you that you are wrong in judging her, and that your morals are wrong and not hers.
And thus, if you have self-respect, honor, and morals, don’t buy this crap!
Yes women are bad EVIL EVIL :::D
Women? Don't generalize by putting yourself in the same category with others. Women are not evil, but some are, including those whom you are defending here, and I have a strong feeling, are being a part of.
Women are the blood in our vessels. Promiscuous women are a cancer.
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Not what I meant Infidel and we all agree the man is as guilty as the women.And sorry for males and females left in the dust.
Yes I know, thats the problem of the thought processes.
Being judged as a group and not as an individual.
A very common theme for this forum at times.
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Hosea?Anyone.Not meant disrespectfully!
You are disrespectfull in taking the story of Hosea out of context. Why won't you tell the whole story here?
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Once a women experiences what its like to be promiscuous, can she truly change her state of mind?
Why would she have been so in the first place if she had not thought it was ok?
Somen women change, some don't.
Yes they can Sarah, I have seen many promiscuous women settle down to one man, and raise families and be good people.
I really depends on why they are like that. Some because they need to feel wanted even for a short time, others because they want the world and everything that goes along with it.
And some are seen as promiscuous when they are really not.
To jump and label a woman without knowing who they really are is a sin as much as anything else. To judge one without all the facts is plain wrong, and never wise.
To assume a state without an informed choice is showing the base level of the person as one of very low brain activity. ;)
Or as I like to use the label ATAPS ( as thick as pig shite)
Brilliant!....................................................................Fantastic!
Now I understand: promiscuous women have their reasons to be sluts!
How didn’t I get it before?!?! This should have been so obvious to me!
The Infidel is right – according to her religion it is a sin to judge such women.
Well, in my religion, it is sin to marry such serpents.
Unfortunately, I have a rich experience of running into such “innocent sinners”, who claimed to have made a mistake and swore of repenting. But as soon as they saw a slightest sign of understanding and forgiveness, they would little by little find justifications to their evil behavior and little by little try to prove you that you are wrong in judging her, and that your morals are wrong and not hers.
And thus, if you have self-respect, honor, and morals, don’t buy this crap!
Yes women are bad EVIL EVIL :::D
Women? Don't generalize by putting yourself in the same category with others. Women are not evil, but some are, including those whom you are defending here, and I have a strong feeling, are being a part of.
Women are the blood in our vessels. Promiscuous women are a cancer.
Oh so you think I am an evil slut?
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Once a women experiences what its like to be promiscuous, can she truly change her state of mind?
Why would she have been so in the first place if she had not thought it was ok?
Somen women change, some don't.
Yes they can Sarah, I have seen many promiscuous women settle down to one man, and raise families and be good people.
I really depends on why they are like that. Some because they need to feel wanted even for a short time, others because they want the world and everything that goes along with it.
And some are seen as promiscuous when they are really not.
To jump and label a woman without knowing who they really are is a sin as much as anything else. To judge one without all the facts is plain wrong, and never wise.
To assume a state without an informed choice is showing the base level of the person as one of very low brain activity. ;)
Or as I like to use the label ATAPS ( as thick as pig shite)
Brilliant!....................................................................Fantastic!
Now I understand: promiscuous women have their reasons to be sluts!
How didn’t I get it before?!?! This should have been so obvious to me!
The Infidel is right – according to her religion it is a sin to judge such women.
Well, in my religion, it is sin to marry such serpents.
Unfortunately, I have a rich experience of running into such “innocent sinners”, who claimed to have made a mistake and swore of repenting. But as soon as they saw a slightest sign of understanding and forgiveness, they would little by little find justifications to their evil behavior and little by little try to prove you that you are wrong in judging her, and that your morals are wrong and not hers.
And thus, if you have self-respect, honor, and morals, don’t buy this crap!
Yes women are bad EVIL EVIL :::D
Women? Don't generalize by putting yourself in the same category with others. Women are not evil, but some are, including those whom you are defending here, and I have a strong feeling, are being a part of.
Women are the blood in our vessels. Promiscuous women are a cancer.
Oh so you think I am an evil slut?
I don't want to judge you. I am sure, you have your reasons to be whatever you are. But don't defend them here. Wrong venue.
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Zv .Touchy!I meant it in a good way.I know the story and its spiritual message.Why when I said no disrespect would you assume I would disrespect a major Prophet.Stop reading into people and stop assuming.
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Zv .Touchy!I meant it in a good way.I know the story and its spiritual message.Why when I said no disrespect would you assume I would disrespect a major Prophet.Stop reading into people and stop assuming.
I will, if you try to be just a little bit clearer next time.
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Once a women experiences what its like to be promiscuous, can she truly change her state of mind?
Why would she have been so in the first place if she had not thought it was ok?
Somen women change, some don't.
Yes they can Sarah, I have seen many promiscuous women settle down to one man, and raise families and be good people.
I really depends on why they are like that. Some because they need to feel wanted even for a short time, others because they want the world and everything that goes along with it.
And some are seen as promiscuous when they are really not.
To jump and label a woman without knowing who they really are is a sin as much as anything else. To judge one without all the facts is plain wrong, and never wise.
To assume a state without an informed choice is showing the base level of the person as one of very low brain activity. ;)
Or as I like to use the label ATAPS ( as thick as pig shite)
Brilliant!....................................................................Fantastic!
Now I understand: promiscuous women have their reasons to be sluts!
How didn’t I get it before?!?! This should have been so obvious to me!
The Infidel is right – according to her religion it is a sin to judge such women.
Well, in my religion, it is sin to marry such serpents.
Unfortunately, I have a rich experience of running into such “innocent sinners”, who claimed to have made a mistake and swore of repenting. But as soon as they saw a slightest sign of understanding and forgiveness, they would little by little find justifications to their evil behavior and little by little try to prove you that you are wrong in judging her, and that your morals are wrong and not hers.
And thus, if you have self-respect, honor, and morals, don’t buy this crap!
Yes women are bad EVIL EVIL :::D
Women? Don't generalize by putting yourself in the same category with others. Women are not evil, but some are, including those whom you are defending here, and I have a strong feeling, are being a part of.
Women are the blood in our vessels. Promiscuous women are a cancer.
Oh so you think I am an evil slut?
I don't want to judge you. I am sure, you have your reasons to be whatever you are. But don't defend them here. Wrong venue.
What do you mean I am not allowed an opinion now!
Is my opinion different to yours so I can't state it.
Or is that how you treat women in general only say what I want to hear and believe.
I will defend whom I choose, and if you don't like it thats too bad.
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And Bullcat why defend Erika to the death and approve of something no child should see .
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It is nice if people can be reformed. ;) I'm sure some can.
I don't think anyone should ever count on their partner changing.
It is the wrong attitude to have when entering a relationship.
If you can't accept someone as they are - forget it!
What is that saying - A leopard can't change it's spots.
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And Bullcat why defend Erika to the death and approve of something no child should see .
What are you talking about?
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I would not let my child see such a bunch of garbage no matter who who wrote it.
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I asked you a question.
What are you talking about ???
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It is nice if people can be reformed. ;) I'm sure some can.
I don't think anyone should ever count on their partner changing.
It is the wrong attitude to have when entering a relationship.
If you can't accept someone as they are - forget it!
What is that saying - A leopard can't change it's spots.
Thats right, people need to get along with each other who you choose as an individual partner is no ones business than their own.
To find someone you love and want to stay with for the rest of your life is special, when you really love another all your heart and soul, nothing that another says will ever change it.
This looking soley on the surface of a person is all to do with lust not love. And I think few here really know the meaning of what love really is.
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NOt funny Bull cat!
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It is nice if people can be reformed. ;) I'm sure some can.
I don't think anyone should ever count on their partner changing.
It is the wrong attitude to have when entering a relationship.
If you can't accept someone as they are - forget it!
What is that saying - A leopard can't change it's spots.
It would be wonderful if people wanted to sincerely repent.
However very often, it is only you who wants to see them repent.
And they see that and they say that they do, but they don't.
Major sins are made out of an enourmous egoism and no egoist will think that he or she is a wrongdoer.
They twist you into believing that you can always find justifications, to anything.
And if you are succesful in finding justification to whatever you want to do, you will soon find that others do the same, and then you can trust no one, just like in a jungle.
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This thread is going no where.Bye
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Z'vulin, are you aware that Joshua's wife was an ex prostitute who sincerely repented and converted to Judaisim according to the Talmud.
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For the most part...this forum and the people on it are wonderful.
I don't defend Erica - I defend her right to be a member of this forum.
I'm not afraid of her or her opinions. I always knew where she stood.
This thread is not the appropriate place for this discussion CWN.name.
If you were offended I apologize
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Z'vulin, are you aware that Joshua's wife was an ex prostitute who sincerely repented and converted to Judaisim according to the Talmud.
He is clearly not aware of a lot of things.
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It is nice if people can be reformed. ;) I'm sure some can.
I don't think anyone should ever count on their partner changing.
It is the wrong attitude to have when entering a relationship.
If you can't accept someone as they are - forget it!
What is that saying - A leopard can't change it's spots.
Thats right, people need to get along with each other who you choose as an individual partner is no ones business than their own.
To find someone you love and want to stay with for the rest of your life is special, when you really love another all your heart and soul, nothing that another says will ever change it.
This looking soley on the surface of a person is all to do with lust not love. And I think few here really know the meaning of what love really is.
The woman who a minute ago was showing off how she was always the one who left her men is now talking about love?
What a self-contradiction, which is usually called hypocricy.
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Z'vulin, are you aware that Joshua's wife was an ex prostitute who sincerely repented and converted to Judaisim according to the Talmud.
JDL, you are clearly avoiding answering my question. Do you want to be in place of Joshua or Hosea or whoever else?
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I said that I would currently avoid such a woman with a ten foot pole. But if I was 40 years old and could not find anyone suitable to marry and I get along with such a person, then if she was currently righteous then I would consider her.
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It is nice if people can be reformed. ;) I'm sure some can.
I don't think anyone should ever count on their partner changing.
It is the wrong attitude to have when entering a relationship.
If you can't accept someone as they are - forget it!
What is that saying - A leopard can't change it's spots.
Thats right, people need to get along with each other who you choose as an individual partner is no ones business than their own.
To find someone you love and want to stay with for the rest of your life is special, when you really love another all your heart and soul, nothing that another says will ever change it.
This looking soley on the surface of a person is all to do with lust not love. And I think few here really know the meaning of what love really is.
I'm surprised that you would say that few here really know the meaning of what love really is.
I think just the opposite.
I would not feel very comfortable being involved with a man who had a very promiscuous past.
Does that mean I don't really know the meaning of love or that I know what is right for me?
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It is nice if people can be reformed. ;) I'm sure some can.
I don't think anyone should ever count on their partner changing.
It is the wrong attitude to have when entering a relationship.
If you can't accept someone as they are - forget it!
What is that saying - A leopard can't change it's spots.
Thats right, people need to get along with each other who you choose as an individual partner is no ones business than their own.
To find someone you love and want to stay with for the rest of your life is special, when you really love another all your heart and soul, nothing that another says will ever change it.
This looking soley on the surface of a person is all to do with lust not love. And I think few here really know the meaning of what love really is.
The woman who a minute ago was showing off how she was always the one who left her men is now talking about love?
What a self-contradiction, which is usually called hypocricy.
No :::D
Its what I said all the time, you need to find love and be happy in relationships, not stuck in an abusive one. All women are the same, just how men see them.
SO thats your problem is it finally, you don't like women leaving relationships.
Does it matter who leaves, if the relationship is so broken it will just destroy the people in it.
You are very bitter man, I now understand why.
Good day.
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No??? :::D
Now you understand? Good for you!
Hope you also understand that your deseptive self-contradictive tactics here has failed miserably.
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It is nice if people can be reformed. ;) I'm sure some can.
I don't think anyone should ever count on their partner changing.
It is the wrong attitude to have when entering a relationship.
If you can't accept someone as they are - forget it!
What is that saying - A leopard can't change it's spots.
Thats right, people need to get along with each other who you choose as an individual partner is no ones business than their own.
To find someone you love and want to stay with for the rest of your life is special, when you really love another all your heart and soul, nothing that another says will ever change it.
This looking soley on the surface of a person is all to do with lust not love. And I think few here really know the meaning of what love really is.
I'm surprised that you would say that few here really know the meaning of what love really is.
I think just the opposite.
I would not feel very comfortable being involved with a man who had a very promiscuous past.
Does that mean I don't really know the meaning of love or that I know what is right for me?
About the love is simple, many here are single, or never had a relationship.
Everyone here that has or is in one knows that the idea of love, and having a relationship is too different things.
I defend the promiscuous woman because age plays a role in all our choices.
As we get older our wants and needs change, sex plays little role in real relationships, yes its apart but its far from being every thing. A good mother, carer, wife, daughter, friend has to do with who you really are.
Not what the past has been.
I seen many people killed sinners and saints and they all bleed the same blood.
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Coffee? chocolate? men? In that order?
That indeed sounds like love, doesn't it?
Hold on, when you left those men, in which order did you leave them?
Let me guess: Men, chocolate, coffee?
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No??? :::D
Now you understand? Good for you!
Hope you also understand that your deseptive self-contradictive tactics here has failed miserably.
Yes I will think about that when in I am my husbands arms, of course you are the only one I think of at that time :::D
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No??? :::D
Now you understand? Good for you!
Hope you also understand that your deseptive self-contradictive tactics here has failed miserably.
Yes I will think about that when in I am my husbands arms, of course you are the only one I think of at that time :::D
... and chocolate.
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Now I know why most chat rooms are filled with men. :)
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It is nice if people can be reformed. ;) I'm sure some can.
I don't think anyone should ever count on their partner changing.
It is the wrong attitude to have when entering a relationship.
If you can't accept someone as they are - forget it!
What is that saying - A leopard can't change it's spots.
Thats right, people need to get along with each other who you choose as an individual partner is no ones business than their own.
To find someone you love and want to stay with for the rest of your life is special, when you really love another all your heart and soul, nothing that another says will ever change it.
This looking soley on the surface of a person is all to do with lust not love. And I think few here really know the meaning of what love really is.
The woman who a minute ago was showing off how she was always the one who left her men is now talking about love?
What a self-contradiction, which is usually called hypocricy.
No :::D
Its what I said all the time, you need to find love and be happy in relationships, not stuck in an abusive one. All women are the same, just how men see them.
SO thats your problem is it finally, you don't like women leaving relationships.
Does it matter who leaves, if the relationship is so broken it will just destroy the people in it.
You are very bitter man, I now understand why.
Good day.
Infidel, I would like you to define what the word "happy" means as it relates to a relationship. While you are at it, you might as well also define "love."
LOL for me love and being happy are the close to the same thing. Happiness for me is to be with my man, a closeness of having another near you that you would die for in a split second, one that just looks at you and you need no words to know you are the only one they desire and wish to have in their lives always.
Happiness is unspoken words, when you turn around some thing small has been done for you, a sharing of a life together. Such as when you wake you have the feeling of being protected beyond anything in this world that can harm you. A small kiss or touch means the more than all the gold and gems in the world.
Looking apon the face of your partner and seeing a little age and remembering when you knew the face was younger, and thinking yes my emotions and feelings will never change.
Unconditional support of the partner, and being their haven their comfort.
100% Trust 100% loyality 100% of wanting every breath in you life to be taken when you are with them, not apart.
That is happiness and love for me, with love there is also one more thing. Love to me is something that grows day by day, week by week, year by year. Not something that can be created in a mere wink of an eye.
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:'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
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I want hug.That was like a brave heart speech.[I know you meant it.LOL] O0 :'( :)
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I want hug.That was like a brave heart speech.[I know you meant it.LOL] O0 :'( :)
If I was there you would get a hug (non-sexual of course)
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I didn't mean otherwise you harlot.LOL O0
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I didn't mean otherwise you harlot.LOL O0
Yes I have to duck and weave past the speeding stones been thrown at me, otherwise lol
And I think Mrs Wayne can out run me too O0 :::D
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Probably .!!!!!!!!!!! :)And she could kick my old donkey!
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:::D
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whats your thoughts.... Lol :)
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This seems to be a very popular thread as it keeps appearing on my "Show new replies to your posts." over andover again and is like 14 pages long.
After all these posts, have we decided if the "promiscous" woman can or can't be reformed?
Nope because like everything to do with women theres never a clear answer. ^-^
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This seems to be a very popular thread as it keeps appearing on my "Show new replies to your posts." over andover again and is like 14 pages long.
After all these posts, have we decided if the "promiscous" woman can or can't be reformed?
Nope because like everything to do with women theres never a clear answer. ^-^
:) So we all agree to disagree
Yup ;D
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yup!
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and stone them!LOL :D
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and stone them!LOL :D
Wayne you are naughty! :::D
Stop with the stoning of women, I feel like we are on a mullah forum :-\ :::D
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Boy, this topic really took off.
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No stoning.Just kidding, but the men who mess with women who are promiscuous are also guilty. ;)
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In that case of guilt his berrys and twig need removing 8;) O0
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In that case of guilt his berrys and twig need removing 8;) O0
:-X That's a bit much for this forum isn't it? :-\
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In that case of guilt his berrys and twig need removing 8;) O0
:-X That's a bit much for this forum isn't it? :-\
What its ok too stone and throw acid over women and kill them, I suggest a little pruning and suddenly its too much ???
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Infidel ,Just saying both should be punished! O0
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Infidel ,Just saying both should be punished! O0
I know, you seem to be one of the few that has common sense. O0
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In that case of guilt his berrys and twig need removing 8;) O0
:-X That's a bit much for this forum isn't it? :-\
What its ok too stone and throw acid over women and kill them, I suggest a little pruning and suddenly its too much ???
No - the hole is just being dug deeper! ;)
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In that case of guilt his berrys and twig need removing 8;) O0
:-X That's a bit much for this forum isn't it? :-\
What its ok too stone and throw acid over women and kill them, I suggest a little pruning and suddenly its too much ???
No - the hole is just being dug deeper! ;)
Digging is good exercise ;D
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Thank you.I lose it sometimes but usually only when faced with bully's.
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Not into hatred.I love Love. :)
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Thank you.I lose it sometimes but usually only when faced with bully's.
Lucky you are in the army then O0
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I don't care for digging holes...but go right ahead. :)
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I don't care for digging holes...but go right ahead. :)
LOL :::D