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Save Western Civilization => Save Serbia => Topic started by: Super Mentalita on August 26, 2014, 10:33:50 AM
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http://www.b92.net/eng/news/region.php?yyyy=2014&mm=08&dd=26&nav_id=91411
BELGRADE - Albanian Prime Minister Edi Rama will pay an official visit to Serbia in September, the Belgrade-based daily Danas has reported.
It will be the first time an Albanian high official has come to Belgrade in the past 70 years, added the paper.
Quoting Rama's cabinet, the artilce said that the invitation for the visit sent by Serbian Prime Minister Aleksandar Vučić had arrived in Tirana and that the only task left to tackle now is set the exact date of the visit.
The daily says that Rama was supposed to visit Belgrade six months ago but the visit was delayed as early parliamentary elections were called in Serbia in March.
Rama will be the first Albanian prime minister to visit Serbia in the past seven decades. The last Albanian prime minister to visit Belgrade was Enver Hoxha who visited Serbia in 1947 as the guest of Yugoslav President Josip Broz Tito.
In a recent interview for Danas, Rama said that "the most important topic for the talks with the Belgrade government is the analysis of the region as a joint market," adding that "a potential problem which may arise during the talks may lie in the diverging opinions concerning the Kosovo issue in Belgrade and Tirana."
“The Albanian government will not advocate any paternalist attitude concerning Kosovo. We see Kosovo as a country equal to all other countries in the region. When we touch on this matter in the talks with Belgrade, we will insist on Kosovo being treated as a separate subject, which it in fact is. In any case, there is no reason for Albania to speak on behalf of Kosovo,” Rama said.
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Serbian minority is awakening in Albania and we must support them anyway possible...if they want their Serbian names back they must pay around 1000 euros in tax..
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Serbian minority is awakening in Albania and we must support them anyway possible...if they want their Serbian names back they must pay around 1000 euros in tax..
What I like is that there are ethnic Serbian political parties almost everywhere in the Balkans. Not in Albania, because there are only 2.000 Serbs there, but everywhere else. I found a list of all of them. Now of course, I hate leftism, but this is a list of all ethnic Serbian parties (including the ones which no one here would support):
FYROM
Radical Party of the Serbs in Macedonia
Democratic Party of Serbs in Macedonia
Serbian Progressive Party in Macedonia
Albanian-occupied Kosovo
Civic Initiative Serbia
Independent Liberal Party
New Democracy
Serb Democratic Party of Kosovo and Metohija
Serb Kosovo-Metohija Party
Serbian List for Kosovo and Metohija
Serb People's Party
Serbian Social Democratic Party
Union of Independent Social Democrats of Kosovo and Metohija
United Serbian List
Bosnia and Republika Srpska
Alliance of Independent Social Democrats
Serbian Democratic Party
Democratic People's Alliance
Party of Democratic Progress
Croatia and Krajina
Independent Democratic Serb Party
Serb Democratic Party
Serb People's Party
Montenegro
New Serb Democracy
Party of Serb Radicals
This proves that Serbs know how to fight for their interests.
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I was quit surprised when i travelled Bosnia for the first time how many towns are part of Republika Srpska. Like in Banja Luka, 95% is Serb and they only have a tiny muslim population. You don't see any Bosnian flags flying in Banja Luka unlike the Serbian flags you see everywhere.
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About Kosovo: It's pointless to speak with Albanians about Kosovo. Ofcourse they see Kosovo as a independent state full of mosq's. They don't give a damn about the Serb and their Churches that have been tortured through the years.
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About Kosovo: It's pointless to speak with Albanians about Kosovo. Ofcourse they see Kosovo as a independent state full of mosq's. They don't give a damn about the Serb and their Churches that have been tortured through the years.
Hypocritically many Albanians want Kosovo to be part of Albania, so the "independence" part is a lie.
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What I like is that there are ethnic Serbian political parties almost everywhere in the Balkans. Not in Albania, because there are only 2.000 Serbs there, but everywhere else. I found a list of all of them. Now of course, I hate leftism, but this is a list of all ethnic Serbian parties (including the ones which no one here would support):
FYROM
Radical Party of the Serbs in Macedonia
Democratic Party of Serbs in Macedonia
Serbian Progressive Party in Macedonia
Albanian-occupied Kosovo
Civic Initiative Serbia
Independent Liberal Party
New Democracy
Serb Democratic Party of Kosovo and Metohija
Serb Kosovo-Metohija Party
Serbian List for Kosovo and Metohija
Serb People's Party
Serbian Social Democratic Party
Union of Independent Social Democrats of Kosovo and Metohija
United Serbian List
Bosnia and Republika Srpska
Alliance of Independent Social Democrats
Serbian Democratic Party
Democratic People's Alliance
Party of Democratic Progress
Croatia and Krajina
Independent Democratic Serb Party
Serb Democratic Party
Serb People's Party
Montenegro
New Serb Democracy
Party of Serb Radicals
This proves that Serbs know how to fight for their interests.
There are at least 40,000 Serbs there...awekening started when a tv crew from Republika Srpska visited these people several years ago, Bn television is very patriotic..now they built a new church and have Serbian learning classes..just to say that majority of that country was historically ours..
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There are at least 40,000 Serbs there...awekening started when a tv crew from Republika Srpska visited these people several years ago, Bn television is very patriotic..now they built a new church and have Serbian learning classes..just to say that majority of that country was historically ours..
I'm just curious, is Milorad Dodik sympathetic to Chetniks or Partisans? If he is a Chetnik, then he should be an ally; as he supports Israel.
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There are at least 40,000 Serbs there...awekening started when a tv crew from Republika Srpska visited these people several years ago, Bn television is very patriotic..now they built a new church and have Serbian learning classes..just to say that majority of that country was historically ours..
It's unfortunate that the Srpska Radikalna Stranka supports "Palestine", the Srpska Radikalna Stranka Republike Srpske supports the EU, and Savez Nezavisnih Socijaldemokrata is socialist, but perhaps the Srpska Demokratska Stranka Republike Srpske is different?
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I'm just curious, is Milorad Dodik sympathetic to Chetniks or Partisans? If he is a Chetnik, then he should be an ally; as he supports Israel.
I believe he is from Partizan background as that area of the country was more pro Partizan, but I believe he supports both. He was really hated by chetniks as he was an American asset early on but he drastically shifted away once they got him into power. Anyhow, he was very very wealthy during Socialism which makes me think his family must have been in bed with communists. Now he is pro chetnik and pro partizan because this division is seen as great evil. Srpska Radikalna Stranka Republika Srpska supported Israel recently and they god some bad comments from Srpska Radikalna Stranka from Serbia. It was really funny division. Just to say that majority of Radikals are pro Jewish. I guess Sheshelj decided to go against Israeli state because they are in bed with America and he hates America the most although early in his political career he traveled there and was given some money by American Serbs.
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I believe he is from Partizan background as that area of the country was more pro Partizan, but I believe he supports both. He was really hated by chetniks as he was an American asset early on but he drastically shifted away once they got him into power. Anyhow, he was very very wealthy during Socialism which makes me think his family must have been in bed with communists. Now he is pro chetnik and pro partizan because this division is seen as great evil. Srpska Radikalna Stranka Republika Srpska supported Israel recently and they god some bad comments from Srpska Radikalna Stranka from Serbia. It was really funny division. Just to say that majority of Radikals are pro Jewish. I guess Sheshelj decided to go against Israeli state because they are in bed with America and he hates America the most although early in his political career he traveled there and was given some money by American Serbs.
Many Ukrainians think the same. It's just not "cool" to support anything American. These are just stupid apes who can't separate a country from its government. It's great that Srpska Radikalna Stranka Republika Srpska supports Israel, I did some searches and couldn't find anything for it- it just upsetting they're pro-EU, which true Serbian nationalists would be against. It's also good that Dodik is a nationalist, even though he's a leftist-nationalist, he still doesn't want immigrants, he wants Serbian self-determination, etc.
I also saw a certain "Chetnik Zionist" on YouTube praising him:
https://www.youtube.com/user/ChetnikZionist
Which makes me feel better about him.
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Many Ukrainians think the same. It's just not "cool" to support anything American. These are just stupid apes who can't separate a country from its government. It's great that Srpska Radikalna Stranka Republika Srpska supports Israel, I did some searches and couldn't find anything for it- it just upsetting they're pro-EU, which true Serbian nationalists would be against. It's also good that Dodik is a nationalist, even though he's a leftist-nationalist, he still doesn't want immigrants, he wants Serbian self-determination, etc.
I also saw a certain "Chetnik Zionist" on YouTube praising him:
https://www.youtube.com/user/ChetnikZionist
Which makes me feel better about him.
A few weeks ago some Serbian politicians from Bosnia (Republika Srpska) annouchend that they support Israel in their struggle. The people ive met in Serbia (Belgrade) and in Bosnia (Republika Srpska, Banja Luka) were all very pro-Israel and anti-Islam.
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A few weeks ago some Serbian politicians from Bosnia (Republika Srpska) annouchend that they support Israel in their struggle. The people ive met in Serbia (Belgrade) and in Bosnia (Republika Srpska, Banja Luka) were all very pro-Israel and anti-Islam.
Which ones? I'm curious. I hope that the Demokratska Stranka Republike Srpske supports Israel because they're right-wing nationalists, anti-EU, and anti-globalist.
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Which ones? I'm curious. I hope that the Demokratska Stranka Republike Srpske supports Israel because they're right-wing nationalists, anti-EU, and anti-globalist.
Just see your post. Sorry. Here i will send you the link from some weeks ago:
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/182911#.VA97hfDtiuY
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Just see your post. Sorry. Here i will send you the link from some weeks ago:
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/182911#.VA97hfDtiuY
But that's not the Radicals, that's the Social Democrats.
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Vast majority of Albanians in Albania are albanised Serbs (in north) and albanised Greeks (in south).
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Vast majority of Albanians in Albania are albanised Serbs (in north) and albanised Greeks (in south).
Are there any who aren't?
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About 40% of Albanians in total are real Albanians, that came from Caucasus. About 15% of citizens of Albania are real Albanians. Rest are albanised Serbs and Greeks. About 77% of Albanians in south Albania are in fact of Greek origin.
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About 40% of Albanians in total are real Albanians, that came from Caucasus. About 15% of citizens of Albania are real Albanians. Rest are albanised Serbs and Greeks. About 77% of Albanians in south Albania are in fact of Greek origin.
Is there any particular region that's actually Albanian? Also, are Montenegrins genetically pure Serbs (straight from the original migration)?
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Central Albania is where most of real Albanians are concentrated. About Kosovo and Metohija, I don't know.
Albanians came from Caucasus. They are cattleman. Nobody wanted to accept them, so we did. We give them land for free (not territory, to avoid confusion) so they can breed the cattle and pay Serbia taxes. Almost all of todays Albania (like 98% or so), whole Macedonia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Montenegro, about 80% of Croatia, about 95% of Greece and the whole Bulgaria where all part of Serbian empire. There is no Albanian land in the Balkans.
Montenegrins are 100% Serbs, yes. It is a geographical term for Serbs living in the Montenegro. In todays Serbia, we still have those terms (unfortunately), like Vojvođanin (Serb that lives in the Vojvodina - noth Serbia), Šumadinac (Serb that lives in Šumadia part of Serbia), Moravac (Serb that lives in the Morava river region), and so on.
Vatican took advantage of that, and after "communist" occupation of Yugoslavia, Tito created artificial nations from Serbs. Like Montenegrins, Macedonians (which are not 100% Serbs, but rather mixed with Bulgarians, and what do I know with whom more), Bosnians (Serbs of islamic religion that live in Bosnia), and so on.
Now, Vatican is pushing creation of Vojvođana as a nation. In order to diminish the number of Serbs. And so on...
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Central Albania is where most of real Albanians are concentrated. About Kosovo and Metohija, I don't know.
Albanians came from Caucasus. They are cattleman. Nobody wanted to accept them, so we did. We give them land for free (not territory, to avoid confusion) so they can breed the cattle and pay Serbia taxes. Almost all of todays Albania (like 98% or so), whole Macedonia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Montenegro, about 80% of Croatia, about 95% of Greece and the whole Bulgaria where all part of Serbian empire. There is no Albanian land in the Balkans.
Montenegrins are 100% Serbs, yes. It is a geographical term for Serbs living in the Montenegro. In todays Serbia, we still have those terms (unfortunately), like Vojvođanin (Serb that lives in the Vojvodina - noth Serbia), Šumadinac (Serb that lives in Šumadia part of Serbia), Moravac (Serb that lives in the Morava river region), and so on.
Vatican took advantage of that, and after "communist" occupation of Yugoslavia, Tito created artificial nations from Serbs. Like Montenegrins, Macedonians (which are not 100% Serbs, but rather mixed with Bulgarians, and what do I know with whom more), Bosnians (Serbs of islamic religion that live in Bosnia), and so on.
Now, Vatican is pushing creation of Vojvođana as a nation. In order to diminish the number of Serbs. And so on...
There still are self-indentifying Serbs in FYROM. But as far as I can see Serbs and Greeks are friends and both say that FYROM is an artificial nation and that ancient Macedonians were Hellenic and not Slavic.
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Albanian Prime Minister:
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-e3y8IAFerF8/VEKwNSeI1cI/AAAAAAAADcE/ubLepNCpoFA/s1600/10%D1%85.jpg)
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A nation with a degenerate who has appeared nude in public is the epitome of "third world".
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I don't really think about the Albanians. Their only success against the Serbs was with 100% Nato power involved in conflict at height of American power in 1999 when this country was swimming in pool of money. This was aimed at Russia rather than Serbia and to scare other smaller Slavic nations in submission. Even with Serbia completely destroyed financially the Albanians don't stand any chance if war is to come between the two. Yes, they are in advantage in Kosovo but any geopolitical change would mean complete destruction for them. All I worry about is that we, Slavic brothers, are at war each other. We act like hungry dog's waiting for German master to throw the bone. We are about 400 million strong as we share language, culture, cuisine, ancient history, genetics, and hospitality. Why serve the bloody Germans? I can't understand those Ukrainian soldiers wearing symbols of German nation. Why? Why would any Slav wear anything related to bloody Germans?
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I don't really think about the Albanians. Their only success against the Serbs was with 100% Nato power involved in conflict at height of American power in 1999 when this country was swimming in pool of money. This was aimed at Russia rather than Serbia and to scare other smaller Slavic nations in submission. Even with Serbia completely destroyed financially the Albanians don't stand any chance if war is to come between the two. Yes, they are in advantage in Kosovo but any geopolitical change would mean complete destruction for them. All I worry about is that we, Slavic brothers, are at war each other. We act like hungry dog's waiting for German master to throw the bone. We are about 400 million strong as we share language, culture, cuisine, ancient history, genetics, and hospitality. Why serve the bloody Germans? I can't understand those Ukrainian soldiers wearing symbols of German nation. Why? Why would any Slav wear anything related to bloody Germans?
Tyahnybok promises the easily manipulated masses anything they want. After living in the shadow of Russia for their entire lives, many західні (westerners) will support whatever is the most anti-Russian, even if it means their complete submission to globalism and homosexual agendas of the EUSSR. Here in L'viv many are more educated- but as a result we are seeing some degenerate yuppie types emerging because of the influence of the West. Those are the most hardcore Poroshenko voters. I already went through a day this past May where the city was encouraged to speak Russian for the day in a show of support for the population of Crimea and Donbas to turn them against the separatists. I and many other young people didn't participate- many here don't speak Russian. Nevertheless, the idea incensed the Swoboda voters. Yet they brought it on themselves by aligning with those who promoted it. I was happy with Euromaidan for removing the corrupt and some of the oligarchs, and I believe that many of the separatists are terrorists who must be stopped. Yet I have now come to support the idea of Novorossia, because it will restore peace to my country and end the language war as well as the military war. Of course as I'm Jewish there is some pressure for me to keep quiet about this fact, because it certainly wouldn't do anything good for fellow Jews.
Also, as far as Germans go, there are some German Slavophiles- Constantin von Hoffmeister being a good example.
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Tyahnybok promises the easily manipulated masses anything they want. After living in the shadow of Russia for their entire lives, many західні (westerners) will support whatever is the most anti-Russian, even if it means their complete submission to globalism and homosexual agendas of the EUSSR. Here in L'viv many are more educated- but as a result we are seeing some degenerate yuppie types emerging because of the influence of the West. Those are the most hardcore Poroshenko voters. I already went through a day this past May where the city was encouraged to speak Russian for the day in a show of support for the population of Crimea and Donbas to turn them against the separatists. I and many other young people didn't participate- many here don't speak Russian. Nevertheless, the idea incensed the Swoboda voters. Yet they brought it on themselves by aligning with those who promoted it. I was happy with Euromaidan for removing the corrupt and some of the oligarchs, and I believe that many of the separatists are terrorists who must be stopped. Yet I have now come to support the idea of Novorossia, because it will restore peace to my country and end the language war as well as the military war. Of course as I'm Jewish there is some pressure for me to keep quiet about this fact, because it certainly wouldn't do anything good for fellow Jews.
Also, as far as Germans go, there are some German Slavophiles- Constantin von Hoffmeister being a good example.
I exchanged a few words with one of my former coworkers who is from central Ukraine and speaks only Russian. I can remember that he was pro Russian before but now he tells me how he hates Russia and how they need to stop killing people. Well, I know little more about the war there so I told from my experience how events are going to unfold in CIVIL WAR. Anyhow, my personal opinion is that Putin made horrible mistake there. Pro-Russian Party of Regions was the strongest party in the country for many years which leads me to think how majority of voters were in fact pro Russian. Now we have many Russian speaking Ukrainians turning against influence of Russia. Of course by taking Crimea, which was a set up by the west, Putin hurt national pride of many who looked favorably towards him. He also turned many Serbs away by comparing situation with Kosovo where Russians totally failed to intervene to come back years after and use situation to grab Crimea. Not everyone is naive and falls to Russian propaganda which is stronger and stronger every day. In fact the Ukrainians and the Serbs are both collateral damage in war between Russian and Nato. It not an open war yet however.
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I exchanged a few words with one of my former coworkers who is from central Ukraine and speaks only Russian. I can remember that he was pro Russian before but now he tells me how he hates Russia and how they need to stop killing people. Well, I know little more about the war there so I told from my experience how events are going to unfold in CIVIL WAR. Anyhow, my personal opinion is that Putin made horrible mistake there. Pro-Russian Party of Regions was the strongest party in the country for many years which leads me to think how majority of voters were in fact pro Russian. Now we have many Russian speaking Ukrainians turning against influence of Russia. Of course by taking Crimea, which was a set up by the west, Putin hurt national pride of many who looked favorably towards him. He also turned many Serbs away by comparing situation with Kosovo where Russians totally failed to intervene to come back years after and use situation to grab Crimea. Not everyone is naive and falls to Russian propaganda which is stronger and stronger every day. In fact the Ukrainians and the Serbs are both collateral damage in war between Russian and Nato. It not an open war yet however.
Yanukovych even had some support among Ukrainian-speakers in Chernivci and Zakarpattja oblasts, even in the north of Žytomyr, Rivne, and Volyn, because many of these agricultural areas favored leftist economic policies. But once Putin got involved, and proposed Russian as an official language, it was destroyed.
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Ukrainian is very similar to Serbian ....i was just watching on YouTube...Russians say "ponjemajesh" while the Serbs say razumijesh...also words brat, sestra, tata, mama are the same when speaking: brate, sestro.. Or Serbs use words dobro i lose, or grammar like "ja tebe ne razumijem". Anyhow, when millions speak Russian it should be an official language there..
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Funny part is that the Serbs use same word as in Polish for good buy-dovidjenja..
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Ukrainian is very similar to Serbian ....i was just watching on YouTube...Russians say "ponjemajesh" while the Serbs say razumijesh...also words brat, sestra, tata, mama are the same when speaking: brate, sestro.. Or Serbs use words dobro i lose, or grammar like "ja tebe ne razumijem". Anyhow, when millions speak Russian it should be an official language there..
I'am learning Serbian for a while now. I'am planning to move to Bulgaria (Sofia) for a job. Do you know in how far i can use the Serbian language in Bulgaria and if the langauge is similar?
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I'am learning Serbian for a while now. I'am planning to move to Bulgaria (Sofia) for a job. Do you know in how far i can use the Serbian language in Bulgaria and if the langauge is similar?
I understand everything when Bulgarians talk. But their accent is little different and as a native speaker for me it is not really hard to understand. For you it might be little harder but as I said languages are almost identical. Bulgars are mix between the Serbs and old Bulgars but they adopted our language. Next in line are Macedonian, Slovenian, and Ukrainian that are the most similar to Serbian. Modern Croatian is identical, but there are some parts that speak old Croatian accent which has been very hard to pick up for me so far.
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I understand everything when Bulgarians talk. But their accent is little different and as a native speaker for me it is not really hard to understand. For you it might be little harder but as I said languages are almost identical. Bulgars are mix between the Serbs and old Bulgars but they adopted our language. Next in line are Macedonian, Slovenian, and Ukrainian that are the most similar to Serbian. Modern Croatian is identical, but there are some parts that speak old Croatian accent which has been very hard to pick up for me so far.
What's the Serbian position on "Macedonia"? I'm curious. Do Serbs side with Greeks?
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What's the Serbian position on "Macedonia"? I'm curious. Do Serbs side with Greeks?
Serbs are realy close with the Greeks and the other way around.
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What's the Serbian position on "Macedonia"? I'm curious. Do Serbs side with Greeks?
Well, I spoke with two Macedonians in my life and we did not have any problem to communicate. Greeks have problem with name Macedonia and consider this country to be theirs. The people there, with exception to Albanians in Macedonia, speak Serbian or Serbian/Bulgarian variation/accent. We have a great relationship with Greeks but I personally do not like the way they treat them. Naturally, people tend to support those who speak their language over some more distant group.
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Funny part is that the Serbs use same word as in Polish for good buy-dovidjenja..
Meant to say good bye...
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The whole Greece and Macedonia used to be part of Serbian empire. Serbian Czar was officially "Czar of Serbs and Greeks".
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Well, I spoke with two Macedonians in my life and we did not have any problem to communicate. Greeks have problem with name Macedonia and consider this country to be theirs. The people there, with exception to Albanians in Macedonia, speak Serbian or Serbian/Bulgarian variation/accent. We have a great relationship with Greeks but I personally do not like the way they treat them. Naturally, people tend to support those who speak their language over some more distant group.
It's shocking how many muslims living in Macedonia. I believe it's about 35%, and Bosnia i believe 50% of the population.
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It's shocking how many muslims living in Macedonia. I believe it's about 35%, and Bosnia i believe 50% of the population.
I know that Orthodox and Catholic Christians outnumber muslims for now but trand is for Christians to emigrate constantly. Macedonia is about to fall apart as Albanians are organized politically and militarily. My prediction is that if things go in that direction we going to see Greeks and Bulgarians jump into fight.
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I know that Orthodox and Catholic Christians outnumber muslims for now but trand is for Christians to emigrate constantly. Macedonia is about to fall apart as Albanians are organized politically and militarily. My prediction is that if things go in that direction we going to see Greeks and Bulgarians jump into fight.
Why would Orthodox Greeks fight Orthodox Bulgarians?
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I know that Orthodox and Catholic Christians outnumber muslims for now but trand is for Christians to emigrate constantly. Macedonia is about to fall apart as Albanians are organized politically and militarily. My prediction is that if things go in that direction we going to see Greeks and Bulgarians jump into fight.
Or do you mean the fight against Albania?
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Or do you mean the fight against Albania?
Yes. Or precisely Albanian insurgents. There are armed groups patrolling the streets in Macedonia.