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Title: "All Jews should commit mass suicide." - Mohandas Ghandi - ?!?!!!!
Post by: Ari Ben-Canaan on June 01, 2010, 03:41:09 AM
I have seen this quote in quite a few places on the internet now.  I remember a few JTF shows ago Chaim talked about Ghandi being an anti-Semite, recently I have done some research of my own.  I am somewhat shocked at the results!

http://mohandasgandhi.wordpress.com/2009/05/23/all-jews-should-commit-mass-suicide-mohandas-gandhi-gandhis-final-solution-1940/

^I came across this website in particular, are the things here said about Ghandi true?  I am still researching myself.  If anyone can verify this site is true, or debunk it, please let me know.

[I see Ghandi used the word "Kaffir" to describe blacks, I see that S. Africans borrow the term from Islam to describe blacks as well, although Ghandi was a Hindu, I guess that explains why he calls blacks Kaffir then.]
Title: Re: "All Jews should commit mass suicide." - Mohandas Ghandi - ?!?!!!!
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on June 01, 2010, 04:03:16 AM
I have read the letter/speech this quote was taken from.  I will paraphrase, but indeed, he suggested that the Jews line up and offer to together jump into the sea to drown unless the british give them independence, or something nutty like that.   He was trying to discourage zionists from using violence for self-defence and national determination and said that instead they should be willing to die rather than fight including all jumping into the sea in one massive swoop.
Title: Re: "All Jews should commit mass suicide." - Mohandas Ghandi - ?!?!!!!
Post by: Ari Ben-Canaan on June 01, 2010, 06:04:20 AM
I have read the letter/speech this quote was taken from.  I will paraphrase, but indeed, he suggested that the Jews line up and offer to together jump into the sea to drown unless the british give them independence, or something nutty like that.   He was trying to discourage zionists from using violence for self-defence and national determination and said that instead they should be willing to die rather than fight including all jumping into the sea in one massive swoop.

And he said this after he served in the military himself?

I read now that Ghandi corresponded with Hitler [YSV], and called him a friend, and supported him??  How did he feel about HaShoah?!!!
Title: Re: "All Jews should commit mass suicide." - Mohandas Ghandi - ?!?!!!!
Post by: Ithaca-37 on June 01, 2010, 06:27:42 AM
Several years ago, I read from what seemed like a reliable source that Gandhi suggested that European Jews in WWII should have committed mass suicide in order to demonstrate their moral superiority over the Nazis.

Gandhi was a complex character.  For instance, while he railed against the maltreatment of the 'Untouchable' caste in India, Gandhi never repudiated India's caste system.  Churchill (speaking of complex characters) once said something like this about Gandhi (paraphrasing here, as I don't remember the exact wording):  'He seeks to replace the alleged excesses of our colonialism with very real excesses that will inevitably occur with home rule.'

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Title: Re: "All Jews should commit mass suicide." - Mohandas Ghandi - ?!?!!!!
Post by: Moshe92 on June 01, 2010, 06:40:42 AM
Ghandi sure was an enemy of the Jews. He was also a traitor to the Hindus since he supported the Muslims.
Title: Re: "All Jews should commit mass suicide." - Mohandas Ghandi - ?!?!!!!
Post by: syyuge on June 01, 2010, 11:34:46 PM
Unfortunately Gandhiji was encircled and worked mostly with Muslamic merchants and Missionaries theologians like Deenbandhu Andrews. He attempted to make a lot of theological studies with them. The consequences were obviously going to be disastrous and he was never to get any righteous and original viewpoint from the Jews. I very much doubt that in his whole lifetime he could have met or talked any righteous Jew.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Freer_Andrews

http://www.gandhi-manibhavan.org/gandhicomesalive/comesalive_associates_southafrica.htm
Title: Re: "All Jews should commit mass suicide." - Mohandas Ghandi - ?!?!!!!
Post by: Ari Ben-Canaan on June 01, 2010, 11:59:27 PM
Unfortunately Gandhiji was encircled and worked mostly with Muslamic merchants and Missionaries theologians like Deenbandhu Andrews. He attempted to make a lot of theological studies with them. The consequences were obviously going to be disastrous and he was never to get any righteous and original viewpoint from the Jews. I very much doubt that in his whole lifetime he could have met or talked any righteous Jew.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Freer_Andrews

http://www.gandhi-manibhavan.org/gandhicomesalive/comesalive_associates_southafrica.htm

I have recently now seen his views about Islam.  I have a feeling he was fed a lot of taqqiya and kitman, and based his views upon this.  How could Gandhi look past 80 million+ Hindus being slaughtered by Islam?  Islam should never have even existed in India!  I have never read the entire Bhagavad Gita, but I have had it explained to me; how could Gandhi be so opposed to violence [apparently only some of the time] when this book seems to prescribe violence if violence is called for in a righteous way?  I guess my answer to my question is that he was a stupid hypocritical hatemonger fool who was put on a platter by other stupid hypocritical hatemonger fools.  For shame what many schools teach about this monster.

Its a shame he never dialogued with righteous Rabbis or Torah scholars, or if he did that it did not affect his views of the world.
Title: Re: "All Jews should commit mass suicide." - Mohandas Ghandi - ?!?!!!!
Post by: IsraelForever on June 02, 2010, 12:04:45 AM
I will paraphrase, but indeed, he suggested that the Jews line up and offer to together jump into the sea to drown unless the british give them independence, or something nutty like that.   
So, in other words, he was for non-violence unless it was Jews committing violence against themselves. 

I've got a better idea:  Instead, let the Jews wipe out those who intend to harm them. 

And not think twice about it, either!
Title: Re: "All Jews should commit mass suicide." - Mohandas Ghandi - ?!?!!!!
Post by: Ari Ben-Canaan on June 02, 2010, 12:21:43 AM
I will paraphrase, but indeed, he suggested that the Jews line up and offer to together jump into the sea to drown unless the british give them independence, or something nutty like that.   
So, in other words, he was for non-violence unless it was Jews committing violence against themselves. 

I've got a better idea:  Instead, let the Jews wipe out those who intend to harm them. 

And not think twice about it, either!

From my recent studies he admitted beating his own wife in an autobiography.

He recruited soldiers for the British and served in at least the Boer War himself.

And later when he was against the British he said, "If we had the atom bomb, we would have used it against the British."

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No wonder he liked Islam, he was a dialectic deceiver just like Mohamed [praising the "Children of Israel"* while advocating and participating in genocide against "Jews"].
*Which I have had explained to me that Islam does not see Jews as being descended from Israel, Israel's children were all Muslims.
Title: Re: "All Jews should commit mass suicide." - Mohandas Ghandi - ?!?!!!!
Post by: Rightist2 on June 02, 2010, 12:57:11 AM
None of this should be surprising. Only Indian leftists sing the praises of this despicable man. Peaceful passive resistance in the face of tyranny is for fools. By showing the Hindus to be weak in the face of colonial brutality and restraining them he emboldened the REAL enemy of the Hindus - the muslim hordes. They all knew India would be independent eventually but the muslims sat back and seized their chance when they saw Hindu weakness.

 Israel wouldnt have gained its independence if Irgun and other resistance movements hadnt slapped back the British (who at that time were bending over backwards to please the Arabs and restrict Jewish immigration to Israel and stop its founding).
The only reason he rushed to India from South Africa was to ensure the muslims were able to grab 1/3 of India. He also wanted to push India with the non-aligned (Communist apologist) bloc. When Right-wing Hindus protested against this in the 70's they were interned under State of the Emergency powers.

Mohandas K Ghandhi was assassinated by Right-wing Hindus for a good reason. Up to this day groups like the VHP and RSS cant stand the man. Leftist Indian media is always attacking RSS for carrying out the assassination.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2SEQQd9gek VHP leader Praveen Togadia slams Gandhi

Title: Re: "All Jews should commit mass suicide." - Mohandas Ghandi - ?!?!!!!
Post by: Ari Ben-Canaan on June 02, 2010, 01:56:10 AM
None of this should be surprising. Only Indian leftists sing the praises of this despicable man. Peaceful passive resistance in the face of tyranny is for fools. By showing the Hindus to be weak in the face of colonial brutality and restraining them he emboldened the REAL enemy of the Hindus - the muslim hordes. They all knew India would be independent eventually but the muslims sat back and seized their chance when they saw Hindu weakness.

 Israel wouldnt have gained its independence if Irgun and other resistance movements hadnt slapped back the British (who at that time were bending over backwards to please the Arabs and restrict Jewish immigration to Israel and stop its founding).
The only reason he rushed to India from South Africa was to ensure the muslims were able to grab 1/3 of India. He also wanted to push India with the non-aligned (Communist apologist) bloc. When Right-wing Hindus protested against this in the 70's they were interned under State of the Emergency powers.

Mohandas K Ghandhi was assassinated by Right-wing Hindus for a good reason. Up to this day groups like the VHP and RSS cant stand the man. Leftist Indian media is always attacking RSS for carrying out the assassination.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2SEQQd9gek VHP leader Praveen Togadia slams Gandhi



Good to see the truth aboug Gandhi.  Glad to see many Hindus oppose him.
Title: Re: "All Jews should commit mass suicide." - Mohandas Ghandi - ?!?!!!!
Post by: syyuge on June 02, 2010, 07:41:37 AM
Gandhi eventually turned out to be a king of tragedy.


His nation was temporarily broken but in a fiercest manner:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partition_of_India


His eldest son converted to muslam.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harilal_Gandhi

http://www.hvk.org/articles/0403/196.html


His Eurocommunist followers forgot him for ever and enjoyed throughout their lives.
Title: Re: "All Jews should commit mass suicide." - Mohandas Ghandi - ?!?!!!!
Post by: Debbie Shafer on June 02, 2010, 10:08:08 AM
I have never heard such evil. "All Jews should commit suicide." Keep in mind the attacks in the next months will be extreme!
Title: Re: "All Jews should commit mass suicide." - Mohandas Ghandi - ?!?!!!!
Post by: ✡ Hindu Zionist ॐ on June 02, 2010, 12:38:12 PM
Gandhi's peace theory = Bend over in front of Muslims, Nazis and Communists.

Gandhi favored getting allied with the Germans cause they were against British that time. But Veer Savarkar asked Hindus to join British Army. While Savarkar was being termed as traitor for this by the Socialists. His idea was only to Hinduize British Army. This is actually a peaceful way of dealing with enemy, Unlike Gandhi under his fake garb of peace, would ally himself with barbaric Nazis.

All Hindu Nationalist organisations denounce Gandhi at every opportunity. G-d bless Nathuram Godse.
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Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on June 02, 2010, 12:42:32 PM
Gandhi was a real fruitcake.
Title: Re: "All Jews should commit mass suicide." - Mohandas Ghandi - ?!?!!!!
Post by: TruthSpreader on June 02, 2010, 02:03:54 PM
Gandhi was an anti-semite and he wasn't a friend of his fellow Hindus either. He is burning in hell for this.