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Title says all...
http://www.scribd.com/doc/24548528/The-Kingdom-of-Serbia-Report-Upon-the-Atrocities-Committed-by-the-Austro-Hungarian-Army-During-the-First-Invasion-of-Serbia-1916-Rodolphe-Arc
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http://www.scribd.com/doc/33141763/Serbian-Folk-Songs-Fairy-Tales-and-Proverbes-1916-Maximilian-August-Mugge
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http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SUNHJGS7
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lC5HyJcQAkk
Na slican nacin se vrsi tvorba reci na hebrejskom ovo je jos jedna povezanost srba sa biblijom i Bogom kao i sa jevrejima!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2UdVl-VX48&feature=grec_index
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http://www.mediafire.com/?lmmmwmxzjom
Biblija prevod direktno sa hebrejskog a ko hoce moze da je kupi od izdavaca metafizike cena 800 din tiras 1000 ako nije nestalo!
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http://www.scribd.com/doc/25303871/Strane-Obavestajne-Sluzbe-vs-Srbija#
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http://www.archive.org/stream/englishwomanserg00sanduoft/englishwomanserg00sanduoft_djvu.txt
Flora Sanders, an Englishwoman in her forties fought in the trenches with the Serbian army during WW I. Awarded Serbia's highest military decoration, the Kara George Star
An English woman-sergeant in the Serbian Army.Flora Sanders
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MASONSKA SRBIJA
http://www.mediafire.com/?g6duf00cdab8tl6
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttrAJtu4v34&feature=recentf
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http://www.novinar.de/2010/12/27/u-katolike-preslo-36000-srba.html#more-16560
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http://www.maticasrpska.org.rs/index-eng.html#srbija
:israel: :serbia:
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Nazalost ovo nema na engleskom ali ovaj dokument je skoro nemoguce naci(sistematski je unistavano) ali cudni su putevi gospodnji.
Book about Croatian Nazis in Russian front
http://www.mediafire.com/?cvdo66kb7oe8ioe
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'Na donjem linku moze se pogledati tekst o pokusaju stvaranja unije svih hriscana u 15. veku koji je propao, izmedju ostalog jer srpska crkva nije to prihvatila, a ispod je tekst pisma koje je patrijarh Pavle uputio papi Jovanu Pavlu II nakon njegovog priznavanja Hrvatske i Slovenije. Iz tog pisma se moze naslutiti kakav je odnos prema papi imao bivsi patrijarh:
http://www.cps.org.rs/florentinska_unija.pdf
http://www.cps.org.rs/pismo.pdf '
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http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/sharpe/101228
December 28, 2010
Two nations under Islamic duress -- Serbia and Israel
By Victor Sharpe
In the 14th century, the Byzantine Empire began to crumble, finally falling to the Ottoman Turks in 1453. But in 1389, the Ottoman Turkish sultan, Murad, 1, began to lead his forces against the armies of the Serbian prince Lazar.
The Serbian prince had already been active in resisting increasing Muslim raids against Christian lands in the Balkans and had called his barons, knights and warriors together to ask them if they should fight or become slaves, dhimmis, to the Muslims. The decision was made to fight although their forces would number some 35,000 against a Turkish Muslim host of 100,000. But better to fight than to be enslaved.
The place chosen to make a stand against the Muslim Turks was at Kosovo Polje (the Field of Blackbirds) in Kosovo — the heartland of the Serbian nation. It was in June, 1389, on St. Vitus Day, (Vidovdan), that the rival forces met.
Prince Lazar reviewed the serried ranks of his foot soldiers and the mass of his cavalry, but he saw facing him a Muslim horde with a sea of waving flags upon which were emblazoned the Islamic crescent. He called upon all Serbs on that day saying: "Whoever is of Serbian descent and fails to come and fight in Kosovo, may his name be cursed for as long as his lineage should last."
The battle began at first with Serbian successes and the great Serbian hero, Milos Obilic, killed the Turkish Muslim sultan, Murad. For a while the Turks were in disarray but they managed to recover and by their sheer weight of numbers ground down and defeated the Serbian army.
It was not a mere military defeat but the end of Serbian independence and the beginning of 500 years of Christian suffering under the Muslim yoke. But worse still, the Serbian heartland of Kosovo was lost. For the Serbian people, the blood shed at the Battle of Kosovo in the Field of Blackbirds marks Kosovo as eternally Serbian.
Another year in history that haunts the memory of a different people, who also suffered the loss of their heartland, is the year 70 AD. It was in that terrible year that the Roman general, Titus, finally came with overwhelming force against the people of Judea and the Jewish capital city, Jerusalem.
Suffering for decades appalling persecution by Roman procurators such as Rufus, Gratus and Pilate, and their Roman legions, the Jews rose up against the occupation of their ancient land and at first won great victories. But the superpower of its day, the Roman Empire, sent legion after legion to relentlessly grind down Jewish resistance.
Jerusalem, was finally surrounded by Titus and his forces. Every tree within 20 miles of the city was cut down to make a wooden palisade around the city walls, both fruit and olive as well as immense stands of cedars — some over 1,000 years old — were cut down; trees which the Jews had planted and nursed for centuries. In this, there is an eerie similarity from the past to the present. Today, the forests in Israel planted as long ago as 100 years by Jewish pioneers are often targeted by Arab Muslim arsonists, who call themselves Palestinians, and who gleefully burn down the trees.
Jerusalem was finally destroyed after a frightful siege in which hundreds of thousands died of disease and hunger. Eliezer, one of the leaders of the resistance managed to escape with his followers and their families to the immense rock of Masada that overlooks the Dead Sea.
There, high upon the mountain that had been a winter palace of King Herod, the 960 Jewish men, women and children held out for three years. But in the end, Eliezer called them together and asked them if they should surrender. Rather than be enslaved or crucified they took their lives.
Before that they had witnessed some one hundred thousand Jewish resistors crucified by the Romans in an immense and ghastly forest of crosses surrounding Jerusalem. In this, yet more trees from Judea and Galilee had been cut down turning the once fertile land into a howling desert.
It was later in 133 AD that the Second Jewish Revolt against continuing Roman depredations and occupation occurred, which also was successful in the first years of the uprising, but finally led to Emperor Hadrian destroying what was left of the Jewish state in 135 AD and — in a frightful insult to the Jewish survivors — renamed the Jewish homeland, Palestina, after the hated and long extinct biblical enemies of the Jews; the Philistines.
Centuries pass but history has an almost supernatural way of repeating itself. Fast forward to the twentieth and twenty first centuries and both Serbia and the Jewish homeland are linked by eerie circumstances. Both are demonized in the mainstream press and both are under relentless aggression from Islam. But let us consider the new gold of our times and how it shapes politics and war: Oil.
Oil has a peculiar smell. It has been described as a stench, which assails the nostrils. But it does much more than irritate the membranes in the human nose. It greases the machinery of geo-politics and lubricates the revenge and envy that nation states harbor towards each other.
The need for oil makes and destroys states and peoples and too often befouls humanity. It is still a necessary evil, but much of this black gold happens by fate to lie under the sands of the Arab Middle East and the Islamic Republic of Iran and thus morphs into a terrible weapon wielded by Arab despots and Islamo-fascist fanatics.
The late 20th century insane rush that created Kosovo as yet another Muslim autonomous region in the heart of the Balkans, was a testament to the curse of oil. Ever ready to enrich their economies, the Europeans and, sadly, the Clinton Administration combined to appease and placate the Arab and Muslim kings, emirs, imams and assorted dictators. The price demanded by the Saudis and the Gulf States for example was, as always, a steep one; namely to pave the way for more and more Muslim influence throughout the world.
The Saudis constantly pour billions of their petrodollars into Europe and North and South America in order to build lavish mosques where Wahhabi imams propagate extremist forms of Islam. European and American universities hold out their begging bowls to receive Arab money and in return help facilitate the spread of anti-Israel and anti-Western falsehoods masquerading as Middle East studies.
The phenomena of the so-called sovereign funds are instruments through which European and American financial institutions receive desperately needed infusions of Arab money to bail themselves out of their own greed and monetary shortcomings. And the financial help bestowed upon them always comes with strings, thus adding yet another layer of Arab and Muslim pressure.
Islamist influence grows with every passing day. Facts are being created on the ground, which are changing the demographics and national characteristics of one European state after another. And it was in Europe that Arab oil drove the creation of a Muslim statelet, Kosovo, that is rapidly becoming a radical Islamist Balkan beachhead to threaten what is left of Christian Europe. In time it will inevitably become a springboard for terror into both the United States and Russia.
The U.S. State Department's Nicholas Burns some years ago had congratulated the Kosovars in obtaining their independence from Serbia. This was a betrayal of the Serbian people and has left a disfiguring scar on the United States. For the Serbian people, the province of Kosovo is their very ancestral heartland. The long suffering Serbs were forced to witness the witless and perfidious Western powers rip away Serbia's heart while the hated ethnic Albanian and Muslim historical enemies took possession of it. The Serbs, in fact, call Kosovo their "Jerusalem." That is how holy they consider their lost homeland.
And we must realize that Israel, too, is threatened by the same evil created by Arab oil. The Arabs who call themselves Palestinians demand Judaism's eternal holy city of Jerusalem and the Jewish heartland of Judea and Samaria (known by the erroneous Arab name of the West Bank). In this, the baleful influence of President Barack Hussein Obama looms, just as the Serbian people's heartland of Kosovo was stolen from them with the connivance and brute force of President Clinton and his diplomats, Richard Holbrooke and Madeleine Albright..
Under relentless U.S State Department pressure, the Israeli government of Prime Minister Netanyahu is enduring the same attempt at the dismemberment of its biblical, ancestral, aboriginal, spiritual and physical Jewish heartland as the brave and ill served Serbian people suffered with the loss of their beloved Kosovo.
Although Serbs living in enclaves within Kosovo are still holding on from being competely driven from their homes, the price of creating a Muslim Palestinian state is the expulsion — the ethnic cleansing — of all Jews from its proposed territory. In other words, it is even worse for the Jews as a new Arab state called Palestine will be judenrein — the forcible removal of Jewish villages and their inhabitants. And this unthinkable outrage of ethnic cleansing will be sanctioned by President Obama and the immoral United Nations under cover of the misnamed peace process. Jordan is historically in possession of nearly 80% of Mandatory Palestine and its population is over 75% Palestinian. There already thus exists a de facto Palestine. Israel is a mere 40 miles wide from the Mediterranean Sea to the River Jordan and it is within this narrow strip of land that a new Arab and Islamic state would be carved from the biblical Jewish heartland. the world demands that Israel returns to the highly vulnerable armistice lines that existed before June 5, 1967 when it was only nine miles wide at its most populous region.
These are the striking similarities between the Serbs and the Jews. Serbia originally lost its province of Kosovo after being defeated in battle by the Muslim Turks at the Field of Blackbirds in June, 1389. Like the Jews, who in their 2,000 years of exile dreamed of restoring their ancient homeland and their holy city of Jerusalem from alien conquerors after losing it to the Romans, so too the Serbs dreamed of Kosovo and wove their folk music and national identity around the lost Serbian heartland. Kosovo was partially restored to Serbia but it was not to be for long. Judea and Samaria was liberated by Israel in its defensive 1967 Six Day War. But the world is coming against Israel and in 2011 will bring terrible pressure upon the Jewish state to again abandon its very biblical and ancestral heartland and give it to a terrorist and Islamic state to be called Palestine.
During the late 1990s when President Clinton and his Secretary of State, Madeline Albright, launched a disgraceful war against the Serbs, the Serbian Deputy Prime Minister, Draskovitch said of Kosovo: "Our faith was born there, as was our language, our nationhood, our pride. It is incumbent upon us to defend Kosovo, even if we all die."
His words were uttered as American bombers, repainted in NATO colors, bombed Serbia for several months inflicting some 3,000 civilian deaths and destroying all the bridges over the Danube River in Belgrade. This was not America's finest hour but it is now largely dead and buried by the mainstream media.
The same mainstream media rarely, if ever, tells us about Serbia's passion during the many centuries leading up to the present and latest shameful act of the West. When Serbia was part of Yugoslavia, it was the Serbs who fought alone and unaided against the German divisions during World War 2; fighting them to a standstill. No other people alone in occupied Europe achieved that remarkable and heroic feat.
Croatia allied itself with Hitler and established a Nazi state. The Croatians exterminated hundreds of thousands of Serbs and tens of thousands of Jews. If you visit the Yasenovatz death camp in Croatia, you will find Jews and Serbs buried there together in mass graves.
The anti-Jewish Arab Mufti of Jerusalem during the British Mandate, Haj Amin el-Husseini, who spent many days with Hitler in his Berlin bunker plotting the destruction of Mandatory Palestine's Jewish population, encouraged the Bosnian Muslims to form several SS divisions who subsequently carried out mass murders and deportations of Jews to the German death camps.
Serbia emerged from the Second World War with the distinction of defeating the German invasion and inflicting severe losses on the German army. But the Serbs paid a terrible price, losing nearly 2,000,000 dead or some 12% of their population. The Serbian partisans, who included many Jewish fighters, were able to save thousands of Jews from death at the hands of the Croatian, German and Bosnian murderers.
During the Balkan Wars of the 1990s, the Croatians expelled some 250,000 Serbs from their homes in the Krajina district. As soon as the Muslims in Kosovo received autonomy in 1974, they drove out 400,000 Serbs. At the same time a vast influx of ethnic Albanians fleeing Communist rule, flooded across the border to take the place of the disinherited Serbs. Albanian Muslim birth rate was so high that within 60 years the Kosovan population within Kosovo grew from 70,000 in 1947 to 2,000,000 by 2004. Similarly, the Arab Muslim population within Israel has grown from 200,000 in 1950 to 1.2 million in 2010.
The Serbian people have been reduced to only 10% of their original population in Kosovo. Ethnic cleansing against the Serbs began long before the Western press ran their lurid stories of Serbian ethnic cleansing against the Bosnian Muslims. Predictably, the mainstream press ignored the earlier attacks by the Muslims against the Serbs, which first led to the war.
The lesson for Israel is that foreign powers have conspired to strip the expendable Serbs of their ancestral heartland and give it to the Muslims. In doing so, these same western powers believe that by placating and ingratiating themselves with the oil rich Arab and Muslim world they enrich their own economies. After all, Serbia does not possess any known oil reserves.
Israel, too, has been until quite recently bereft of meaningful reserves of oil. It too is thus expendable. The pressure upon Israel to give away its own ancestral, historic, spiritual and biblical heartland in Judea and Samaria (the West Bank) grows relentlessly and insidiously.
Sadly and tragically, there has not existed since the time of Prime Minister Shamir an Israeli government or leader with the intestinal fortitude and spiritual certitude to adamantly and resolutely resist the cynical and perfidious machinations of western leaders. Israel desperately needs a leader who can talk to the world as Draskovitch once spoke for the Serbian people. Perhaps Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu may yet be that leader, though he has not fully removed the fears of many Israelis.
Carloline Glick, writing in the Feb 23, 2008 edition of the Jerusalem Post summed up the Israeli government's confusion at that time: "What the Serbs made NATO fight its way in to achieve, Israel is offering NATO on a silver platter." She added, "... the lessons of Kosovo are clear. Not only should Israel join Russia, Canada, China, Spain, Romania and many others in refusing to recognize Kosovo. It should also state that as a consequence of Kosovo's independence, Israel rejects the deployment of any international forces to Gaza or Judea and Samaria, and refuses to cede its legal right to sovereignty in Judea, Samaria, Gaza and Jerusalem to international arbitration." Israel gave Gaza to the Arabs in 2005 in the hope the Arabs would create a peaceful Palestinian state. They did not. Hamas occupies Gaza and has bombarded Israel with over 12,000 missiles since 2005 and vows the extermination of the Jewish state.
Serbia and Israel must be supported by all who still cherish morality over expediency. Historical correctness must in all such cases trump so-called political correctness. As goes Serbia, so goes Israel.
Neither nation deserves to become victim to the international greed for black gold and the attendant groveling acceptance by oil-importing states to the demands of the oil producing dictatorships and Islamic theocracies. The failure to withstand Islamic triumphalism is dhimmitude or death.
© Victor Sharpe
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this is a pretty good part of text that i started to write!
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Serbs have won the Kosovo battle. One day the truth will be revealed.
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http://www.scribd.com/doc/48181660/The-Krajina-Chronicle-A-History-of-Serbs-in-Croatia-Slavonia-and-Dalmatia-Srdja-Trifkovic
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The Serbs: I Take My Stand
By Eugene Girin
Friday, 18 Feb 2011
I asked my father in '92 or '93 about who the “good guys” were in the Bosnian War (I had a keen interest in politics at that tender age). “The Serbs, of course! Who else? We [Jews] and they have the same enemies”. I advocated the Serb cause ever since.
I used to get in trouble in school for scoffing at the teachers' parroting of anti-Serb propaganda. I still remember how my “global history” professor blanched when I told him the only genocide in Bosnia was perpetrated by the Croatian Ustasa and their Bosnian Muslim sidekicks. The Serbophobic lies and lack of fair coverage (I didn't read Chronicles back then) reminded me of the horror stories I heard about Soviet propaganda. Defending the Serbs was my first brush with the behemoth of political correctness that transformed bloodthirsty brigands like the KLA into heroic martyrs and a “nation” established by apostasy into angelic victims of “ethnic cleansing”. I cheered every Serb victory and mourned every Serb defeat. The only time I was ashamed to be an American was when Clinton bombed Yugoslavia.
The Serbs have what the rest of the West was missing: courage. During the NATO assault on Yugoslavia, thousands of people stood on Belgrade bridges holding candles to prevent their destruction. Can anyone imagine people in London, Los Angeles, or Lisbon doing the same? In what other nation today, would psychiatrists, biologists, dissidents, and outlaws join forces to fight for their ancestral lands and the future of their people?
The Serbs carry this devotion to their motherland in the blood: from the mountain rebels who ambushed janissary patrols during Ottoman rule to the priests and school teachers who left their families to take up arms against the Ustasa killers - first in the 1940s then in the 1990s. Reviled as “war criminals”, the Bosnian Serbs re-fought the battles of Lepanto and Vienna against the modern day janissaries of the Bosniak army. Dragged before sham tribunals like the kangaroo court in the Hague, Serb leaders maintained their dignity in front of the Eurocrat nobodies.
Nowadays, the Serbs are in greater danger than they were in the 1990s. Boris Tadic's “Euro-Integrationist” (read: traitorous) regime has for all intents and purposes surrendered to the “international community.” Instead of defending its claim to Kosovo, Tadic conspired with the usual suspects of the EU and the State Department to surrender Kosovo to the drug runners and the organ stealers. In an embarrassing display of groveling Tadic denounced Russia (Serbia's oldest ally) to the State Department and turned a blind eye to the growing Muslim secessionist movement in Serbia's Sanjak region.
How is it possible that what the sanctions and the bombs did not accomplish is slowly being accomplished by the sweet poison of “Euro-integration” fed into the veins of Serbia by the “international community”? Why did a nation that resisted the pressure and vitriol of the whole world suddenly elect a leader who kneels at the feet of the Council of Europe? Perhaps the poison of globalism will only be cured when its institutions will collapse and a new Europe will rise from its rubble. Or maybe the poison is simply incurable.
During the war in Kosovo, my father and several other Soviet Jews led a pro-Serb online campaign in the Jewish media. A Serb priest from New Jersey wrote to my father telling him that he will dedicate prayers in his honor. My father responded that our family has always been a friend and supporter of the Serbs. It is the duty of everyone who cares about the West to support and honor the Serb nation. For if we do not, history and our descendants will never forgive us.
http://serbstvo.yuku.com/topic/365/The-Serbs-I-Take-My-Stand
http://www.balkanstudies.org/blog/serbs-i-take-my-stand
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Deconstruction of a Virtual Genocide
By Srebrenica Historical Project
Saturday, 26 Feb 2011
The controversy of Srebrenica enters a new phase. There is now a definitive new study in English incorporating the most up to date evidence and presenting a thorough critique of the evidence -- or what passed for evidence -- that was available previously.
It is the monograph prepared by a group of authors and published by Srebrenica Historical Project entitled “Deconstruction of a virtual genocide: An intelligent person’s guide to Srebrenica.” The guiding concept behind the monograph was to address all the key points in this controversy within the confines of a single readable and well-documented volume.
As we have always done since the beginning of our work, we have strived here also to achieve maximum balance and fairness with a minimum of emotion. The banishment of emotion from the discussion of such a highly charged topic as Srebrenica may appear to be a difficult and nearly impossible task. But it is not so daunting after all when it is approached in the right way. The now familiar descent into emotionalism whenever Srebrenica is debated occurs only when the subject is approached by those who have a set agenda. They usually take extreme positions and since their claims are not supported by facts they must resort to emotion, and on occasion even vituperation and ad hominem diatribes, to make up for the shortcomings of their “arguments.” We are not in that position because we have no agenda, so we also have no need for emotional shortcuts. We are only interested in the truth, whatever in the end it may turn out to be, and that is a goal that we will continue to pursue dispassionately.
Since we are not finished with our task, we cannot draw any final conclusions. But we can suggest some preliminary findings which the evidence that we have seen so far supports strongly. What happened in the region of Srebrenica between 1992 and 1995 was a human tragedy of enormous proportions. Two neighbouring communities virtually annihilated each other. There are no winners in the Srebrenica story.
Chronologically, the first community in Srebrenica to be devastated was the Serbs. They were first expelled from the town itself in 1992, then their villages surrounding it were systematically attacked and torched while with medieval barbarity a part of the inhabitants were “put to the sword” and the rest were driven out. When predictably the boomerang returned in 1993 and with even greater ferocity in July of 1995, regrettably it was the turn of the local Bosnian Muslims to suffer. And, indeed, they paid a heavy price for the insane policies of their venal and incompetent leadership.
The controversy which has surrounded the subject of Srebrenica ever since defies rational understanding. There are established core facts about Srebrenica (focusing on July 1995) that all reasonable people can readily agree on: [1] After the fall of Srebrenica to Serbian forces on 11 July, 1995, a substantial number of Muslim prisoners of war were executed, and [2] That massacre was a war crime the perpetrators of which must be identified and punished. The incomprehensible, characteristically Balkan, overkill aspect of the debate is that the Muslim political leadership in Sarajevo insists on imposing its own, politically-driven and dogmatic interpretation of those facts. Notwithstanding the glaring lack of physical evidence after 15 years of assiduous searching, it requires everyone to believe, or at least to hypocritically pretend in public that they believe, that the number of executed prisoners was 8,000. They have also proclaimed it a dogma that the execution of the prisoners was an act of genocide, although – based on the evidence discovered so far – there is nothing to support such a radical interpretation of the massacre. It is for that politically twisted version of Srebrenica that our monograph is meant to serve as a Requiem.
The lunacy of this position should be apparent to everyone whose mind functions on non-Balkan principles. If you want to discredit someone, imputing the killing of a couple of hundred unarmed prisoners is bad enough; you are not going make him look substantially worse by exaggerating the figure tenfold. Likewise, it would seem ultimately futile (not to say ridiculous) to claim “genocide” on the basis of an 8,000 figure, whether it has a factual foundation or not, in a century of real genocides where figures range from 1,5 million (Armenian) to six million (Jewish). Certainly, no court would ever manage to convict the Sarajevo Muslim political leadership on the charge of subtlety.
We have earnestly sought to avoid as many minefields as possible (no pun intended, but readers are kindly requested to turn to Chapter VII of our monograph to understand the reasons for this notice). It was our goal also to sort out as many dilemmas as possible given the current state of Srebrenica evidence. As they always say on such occasions, we now commend the fruit of our labours to our gentle readers and, naturally, we are fully prepared to abide by their judgment.
Finally, we consider it appropriate to offer to our readers the “Introduction” written by former BBC journalist and political analyst, Jonathan Rooper, who has retained a lively interest in the affairs of the former Yugoslavia and in particular the controversy of Srebrenica ever since the Balkan conflicts of the nineties. The monograph “Deconstruction of a virtual genocide: An intelligent person’s guide to Srebrenica” can be downloaded in its entirety from the link which is at the end of Mr. Rooper’s piece.
INTRODUCTION --One question that anybody who takes up the critical study of the regnant narrative of the "Srebrenica massacre" always faces is ‘why?’ As a field of research and inquiry, hasn't the basic outline of the events that befell the Srebrenica ‘safe-area’ population after the enclave was captured by the Bosnian Serb army on 11 July 1995 been well-established since the second-half of that year, when Western reporters such as the Christian Science Monitor's David Rohde allegedly stumbled upon a ‘decomposing human leg protruding from the freshly turned dirt’ in a landscape that, Rohde claimed, he recognized from ‘spy-satellite photos’ that had been faxed to him just days before by ‘American officials’?
Why then would it occur to someone to challenge what appears to be well-known about the ‘Srebrenica massacre’? And why should this task be of interest and importance to anyone outside survivors and a relatively small coterie of fanatics?
The critical study of the ‘Srebrenica massacre’ that Stephen Karganović collects in this volume is important because, taken as a whole, they show that within a very brief period of time – no longer than a handful of weeks - what had originated in self-serving wartime propaganda and whispers about an atrocity that symbolized Serb evil, became institutionalized as The Truth, effectively removing the actual event from inquiry, and placing it under seal in a sacrosanct realm of myth where it has flourished ever since.
Initially generated by a nexus between the NATO-bloc powers that had intervened on behalf of the Bosnian Muslim and Croat sides in the civil wars that destroyed the unitary Yugoslavia, and Western news media and human rights organizations committed to proving the veracity of this wartime propaganda, the myth of the ‘Srebrenica massacre’ has been re-institutionalized with every Srebrenica-related judgment at the International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia (e.g., Krstic in August 2001) as well as the International Court of Justice (February 2007).
As this book reminds us, it serves also as a "mass mobilisation vehicle" every year during the 11 July internment ceremony at the Srebrenica-Potocari Memorial and Cemetery for the Victims of the 1995 Genocide, where yet new layers of propaganda are laid upon the propaganda of the earlier years. It is of course also one of the two most frequently cited symbolic bloodbaths in the Western canon (the other being Rwanda 1994) whenever someone invokes the ‘Never again’ imperative of the Nazi holocaust to urge the great powers towards ‘humanitarian intervention’, the ‘responsibility to protect’, and most recently ‘mass atrocity response operations’.
Because this ‘Srebrenica massacre’, with its alleged 8,000 victims, conformed so well to framework of what could be expected from the monster Serbs held responsible for the wars, very few inquiries into the real, if far smaller, massacres and executions carried out against the males of the fleeing ‘safe area’ population have ever been undertaken. This is why the critical study of the ‘Srebrenica massacre’ undertaken here is vital and stands as a far more honest tribute to these real victims than does the vast literature which it challenges and helps to overturn.
There is a further pertinent question to answer: why has it taken so long for the core facts about Srebrenica, so clearly expressed in this book, to be collected in this way?The answer comes in two parts. First, the process of international investigation and prosecution was very slow and much of the ‘evidence’ supporting the judgements handed down by the ICTY was not revealed in any form until years after the events.
Second, few people have tried to make an independent assessment of what happened. For example, of all the journalists who have ever written or broadcast about Srebrenica, only a handful appear to have made any real efforts to investigate the official account. It has, as a result, been solely through the efforts of a loose collaboration of individuals around the world that we now have a thorough analysis of what happened in July 1995.
Predictably, many attacks have been made on these people. They have been repeatedly accused of genocide denial. Serious attempts have been made, in Europe and elsewhere, to criminalise their investigative efforts.
The collaborations which have finally led to the publication of this book have developed almost entirely by chance. In the UK a number of us began to collect reports and broadcasts, building a chronology of events and a background database. We did this separately at first, but by 1995, thanks to the former “Observer” journalist Nora Beloff, a group of us were in touch with one another, exchanging information and ideas. We had become quite an efficient monitoring machine by the time the Bosnian Serb Army took control of Srebrenica in July 1995. We archived hundreds of reports. As we went along, we noted many pieces of information which conflicted with the consensus narrative in the media in the UK, the USA and Europe.
We were conscious of Srebrenica’s short-term political importance in drawing attention away from the US-backed invasion of Krajina and the final abandonment of the international ‘neutrality’, which led to the ending of the civil wars and the terms imposed at Dayton in November. But we did not yet foresee the full extent to which the ‘Srebrenica massacre’ would become the most complete symbol of Serbian evil in the Balkan conflicts. Our work was therefore much more widely focused until at least 1997, and was further diverted by the Kosovo war in 1999.
Our network was gradually expanding. Through the internet, people researching aspects of the Balkan conflicts eventually became aware of each other and often made contacts that would lead to new partnerships. One such development was the Srebrenica Research Group, [1] an international collective brought together by Professor Edward Herman in the summer of 2003. This was not only a platform for the free exchange of knowledge, information and ideas, but a determined attempt to investigate exactly what had happened on the basis of academic rigour.
The work of the group was exciting and, I think, highly productive. The outcome was in my opinion about the best analysis that could be made on the basis of available information. Our constraint was that we had no resources beyond the limited amounts of our own time we could devote to Srebrenica research. And we certainly had no means of carrying out our own fundamental investigations.
In September 2008 I was contacted by Stephen Karganović, who had recently set up the Srebrenica Historical Project. Based in Holland, this organisation had secured funding to mount conferences and to commission its own investigations and expert analysis of key questions about Srebrenica.
The extent and quality of the work done by the SHP since that time has been remarkable. In a little over two years they have taken on a range of challenges that would daunt the most skilled data crunchers. I believe this work has rewritten the Srebrenica narrative decisively.
The purpose of this Introduction is not to summarise the many revelations published on the pages that follow. It is, rather, to commend this book in the strongest terms. This collection demonstrates that the stories about ‘the worst war crime in Europe since the 2nd World War’ are fictions, unrelated to what took place.
It is vital that the unadorned truth about the Balkan conflicts should be freed from the lies and misrepresentations that have characterised the first draft of this history. Only then can there be some kind of genuine process of truth and reconciliation in the aftermath of the Balkan wars. This work provides a platform from which such a process can begin.
Jonathan Rooper
Jonathan Rooper was a BBC TV News & Current Affairs journalist from 1983 until 1999. After several years as a desk producer on daily programmes, he became a field producer making short investigative films on social and political affairs issues. He was head of the BBC News Features department for four years. Since leaving the BBC he has worked in corporate communications and now earns his living as a freelance, specialising in corporate video production and editing, media and presentation training and corporate journalism.
http://www.balkanstudies.org/articles/deconstruction-virtual-genocide
http://www.srebrenica-project.com/DOWNLOAD/books/Deconstruction_of_a_virtual_genocide.pdf
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http://serbstvo.yuku.com/topic/386/History-of-Serbian-Culture
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoME3fY5ltE
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POLITICKI CUNAMI PRIBLIZAVA SE IZRAELU
Na konferenciji o bezbednosti u Tel Avivu, ministar odbrane Ehud Barak je izjavio da medjunarodna i domaca javnost nije svesna kakva velika opasnost se priblizava Izraelu: “U medjunarodnoj zajednici postoji pokret za priznavanja palestinske drzave u granicama pre rata iz 1967. Ovo priznanje ce uslediti najkasnije do septebra,” izjavio je Barak.
Posledice ovakvog ishitrenog priznavanja ocepljenja dela teritorije drzave Izrael imace nesagledive posledice po region, a narocito zbog toga sto se deo Jerusalima nalazi iza zelene linije (granica pre 1967). Mogucnost izbijanja gradjanskog rata, a i strane intervencije veoma je velika.
Jasno je da postoje planovi u centrima moci na zapadu da se u Jerusalimu izazove gradjanski rat, a da se onda grad stavi pod medjunarodni protektorat. Svima je poznato da u ovim zahtevima prednjaci rimokatolicka institucija.
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http://www.shofar.de/volunteers-e.html
The London Times:
"About 40 Israeli volunteers fight on the side of Serbs"
from Christopher Walker, Jerusalem
About 40 Israeli volunteers have been fighting alongside the Serbs as a gesture of gratitude for Serb support for Yugoslav Jews against the Nazis in the Second World War.
The existence of the Israeli fighters - they do not like the term mercenaries - was revealed by Ron Ben Yishai, an Israeli war correspondent who was injured by Kosovo Liberation Army sniper fire this week while reporting from the province for the Tel Aviv daily Yediot Aharonot.
The paper said that all the Israeli fighters had emigrated to the Jewish state from the former Soviet Union and were part of a volunteer unit, the majority of whose members were Russians.
Mr Ben Yishai quoted one of the Israeli volunteers, named only as Valery, who recently returned home after fighting in Kosovo for a month, as saying: "We decided to fight alongside the Serbs as a token of our gratitude for the assistance the Serbs extended to the Jews of Yugoslavia who were persecuted by the Nazis in World War Two."
The Israeli fighter said that another reason that he had joined up was "identification with the Christian Slavs' fight against the Muslims trying to take over Europe".
Diplomatic observers noted that, at an earlier stage of the Yugoslav crisis, many Islamic volunteers - including former members of the Afghan Mujahidin rebels who had fought against the Soviet forces - fought alongside the Bosnian Muslims.
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http://strony.aster.pl/freshfruits/files/The%20Serbia-Israel%20Connection%20-%20krotka%20notka%20o%20handlu%20bronia%20-%20JDW.htm
The Serbia-Israel connection
Jane’s Defence Weekly Foreign Report
Israel has received an urgent Serbian request for military supplies, according to FOREIGN REPORT's Israeli sources. The Serbian government, through a senior Israeli diplomat, has presented its shopping list of military equipment, medicines and credit. The Israeli response is not known.
Military ties between the Israelis and the Serb regime led by Slobodan Milosevic started in 1992 when a delegation from the Israeli defence ministry arrived in Belgrade, the Serbian capital, to try to sell arms to Serbia. According to the report from our sources, which is unconfirmed, a deal was eventually done for the supply of a large quantity of shells.
The co-operation became closer. About two months ago, some Serbian MiG-21 fighters - an old type but reliable - were flown to Israel. At an air base, Israeli experts examined the possibility of upgrading the MiGs by modernising their electronics and weapons. Avionics experts said the MiGs were too old and suggested that the Serbians buy new models. The MiG's were flown home.
Arm the enemy?
The Israel-Serbia Connection is bound to be frowned upon by the United States; it has also been criticised by an Israeli parliamentary committee. Its members pointed to reports that until 1992 Serbia was the main training location for the Palestinians.
Two Israeli groups support Serbia. One is the Serbian-Israeli Friendship Group, which regards Serbia's opposition to Hitler during the second world war as heroic. The other is the influential arms industry which, in a shrinking market, is fighting for its survival. Since most of the Serbian army is equipped with Russian-made weapons, with which the Israelis are familiar, this looks like a good opportunity. Serbia also has some T-60 tanks in need of updating.
The government need not be involved. Contacts between the two countries have been made through private businessmen. One of them is Jerusalem-based. Our sources say the Israelis are weighing the urgent Serbian request for assistance. On one hand, the Americans and Europeans would be angry. On the other hand, as our source says, the Israelis think they can get away with anything as far as the United States government is concerned.
Our prediction: Israel will respond with a substantial proposal, but only after the crisis is over.
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http://christianactionforisrael.org/isreport/janfeb01/balkanization.html
The Balkanization of the Middle East
A new word entered the lexicon of Palestinian nationalism this past week - "uranium." PLO chief Yasser Arafat, on two occasions, charged Israel with using "uranium" weapons against the Palestinians in the course of the recent conflict in the Middle East. It was an absurd allegation he had handily borrowed from the widely reported rumors in mid-January of a rash of cancer cases linked to NATO's use of weapons tipped with depleted uranium in its 1999 bombing campaign against Serbia. The intent was clear - plant in the minds of the world the Serbia/Israel connection.
Throughout the four months of the current Palestinian uprising, the PLO leadership has ratcheted up their propaganda efforts to "internationalize" the Israeli-Palestinian conflict by equating it to the "ethnic cleansing" and "war crimes" committed in Kosovo. For if such a linkage can be established, it both justifies and necessitates similar military action against Israel. NATO air strikes on Tel Aviv? It may seem folly, but it bears watching.
When NATO forces launched their air campaign against Yugoslavia on March 24, 1999, the Western world stood united behind NATO, even though the military operation was carried out without a mandate of the United Nations. The goal was the crippling of the Serbian war machine in Kosovo and enforcing compliance with the international peace plan drawn up at Rambouillet, France.
One Western nation stood out for initially failing to voice support for what was called the "Allied Operation against Serb atrocities on the Balkan" - Israel. Minister of Foreign Affairs Ariel Sharon explained why Israel hesitated to support the military action. "If we support force to resolve a regional conflict, we could be the next victim," Sharon was quoted as saying at the onset of the Balkan campaign. Soon afterwards, Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu distanced himself somewhat from Sharon's remarks and sent a field hospital to the Balkans to help Albanian refugees.
At the same time, however, Sharon's reservations were validated when Arafat and other Palestinian officials began calling for a similar international response to end "Israel's atrocities against the Palestinian people." Not only the Arab media, but even the respected Economist branded the plight of the Palestinian people "an unpunished ethnic cleansing." Meanwhile, Israel's former prime minister and most prominent dove, Shimon Peres, could not resist the analogy and declared at the time that the Jewish settlements in Judea/Samaria and Gaza were bound to create a "Kosovo-like" situation in Israel.
Chilled by such thoughts, some right-wing Knesset members called for an end to the air strikes. If the West intervenes on behalf of an independence-seeking ethnic minority in Kosovo, one asked, "couldn't it happen here too, in a different variation today or tomorrow?"
That was 1999 - a mere two years ago. Today, after the failure of the Oslo peace talks to produce a final-status agreement and in the midst the surging intifada, it is again not just Palestinian voices speaking of the "balkanization of the Middle East." No less a body than the Council on Foreign Relations - the American establishment's influential forum for steering US foreign policy - has begun to prescribe similar treatments for these two arenas of conflict and tension.
The CFR's widely respected flagship journal Foreign Affairs, reflecting its regional reconfiguration of the world map, features in the January/February 2001 issue a new section entitled "The Middle East & the Balkans." The section contains three articles on Israel and the former Yugoslavia. In the first article, the author makes a direct comparison between Gaza and Kosovo's war-torn capital, Pristina. More noteworthy are the article's proposed solutions for both the Israeli-Palestinian and Balkan conflicts.
Addressing Israel and the Palestinians, Arthur Hertzberg urges that "both sides should abandon their messianic dreams" and make "pragmatic arrangements that bring some calm to the world." Both peoples must tone down their national and religious aspirations, meaning a mutual lowering of the religious significance of Jerusalem and Israeli thinking that "everything between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River was inalienably Jewish."
Foreign Affairs delivers the same message in a more direct tone to Serbia. The magazine calls upon Belgrade to "join the club," meaning Serbia should abandon their "preoccupation with the nineteenth-century concept of a nation-state with borders" and "embrace the concept of a transnational integration" into Europe. The region's fundamental choice is presented as "becoming less Balkans" and moving on to "becoming more European." And this choice, the author threatens, "over time might well mean a choice between peace and war."
The CFR journal continues with this theme in a following section, a collection of articles on the theme "Bridging the Gap of Globalization." One article entitled "Are human right universal" claims to be "a defense of truly global human rights." The following essay, "Toward a global parliament," sees the need for a global council which would "enforce the collective efforts to protect the environment, control or eliminate weapons, safeguard human rights and protect the global community."
In Israel, the main concern of many leftist politicians is to comply with the expectations of the world community. Prominent political leaders and intellectuals are joining hands behind the thrust of ideas now commonly referred to as "post-Zionism." Their goal is to "free" the State of Israel from its unique Jewish character and to make it a "nation like all other nations." A most prominent spokesman of this trend is Shimon Peres, who, in his book "The New Middle East," elaborates on how Israel can qualify as a proper global citizen. "The entire idea of the small national state - the Jewish state included - has collapsed," Peres explains in his book. "The area of the former country of Yugoslavia are a prime example of this. The supranational trend predominates everywhere."
In fact, according to Peres, Arab and Jewish nationalism were to blame for triggering interminable war in the region. Israel's Foreign Minister Shlomo Ben-Ami concurred only a few days ago when he spoke of a "Bosnia-like" situation in Israel.
There are clear indications that the Government of Prime Minister Ehud Barak has been stepping to the CFR beat, perhaps voluntarily, and it has brought Israel to a dangerous precipice. So dangerous that the nation appears primed to place noted hawk Ariel Sharon at the helm in hopes he will manage the Palestinian uprising in a new, firmer way.
Unnerved by the steady political demise of Barak in public opinion polls, the CFR invited the caretaker Israeli premier to defend his peace-making record in a conference call with Council members in early January. In a speech that resembled a report to a board of directors, Barak explained at length his past policies and current plans for resolving the diplomatic impasse and quelling the renewed Palestinian violence. But the appeal for understanding apparently failed. Henry Siegman, a leading Middle East analyst and senior fellow in the CFR's "Middle East & the Balkans" section, penned an opinion column published the very next day in THE INTERNATIONAL HERALD TRIBUNE which called for Barak to step down in deference to Peres as the Labor party's candidate for prime minister.
Israel's ultimate choice, so it seems, is to fit into the global framework or else... If she decides not to comply, the choice over time may well mean a choice between "peace and war." Arafat keeps hounding the halls of power for an international force to "protect the Palestinians." He appeared well on course to getting it. But now, Sharon may be standing in his way.
Jurgen Buhler and David Parsons
ICEJ NEWS
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Serbian-Israeli Friendship Srpsko-Izraelsko prijateljstvo on facebook
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_197234273644745&ap=1
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xftb-hLorzM&feature=related
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Skanderbeg, whose brother Reposh was a monk at Chilandar (he was also buried there), is Orthodox Christian by father and by mother, and the Albanians took him as their national hero because he was a "Christian army commander," among them were a lot of Albanian Christians. Skanderbeg's father's name was Ivan , the grandfather Pavle (Paul), the great-grandfather Komlen, great- great-grandfather Branilo. His mother was Vojisava Tribaldic.Vojvoda Drekalo was the great grandson of Djuradj Kastriot Skanderbeg.
So continue:
Drekalo - Djuradj - Jovan - Djuradj (Skanderbeg) - Ivan - Paul -Komlen - and
until today:
(http://www.cps.org.rs/rodoslov.jpg)
http://www.cps.org.rs/rodoslov.jpg
He was a Serb by father and mother. The name "Skanderbeg" was given to him when he was kidnapped as a small child from his family by Turks and forcibly converted to Islam. But when he grew up,Scanderbeg escaped from the Turkish camp and became the greatest enemy of Turkey, uniting all Christians in the fight against the Ottoman invaders.
This is an example of falsification of history by Albanians and by they helpers,to the detriment of Serbs!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppCTd9rrit0
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http://www.vostok.rs/index.php?option=btg_novosti&catnovosti=0&idnovost=9959
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http://www.mediafire.com/?jqcq76jxug9i0vs
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milunka_Savi%C4%87
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eODLtDz4IM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSVjLcjSHq4&NR=1
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBrKAH51sYg&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USuxRwJmyJw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvGeWbdsvK4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMbb1dYhWE4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPzvPsI4lXw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJzDOVZzoHk&feature=related
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THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CRIMINAL PROJECT OF THE ARTIFICIAL CROATIAN NATION
http://www.vseselj.com/files/books/Rimokatolicki-na-engleskom.pdf
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Very interesting postings !
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http://emperors-clothes.com/index.html
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Great BBC documentary film about death of former Yugoslavia
http://www.yu4you.com/items/en/dvd/item_1082.html
http://www.yu4you.com/items/en/dvd/item_1088.html
http://www.yu4you.com/items/en/dvd/item_1089.html
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Great BBC documentary film about death of former Yugoslavia
http://www.yu4you.com/items/en/dvd/item_1082.html
http://www.yu4you.com/items/en/dvd/item_1088.html
http://www.yu4you.com/items/en/dvd/item_1089.html
that video is propaganda!
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Great BBC documentary film about death of former Yugoslavia
http://www.yu4you.com/items/en/dvd/item_1082.html
http://www.yu4you.com/items/en/dvd/item_1088.html
http://www.yu4you.com/items/en/dvd/item_1089.html
http://jtf.org/forum/index.php/topic,55816.0.html
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Ethnographic map of the Austrian monarchy
Ethnographische Karte der Osterreichischen Monarchie. Nach Bernhardi, Safarik, und eigenen Untersuchungen von HBgs. Febr 1845. 8te Abtheilung: Ethnographie No 10. Gez. in der geogr. Kunstschule zu Potsdam auf v. Stulpnagel's Osterr. Kaiserstaat (No 26 in Stieler's H. Atlas). Gest. v. W. Behrens, Shr. v. Fr. In Baumgarten. Gotha 1846, bei J. Perthes. 1846.
Ethnographic map of the Austrian monarchy. According to Bernhardi, Safarik, and our own investigations of HBgs. Feb 1845th 8th division: Ethnography of No 10 Gez. in the geographic. Art School at Potsdam v. Stulpnagel's Østerrike. Kaiser State (No. 26 in Stieler's Atlas H.). Gest. by W. Behrens, Shr. In Baumgarten v. Fr. Gotha, 1846, by J. Perthes. 1846th
http://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet/detail/RUMSEY~8~1~1557~160089:Ethnographische-Karte-der-Osterreic
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Ethnographic map of the Austrian monarchy 2
This is magnified snapshot of lower-right corner of the map where is the data on the population of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. In this part of picture(and in whole map) we can see that territory of former Yugoslavia its called Illyro-Serben territories because there lives Illyro-Serben (Illyro-Serbs)! Who are they!? They are :
Illyro-Serben = 4.604.600
a) Serben (Shokzen u. Raizen) = 2.624.000 - Serbs
b) Chorwaten (Kroaten) = 813.300 - Croats
c) Slowenzen (Winden) = 1.167.300 - Slovenians
We can also see their numbers (population), Serbs form the majority! But this is not for whole Illyro-Serbs territories, only for yellow colored part on the map, that color on this map determines the Slavs, as you can see! So this data is only for present-day Slovenia, Croatia and the Serbian province of Vojvodina! Also you can see on this maps says Serben (Serbs) its start in Dalmatia (with letter ''s'') goes over present-day Bosnia and Herzegovina and Serbia and ends in Vojvodina (with letter ''n'')! Where the Croats on the map ? Only in the small parts of todays Croatia its says on the map Chorwaten (Kroaten)!
So what this map shows! The map shows that the Croats are Slavs definitely, that Croats, Slovenians, Bosnians , Montenegrins, Macedonians are Serbs originating, that Illyrians is second name for Slavs and Illyria is second name for Illyrians territories , that Albanians are not Illyrians, that Dalmatia, Slavonia,Bosnia and Herzegovina, Kosovo ,Montenegro and Macedonia are Serbian lands!
Remark : this map is made by Austro-Hungarians, Serbia was an enemy of Austro-Hungarians, so they did have interest to false data on map!
P.S. 1846 on the territory of the Austro-Hungarian 475,000 Jews lived!
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Very interesting !
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The Chetniks were first formed in the 19th century during the Serbian fight for liberation from the Turks. They also played a role during the Balkan wars of 1912 and 1915, as well as during World War I. In 1904 the organization known as the "Serb Chetnik Movement" (Српски Четнички Покрет) was formed in Vranje by the Saint Sava organization, by members of the army and representatives of the ministry of foreign affairs, among whom was Milorad Gođevac, Vasa Jovanović, Luka Ćelović and General Jovan Atanacković. The aim of the movement was liberation of Old Serbia and Macedonia. Serbia started equipping Macedonian Serb Chetniks who were in conflict with the autonomist and pro-Bulgarian Internal Macedonian Revolutionary Organization (IMRO).
In the same year of establishment, the first četa from Belgrade was led by voivode Anđelko. It perished, and Gligor Sokolović formed several detachments in and around Prilep, after meeting with Gođevac.The Serb Chetniks defeated the Bulgarians at Prilep, Kičevo, Veles and Poreč. In the summer of 1906 the Serbian Chetniks attacked the Bulgarians at Krapa.
The Macedonian Serb Chetniks from 1904 till 1908 created strongholds in Skopje and Prilep regions after several battles against the Turks and the IMRO, but could not extend their territory due to the IMRO presence in the other parts of Macedonia. The most prominent Chetniks of Macedonia were Jovan Babunski, Gligor Sokolović, Ilija Trifunović-Birčanin, Mihailo Ristić-Džervinac, Jovan Grković-Gapon, Vasilije Trbić, Garda Spasa, Borivoje Jovanović-Brana, Ilija Jovanović-Pčinjski, Jovan Stanojković-Dovezenski, Micko Krstić, Lazar Kujundžić, Cene Marković, Miša Aleksić-Marinko, Doksim Mihailović, Kosta Milovanović-Pećanac, Vojin Popović-Vuk and Savatije Milićević Milošević. After the proclamation of the Young Turk revolution in 1908 and the proclamation of the constitution, all of the brigands in Macedonia, including the Serbian Chetniks put down their weapons.
This period lasted until 1912, when the Balkan countries once again started arming guerrilla bands in Macedonia in order to help them in operations against the Ottoman Army. At the start of the Balkan wars there were 110 IMRO, 108 Greek, 30 Serbian, and 5 Vlach detachments. They fought against the Ottoman Empire in the First Balkan War, while in World War I they fought against Austria-Hungary.
In World War I bands of Chetniks fought against the Bulgarian Army and organized the Toplica Insurrection, which was quickly crushed by the Bulgarians.
After the formation of the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes (later Kingdom of Yugoslavia) and the arrival of peacetime, the Chetnik movement ceased functioning as a guerrilla force, and became a civilian organization. In 1921 the Organization of Chetniks for the Freedom and Honor of the Fatherland (Udruženje Četnika za slobodu i čast Otadžbine) was formed, and in 1924 the Organization of Serbian Chetniks for King and Fatherland (Udruženje srpskih četnika za Kralja i Otadžbinu), while the formation of the Organization of Serbian Chetniks Petar Mrkonjić (Udruženje srpskih četnika Petar Mrkonjić) also followed. These latter two merged together the following year as the Organization of Serbian Chetniks Petar Mrkonjić.
After the unitarianist King Alexander I proclaimed a dictatorship in 1929, the Organization of Serbian Chetniks Petar Mrkonjić was banned while the Organization of Chetniks for Freedom and Honour of the Fatherland was allowed to continue operating. Kosta Pećanac was the organization's leader from 1932 up to the occupation of Yugoslavia in 1941.
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But the Chetniks fought with the Nazis in WW2 against Tito and the great partisans ! :clap:
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But the Chetniks fought with the Nazis in WW2 against Tito and the great partisans ! :clap:
Komite are special guerrilla forses of serbian army !They existed before the First Balkan War as a way of fighting against the Turks in the still occupied territories of Serbia (Kosovo, Macedonia...)! They had to change its name to ''Chetniks'' because of the Bulgarian predatory unit that also broke into the present-day Macedonia and did a great atrocities on the Turks and the local population, which are also called themselves Komita! Probably deliberately used the same name in order for these crimes were blamed Serbs! This would reduce the impact of Serbia in Macedonia and is more likely to Bulgarians occupythis land after the liberation from the Turks, what ater in the Balkan wars (1912-1913), and the First World War proved to be true! Komite (Chetniks) after the Balkan Wars, entering into the composition of the regular army as Serbian special forces and after the First World War do not exist! Consequently, in the Second World War '' Yugoslav Army in the Fatherland'' or '' Ravna Gora movement" was called Chetniks''
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Tito and his partisans tied down 30 Nazi Divisions in the Balkans thats good enough for me !
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NO!NO!NO! I reject your hypothesis ! Comrade Tito was a great leader , he was in Spain in 36 fighting the fascists! >:(
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NO!NO!NO! I reject your hypothesis ! Comrade Tito was a great leader , he was in Spain in 36 fighting the fascists! >:(
Read this, Tito was in Austria-Hungary army and fight against Serbia and Slav peoples!!! Do you even know how many ameican pilots are saved by Chetniks of Draza Mihailovic!? 500 pilots! Do you know who was the first Anti-fascism resistance movement in WII?? Draza and Chetniks! Do you know how many jews draza saved??
You dont know nothing about this, so better start to ask, rather than talking about what you like to be!
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This rewriting of history sickens me ! The Chetniks fought openly with the Nazis ! >:(
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Walter Weiss (also known as Josip Broz, under the code name Tito) was a Vatican agent. He killed more Serbs than Germans did.
He sends 2 partisans in some vilage to kill one or two German solders in an ambush, and then run away. Tomorrow, Germans come to the vilage and kill 100 or 200 Serbs (the whole vilage).
That's how partisans fought against Germans.
This rewriting of history sickens me ! The Chetniks fought openly with the Nazis ! >:(
Yes, but only in the communist movies.
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This rewriting of history sickens me ! The Chetniks fought openly with the Nazis ! >:(
I don't know where from you are, and who tell all this crap but you should start to search the truth! If you want the true start with this!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHmIUERMSwE
http://www.scribd.com/doc/76374847/The-Forgotten-500 (book)
If you speak serbian than watch this!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSxy3q0el4c
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The book that accuses the Serbs and the Israelis, for ethnic cleansing!
http://www.ucpress.edu/img/covers/isbn13/9780520236578.jpg
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_Albania
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http://www.mediafire.com/?x5osy1j2uz4qkjb
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osIQTKu-_-w&feature=plcp&context=C42293c7VDvjVQa1PpcFOJlgzmy_TZzVDjqqGabCuTAUpf2mx_o0U%3D
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http://news-bar.hr/slider/sokantno-otkrice-o-podrijetlu-hrvata/
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=1on3vGmWvE8
http://www.mediafire.com/?8abhkudc0986p6t
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=oxVcT40BXY4
http://www.mediafire.com/view/?513e0wnbaa1wzag
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ax2WuPlJtfs
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OK efendi ! Perhaps i got my facts mixed up! The serbs tied down 30 kraut Divisions thats the main point!
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OK efendi ! Perhaps i got my facts mixed up! The serbs tied down 30 kraut Divisions thats the main point!
I do not understand the question? What do you want to ask?
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In defiance of the propaganda that the Serbs lost the battle of Kosovo that is not true. There are plenty of sources on this, but enough to Turkish sources to confirm the same! Also is not true that Vuk Brankovic betrayed Knez Lazar!
Serbs did not eat pork, while the Turks have occupied Serbia! The Turks took a big tax and so robbed of all the Serbian people as they could. To help the survivors, some Serbs, they begin to eat pork, knowing that the Turks would not confiscate it. Too bad this happened and the Serbs separated from the original diet that was more or less biblical, today would not have so many Serbs died of myocardia!!!
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OK efendi ! Perhaps i got my facts mixed up! The serbs tied down 30 kraut Divisions thats the main point!
That is not entirely true. It is communist propaganda. Number of those divisions is lower.
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http://www.jadovno.com/tl_files/ug_jadovno/img/otadzbinski_rat/Srebrenica%20falsifikovanje%20Istorije.pdf
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http://www.srbel.net/2012/07/07/veliki-majstor-malteskog-reda-u-poseti-rusiji/#.T_fsjbtorlo.facebook
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDkVx3p37Uc&feature=player_embedded#!
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http://dverisrpske.com/sr-CS/za-dveri-pisu/autori/marko-pejic/kako-su-srbi-nestajali-sa-kim.php
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Google translate! I don't have time to do translate, so i did this, its very clear what says in text!
Accurate statistics show the truth about the simultaneous expulsion of Serbs and the constant influx of Albanians in Kosovo and Metohija.
07/08/2012
If you want to look at the demographics and to discuss the Albanians in Kosovo as the Albanian majority and the Albanian natural or not we have to go far in the past. No need to talk about the great rulers and the empire. It is quite enough to go back to the 1871st and already we have many different picture.
In a world of paradox seems to be the capital of Serbia, although the entire west fought the communist legacy of communism, and today are the same scripture to our western friends. Although the Serbs have always fought on the west side, with huge losses in both World Wars.
Today these are the biggest enemies of his comrades, to the extent that they are nineteen of them together, and by habit again bombed Serbia to form Albania - Muslim and narco-terrorist state in Old Serbia. On the territory of Kosovo and Metohija. As the little Serbian life and property sacrificed in the fight on the side of the same in America and Europe.
As the Balkan Peninsula there since 1945. year. We have borders and provinces which are formed by the Communist authorities of former Yugoslavia, and today they are untouchable, demographic and social conditions are seen as appropriate to Albanians.
No one mentions that the Serbs in Kosovo and Metohija were in a subordinate position until the arrival of Slobodan Milosevic and a large rally at Gazimestan. Serbs in Kosovo live in fear, were harassed at every step and I will not exaggerate if I say that their lives were threatened.
Let's look at the statistics:
First - | - Albanians - | - Serbs - | - Other
1871 - | - 32% - | - 64% - | - 04%
1899 - | - 48% - | - 44% - | - 08%
1921 - | - 69% - | - 26% - | - 05%
1931 - | - 60% - | - 27% - | - 13%
1939 - | - 60% - | - 34% - | - 05%
1948 - | - 68% - | - 27% - | - 05%
1953 - | - 65% - | - 27% - | - 08%
1961 - | - 67% - | - 27% - | - 06%
1971 - | - 74% - | - 21% - | - 05%
1981 - | - 77% - | - 15% - | - 08%
1991 - | - 82% - | - 11% - | - 07%
2000 - | - 88% - | - 07% - | - 05%
2007 - | - 92% - | - 05% - | - 03%
2000 and 2007 to approximate the data.
Source: Statistical Office of Kosovo, the World Bank (2000), OSCE (2005)
During the 19th century began discrepancies in the population of Kosovo and Metohija. Some sources give a numerical advantage of the Serbs, the other Albanians. Turkey Census statistics are irrelevant because the numbered religious affiliation, not ethnic, and using the certificate.
Research Austrian physicist 1838th The Joseph Miller (Joseph Müller) has argued that the mostly Slavic Metohija, and further provides data for the three landscape units (district): Prizren, Pec and Djakovica which roughly consists of the entire territory of Metohija. The areas bordering with Albania have been most affected by the influx of Albanians. Of 195,000 inhabitants Metohija, Miller has registered:
114 000 Muslims (58%) than that
38 000 Serbs (19%)
76 000 Albanians (39%)
Christians:
73 572 Orthodox Serbs (38%)
5120 Catholic Albanians (3%)
2308 other non-Muslims (and others from Kosovo.)
Miller's results for the cities of:
Pec: Serb - 11 050, Albanians - 500
Prizren Serbs - 16.800, Albanians - 6150
Gjakova: most of the Albanians, the city is surrounded by Serbian villages.
Maps produced by the French ethnographer incompetent (G. Lejean) 1861. shows that the Albanians have lived in about 57% of today's Kosovo and Metohija, while similar map created by the British travel writers Mackenzie (Mackenzie GM) and AIRB (AP Irby) 1867. , indicates a somewhat lower surface. Both cards do not show the size of the population than just the amount of space they occupy.
Study of 1871. Austrian colonel Peter Kukulje (Peter Kukulj) for internal use by the Austro-Hungarian army shows that Mutesarifluk Prizren (corresponding largely to present-K) has 500,000 inhabitants, of which:
Serbs - 318 000 (64%)
Albanians - 161 000 (32%)
Roma and Circassians - 10,000 (0.33%)
The Turks - 2000
It is estimated that 200000-400000 Serbs expelled from Kosovo Province from 1876 to 1912, especially during the Greco - Turkish War 1897th year.
Maps published by the German historians Kipert Heinrich (Heinrich Kiepert), Han (J. Hahn) and the Austrian consul Saks (K. Sax) 1876. show that the majority of Albanians living in the territory of today's province, but they do not show the population but only the surface.
According to these maps, regions of Kosovska Mitrovica, Kosovo Polje were settled predominantly by Serbs, while most of the territory to the west and east of the present province of inhabited Islamized Albanians.
The ethnic composition of Kosovo vilayet and Pljevlja sandžak the Austrian statistics published in Vienna 1899th year:
Albanians - 182 650 (47.88%)
Serbs - 166 700 (43.7%)
Other (Cincari, Circassians, Turks, Roma and Jews) - (8.42%)
20th Century
British journalist Henri Breilsford (Henry Brailsford) estimated that two thirds of Kosovo-Metohija's population are Albanians, Serbs and the rest. For the most populated area of Djakovica and Pec reported to have between 20,000 and 25,000 Albanian households, according to the 5000 Serbian. Site Stedi Alfred (Alfred Stead) from 1909. shows that a similar number of Serbs and Albanians living in Kosovo and Metohija.
German scholar Gustav Vajgand (Gustav Weigand) gives the following statistics for Kosovo and Metohija, based on pre-war situation before 1912th year:
Pristina region: Albanians - 67%, Serbs - 30%
Prizren region: Albanians - 63%, Serbs - 36%
area Vučitrn: Albanians - 90%, Serbs - 10%
Uroševac area: Albanians - 70%, Serbs - 30%
Gnjilane region: Albanians - 75%, Serbs - 23%
area of Kosovska Mitrovica: Serbs - 60%, 40% of Albanians
Metohija with the town of Djakovica is moreover defined as purely Albanian territory by Vajgand.
The population structure has changed a lot in the 20 century. SASA and its prominent member of Vaso Cubrilovic, a document prepared for the exodus of Albanians as the removal of Albanians, which was in accordance with the then population exchanges that took place in the Balkans.
Due to the complex political situation, the area of Kosovo and Metohija was the target of the settlement of Albanians or Serbs, with the aim of Kosovo and Metohija integrated into the Albanian or Serbian society and thus become an integral part of one of these states.
Colonization during the 20th century is divided into three main periods:
Colonization of Kosovo and Metohija in the Kingdom of the settlement means, first of all Serbs and Montenegrins from the backward areas of the Kingdom of Yugoslavia in the period 1919-1941. years. (60.000-65.000)
Colonization of Kosovo and Metohija during the Second World War means bringing Albanians from Albania to Kosovo and Metohija. (150.000-200.000)
The colonization of Kosovo in Yugoslavia Albanian population includes immigrants from Albania. (1948 to 1956. Years - 40,000)
As we see from the above-attached, abduction of Kosovo and Metohija from Serbia of today is not the idea, but the Serbs systematically suppress the entire space of two centuries, while in fact the Communists who have excelled in Albania caused between 150,000 and 200,000 people during the Second World War until after the war has settled about 40,000. Serbs have died in wars while the Albanians settled.
The roots of the mafia state of Kosovo
The roots and beginnings to create a mafia state by Shiptar drug cartels is a project that lasts for a long time, which is cleverly wrapped in the flag of Brotherhood and Unity. For the strong Serbian never even today was not the interest of the West and a large share in this vision and this nation has faith, ie. The Catholic church that Croats and even seen as a criminal NDH and its Serbs, Orthodox Christians always as opponents.
In the Orthodox world there protivreža Serbs would now be much more. In the near future, a good example of bombing Serbia in 1999. when Russia was treacherous regime headed by Yeltsin and Russia, which is considerably weakened and dropped to his knees.
Analysis leave readers, this is just one of many examples that if you make the passage from the text he finds solutions that can be completely different meaning and history of the conflict in Kosovo and Metoviji begins long before the 1981st year. So this is just another fact in favor of the thesis that the Serbs as a nation systematically destroyed for a long time.
In the area of Kosovo and Metohija in 1871 were 64% Serbian stranovništva while today we have only 5%, we have suffered systematic genocide by the Croats to the Serbs than 1,600,000 today we have about 200,000. These are facts that we must not forget that we need to introduce our children to not be passed again through our ordeal, and to save as a nation. Because it is much easier to keep if you know who your enemy.
Marko Pejic
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awesome topic, so many docs and informations.
Thanks for your effort Crnitrn
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Thx
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@Ja sam Pravoslavna Srpkinja. Ne znam koliko stotina knjiga sam procitala u zivotu. Pisac koji je ostavio najsnazniji utisak na mene i sa 18 i sa 50 je bio Stefan Zweig. I, pre nekoliko godina utvrdim da je on Jevrej. Drugi koji me odusevio je bio Jerome David Salinger (cudo, isto Jevrej) i onda napravim spisak svih ljudi koji su me fascinirali i utvrdim da su vecina – Jevreji. Maja Pliseckaja, najveca balerina svih vremena – Jevrejka. Noam Chomsky,najveci zivi filozof, covek kom je sve jasno.Paul Ehrlich, Nobelovac – 606 puta iznova zapoceo eksperiment da otkrije koja koncentracija zive ubija spirohetu, izazivaca sifilisa, a ne ubija coveka. Otkrio lek Neosalvarzan. Rosalind Franklin, isto Jevrejka – nista Watson i Crick ne bi uradili bez nje.Carl Sagan, prvi je poceo popularnu pretstavu o Svemiru. Abraham Maslow, psiholog, stvorio piramidu ljudskih potreba, a kao dete bio jedini u razredu okruzem katolicima i svako jutro osecao ‘utrobni strah za zivot’ kad udje u ucionicu.Jerzy Kosiński, Jevrej, i njegova knjiga Obojena ptica – nista strasnije nisam procitala o patnjama jevrejskog deteta za vreme II S.R. …Baruch de Spinoza, Jevrej, folozof egzistencijalizma, cija porodica je pobegla u Holandiju od inkvizicije i lomaca u Spaniji.( koji kaze :“Sve sto je uzviseno, koliko je tesko toliko je i retko.“).Erik Bernstein, osnivac transakcione analize ( koji kaze :“svima nama u zivotu treba samo bliskost i neznost“)…. Ivo Andric u prici ‘Deca’ opisuje svakodnevno zlostavljanje malog cifutina od strane pravoslavne, katolicke i muslimanske dece pre stotinjak godina u Sarajevu. …Prof. Leon Koen, svaki dan na svakom mestu na sve nacine brani Srbe kao da su Jevreji. Beogradski rabin Isak Asiel je u uniformi vojske Srbije branio zemlju tokom NATO bombardovanja…Svi Izraelci koje sa upoznala na internetu se odnose prema meni sa krajnjom toplinom i srdacnoscu – kao da se oduvek znamo.Jedna Izraelka mi je na svoju inicijativu, poslala drveni krst iz Vitlejema.@
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У недељу је, у емисији "Nedjeljom u 2" водећи хрватски историчар, др Твртко Јаковина признао да су Срби 1918. спасили Хрвате и да Хрватска није ушла у прву Југославију да данас не би постојала. Јаковина каже да је 1915. Србима било понуђено да узму Славонију, БиХ, Лику и део Далмације и створе српску државу. Истра и други део Далмације био је обећан Италији. Оно мало Хрватске, тзв, регија Хрватска (Загорје и око Загреба) требала је остати у склопу Мађарске.
Да је Србија тада пристала, данас би тзв. Хрвати из Загреба и Загорја били Мађарска провинција и реликт прошлости, а остатак католичког становништва из Далмације, Славоније, Лике и БиХ би био оно што у ствари и јесу - Срби католици.
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http://www.rastko.rs/kosovo/istorija/sanu/old-serbia.html
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У недељу је, у емисији "Nedjeljom u 2" водећи хрватски историчар, др Твртко Јаковина признао да су Срби 1918. спасили Хрвате и да Хрватска није ушла у прву Југославију да данас не би постојала. Јаковина каже да је 1915. Србима било понуђено да узму Славонију, БиХ, Лику и део Далмације и створе српску државу. Истра и други део Далмације био је обећан Италији. Оно мало Хрватске, тзв, регија Хрватска (Загорје и око Загреба) требала је остати у склопу Мађарске.
Да је Србија тада пристала, данас би тзв. Хрвати из Загреба и Загорја били Мађарска провинција и реликт прошлости, а остатак католичког становништва из Далмације, Славоније, Лике и БиХ би био оно што у ствари и јесу - Срби католици.
Мене не занима што су Хрвати -Срби католици. Они ће то увек да негирају, а и шта ће нам такви какви су, Погледај колики је број муслимана у Хрватској који се називају Хрватима. Ето то су данашњи Хрвати-покатоличени Срби, затим муслимани који улазе у бројку Хрватског становништва и они са неким чудним презименима.
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Strasno i uzasno...
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Ti uvek postavis super dokumentaciju..
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Ti uvek postavis super dokumentaciju..
Hvala!
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http://www.medio.rs/vesti/srbija/drustvo/skandal-crkvu-u-kojoj-se-pricestio-knez-lazar-albanci-pretvorili-u-toalet-i-deponiju_86727.html
http://srbin.info/2013/12/23/vatikan-hrvati-i-hrvatska-cinjenice-koje-se-ne-uce-u/