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Save Western Civilization => Save Europe => Topic started by: Еврей on May 20, 2008, 08:15:07 PM
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http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3545499,00.html
3.5 years??
A slap on the wrist. NOT ENOUGH!
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he should get the death penalty
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"That was a more lenient charge than the original attempted manslaughter, after prosecutors said there was not enough evidence that Aziz intended to kill 43-year-old Gurevitch."
What evidence do they need?! A confession???
Did they think this was a joke? An accident?? ???
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3.5 years? Oh that will teach them (sarcastic tone) ::)
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He should be stoned to death. Thank G-d The Rabbi is okay. B''H
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"That was a more lenient charge than the original attempted manslaughter, after prosecutors said there was not enough evidence that Aziz intended to kill 43-year-old Gurevitch."
What evidence do they need?! A confession???
Did they think this was a joke? An accident?? ???
I asume that if you stab someone you are trying to kill them, no? :o
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"That was a more lenient charge than the original attempted manslaughter, after prosecutors said there was not enough evidence that Aziz intended to kill 43-year-old Gurevitch."
What evidence do they need?! A confession???
Did they think this was a joke? An accident?? ???
I asume that if you stab someone you are trying to kill them, no? :o
That would be coherent thought... common sense lol...
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there should be a few strong Jewish guys that go and take care of this muzzie and his family
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there should be a few strong Jewish guys that go and take care of this muzzie and his family
I agree
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actually it's much worse than reported at ynetnews:
- the attacker is not in jail right now! he left the court as a free man till the sentence will be enforced (if ever...)
here's a picture of this *@%#! leaving the court - seems quite happy with the outcome:
(http://www.bild.de/BILD/news/vermischtes/2008/05/21/rabbi-attentaeter/sahed-a-9316628-kopfgrafik.jpg)
- we must be glad that he got convicted at all! he pleaded for "selfdefense" (we all know the dangerous raging rabbis don't we?) and nearly got away with it
- even screaming "s*it jew! i'm gonna kill you!" when stabbing the rabbi the attack was not considered "antisemitic", "hatecrime" or as evidence for intending to kill the rabbi
that's the way it is nowadays in germany: per se only germans can be antisemites - when a mohammedan does something horrible like that it's always considered a singular act of an out-of-his-mind-person without any political/antisemitic background
you must know: we germans (especially our courts and police) have a genuine fear of being labled "racists" so mohammedans ("the jews of today" - yeah right...) get away with nearly anything
it's a mad world
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Didn't the Muslim beast who murdered Rabbi Kahane get away with his crime too (at least in this world)?
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The worst problem is, that the court said the words of the Muzzie "I kill you dirty Jew" and "Jewpig" is not enough to proof the antisemitic idology of the offender.
There are similar crimes from Muzzies against Jews in the past.
Two Muslims who tried to burn down the Synagoge in Düsseldorf were only convicted because of damaging property. Altrough the police found in their appartment a picture of Hitler and a lot of antisemite books.
They defended themselve with the thesis, that this Nazi-material was already in the appartment before they moved in. The court believed them this nonsense.
The concerned Synagoge-community has collected a lot of material about the attack:
http://www.jgd.de/Anschlag/Aufklaerung.htm
I suppose, that this preferential treatment of Muslims in Germany is because of leftist political parties want the Muslim vote. They are in fear of, that the Muslims will found their own parties.
Today as much as blacks in the USA voted for Jackson, as much Muslims in Germany vote for leftists parties. It is already 90 %.
The moin point is, that nearly no Muzzie in my country is able to earn enough money to pay the living of their great families. So they need welfare. The left is providing the welfare system and is in this days buisy with developing it.
This causes a natural alliance between leftists and Muzzies.
Protection and welfare in exchange for votes.
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3.5 years in jail??? That is not enough. Death is the only punishment.
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The attempted murderer had actually pleaded not guilty for self-defense...
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Are we to say that Germany is making strides in becoming a civilized country since the Holocaust? Sentencing this sandchimp to ONLY 3.5 years? We should have finished bombing GERMany
during WW2!
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Are we to say that Germany is making strides in becoming a civilized country since the Holocaust? Sentencing this sandchimp to ONLY 3.5 years? We should have finished bombing GERMany
during WW2!
That's way overreacting, There are many greater abuses of justice in Israel is that mean you wish the Arabs had finished their plan for Israel?. Moreover this was a state Bolshevik judge I think, since I don't think they have Jury in Germany.
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Are we to say that Germany is making strides in becoming a civilized country since the Holocaust? Sentencing this sandchimp to ONLY 3.5 years? We should have finished bombing GERMany
during WW2!
That's way overreacting, There are many greater abuses of justice in Israel is that mean you wish the Arabs had finished their plan for Israel?. Moreover this was a state Bolshevik judge I think, since I don't think they have Jury in Germany.
No we have only assessors in some courts.
But i think it is something different, if a descendant of Germans did this or an Israeli.
If a descendant of an evil person is doing evil, the curse of his own evil and in addition of the ancestors evil is on him. In this special case this is more than a person can take.
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Are we to say that Germany is making strides in becoming a civilized country since the Holocaust? Sentencing this sandchimp to ONLY 3.5 years? We should have finished bombing GERMany
during WW2!
That's way overreacting, There are many greater abuses of justice in Israel is that mean you wish the Arabs had finished their plan for Israel?. Moreover this was a state Bolshevik judge I think, since I don't think they have Jury in Germany.
Overreacting? Are you kidding? The difference between Jews and Germany and sandchimps and Israel: 1st: Jews and Germany: GERMany hasn't shown drek IMO to show how they've changed since the Holocaust. IMO still the same drek they were 60 years ago. Finally this was a biased attack! This wasn't just some schmuck on the street, it was a clergyman (In this case, Jewish Clergy) 65-75 years ago GERMans set out to exterminate JEWS, whilst advertising this everywhere.
2nd: Sandchimps and Israel: I find IMO we are 1,000% justified in what we're doing over there! Absolutely nowhere, did we say: "Let's kick every dirty Arab out of Israel" (Although, I support this thought wholeheartedly, we never said it!) These animals attack poor Israelis for ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! Finally, IMO we are completely justified in defending Israel.
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Are we to say that Germany is making strides in becoming a civilized country since the Holocaust? Sentencing this sandchimp to ONLY 3.5 years? We should have finished bombing GERMany
during WW2!
That's way overreacting, There are many greater abuses of justice in Israel is that mean you wish the Arabs had finished their plan for Israel?. Moreover this was a state Bolshevik judge I think, since I don't think they have Jury in Germany.
Overreacting? Are you kidding? The difference between Jews and Germany and sandchimps and Israel: 1st: Jews and Germany: GERMany hasn't shown drek IMO to show how they've changed since the Holocaust. IMO still the same drek they were 60 years ago. Finally this was a biased attack! This wasn't just some schmuck on the street, it was a clergyman (In this case, Jewish Clergy) 65-75 years ago GERMans set out to exterminate JEWS, whilst advertising this everywhere.
2nd: Sandchimps and Israel: I find IMO we are 1,000% justified in what we're doing over there! Absolutely nowhere, did we say: "Let's kick every dirty Arab out of Israel" (Although, I support this thought wholeheartedly, we never said it!) These animals attack poor Israelis for ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! Finally, IMO we are completely justified in defending Israel.
If you think that they haven't changed at all then I understand that logic why you wish destruction on them but then it isn't just because this one case. I think that they have changed, they are not a righteous nation but I don't see how wiping them out would have made things better in the world.
BTW The allies have bombed them for their own reasons but they actually helped the Nazis in exterminating the Jews.
And that analogy with Israel needs more clarification- My logic was that Israel commits misjudgments all the time including favoring Arab murderers and it doesn't mean that Israel should be destroyed because of that, the fault is mostly due to our traitorous establishment.
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Self defense?!
He was walking around with a knife!
Who does that?!?! ???
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Self defense?!
He was walking around with a knife!
Who does that?!?! ???
Nearly all Muslims in Germany have knifes, of course for self-defence ...
The press calls them Südländer, what is clearly offending to Greeks, Spains and Italians. in Greatbritain the press call them Asians.
If you search in google for Südländer + Messer (knife) you will be surprised:
http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&ned=de&q=messer%20s%C3%BCdl%C3%A4nder&sa=N&tab=nw
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Self defense?!
He was walking around with a knife!
Who does that?!?! ???
Nearly all Muslims in Germany have knifes, of course for self-defence ...
The press calls them Südländer, what is clearly offending to Greeks, Spains and Italians. in Greatbritain the press call them Asians.
If you search in google for Südländer + Messer (knife) you will be surprised:
http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&ned=de&q=messer%20s%C3%BCdl%C3%A4nder&sa=N&tab=nw
Really??
Thats crazy?
Do regular Germans carry around knives as well?
Does Südländer refer to the South of Europe, or the world?
I'm actually learning German at the moment... it means South lander or something similar, correct? :)
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Self defense?!
He was walking around with a knife!
Who does that?!?! ???
Nearly all Muslims in Germany have knifes, of course for self-defence ...
The press calls them Südländer, what is clearly offending to Greeks, Spains and Italians. in Greatbritain the press call them Asians.
If you search in google for Südländer + Messer (knife) you will be surprised:
http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&ned=de&q=messer%20s%C3%BCdl%C3%A4nder&sa=N&tab=nw
Really??
Thats crazy?
Do regular Germans carry around knives as well?
Does Südländer refer to the South of Europe, or the world?
I'm actually learning German at the moment... it means South lander or something similar, correct? :)
Südländer means in nearly all cases of crime Moslems of Arab, Albanian or Turkish decent. This type of people are totally nuts. They don't care about theirself, their families or their furure. They are reacting totally irrational, like mad dogs.
Look at this case of the Rabbi. Before this mad dog attacked the Chabad Rabbi, he attacked other people with his knife, in other cases with fists.
The punishment for this was two weeks arrest in a special prison for younger persons. ::)
You can read the whole story on the website of Gudrun Eussner:
http://www.eussner.net/artikel_2007-09-15_16-21-17.html
Südländer in the sense of the word means people from mediterranian southern countries (Länder Pl. of Land country).
But if you hear this word in the press: Muzzies are meant.
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Südländer means in nearly all cases of crime Moslems of Arab, Albanian or Turkish decent. This type of people are totally nuts. They don't care about theirself, their families or their furure. They are reacting totally irrational, like mad dogs.
Look at this case of the Rabbi. Before this mad dog attacked the Chabad Rabbi, he attacked other people with his knife, in other cases with fists.
The punishment for this was two weeks arrest in a special prison for younger persons. ::)
You can read the whole story on the website of Gudrun Eussner:
http://www.eussner.net/artikel_2007-09-15_16-21-17.html
Südländer in the sense of the word means people from mediterranian southern countries (Länder Pl. of Land country).
But if you hear this word in the press: Muzzies are meant.
Oh, thanks! O0
Do these events occur often in Germany?
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Do these events occur often in Germany?
if by "event" you mean "attacks especially on jews":
no, but that's only because most of the jews in germany do not openly show themselves (for instance they wear their kippas under baseballcaps)
you gotta be suicidal or a real toughguy to openly show jewish symbols in certain areas (especially big cities) in germany
but to make it clear again: it's not the average germans that would attack but the mohammedans that rule the streets here!
if by "event" you mean "attacks on non-mohammedans":
of cause! anyone not making place on the sidewalk and/or looking to the ground when meeting our new overlords is in danger of being attacked! this happens on a daily basis - mostly it's "only" a beating but knive-attacks (even deadly) occurr more and more often
judgments like this one we're discussing of cause give these people the totally wrong signal !!!
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Self defense?!
He was walking around with a knife!
Who does that?!?! ???
Nearly all Muslims in Germany have knifes, of course for self-defence ...
The press calls them Südländer, what is clearly offending to Greeks, Spains and Italians. in Greatbritain the press call them Asians.
If you search in google for Südländer + Messer (knife) you will be surprised:
http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&ned=de&q=messer%20s%C3%BCdl%C3%A4nder&sa=N&tab=nw
That's true Golden Pheasant, Die sind der letzte Dreck, absolut Musel Abschaum!
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Südländer means in nearly all cases of crime Moslems of Arab, Albanian or Turkish decent. This type of people are totally nuts. They don't care about theirself, their families or their furure. They are reacting totally irrational, like mad dogs.
Look at this case of the Rabbi. Before this mad dog attacked the Chabad Rabbi, he attacked other people with his knife, in other cases with fists.
The punishment for this was two weeks arrest in a special prison for younger persons. ::)
You can read the whole story on the website of Gudrun Eussner:
http://www.eussner.net/artikel_2007-09-15_16-21-17.html
Südländer in the sense of the word means people from mediterranian southern countries (Länder Pl. of Land country).
But if you hear this word in the press: Muzzies are meant.
Oh, thanks! O0
Do these events occur often in Germany?
Yes. There are two cases, that I remember now.
The first was the attack from an Arab Muslim in Berlin, who attacked an orthodox Jew with fists and spit on him.
And the second was the terrorization of the orthodox Jew Arie Tamm. He has over a long time a small store in Berlin. One day he became religious. From now on he sell only kosher products.
The Muslimes in the destrict identified him as a Jew and he has no quiet minute more in his life. They spit against the store windows, pissed against the store door and mocked all his customers and tried to blackmail him.
But to be honest, Tamm said, that some secular people from Turkey supported him (perhaps Alevites)
After two years he was finished. The police doesn't help him in a serious way.
He is now in Israel and goes to a Jeshiva.
http://www.berlin-judentum.de/news/2003/08/antisemitismus.htm [The Jewish website mocked our good Chaim, but this article is true]
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Thanks for the article, Golden Pheasant. This muSSlim should have his brains fried out O0
Give me a break, 3.5 years. >:(
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Südländer means in nearly all cases of crime Moslems of Arab, Albanian or Turkish decent. This type of people are totally nuts. They don't care about theirself, their families or their furure. They are reacting totally irrational, like mad dogs.
Look at this case of the Rabbi. Before this mad dog attacked the Chabad Rabbi, he attacked other people with his knife, in other cases with fists.
The punishment for this was two weeks arrest in a special prison for younger persons. ::)
You can read the whole story on the website of Gudrun Eussner:
http://www.eussner.net/artikel_2007-09-15_16-21-17.html
Südländer in the sense of the word means people from mediterranian southern countries (Länder Pl. of Land country).
But if you hear this word in the press: Muzzies are meant.
Oh, thanks! O0
Do these events occur often in Germany?
Yes. There are two cases, that I remember now.
The first was the attack from an Arab Muslim in Berlin, who attacked an orthodox Jew with fists and spit on him.
And the second was the terrorization of the orthodox Jew Arie Tamm. He has over a long time a small store in Berlin. One day he became religious. From now on he sell only kosher products.
The Muslimes in the destrict identified him as a Jew and he has no quiet minute more in his life. They spit against the store windows, pissed against the store door and mocked all his customers and tried to blackmail him.
But to be honest, Tamm said, that some secular people from Turkey supported him (perhaps Alevites)
After two years he was finished. The police doesn't help him in a serious way.
He is now in Israel and goes to a Jeshiva.
http://www.berlin-judentum.de/news/2003/08/antisemitismus.htm [The Jewish website mocked our good Chaim, but this article is true]
So were all of these acts also in self defense? :D
This is disgusting... but thanks for the info! O0
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http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3545499,00.html
3.5 years??
A slap on the wrist. NOT ENOUGH!
I agree, but what can you expect from them anyways? They will be eaten by muslims very soon if they do not do anything.
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3.5 years for attempting to murder a Jew? What do you get for attempting to kill an Arab? Life? If so, make sure it's well worth it! ;)
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What do you get for attempting to kill an Arab? Life?
i can't tell you how many years - but when yelling "i kill you filty arab!" during that stabbing it's considered a hatecrime and you're in serious trouble!
also you sure would get nationwide news-headlines for days/weeks, german gouverment-representives openly condeming your action, demonstrations by germans & arabs against racism, etc.
to give you a glimpse of how things are here nowadays:
a few weeks ago a non-mohammedan was attacked in cologne by two arabs (with criminal records) who tried to rob him. he was handicaped (something with his eyes) and during the beating het got from them he somehow managed to get a pocketknive out and stabed (blindly, because at that point his special-glasses where already slammed from his face) in the direction of the attackers - he stabbed one of the guys only once but deadly.
there where huge arab-demonstrations in that neighborhood for days demanding him to get prosecuted for murder! luckily that didn't happen - but what happened was that he and his family had to leave his hometown cologne forever and the dead attacker is now a martyr...
had the robbing-victim during that attack for once screamed an anti-arab-insult, he would be f***ed - even if it was clearly in selfdefence!
actually in germany it's simple as that:
if the victim is a mohammedan / the attacker is a german = racist/neonazi hatecrime
if the victim is a german / the attacker is a mohammedan = "normal" brawl
if the victim is a german / the attacker is a mohammedan, but the german defends himself = could easily be a racist/neonazi hatecrime if the german wins
i live in deutsch-la-la-land... ::)
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3.5 years for attempting to murder a Jew? What do you get for attempting to kill an Arab? Life? If so, make sure it's well worth it! ;)
In a SSocialist country for killing an Arab, you get a raise in salary do to the pro-muSSlim sympathy and immigrants.
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What do you get for attempting to kill an Arab? Life?
i can't tell you how many years - but when yelling "i kill you filty arab!" during that stabbing it's considered a hatecrime and you're in serious trouble!
also you sure would get nationwide news-headlines for days/weeks, german gouverment-representives openly condeming your action, demonstrations by germans & arabs against racism, etc.
to give you a glimpse of how things are here nowadays:
a few weeks ago a non-mohammedan was attacked in cologne by two arabs (with criminal records) who tried to rob him. he was handicaped (something with his eyes) and during the beating het got from them he somehow managed to get a pocketknive out and stabed (blindly, because at that point his special-glasses where already slammed from his face) in the direction of the attackers - he stabbed one of the guys only once but deadly.
there where huge arab-demonstrations in that neighborhood for days demanding him to get prosecuted for murder! luckily that didn't happen - but what happened was that he and his family had to leave his hometown cologne forever and the dead attacker is now a martyr...
had the robbing-victim during that attack for once screamed an anti-arab-insult, he would be f***ed - even if it was clearly in selfdefence!
actually in germany it's simple as that:
if the victim is a mohammedan / the attacker is a german = racist/neonazi hatecrime
if the victim is a german / the attacker is a mohammedan = "normal" brawl
if the victim is a german / the attacker is a mohammedan, but the german defends himself = could easily be a racist/neonazi hatecrime if the german wins
i live in deutsch-la-la-land... ::)
I know this story. It is true, but this is not only concerning ethnic Germans, but all other non-muslime people.
This case is the best example. The handicapped guy was from Russia.
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What do you get for attempting to kill an Arab? Life?
i can't tell you how many years - but when yelling "i kill you filty arab!" during that stabbing it's considered a hatecrime and you're in serious trouble!
also you sure would get nationwide news-headlines for days/weeks, german gouverment-representives openly condeming your action, demonstrations by germans & arabs against racism, etc.
to give you a glimpse of how things are here nowadays:
a few weeks ago a non-mohammedan was attacked in cologne by two arabs (with criminal records) who tried to rob him. he was handicaped (something with his eyes) and during the beating het got from them he somehow managed to get a pocketknive out and stabed (blindly, because at that point his special-glasses where already slammed from his face) in the direction of the attackers - he stabbed one of the guys only once but deadly.
there where huge arab-demonstrations in that neighborhood for days demanding him to get prosecuted for murder! luckily that didn't happen - but what happened was that he and his family had to leave his hometown cologne forever and the dead attacker is now a martyr...
had the robbing-victim during that attack for once screamed an anti-arab-insult, he would be f***ed - even if it was clearly in selfdefence!
actually in germany it's simple as that:
if the victim is a mohammedan / the attacker is a german = racist/neonazi hatecrime
if the victim is a german / the attacker is a mohammedan = "normal" brawl
if the victim is a german / the attacker is a mohammedan, but the german defends himself = could easily be a racist/neonazi hatecrime if the german wins
i live in deutsch-la-la-land... ::)
I know this story. It is true, but this is not only concerning ethnic Germans, but all other non-muslime people.
This case is the best example. The handicapped guy was from Russia.
It concerns all non-muSSlim people.
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there where huge arab-demonstrations in that neighborhood for days demanding him to get prosecuted for murder! luckily that didn't happen - but what happened was that he and his family had to leave his hometown cologne forever and the dead attacker is now a martyr...
had the robbing-victim during that attack for once screamed an anti-arab-insult, he would be f***ed - even if it was clearly in selfdefence!
I remember that too!
At first the leftist took part in those demonstrations too. They wanted to exploit this as a class issue - sort of: "The state doesn't care about the rights of the poorest of the poor".
But from day to day there were more and more radical muslims who didn't want to hear about social stuff. For them it was "oppression against islam".
Finally muslims brutally force the leftist away from their demonstrations. But some of those leftist didn't understand and tried to bring the socialists back. They talked about the "religious people" who are trying to hijack those demonstrations. But most leftist didn't want to go to hospital - so they stayed away.
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So that he can get out in 3 years and stab again.
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there where huge arab-demonstrations in that neighborhood for days demanding him to get prosecuted for murder! luckily that didn't happen - but what happened was that he and his family had to leave his hometown cologne forever and the dead attacker is now a martyr...
had the robbing-victim during that attack for once screamed an anti-arab-insult, he would be f***ed - even if it was clearly in selfdefence!
I remember that too!
At first the leftist took part in those demonstrations too. They wanted to exploit this as a class issue - sort of: "The state doesn't care about the rights of the poorest of the poor".
But from day to day there were more and more radical muslims who didn't want to hear about social stuff. For them it was "oppression against islam".
Finally muslims brutally force the leftist away from their demonstrations. But some of those leftist didn't understand and tried to bring the socialists back. They talked about the "religious people" who are trying to hijack those demonstrations. But most leftist didn't want to go to hospital - so they stayed away.
This story was great. ;D
The leftist tried to ally with the Muslims and the Muslims beat the up.
Somewhere on the leftwing website indymedia is an article from the shocked red rats ;D
But I doesn't know the link.
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there where huge arab-demonstrations in that neighborhood for days demanding him to get prosecuted for murder! luckily that didn't happen - but what happened was that he and his family had to leave his hometown cologne forever and the dead attacker is now a martyr...
had the robbing-victim during that attack for once screamed an anti-arab-insult, he would be f***ed - even if it was clearly in selfdefence!
I remember that too!
At first the leftist took part in those demonstrations too. They wanted to exploit this as a class issue - sort of: "The state doesn't care about the rights of the poorest of the poor".
But from day to day there were more and more radical muslims who didn't want to hear about social stuff. For them it was "oppression against islam".
Finally muslims brutally force the leftist away from their demonstrations. But some of those leftist didn't understand and tried to bring the socialists back. They talked about the "religious people" who are trying to hijack those demonstrations. But most leftist didn't want to go to hospital - so they stayed away.
This story was great. ;D
The leftist tried to ally with the Muslims and the Muslims beat the up.
Somewhere on the leftwing website indymedia is an article from the shocked red rats ;D
But I doesn't know the link.
Haha... thats very believable...
thats when happens when you try to be an ally to your enemy =P
great story! ;D
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Three comments here:
1: This piece of Islamic wildlife needs to be shot (or stabbed to death), now.
2: The Aryan Nazi judge and his entire family here need to be burned alive.
3: The rabbi, and all other Jews continuing to live in the Reich, need to be thrown away in an insane asylum for being so nuts.
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Three comments here:
1: This piece of Islamic wildlife needs to be shot (or stabbed to death), now.
2: The Aryan Nazi judge and his entire family here need to be burned alive.
3: The rabbi, and all other Jews continuing to live in the Reich, need to be thrown away in an insane asylum for being so nuts.
I agree with the first one.
Second... It was the juror's fault, in my opinion.
Third... Jews need to be in Germany so they have a voice there. So the people of Germany can see the real Jewish people, and they will know what a horrible thing the Holocaust was.
If there are no Jews in Germany... will there really be many people supportive of learning about the holocaust?
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2: The Aryan Nazi judge and his entire family here need to be burned alive.
Why his family?
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2: The Aryan Nazi judge and his entire family here need to be burned alive.
i don't think calling a typical liberal (who fears to make a "racist judgement") a nazi and wishing him and his family dead really helps our cause...
i wouldn't even go so far as saying the judge is really an evil person - he's probably just totally brainwashed by political-correctness
don't forget: "the mohammedans in germany today are the jews of the past" (this is what the liberals and even the jewish council teaches the germans all the time) - so please consider your point again...
3: The rabbi, and all other Jews continuing to live in the Reich, need to be thrown away in an insane asylum for being so nuts.
"reich ?!" you clearly have no clue at all what you're talking about...
with an attitude like this i'm afraid you're not part of the solution but instead part of the problem - imho we need to enlighten decent people (i'm talking about non-mohammedans of cause) instead of kicking them in the n*ts for wanting right but doing wrong out of nescience!
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Somewhere on the leftwing website indymedia is an article from the shocked red rats ;D
But I doesn't know the link.
http://de.indymedia.org/2008/01/206358.shtml
But I start to doubt the authenticity of this article.
I can't find anything else from "Hartwig Pruske" or the "Krefelder Präventionsrat gegen Rassismus und Gewalt".
On the other hand - no leftist has mentioned any doubts.
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Lewisit,
Are you really going to argue that the majority of Germans are just nice people who misunderstand the Nazi past and their history? If you really buy this, I feel sorry for you, and request that you bring this up to Chaim. I don't suspect that you will win the argument.
I already said that German Jews are nuts (and yeah, I do believe it that most of them consider Muslims to be like "Jews in the 1930s". Your point being?
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@c.f.
when it comes to average german people: please do not forget that of cause the nazi-government of the 3rd reich was german - but the people gladly helping in the holocaust were average people from nearly all of europe incl. but by far not limited to germans
so - the people of nearly every european country are still enemies? i cannot buy this - there you're right...
and btw: i'm not here to "win or lose" arguments - i'm here to connect to people regardless of their nation or faith who are willing to stand up against the new mohammedan-nazis (even when it's much more dangerous to confront these real threats that "fighting" the nazi-phantoms of the past that have been defeated & are a part of history)
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(even when it's much more dangerous to confront these real threats that "fighting" the nazi-phantoms of the past that have been defeated & are a part of history)
I don't suspect you will last long on our forum making such anti-JTF arguments. The very fact of this thread proves that your claim here is absolutely false.
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The attacker on Rabbi should be beaten with shoes till end. >:(
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The very fact of this thread proves that your claim here is absolutely false.
yes, this thread sure proves something about germany today (it's really mindbending so i understand why people not raised on that concept have such a hard time getting it...) - but not the rise of german neonazism...
i hope i can make things clear though this: here's a list "from good to bad" or "from victim to offender" so to say - whenever there's a fight/attack, a german court will nearly always be in favour of the one that comes first in that list:
1. colored & mohammedan
2. just colored
3. jewish
4. just white
5. white & rightwing
see: the case discussed in this thread is 1./3. so it was nearly considered a case of "selfdefense" - if it where 5./3. (something that doesn't happen here and g-d forbid ever will) the attacker would fortunately rott in jail forever
I don't suspect you will last long on our forum making such anti-JTF arguments.
if living in the present really is considered anti-JTF by most people here, i'll of cause go - but that has to be proven by more than one member please?
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The very fact of this thread proves that your claim here is absolutely false.
yes, this thread sure proves something about germany today (it's really mindbending so i understand why people not raised on that concept have such a hard time getting it...) - but not the rise of german neonazism...
i hope i can make things clear though this: here's a list "from good to bad" or "from victim to offender" so to say - whenever there's a fight/attack, a german court will nearly always be in favour of the one that comes first in that list:
1. colored & mohammedan
2. just colored
3. jewish
4. just white
5. white & rightwing
see: the case discussed in this thread is 1./3. so it was nearly considered a case of "selfdefense" - if it where 5./3. (something that doesn't happen here and g-d forbid ever will) the attacker would fortunately rott in jail forever
I don't suspect you will last long on our forum making such anti-JTF arguments.
if living in the present really is considered anti-JTF by most people here, i'll of cause go - but that has to be proven by more than one member please?
Are you nuts? Germany is right now the number one trade partner of Iran in the western world. Do you really believe that German courts would at all rule in favor of a jew? Germany is drek and must be boycotted.
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Are you nuts? Germany is right now the number one trade partner of Iran in the western world.
Do you really believe that German courts would at all rule in favor of a jew? Germany is drek and must be boycotted.
I think the USA is the number one trade partner of Saudia Arabia.
I'm not in favour of boycotting the USA.
The german courts might be biased against jews as most of rest of europe is.
Germany provides Israel with submarines that can fire nuclear rockets. Germany has given Israel second-strike capacity. No other european country did that.
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Germany is drek
if this is the official JTF-policy i do not understand why JTF is running an advertisment on the biggest german politcal-blog pi-news.net?
and also why chaim ben pesach addressed a placative statement to the members there - saying among other things that he believes that the mayority of europeans (and this includes germans) privately think the right way?
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if this is the official JTF-policy i do not understand why JTF is running an advertisment on the biggest german politcal-blog pi-news.net?
and also why chaim ben pesach addressed a placative statement to the members there - saying among other things that he believes that the mayority of europeans (and this includes germans) privately think the right way?
I think it is the official policy and the advertisment is there to attract the few good german people.
It is our responsibility to convince the jtf that it would be better to increase the number of good people instead of picking just those that are already there. After all: can you blame the people for having drek in their head, if all the media is pushing this antisemitic socialist and islamophilic propaganda, day after day after day?
I haven't heard chaim say, that the majority of europe privately think the right way. If he did, he is deceiving himself.
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Germany is drek
if this is the official JTF-policy i do not understand why JTF is running an advertisment on the biggest german politcal-blog pi-news.net?
and also why chaim ben pesach addressed a placative statement to the members there - saying among other things that he believes that the mayority of europeans (and this includes germans) privately think the right way?
After all I have seen in the last years, I have to agree to the statement "Germany is dreck".
We have to face reality. PI is not Germany.
It is not enough to want to be rid of the Muslimes.
Even if Chaim is right, that his view on the Muzzie issue is the private view of the majority (not the vast majority) of Germans, even this Germans are thinking at the same time:
that Israel is the greatest threat to world security
that the USA are an agressive evil force
that Socialism is better than free market economie
that welfare and social justice is more important than freedom
( Social envy is today in the form of so called "social justice" a part of the German constitution.)
The majority of Germans of today have no problem with fighting Islam at home and supporting Islam elsewhere. There are scissors in the head. ::)
What we want is more than to handle the Muzzie problem. I think one of the most important attributes of JTF is to see the world, like it really is. C.F. is doing it.
And it is something completely different, if a judge of the USA or Israel is doing something evil like this or a German. This is the teaching of the bible. If they are following in the same ways like their ancestors the curse from both evil deeds is upon them.
No fight against the Muzzie plague will have success, if Germany don't change completely. It is a punishment of God and only change can eventually remove it.
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From my observation the ladder of victimhood in Germany look more like this:
1)muslim and coloured
2)other coloured but not Christian or Jewish
3) Jewish person but only if member of "judenrat" or leftist establisment and G-d forbid the "zionists"
4)regular German Christian/Jewish burger
5)Ossie or German immigrant from Russia
6)people form eastern Europe except gipsies - - the germans are stil quite rascist but in new PC way: Poland is now ridiculed in german medias as backward religius homofobic country - it's the great step forward from being untermenshen ::)
of course the women are higher than man, leftwingers than rightwingers and homos than normal people exept for muslims who're always on top.
And for your remark about other countries helping entusiasticly in Holocast I won't take it from people who murdered six milions of my countrymen; I gues that Germany invaded, ocupied and ravaged Poland for five years becouse it was entusiasticly nazi country. ??? I hate this modern historic revisionism; German who voted Hitler and backed up the III Reichs's war machine till the end now are portraying themself as first victims of nazism and are trying to shift the blame for their war crimes. >:(
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Germany is drek
if this is the official JTF-policy i do not understand why JTF is running an advertisment on the biggest german politcal-blog pi-news.net?
and also why chaim ben pesach addressed a placative statement to the members there - saying among other things that he believes that the mayority of europeans (and this includes germans) privately think the right way?
That was not Chaim's idea, it was mine. I have suggested it because the ideology of PI is unique:
1. PI stands for a really free market economy
2. PI stands in the best traditions of the Christian culture and religion
3. PI is opposed to welfare
4. PI stands for family values.
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[From this it follows that:]
5. PI is genuine friendly to USA and Israel
6. PI never trivialized German crimes of WW2.
7. PI is against the Islamisation of Europe.
If you share this ideology - You are welcome
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It is a punishment of G-d and only change can eventually remove it.
So let's try to change the rest of the german people!
And the people in the other countries also.
After all, citizenship isn't an idiology.
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From my observation the ladder of victimhood in Germany look more like this:
1)muslim and coloured
2)other coloured but not Christian or Jewish
3) Jewish person but only if member of "judenrat" or leftist establisment and G-d forbid the "zionists"
4)regular German Christian/Jewish burger
5)Ossie or German immigrant from Russia
6)people form eastern Europe except gipsies - - the germans are stil quite rascist but in new PC way: Poland is now ridiculed in german medias as backward religius homofobic country - it's the great step forward from being untermenshen ::)
of course the women are higher than man, leftwingers than rightwingers and homos than normal people exept for muslims who're always on top.
And for your remark about other countries helping entusiasticly in Holocast I won't take it from people who murdered six milions of my countrymen; I gues that Germany invaded, ocupied and ravaged Poland for five years becouse it was entusiasticly nazi country. ??? I hate this modern historic revisionism; German who voted Hitler and backed up the III Reichs's war machine till the end now are portraying themself as first victims of nazism and are trying to shift the blame for their war crimes. >:(
True, I have noticed this point with the East European people. They, althrough they are hard workers and companies look for them, stand at the end of the list, if it comes to court and in the oppinion of the leftists.
I remember a immigration-discussion about this issue on TV. There were two leftwing politicians (one from Green party and the other from the socialist party) it came near to hatespeech, if they handled East European people, but they spoke very kind about the Muslims.
I think the leftists are opposed to them, because they vote generally so called "conservative".
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I'd like to say I was surprised at this, but I can't :(
the judicial systems of the West are a disgrace. it would be laughable if it were not so serious :(
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If you share this ideology - You are welcome
of cause i do - otherwise i wouldn't have come here...
all i'm asking is not to be unfair to me or my countrymen - there are alot of them to be won in the fight against islamo-fascism, so pls don't put them off by imprudent remarks...
No fight against the Muzzie plague will have success, if Germany don't change completely.
i totally agree - let's work on this together :)
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Germany is drek
if this is the official JTF-policy i do not understand why JTF is running an advertisment on the biggest german politcal-blog pi-news.net?
and also why chaim ben pesach addressed a placative statement to the members there - saying among other things that he believes that the mayority of europeans (and this includes germans) privately think the right way?
After all I have seen in the last years, I have to agree to the statement "Germany is dreck".
We have to face reality. PI is not Germany.
It is not enough to want to be rid of the Muslimes.
Even if Chaim is right, that his view on the Muzzie issue is the private view of the majority (not the vast majority) of Germans, even this Germans are thinking at the same time:
that Israel is the greatest threat to world security
that the USA are an agressive evil force
that Socialism is better than free market economie
that welfare and social justice is more important than freedom
( Social envy is today in the form of so called "social justice" a part of the German constitution.)
The majority of Germans of today have no problem with fighting Islam at home and supporting Islam elsewhere. There are scissors in the head. ::)
What we want is more than to handle the Muzzie problem. I think one of the most important attributes of JTF is to see the world, like it really is. C.F. is doing it.
And it is something completely different, if a judge of the USA or Israel is doing something evil like this or a German. This is the teaching of the bible. If they are following in the same ways like their ancestors the curse from both evil deeds is upon them.
No fight against the Muzzie plague will have success, if Germany don't change completely. It is a punishment of G-d and only change can eventually remove it.
Uli I have to agree with you on this. Most Germans are pro muzzie, it's a fact.
You know I live and study in Germany and this is the people most Germans hate privately or otherwise.
1. Poles 2. Americans 3. Russians 4. Jews. Most Germans like muslim turks, this is a fact.
Except for the Germans that live in areas heavily populated by those inbreds.
Most Germans feel sympathy for PLO/Hamas Arab Muslim Nazi ragheads.
When asked "where should the people that you have slaughtered go" they say "they should stay
in Israel and live in peace with muslim nazis"
Most Germans would NOT fight Islamonazism even if Germany were attacked.
Germany is the number one advocate of nazi turkish EU membership.
Germany played a major role in NATO illegal bombing and occupation of Serbia.
May NATO die of AIDS for that.
Most Germans are ignorant and pro muzzie, if a mooz and non mooz fight, the judge is
most likely going to rule against the non mooz.
But aren't most EU countries like this?
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I don't agree, that most Germans love Muzzies as their neighbours, but you are right, that most Germans don't like Israel and the USA. This is a fact. Gerhard Schröder won one of his elections with stabbing George Bush in the back after he has promised him his solidarity.
China and Russia have the same problem. No Muzzies at home, but elswhere it is ok.
Islamiscancer, it is really sad to see, like people love those, who are doing daily evil to them and hate those, who have done so many good things to them althrough they didn't deserve this good. :'(
I could list all the good things America did, but we know them already.
Althrough I am thinking about it, I can't remember one good thing, which Muslimes contributed to German society.
Sick peoples.
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Exelent posts both GF and Islam is cancer; when you accept that this is punishment from G-d, you start to see that both socialisms the red and brown one are equally drugging us into the drekk. The Germany is only most clear example what happens when one socialism simply replace the other and blame all foult on others; the nazis may hate comies and viceversa buth both hate Jews and true Christians. They're other countries which suffer from (self)hate mixed with arrogance and ignorance but it's hardly the comfort. That case again shows the stupidity of so called "hate crimes" they're simply politic articles to bash the dissidents I preffer harsh and just punishment for all crimes.
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I don't agree, that most Germans love Muzzies as their neighbours, but you are right, that most Germans don't like Israel and the USA. This is a fact. Gerhard Schröder won one of his elections with stabbing George Bush in the back after he has promised him his solidarity.
China and Russia have the same problem. No Muzzies at home, but elswhere it is ok.
Islamiscancer, it is really sad to see, like people love those, who are doing daily evil to them and hate those, who have done so many good things to them althrough they didn't deserve this good. :'(
I could list all the good things America did, but we know them already.
Althrough I am thinking about it, I can't remember one good thing, which Muslimes contributed to German society.
Sick peoples.
GP, America is not a righteous country neither is Russia or China. They all are whores, America is a whore too.
They don't fight Islam, they pursue their own interests just like others.
Whenever they claim they are fighting Islam in Iraq tell them to shut up because Iraq had good dictator that didn't allow anybody in and out now that they are free they will become a democratic nation and improve their muzzie economy. And there are millions of refugees in Europe because of those scumbags in the white house. If they fought Islam they'd attack Saudi Arabia not Iraq those stupid morons. Iraq and Iran used to hate each other but now they are friends thanks to America.
I don't hate their general populations because most of them don't give a damn about politics, it's the muslim bolshevik American government that I hate.
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Germany as a nation has always been exceptionally pro-Islam. In WWI, when the Kaiser set out to crush the Serbs, he enlisted the help of the Nazi Ottomans, who were a key member of the Triple Alliance. The supposedly "Christian" nation of Deutschland approved when two million Armenians were martyred for their faith by the Muslim Nazi Turks. In WWII, Adolf Hitler (ys"vz) personally befriended the Bosnians and the Fagestinian Israeli Muslim Nazis; the former joined the SS in droves (the latter would have as well save for the fact the British were able to prevent them from doing so).
Today, Das Reich is Iran's biggest ally outside of Russia and China, and is quick to oppose any sanctions against it at all in the U.N. Likewise, modern-day Nazi German is quick to support any and all anti-Israel resolutions in the United Nazis. Do individual Germans personally like all Muslims? I don't know, but they certainly would side with a Muslim over a Jew any day.