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The Worldwide Crisis of Islam => The Truth About Islam => Topic started by: Dexter on October 12, 2007, 05:08:06 PM
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I think Islam is a religion .
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These are the definitions of Religion:
*Generally a belief in a deity and practice of worship, action, and/or thought related to that deity. Loosely, any specific system of code of ethics, values, and belief.
*belief in a divine or superhuman power or powers to be obeyed and worshipped as the creator(s) and ruler(s) of the universe
Religion is technically a belief and muslims believe in Islam. However the way a belief is carried out or practisced determines whether or not it is abusive and similar to a cult, which also refers to more recent formings. In the case of Islam, you obviously know the answer.
An Ideology is a complex or complicated concept.
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Islam is a death cult. Islam tells people that the purpose of life is the preparation for death, after that to get other people to follow it, failing that, kill them. Death, death, death, that's the repeating theme.
Actually, most of what I learned about Islam, I learned on 9-11, after looking into it a little more, I realized that looking into it really wasn't necessary, my first impression was spot on.
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It's a religion. Certainly not a great one, but still a religion.
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It's a religion. Certainly not a great one, but still a religion.
It's a cult, it's an old cult, followed by 100's of millions, but that doesn't give it legitimacy, it is as loony tunes to me as the Jim Jones suicide cult or the Heaven's Gate cult.
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It's a religion. Certainly not a great one, but still a religion.
It's a cult, it's an old cult, followed by 100's of millions, but that doesn't give it legitimacy, it is as loony tunes to me as the Jim Jones suicide cult or the Heaven's Gate cult.
It's an evil religion, there's no doubt, but I'll say this, as will many Rabbis - if there were as many Jews in Israel davening three times a day as there are Muslim Nazis there praying five times a day, the situation would be totally different.
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Muslims pray 5 times a day .
Today there is a Muslim holiday if I'm not mistaking.
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Muslims pray 5 times a day .
Today there is a Muslim holiday if I'm not mistaking.
Yes they do. That was a typo. :-[
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As I have called it a number of times before, islam is a satanic barbaric deathcult. It does not deserve to be included in the category of 'religion'. Evil is not to be legitamized in any way, shape or form morally or ethically, especially in Judaism if I am not mistaken.
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It's a religion. It is a satanic, death-worshipping, cruel, and primeval religion. No one ever said that religions had to be sensible, peaceful, or good.
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It's a Religion... of Satan!
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It's a religion. It is a satanic, death-worshipping, cruel, and primeval religion. No one ever said that religions had to be sensible, peaceful, or good.
True, generally speaking, no known major religions do not espouse the elements islam does. Name a religion other than islam that is as bad as islam. You would not find one and cults do not count.
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It's a religion. It is a satanic, death-worshipping, cruel, and primeval religion. No one ever said that religions had to be sensible, peaceful, or good.
True, generally speaking, no known major religions do not espouse the elements islam does. Name a religion other than islam that is as bad as islam. You would not find one and cults do not count.
Yes, we know it's the worst, but that doesn't mean that it isn't a religion.
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It's a religion. It is a satanic, death-worshipping, cruel, and primeval religion. No one ever said that religions had to be sensible, peaceful, or good.
True, generally speaking, no known major religions do not espouse the elements islam does. Name a religion other than islam that is as bad as islam. You would not find one and cults do not count.
Yes, we know it's the worst, but that doesn't mean that it isn't a religion.
You regard cults as a religion?
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It meets every official definition of a cult. It's a big one, but a cult nonetheless.
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Yes.. It's a gutter religion!
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It's very hard to bung things into catergories like this. If it is a "religion", what is a religion? If it's a "cult", well, how do you define cult? etc.
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A cult is a recent formation.
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Sometimes there aren't such clear differences between religions and cults. In some sense, religions are established cults. Many religions in the beginning were cults, but they grew and became bona fide religions. Islam is a religion, its members worship and hold themselves out as Muslims openly, more than 1/6th of the world follows it, purportedly they believe in a single "God", and they have an established mode of worship. There is not a single aspect of Islam that prevents it from being a religion. If Satan worship was believed and practiced by 1/6th of the human population, it would be a religion. Practically any belief system becomes a religion if it is agreed upon by enough people, is somewhat uniform in its practice, and if they believe in supernatural powers and they have their own understanding of who the creator of the Universe and how he did it. Islam has all those aspects, cults lack a few of those aspects.
Just look up the definition of religion in the dictionary and you'll see that Islam meets every commonly accepted definition of what a religion is. Not only does it meet people's understanding of religions, it is considered worldwide as one of the "great 3 religions".
There is no need to demote Islam from the status of religion in order to disrespect or attempt to subvert it.
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Islam is a religion of piece that worship a satan, in some aspect like death penalty for apostes, exlusivness it's cult in some like establishing world conquering Caliphate. sharia law etc. it's totalitarian ideology like nazism or communism. However shoud not have legal protection the US constitution and western laws give to religions and belives becouse it's technicly speaking a religion.
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The penalty for leaving islam is death(not that every ex muslim is killed, but its still sanctioned), there isnt any other religion that sanctions death for leaving, its a cult.
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The penalty for leaving islam is death(not that every ex muslim is killed, but its still sanctioned), there isnt any other religion that sanctions death for leaving, its a cult.
There's no definition of religion that says that you must not be killed for leaving it. That's really irrelevant. Just because Islam has characteristics about it that are unique to itself, doesn't make it a cult.
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No, but in cults you are not allowed to leave, which is why people are often rescued and then must be deprogrammed. I still think it is a cult.
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It is a mass cult of death.
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what ever it is its bad for your health...if your a young boy theres a good chance your walking like John Wayne before you are 6 years old if your a girl its worse.as a teenager if your selected you can blow yur selves up at jewish checkpoints.if your middle aged you can kill your sons and daughters by doing nothing to prevent the above listed hazards.If your old,you can retire on western good grace while still preaching hatred and allowing child abuses to continue therefore CULT.
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That post of yours, decimos, reminded me of something I saw on a different forum a while back:
Let’s compare, shall we:
Cigarettes--------------------------------------Islam
Kills you slowly--------------------------------Kills you slowly, or quickly
A “no no”--------------------------------------A big “no no”
Rots your lungs-------------------------------Rots your brain
Makes you feel cool---------------------------Gives you delusional feelings of grandeur
Adds to life enjoyment-----------------------Sucks the fun out of life
Forced into it by peer pressure--------------Forced into it by a sword-wielding murderer
Increases premiums for life insurance-----Cannot obtain life insurance
Promoted by false advertising---------------Promoted by false advertising
You smell like smoke-------------------------You smell like smoke (always burning flags)
Fire hazard-------------------------------------Fire hazard
Always needs more victims------------------Always needs more victims
Camel used for advertising------------------Camel used during advertising
Used as currency in jails---------------------Uses you as currency in jails
Causes cancer---------------------------------Is a cancer
No longer allowed on planes-----------------No longer allowed on planes
You be the judge.
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That post of yours, decimos, reminded me of something I saw on a different forum a while back:Let’s compare, shall we:
Cigarettes--------------------------------------Islam
Kills you slowly--------------------------------Kills you slowly, or quickly
A “no no”--------------------------------------A big “no no”
Rots your lungs-------------------------------Rots your brain
Makes you feel cool---------------------------Gives you delusional feelings of grandeur
Adds to life enjoyment-----------------------Sucks the fun out of life
Forced into it by peer pressure--------------Forced into it by a sword-wielding murderer
Increases premiums for life insurance-----Cannot obtain life insurance
Promoted by false advertising---------------Promoted by false advertising
You smell like smoke-------------------------You smell like smoke (always burning flags)
Fire hazard-------------------------------------Fire hazard
Always needs more victims------------------Always needs more victims
Camel used for advertising------------------Camel used during advertising
Used as currency in jails---------------------Uses you as currency in jails
Causes cancer---------------------------------Is a cancer
No longer allowed on planes-----------------No longer allowed on planes
You be the judge.
That is sadly accurate, ftf
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I was just feeling very blasphemous tonight, in the mood for a moo-ham-head cartoon....yes the dreaded cartoons of blasphemy ;)
(http://defendtheheartland.com/Politics/mohammed%20head.jpg)
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I was just feeling very blasphemous tonight, in the mood for a moo-ham-head cartoon....yes the dreaded cartoons of blasphemy ;)
(http://defendtheheartland.com/Politics/mohammed%20head.jpg)
Blasphemy means insulting God, there is nothing insulting to God in the post you have just made, as far as I can see anyway.
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I voted something else. I tried to think of what else threatens a person with death if they decide to leave and all I could come up with was the mafia. So I believe that Islam is a form of organized crime.
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It's all above. :P
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I was just feeling very blasphemous tonight, in the mood for a moo-ham-head cartoon....yes the dreaded cartoons of blasphemy ;)
(http://defendtheheartland.com/Politics/mohammed%20head.jpg)
Blasphemy means insulting G-d, there is nothing insulting to G-d in the post you have just made, as far as I can see anyway.
I meant it in a sarcastic way, remember the "cartoons of blasphemy"
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Thats sick.
I think those Cartoons were horrible. They didn’t do any good.
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No what is sick are the ACTUAL beheading videos, this cartoon is FREE SPEECH, for which a dutch cartoon artist is now hiding from the 'religion of peace' after receiving death threats over a CARTOON, THAT is what is sick.
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Yeah the death threats are sick and so was the savage like response.
The cartoons were sick too, even if they were freedom of speech.
Freedom of speech, doesn't mean its something great.
I find it sick. You might not. It does not improve the situation of Islam, because it merely provokes worse things that are to be expected by the muslims. They didn’t argue any Islamic points of view either. They were pointless.
The beheading videos are not just sick but they are pure evil.
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Yeah the death threats are sick and so was the savage like response.
The cartoons were sick too, even if they were freedom of speech.
Freedom of speech, doesn't mean its something great.
I find it sick. You might not. It does not improve the situation of Islam, because it merely provokes worse things that are to be expected by the muslims. They didn’t argue any Islamic points of view either. They were pointless.
The beheading videos are not just sick but they are pure evil.
What about all of the islamic cartoons about the Jews?
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Yeah the death threats are sick and so was the savage like response.
The cartoons were sick too, even if they were freedom of speech.
Freedom of speech, doesn't mean its something great.
I find it sick. You might not. It does not improve the situation of Islam, because it merely provokes worse things that are to be expected by the muslims. They didn’t argue any Islamic points of view either. They were pointless.
The beheading videos are not just sick but they are pure evil.
What about all of the islamic cartoons about the Jews?
It's very good question epecialy that this is from Sarah. ???
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Yeah the death threats are sick and so was the savage like response.
The cartoons were sick too, even if they were freedom of speech.
Freedom of speech, doesn't mean its something great.
I find it sick. You might not. It does not improve the situation of Islam, because it merely provokes worse things that are to be expected by the muslims. They didn’t argue any Islamic points of view either. They were pointless.
The beheading videos are not just sick but they are pure evil.
What about all of the islamic cartoons about the Jews?
Those are just as bad. They represent nothing more then stupidity and jealousy from all the countries that allow these cartoons to be published.
Laughing and being entertained by hateful, spiteful, offensive cartoons.....for me, is twisted.
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I find it to be freedom of speech, there are many things I find distasteful, but I recognize the freedom to say or draw it over my distaste. This one however is called satire, I understand what the artist is trying to say here, first of all daring to show mohammad, secondly showing him at his favorite past time, beheading, except with the tables turned, and there is now a man in fear for his life for a mere drawing.
Ive emailed administration, if they feel this is offensive they are welcome to remove it.
I have seen offensive cartoons about Jews and Christians, much more than this even, yet oddly enough I didnt see one Jew or one Christian burning embassies or rioting or killing.....
If all it takes to provoke muslims to murder is a cartoon, that speaks volumes.
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Yeah the death threats are sick and so was the savage like response.
The cartoons were sick too, even if they were freedom of speech.
Freedom of speech, doesn't mean its something great.
I find it sick. You might not. It does not improve the situation of Islam, because it merely provokes worse things that are to be expected by the muslims. They didn’t argue any Islamic points of view either. They were pointless.
The beheading videos are not just sick but they are pure evil.
What about all of the islamic cartoons about the Jews?
Those are just as bad. They represent nothing more then stupidity and jealousy from all the countries that allow these cartoons to be published.
Laughing and being entertained by hateful, spiteful, offensive cartoons.....for me, is twisted.
I personally thought that the danish cartoonns simply ponted out the truth of the matter. And considering that nothing can be done about the sick cartoons that are printed in islamic countries: http://www.tomgrossmedia.com/ArabCartoons.htm I think that it represented an appropriate response.
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I find it to be freedom of speech, there are many things I find distasteful, but I recognize the freedom to say or draw it over my distaste. This one however is called satire, I understand what the artist is trying to say here, first of all daring to show mohammad, secondly showing him at his favorite past time, beheading, except with the tables turned, and there is now a man in fear for his life for a mere drawing.
Ive emailed administration, if they feel this is offensive they are welcome to remove it.
I agree 100% with Kelly on this; I still don't undurstand, I refuse to understand Why we shud be sensitive towards them in first place; O0 epecialy after seeing this: (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/index_files/TROP.jpg) :o
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I agree 100% with Kelly on this; I still don't undurstand, I refuse to understand Why we shud be sensitive towards them in first place; epecialy after seeing this:
Thanks ultra!
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The cartoons were of Muhammed……..muslims live their lives by his teachings, they found it extremely offensive in this sense. There aren‘t cartoons in the Islamic world which would show Jesus or Abraham -prophets which people follow- in a horrible way, since they believe in them as well.. Their response was like that of cave men savages.
Responding to insulting cartoons by muslim morons, with more insulting cartoons that would encourage even MORE foul cartoons about Jews and Christians to be published by even MORE muslim morons. Is this really that thoughtful ftf?
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Cartoons such as this are important because it is not a secret that muslims are trying to make it "illegal" to insult their "prophet" (and no one but muslims accept him as such), some islamic countries even brought the issue up at the UN. This is a slipery slope, we are already seeing evidence of this here, with that young man being charged with a "hate crime" for putting a koran in the toilet, it is not illegal to deface a book, as long as you own the book, if it were a bible there would have been no crime (as it should be with any religious book) In the US freedom of religion also means freedom FROM religion, we have no official religion here, nor does holland, yet muslims want "special treatment" for their sensitivities, it cant be allowed.
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No it shouldn't be allowed but it doesn't take a cartoon to do this, it should be from the courage and strength of governments themselves!
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Unfortuantly groups like cair are chipping away freedoms and looking to install sharia ....one of the goals is to silence any critisism or parody of islam, that is against our constitution, however they are finding ways around it.
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Unfortuantly groups like cair are chipping away freedoms and looking to install sharia ....one of the goals is to silence any critisism or parody of islam, that is against our constitution, however they are finding ways around it.
I agree with you 110% Kelly. I thought that the cartoon was fabulous. Perhaps you can find more to post? I think these cartoons need to be plastered up all over the Western World to discourage Mooslims from immigrating. Funny, I don't think they can do any harm since in all of those despotic toilets, called countries, which make up the Mooslim world have daily anti-Israel,Jew,Christian,West cartoons, movies, "news" articles and other propaganda which there is absolutely no voice of condemnation by the "tolerant" but silent Mooslims.
Funny, posting the cartoons which depict the realities of Islam is somehow "offensive"....imagine that?
Heritage Foundation video/audio archive:
http://www.heritage.org/Press/Events/archive.cfm
The Truth About Muhammed
Streaming video:
http://multimedia.heritage.org/content/wm/Allison-111406.wvx
Streaming audio:
http://multimedia.heritage.org/mp3/Allison-111406.m3u
Download MP3:
http://multimedia.heritage.org/mp3/Allison-111406.mp3
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Unfortuantly groups like cair are chipping away freedoms and looking to install sharia ....one of the goals is to silence any critisism or parody of islam, that is against our constitution, however they are finding ways around it.
I agree with you 110% Kelly. I thought that the cartoon was fabulous. Perhaps you can find more to post? I think these cartoons need to be plastered up all over the Western World to discourage Mooslims from immigrating. Funny, I don't think they can do any harm since in all of those despotic toilets, called countries, which make up the Mooslim world have daily anti-Israel,Jew,Christian,West cartoons, movies, "news" articles and other propaganda which there is absolutely no voice of condemnation by the "tolerant" but silent Mooslims.
Funny, posting the cartoons which depict the realities of Islam is somehow "offensive"....imagine that?
Heritage Foundation video/audio archive:
http://www.heritage.org/Press/Events/archive.cfm
The Truth About Muhammed
Streaming video:
http://multimedia.heritage.org/content/wm/Allison-111406.wvx
Streaming audio:
http://multimedia.heritage.org/mp3/Allison-111406.m3u
Download MP3:
http://multimedia.heritage.org/mp3/Allison-111406.mp3
Yes its mindblowing....incinerating 3000 people in an office tower, not an issue, blowing up people on subways and busses, all fine, assorted rapes of children, cutting off hands, heads or whatever is handy...all good....BUT CARTOONS...oh the horror, oh the humanity....oh give me a break!
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(http://www.insultsunpunished.com/images/danish_muslim_cartoons.gif)
Oh my yes.....these ARE outrageous!
Pictures, because of pictures, muslims caused millions of dollars in damge to buildings, rioted, killed people, and just acted like general morons....and because of this behavior, WE are supposed to NOT print anymore cartoons.....heres a suggestion, dont want anymore cartoons, stop bombing crap if you want to continue to bomb, rape, riot, kill, and act like uncivilized animals, then the rest of us get to mock your spiritual leader ;) cry us a river ^-^
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Good one crazy Kelly!
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That is fabulous. I used to know a website that had some very good cartoons. I wish I could find it again. Muslims are the most intolerant religion there is. You know what really behooves me is why any black would want to be a Muslim after reading the Qur'an. Ah, nevermind, I posted a very good audio file with Dr. J. Phillip Rushton that explains this.... ???
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There funny huh little girl Sarah!
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To be honest, I didn't feel a thing when I looked at them WJ.
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I think they were funny but to each their own. :)
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To be honest, I didn't feel a thing when I looked at them WJ.
That's good Sarah. It is a sign that you are progressing away from the mental disorder: Islam. Like Liberalism, Islam too is a mental disorder in my opinion... O0
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I'm 110% behind free speech.
Part of living in a western country is putting up with things one may not agree with or may find offensive. If muslims can't handle it, they should get out and return to the stinking, muslim poo-holes they come from.
It's like uncovered women and erotic imagery. Part of living in the west means seeing people in scanty clothes. If muslims can't resist the urge to rape (and most cannot), they should get out.
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The entire purpose of the cartoons was to show muslims in a non violent way that they are not above parody or satire, that the collective non muslim world does not "revere" their pedophile "prophet" and that rule about drawing his ugly mug doesnt apply to free people in civilized western countries. No one cares anymore about muslim sensitivities, people who can gleefully watch a beheading, or dare i mention Beslan, and the deafening silence from the muslim world on that one, no mention of children held hostage, tortured and killed...but good Lord, a cartoon and they are frothing at the mouth....and yet they STILL expect us to take them seriously ::)
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Of course KellyMaureen, because you're a brilliant perfect person and thus able to instigate ultimate judgement over everybody.
Its not like you drew the cartoons.
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Nothing I said was untrue, only God is perfect, and I cant draw a straight line with a ruler.
I fully support the cartoonists, whos lives are now in danger because they chose to express their freedom of speech and creativity. Perhaps the should have chosen to poke fun at Jews or Christians, they would be still going on with their daily lives right now ;)
And the purpose, was THEIR statement when asked why they did it.
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Sarah it seems to bother you . and why,you are not a muslim anymore!I guess your just sensitive.Do your parents know you spend your time with us.Are you home schooled?
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Wayne, I was merely pointing out the reason that the cartoonists gave for drawing and printing them. Being offended is a part of life, reacting in the manor that hundreds of thousands of muslims worldwide did is quite another.
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I personally cannot see any reason not to insult someone as evil as Mohammed.
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Sarah it seems to bother you . and why,you are not a muslim anymore!I guess your just sensitive.Do your parents know you spend your time with us.Are you home schooled?
It bothers me because I know a lot of muslims who are brilliant people, and all this shite is being said about them. There are evil ignorant muslims in the world and they deserve to be hated. The rest do not, in my opinion, especially since they don't do anything that is mentioned on this website as being evil e.g. hating non-muslims, raping, beheading, riotting etc.
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Islam-Butchery ?
(Very graphic)
http://illustratedpig.blogspot.com/2007/04/criminally-over-looked-pt1.html
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I find it absolutely questionable when in the early 1300's Marco Polo travelled the Silk Route to China visit the Great Khan of the Mongol Empire; Kublai Khan the grandson of the Mongol Empire builder Genghis Khan's Golden Horde his memoirs dictate the debauchery, goals and savageness of Mohammed's Islam. In his diary he directly relays the conversation that he attended between Kublai Khan and the head Imam after his witnessing the Imam's lecture about the goal of Islam being to conquer the World. When Khan asked the Imam if he believed that his book; the Qur'an, was the truth. The Imam said that he did. Khan asked the Imam if his "holy" book of the god of the Muslim has its goal of killing or converting all non-Muslims. The Imam replied to the affirmative. Khan asked him why the Muslims aren't doing what their holybook and their god Allah demands? The Imam replied that they cannot do it because they are not powerful enough yet. The Khan replied that he was powerful enough and killed the Imam and drove out the Muslims from within his empire.
Islam was a sick vile globalist death cult since the 7th century...period, end, full stop.
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Thank you MarZutra for this.
It allows me to say:
PEACE TO KUBLAI KHAN'S MEMORY.
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Thank you MarZutra for this.
It allows me to say:
PEACE TO KUBLAI KHAN'S MEMORY.
;)
LOL yes I wish there were more we could praise. This commontary on Marco Polo is within his work "The Travels of Marco Polo" and the 1940's historical work by Harold Lamb: "The march of the barbarians".
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Sarah it seems to bother you . and why,you are not a muslim anymore!I guess your just sensitive.Do your parents know you spend your time with us.Are you home schooled?
It bothers me because I know a lot of muslims who are brilliant people, and all this shite is being said about them. There are evil ignorant muslims in the world and they deserve to be hated. The rest do not, in my opinion, especially since they don't do anything that is mentioned on this website as being evil e.g. hating non-muslims, raping, beheading, riotting etc.
The problem, Sarah is that those (supposedly) 'good' muslims are showing ZERO opposition to the radicals.
In christian or Jewish societies, if a radical priest or Rabbi preaches hate/ violence, his congregation leave and he is ridiculed and protested by the good people. Yet in islam, NOBODY voices ANY opposition to radical imams or their followers. This means that they must agree with them because silence=consent.
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Sarah it seems to bother you . and why,you are not a muslim anymore!I guess your just sensitive.Do your parents know you spend your time with us.Are you home schooled?
It bothers me because I know a lot of muslims who are brilliant people, and all this shite is being said about them. There are evil ignorant muslims in the world and they deserve to be hated. The rest do not, in my opinion, especially since they don't do anything that is mentioned on this website as being evil e.g. hating non-muslims, raping, beheading, riotting etc.
The problem, Sarah is that those (supposedly) 'good' muslims are showing ZERO opposition to the radicals.
In christian or Jewish societies, if a radical priest or Rabbi preaches hate/ violence, his congregation leave and he is ridiculed and protested by the good people. Yet in islam, NOBODY voices ANY opposition to radical imams or their followers. This means that they must agree with them because silence=consent.
This is true but it goes beyond that. Not only do they not protest the violent teachings, which are sanctioned by the Quran, they continue to follow Islam selectively. Perhaps one can argue that outward condemnation of Islam or an attempt to leave Islam in a Muslim country can get them killed. But why do supposedly peaceful Muslims in western countries continue to associate with Islam if they don't believe in it's preaching of violence?
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Sarah it seems to bother you . and why,you are not a muslim anymore!I guess your just sensitive.Do your parents know you spend your time with us.Are you home schooled?
It bothers me because I know a lot of muslims who are brilliant people, and all this shite is being said about them. There are evil ignorant muslims in the world and they deserve to be hated. The rest do not, in my opinion, especially since they don't do anything that is mentioned on this website as being evil e.g. hating non-muslims, raping, beheading, riotting etc.
The problem, Sarah is that those (supposedly) 'good' muslims are showing ZERO opposition to the radicals.
In christian or Jewish societies, if a radical priest or Rabbi preaches hate/ violence, his congregation leave and he is ridiculed and protested by the good people. Yet in islam, NOBODY voices ANY opposition to radical imams or their followers. This means that they must agree with them because silence=consent.
This is true but it goes beyond that. Not only do they not protest the violent teachings, which are sanctioned by the Quran, they continue to follow Islam selectively. Perhaps one can argue that outward condemnation of Islam or an attempt to leave Islam in a Muslim country can get them killed. But why do supposedly peaceful Muslims in western countries continue to associate with Islam if they don't believe in it's preaching of violence?
The reason there are so many braches of christiannity with different views is that western people opposed the church's teachings. Why don't muslims do the same?
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"silence=consent." and it does! >:(
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Good point Newman.... Agreed. I think only an idiot would not be able to connect the two. Good point...