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Title: Under what circumstances can the use of nuclear weapon can be justified ?
Post by: Dexter on October 31, 2007, 09:20:35 AM
In your opinion, under what circumstances can the use of nuclear weapon can be justified ?
I should ask Chaim this question either...
Title: Re: Under what circumstances can the use of nuclear weapon can be justified ?
Post by: Yisrael on October 31, 2007, 09:22:30 AM
It is justified to save a good people, such as the Israeli people.
Title: Re: Under what circumstances can the use of nuclear weapon can be justified ?
Post by: newman on October 31, 2007, 09:44:39 AM
Using them on muslims is not only justified but highly desirable!
Title: Re: Under what circumstances can the use of nuclear weapon can be justified ?
Post by: Kiwi on October 31, 2007, 09:51:36 AM
When all other opinions are used and failed. And the lesser of two evils are justified.
Title: Re: Under what circumstances can the use of nuclear weapon can be justified ?
Post by: Dr. Dan on October 31, 2007, 10:44:37 AM
If it is going to save more lives (I know that sounds odd), by ending a war, then it's good.
Title: Re: Under what circumstances can the use of nuclear weapon can be justified ?
Post by: newman on October 31, 2007, 10:50:29 AM
If it is going to save more lives (I know that sounds odd), by ending a war, then it's good.

It's not about saving any old lives. It's about saving good peoples' lives and terminating bad peoples' lives.
Title: Re: Under what circumstances can the use of nuclear weapon can be justified ?
Post by: Dr. Dan on October 31, 2007, 01:07:00 PM
If it is going to save more lives (I know that sounds odd), by ending a war, then it's good.

It's not about saving any old lives. It's about saving good peoples' lives and terminating bad peoples' lives.

what i'm referring to are AMerican soldiers for example...If more of their lives can be saved by shortening a war by dropping the bomb and ending that war, then i'm for it.  Well, that's one reason..
Title: Re: Under what circumstances can the use of nuclear weapon can be justified ?
Post by: kellymaureen on October 31, 2007, 01:16:04 PM
What if muslims manage to set off a nuke in an American or Israeli city...and its not totally impossible it could happen....I think that warrents a nuclear response....in one the places muslims hold common.
Title: Re: Under what circumstances can the use of nuclear weapon can be justified ?
Post by: New Yorker on October 31, 2007, 01:19:32 PM
What if muslims manage to set off a nuke in an American or Israeli city...and its not totally impossible it could happen....I think that warrents a nuclear response....in one the places muslims hold common.

If that happens, arabia, and Islam get erased from the planet. Our men will have to wear radiation suits when they drive to the oil rigs to operate them in the unpopulated wasteland that was once the domain of the muslims.
Title: Re: Under what circumstances can the use of nuclear weapon can be justified ?
Post by: Wayne Jude on October 31, 2007, 01:33:24 PM
mecca would be a great target! ;)
Title: Re: Under what circumstances can the use of nuclear weapon can be justified ?
Post by: kellymaureen on October 31, 2007, 01:34:55 PM
Mecca should have gone BOOM sept 12/01
Title: Re: Under what circumstances can the use of nuclear weapon can be justified ?
Post by: Wayne Jude on October 31, 2007, 01:39:09 PM
Kelly shame on George W Bush for not doing that! >:( O0
Title: Re: Under what circumstances can the use of nuclear weapon can be justified ?
Post by: Dexter on October 31, 2007, 01:41:03 PM
Kelly shame on George W Bush for not doing that! >:( O0
Why would he ? He wants oil.
Title: Re: Under what circumstances can the use of nuclear weapon can be justified ?
Post by: newman on October 31, 2007, 01:42:46 PM
Mecca should have gone BOOM sept 12/01

In the 1930s and 40s The Japanese were radical, militant haters of the west who planned to conquer the USA. Their religious beliefs were that the 'gods' watched over Japan and would never allow it to be invaded or destroyed. When the A-bombs went off over Hiroshima and Nagasaki their beliefs were shattered. Now they are peaceful, productive world citizens.

Muslims are now radical, militant haters of the west who plan to conquer the USA. Their religious beliefs are that  'G-d' watches over mecca and would never allow it to be invaded or destroyed. We must shatter their beliefs as we did with the Japanese 62 years ago.
Title: Re: Under what circumstances can the use of nuclear weapon can be justified ?
Post by: kellymaureen on October 31, 2007, 01:43:49 PM
Kelly shame on George W Bush for not doing that! >:( O0

Yes instead we are out in iraq and afcrapistan searching for the elusive muslim "hearts and minds" and our guys are losing their lives needlessly.  We are babysitting 2 factions of muslim who want nothing more than to kill each other...let them have at it.

Seeing mecca turned into a smoldering sheet of glass may  turn some muslims away from islam, after seeing that their fake moon G-d did nothing to save their number 1 'holiest' site....because that is one belief common among all muslims, that mecca can never be destroyed.
Title: Re: Under what circumstances can the use of nuclear weapon can be justified ?
Post by: kellymaureen on October 31, 2007, 01:45:03 PM
Mecca should have gone BOOM sept 12/01

In the 1930s and 40s The Japanese were radical, militant haters of the west who planned to conquer the USA. Their religious beliefs were that the 'gods' watched over Japan and would never allow it to be invaded or destroyed. When the A-bombs went off over Hiroshima and Nagasaki their beliefs were shattered. Now they are peaceful, productive world citizens.

Muslims are now radical, militant haters of the west who plan to conquer the USA. Their religious beliefs are that  'G-d' watches over mecca and would never allow it to be invaded or destroyed. We must shatter their beliefs as we did with the Japanese 62 years ago.

Ha ha you beat me to it:P
Great minds really do think alike ;)
Title: Re: Under what circumstances can the use of nuclear weapon can be justified ?
Post by: Wayne Jude on October 31, 2007, 01:45:16 PM
I Can't stand him and I wish I could say what I really think if him ,but my job prevents that from being such wise Idea! ;)
Title: Re: Under what circumstances can the use of nuclear weapon can be justified ?
Post by: newman on October 31, 2007, 01:47:11 PM
Mecca should have gone BOOM sept 12/01

In the 1930s and 40s The Japanese were radical, militant haters of the west who planned to conquer the USA. Their religious beliefs were that the 'gods' watched over Japan and would never allow it to be invaded or destroyed. When the A-bombs went off over Hiroshima and Nagasaki their beliefs were shattered. Now they are peaceful, productive world citizens.

Muslims are now radical, militant haters of the west who plan to conquer the USA. Their religious beliefs are that  'G-d' watches over mecca and would never allow it to be invaded or destroyed. We must shatter their beliefs as we did with the Japanese 62 years ago.

Ha ha you beat me to it:P
Great minds really do think alike ;)

Of coarse. :)

I really do admire you for your 'mind', y'know. ;)
Title: Re: Under what circumstances can the use of nuclear weapon can be justified ?
Post by: kellymaureen on October 31, 2007, 01:48:04 PM
Mecca should have gone BOOM sept 12/01

In the 1930s and 40s The Japanese were radical, militant haters of the west who planned to conquer the USA. Their religious beliefs were that the 'gods' watched over Japan and would never allow it to be invaded or destroyed. When the A-bombs went off over Hiroshima and Nagasaki their beliefs were shattered. Now they are peaceful, productive world citizens.

Muslims are now radical, militant haters of the west who plan to conquer the USA. Their religious beliefs are that  'G-d' watches over mecca and would never allow it to be invaded or destroyed. We must shatter their beliefs as we did with the Japanese 62 years ago.

Ha ha you beat me to it:P
Great minds really do think alike ;)

Of coarse. :)

I really do admire you for your 'mind', y'know. ;)

Absolutely I knew that ;)
Title: Re: Under what circumstances can the use of nuclear weapon can be justified ?
Post by: Wayne Jude on October 31, 2007, 01:48:15 PM
You both hit that and thats weird! ;)
Title: Re: Under what circumstances can the use of nuclear weapon can be justified ?
Post by: Merkava on October 31, 2007, 02:12:13 PM
To save non muslim lives
Title: Re: Under what circumstances can the use of nuclear weapon can be justified ?
Post by: newman on October 31, 2007, 02:13:35 PM
To save non muslim lives

And/or end muslim ones.
Title: Re: Under what circumstances can the use of nuclear weapon can be justified ?
Post by: Wayne Jude on October 31, 2007, 02:15:42 PM
The same right!LOL ;) :) O0
Title: Re: Under what circumstances can the use of nuclear weapon can be justified ?
Post by: Kiwi on November 01, 2007, 04:38:21 AM
If it is going to save more lives (I know that sounds odd), by ending a war, then it's good.

100% agree it worked in Japan
Title: Re: Under what circumstances can the use of nuclear weapon can be justified ?
Post by: Ulli on November 01, 2007, 04:47:50 AM
I think it would be justified in an act of self defense.

I have the oppinion, that it is justified to use the nuclear weapons to bomb the oil-fields of Saudi-Arabia and Iran right now, because they use the oil-money to cause great chaos all over the world. :)
Title: Re: Under what circumstances can the use of nuclear weapon can be justified ?
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on November 01, 2007, 05:41:13 AM
Nuclear weapons are undesirable, and should not be used, but if a nation has no other way to survive, I'd think about it.
In no way they must be used to kill just for the sake of killing even evil people. But in case Israel is really in danger, they could use a nuclear weapon to stop anihilation (In case they have that weapons- I am noone to say whether Israel has or hasn't nuclear bombs, it would be a lack of respect, since Israelis have said it is a secret)
Title: Re: Under what circumstances can the use of nuclear weapon can be justified ?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on November 01, 2007, 06:53:49 AM
I don't like Nukes!!!
Start of with one damn nuke, and 5 mins later all humanity is history! sigh.

I mean, if nukes did not carry radiation, and use of these weapons did not receive counter-nuclear war, then YES!

But lets say Mecca is nuked, radiation would fall on Israel :'(

On the other hand, the new russian "Father of all bombs" is a great means. Kill LOTS of baddies, and receive NO radiation-and possibly no international intervention (possibly). Too bad it's a russian weapon  :'( :'( (scared)
Title: Re: Under what circumstances can the use of nuclear weapon can be justified ?
Post by: newman on November 01, 2007, 07:05:10 AM
I don't like Nukes!!!
Start of with one damn nuke, and 5 mins later all humanity is history! sigh.

I mean, if nukes did not carry radiation, and use of these weapons did not receive counter-nuclear war, then YES!

But lets say Mecca is nuked, radiation would fall on Israel :'(

On the other hand, the new russian "Father of all bombs" is a great means. Kill LOTS of baddies, and receive NO radiation-and possibly no international intervention (possibly). Too bad it's a russian weapon  :'( :'( (scared)

Fuel/air bombs are good too.
Title: Re: Under what circumstances can the use of nuclear weapon can be justified ?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on November 01, 2007, 07:24:05 AM
I don't like Nukes!!!
Start of with one damn nuke, and 5 mins later all humanity is history! sigh.

I mean, if nukes did not carry radiation, and use of these weapons did not receive counter-nuclear war, then YES!

But lets say Mecca is nuked, radiation would fall on Israel :'(

On the other hand, the new russian "Father of all bombs" is a great means. Kill LOTS of baddies, and receive NO radiation-and possibly no international intervention (possibly). Too bad it's a russian weapon  :'( :'( (scared)

Fuel/air bombs are good too.

yea!
I heard some rumours that these weapons were used on the Chezen rebels?
Title: Re: Under what circumstances can the use of nuclear weapon can be justified ?
Post by: newman on November 01, 2007, 07:27:22 AM
I don't like Nukes!!!
Start of with one damn nuke, and 5 mins later all humanity is history! sigh.

I mean, if nukes did not carry radiation, and use of these weapons did not receive counter-nuclear war, then YES!

But lets say Mecca is nuked, radiation would fall on Israel :'(

On the other hand, the new russian "Father of all bombs" is a great means. Kill LOTS of baddies, and receive NO radiation-and possibly no international intervention (possibly). Too bad it's a russian weapon  :'( :'( (scared)

Fuel/air bombs are good too.

yea!
I heard some rumours that these weapons were used on the Chezen rebels?

Anything they use on muslims is A- OK by me. :)
Title: Re: Under what circumstances can the use of nuclear weapon can be justified ?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on November 01, 2007, 07:32:58 AM
I don't like Nukes!!!
Start of with one damn nuke, and 5 mins later all humanity is history! sigh.

I mean, if nukes did not carry radiation, and use of these weapons did not receive counter-nuclear war, then YES!

But lets say Mecca is nuked, radiation would fall on Israel :'(

On the other hand, the new russian "Father of all bombs" is a great means. Kill LOTS of baddies, and receive NO radiation-and possibly no international intervention (possibly). Too bad it's a russian weapon  :'( :'( (scared)

Fuel/air bombs are good too.

yea!
I heard some rumours that these weapons were used on the Chezen rebels?

Anything they use on muslims is A- OK by me. :)

I quite like the insurgency in Chechnia!

Russians killing muslims, and muslims killing russians  ;)

There are disadvantages ofcourse for us! :-\
Title: Re: Under what circumstances can the use of nuclear weapon can be justified ?
Post by: newman on November 01, 2007, 07:36:28 AM
I don't like Nukes!!!
Start of with one damn nuke, and 5 mins later all humanity is history! sigh.

I mean, if nukes did not carry radiation, and use of these weapons did not receive counter-nuclear war, then YES!

But lets say Mecca is nuked, radiation would fall on Israel :'(

On the other hand, the new russian "Father of all bombs" is a great means. Kill LOTS of baddies, and receive NO radiation-and possibly no international intervention (possibly). Too bad it's a russian weapon  :'( :'( (scared)

Fuel/air bombs are good too.

yea!
I heard some rumours that these weapons were used on the Chezen rebels?

Anything they use on muslims is A- OK by me. :)

I quite like the insurgency in Chechnia!

Russians killing muslims, and muslims killing russians  ;)

There are disadvantages ofcourse for us! :-\

When it's nazi, Jew-hater versus nazi Jew-hater let the slaughter begin and enjoy the show!
Title: Re: Under what circumstances can the use of nuclear weapon can be justified ?
Post by: Ultra Requete on November 01, 2007, 11:42:43 AM
Glasisng out the MECCA is great idea; it's the only place on earth with 0% friendly casulties risk. ;) O0
You can use neutron bombs to clear the oil fields and pre islamic heritage/tourist atractions sites; they kill muzies and leave intact infrastruckture with almost none radiation or fallout. ;D
Title: Re: Under what circumstances can the use of nuclear weapon can be justified ?
Post by: kellymaureen on November 01, 2007, 12:27:03 PM
Glasisng out the MECCA is great idea; it's the only place on earth with 0% friendly casulties risk. ;) O0
You can use neutron bombs to clear the oil fields and pre islamic heritage/tourist atractions sites; they kill muzies and leave intact infrastruckture with almost none radiation or fallout. ;D

Ultra why arent you running this world, youre very smart! :)
Title: Re: Under what circumstances can the use of nuclear weapon can be justified ?
Post by: Ultra Requete on November 01, 2007, 12:44:45 PM
A few (dozen) thousands Religion of Piece terrorism victims less I was once peacfull like Raul; liberal two state solutioner;  :-[ Now I belive in: Kill them all and let the alla the snake knows his own in islamic paradise (hell); killing muslims is self defence not murder and frankly speaking nuclear bomb is just like any other weapons we shoud used them when needed becouse our enemies won't hesitate to use them against us. :o Sometimes I do fear myself. ;) O0