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Title: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: Sarah on February 18, 2008, 05:15:09 AM
A lot of you i'm sure picture all arab countries to be Sharia focused, executing whomever steps out of line.
There is a lot of Arab music though that nearly everybody listens too......they don't ban everything. Even if it is slightly crazy.......it is only really Saudi Arabia and Iran that are the extremists.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_Iu5IcycUd4&feature=related (http://youtube.com/watch?v=_Iu5IcycUd4&feature=related)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=7zinomr1rrw (http://youtube.com/watch?v=7zinomr1rrw)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=e7EJ9wBxA8E (http://youtube.com/watch?v=e7EJ9wBxA8E)

I cannot argue that these videos or the music is considered Islamic but the people are not as backwards as you think they are. Most of it has reformed.
Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: Ambiorix on February 18, 2008, 05:21:12 AM
Sarah,

I consider the 3 samples of music you gave, as backward.

But that's just my, West-European-Arab-music-hating opinion.

I much prefer authentic non-vocal Arab music on a solo instrument such as the oud,
without any of the arab or other muslim languages, or texts.

I want a law , that forbids loud music like this in cars.

Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: Sarah on February 18, 2008, 05:27:29 AM
I understand what you mean, though the majority of arabs wouldn't listen to just an instrument. Just like most of the West wouldn't listen to it either, and these songs are comparable to those of the wests especially with the words.
Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: Ambiorix on February 18, 2008, 05:30:28 AM
I understand what you mean, though the majority of arabs wouldn't listen to just an instrument. Just like most of the West wouldn't listen to it either, and these songs are comparable to those of the wests especially with the words.
That's correct.
That's why I dislike this pop-arab music ,a lot more then traditional arab music.

I hate the NWO globalist destruction of the European or any other culture.
Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: Sarah on February 18, 2008, 07:43:37 AM
I understand what you mean, though the majority of arabs wouldn't listen to just an instrument. Just like most of the West wouldn't listen to it either, and these songs are comparable to those of the wests especially with the words.
That's correct.
That's why I dislike this pop-arab music ,a lot more then traditional arab music.

I hate the NWO globalist destruction of the European or any other culture.

But this proves that the Arab countries and their people are not merely turbaned nomads killing people everyday of their lives. The arab world is becoming more westernized, which although you may hate you can tolerate.
Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: newman on February 18, 2008, 07:46:33 AM
I understand what you mean, though the majority of arabs wouldn't listen to just an instrument. Just like most of the West wouldn't listen to it either, and these songs are comparable to those of the wests especially with the words.
That's correct.
That's why I dislike this pop-arab music ,a lot more then traditional arab music.

I hate the NWO globalist destruction of the European or any other culture.

But this proves that the Arab countries and their people are not merely turbaned nomads killing people everyday of their lives. The arab world is becoming more westernized, which although you may hate you can tolerate.


Music proves nothing. Cannibals make bongo music and nazi-germany had fine orchestras.
Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: Ambiorix on February 18, 2008, 06:35:03 PM
I understand what you mean, though the majority of arabs wouldn't listen to just an instrument. Just like most of the West wouldn't listen to it either, and these songs are comparable to those of the wests especially with the words.
That's correct.
That's why I dislike this pop-arab music ,a lot more then traditional arab music.

I hate the NWO globalist destruction of the European or any other culture.

But this proves that the Arab countries and their people are not merely turbaned nomads killing people everyday of their lives. The arab world is becoming more westernized, which although you may hate you can tolerate.

no. We must not encourage JTF members to listen to liberal satanic stuff.
Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: Sarah on February 18, 2008, 06:43:43 PM
I understand what you mean, though the majority of arabs wouldn't listen to just an instrument. Just like most of the West wouldn't listen to it either, and these songs are comparable to those of the wests especially with the words.
That's correct.
That's why I dislike this pop-arab music ,a lot more then traditional arab music.

I hate the NWO globalist destruction of the European or any other culture.

But this proves that the Arab countries and their people are not merely turbaned nomads killing people everyday of their lives. The arab world is becoming more westernized, which although you may hate you can tolerate.

no. We must not encourage JTF members to listen to liberal satanic stuff.

I know. Though many people say that if Islam went through the same renaissance period as did Christianity, they would tolerate it. If you look at the Arab world it is going through this period quite significantly, reflected by it's music and other factors.......
Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: Ambiorix on February 18, 2008, 06:46:53 PM
I understand what you mean, though the majority of arabs wouldn't listen to just an instrument. Just like most of the West wouldn't listen to it either, and these songs are comparable to those of the wests especially with the words.
That's correct.
That's why I dislike this pop-arab music ,a lot more then traditional arab music.

I hate the NWO globalist destruction of the European or any other culture.
But this proves that the Arab countries and their people are not merely turbaned nomads killing people everyday of their lives. The arab world is becoming more westernized, which although you may hate you can tolerate.

no. We must not encourage JTF members to listen to liberal satanic stuff.

I know. Though many people say that if Islam went through the same renaissance period as did Christianity, they would tolerate it. If you look at the Arab world it is going through this period quite significantly, reflected by it's music and other factors.......
the Renaissance was a product of intelligent people. this"music" is hardly the product of 90+ IQ people.
Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: Sarah on February 18, 2008, 06:51:40 PM
They are making money out of it and can sing.

Forget even the music Ambiorix, the culture itself is changing as shown through the lax behaviour in the videos.......you don't get whipped for wearing a T-shirt if you're a woman....you can work freely etc.
Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: Ambiorix on February 18, 2008, 07:13:01 PM
They are making money out of it and can sing.

Forget even the music Ambiorix, the culture itself is changing as shown through the lax behaviour in the videos.......you don't get whipped for wearing a T-shirt if you're a woman....you can work freely etc.
Is a liberal self-hating Arab world better than a theocratic Arab world ?
Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: Sarah on February 18, 2008, 07:15:43 PM
They are making money out of it and can sing.

Forget even the music Ambiorix, the culture itself is changing as shown through the lax behaviour in the videos.......you don't get whipped for wearing a T-shirt if you're a woman....you can work freely etc.
Is a liberal self-hating Arab world better than a theocratic Arab world ?

The west is leading to destruction because it is too liberal yet you hate the arab world because of Islam and live in the west. If the Arab world also leads to a liberal destruction would you hate it less then an Islamic arab world?
Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: Ambiorix on February 18, 2008, 07:17:06 PM
They are making money out of it and can sing.

Forget even the music Ambiorix, the culture itself is changing as shown through the lax behaviour in the videos.......you don't get whipped for wearing a T-shirt if you're a woman....you can work freely etc.
Is a liberal self-hating Arab world better than a theocratic Arab world ?

The west is leading to destruction because it is too liberal yet you hate the arab world because of Islam and live in the west. If the Arab world also leads to a liberal destruction would you hate it less then an Islamic arab world?
I  don't know if liberalism-atheism in Arabia would destroy islam
Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: Sarah on February 18, 2008, 07:18:41 PM
They are making money out of it and can sing.

Forget even the music Ambiorix, the culture itself is changing as shown through the lax behaviour in the videos.......you don't get whipped for wearing a T-shirt if you're a woman....you can work freely etc.
Is a liberal self-hating Arab world better than a theocratic Arab world ?

The west is leading to destruction because it is too liberal yet you hate the arab world because of Islam and live in the west. If the Arab world also leads to a liberal destruction would you hate it less then an Islamic arab world?
I  don't know if liberalism-atheism in Arabia would destroy islam

It already is. Look at the music.....that isn't Islamic, if that continues and spreads to every home Islam will disintergrate but also because of other less islamic things in Arab society that are being encouraged.
Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: Ambiorix on February 18, 2008, 07:23:17 PM
They are making money out of it and can sing.

Forget even the music Ambiorix, the culture itself is changing as shown through the lax behaviour in the videos.......you don't get whipped for wearing a T-shirt if you're a woman....you can work freely etc.
Is a liberal self-hating Arab world better than a theocratic Arab world ?

The west is leading to destruction because it is too liberal yet you hate the arab world because of Islam and live in the west. If the Arab world also leads to a liberal destruction would you hate it less then an Islamic arab world?
I  don't know if liberalism-atheism in Arabia would destroy islam

It already is. Look at the music.....that isn't Islamic, if that continues and spreads to every home Islam will disintergrate but also because of other less islamic things in Arab society that are being encouraged.
Sarah, please, don't underestimate muslims. A moderate "liberal" islam, is more dangerous , and taqiah is their tactic.
Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: Sarah on February 19, 2008, 04:12:07 AM
I don't then understand what you realistically want in regards to Islam, either making it change or what?

You cannot eliminate all the muslims in the world because that isn't realistic......so what else? You just want to keep fighting until the end of time?
Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: newman on February 19, 2008, 04:20:12 AM


You cannot eliminate all the muslims in the world because that isn't realistic......so what else?

THE NEWMAN MIDEAST PEACE PLAN:

It has become most apparent that moslems cannot live with anybody. Look around the world and you'll see that there are huge proplems anywhere that these head-banging loons hang out: Phillipines, India, Eastern Europe , Western Europe, Mid East, North america, Australasia .........you name the place, there's towell-head trouble.

As some whimps and girlie-men are squeemish about a final sollution to the islamic question, a more acceptable way of dealing with the problem would be containment.

The first step is to get the Beit Din to nominate what exactly is Greater Israel. Once we establish the boundaries of greater Israel, we can hand control of this real estate to the chosen people as G_d intended.The rest of the Mid East (minus oil fields) we wall up as a combined moslem reserve/ bombing range/toxic waste dump.

This will be a double wall system where the walls have a ten mile killing zone between them patrolled by AC-130 gunships and complete with mines, automated mini-guns, death rays and whatever wonders of technology the Israel/USA/ (post-enema)Europe alliance can come up with. This massive engeneering project will be financed by the (previously arab-owned) oil wells with abundent (cheap) labour provided by the more benign , non-moslem turd world masses.( U$25 /month plus tent accomodation and all the navy beans they can eat)

In this new, escape proof moslem paradise would be placed all the moslems from all parts of the world without exception. Here they can merrily bang their heads on the rug, howl at the moon and engage in an endless cycle of civil war, pack-rape, slave trading, murder and mutilation and all the other things they love to get up to.....all without bothering the rest of humanity.

Now, this is the final and most important part..............
As we all know these people have proven to be completely incapable of fullfilling even their most basic needs and no doubt the few bleeding hearts left amongst us (that we havn't used as target practice) will demand we send some basic aid. Well, we can use this to advantage.

The afore mentioned aid will be dropped in by a fleet of yellow painted c-130 hercules cargo planes. Occasionally we can use the same planes to drop a fuel-air bomb or two.After about 100 to 150 years, they will begin to worship the "big yellow bird" who gives food and occasionally "divine" wrath. When the new big yellow bird religion has replaced islam, we get some unemployed liberal Hollywood actor to don the Big Bird costume from Sesame Street to go in,become the new Prophet and tell the bone heads how it all works....... Fool proof.
Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: Sarah on February 19, 2008, 04:23:28 AM
How would you get the world to support you? Every single muslim country will wage war upon Israel before anything is even begun.
Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: newman on February 19, 2008, 04:29:40 AM
How would you get the world to support you? Every single muslim country will wage war upon Israel before anything is even begun.

Gutless, nutless europe will do as it's told. They appeased hitler, communism and iSSlam so they'll appease America too if America gets nasty enough. China may arc up but for a garanteed piece of the oil, they'll play ball. Third world countries will shut up too if they know what's good for them.
Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: Sarah on February 19, 2008, 04:33:37 AM
How would you get the world to support you? Every single muslim country will wage war upon Israel before anything is even begun.

Gutless, nutless europe will do as it's told. They appeased hitler, communism and iSSlam so they'll appease America too if America gets nasty enough. China may arc up but for a garanteed piece of the oil, they'll play ball. Third world countries will shut up too if they know what's good for them.

America won't sustain it's power for that long.
Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: newman on February 19, 2008, 04:36:25 AM
How would you get the world to support you? Every single muslim country will wage war upon Israel before anything is even begun.

Gutless, nutless europe will do as it's told. They appeased hitler, communism and iSSlam so they'll appease America too if America gets nasty enough. China may arc up but for a garanteed piece of the oil, they'll play ball. Third world countries will shut up too if they know what's good for them.

America won't sustain it's power for that long.

But for long enough. Besides......without an American market for it's goods, China starves. Nobody but China can come close to threatening America's might and even they can't do it for another 20+ years.
Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: Muck DeFuslims on February 19, 2008, 08:48:43 AM


You cannot eliminate all the muslims in the world because that isn't realistic......so what else?

THE NEWMAN MIDEAST PEACE PLAN:

It has become most apparent that moslems cannot live with anybody. Look around the world and you'll see that there are huge proplems anywhere that these head-banging loons hang out: Phillipines, India, Eastern Europe , Western Europe, Mid East, North america, Australasia .........you name the place, there's towell-head trouble.

As some whimps and girlie-men are squeemish about a final sollution to the islamic question, a more acceptable way of dealing with the problem would be containment.

The first step is to get the Beit Din to nominate what exactly is Greater Israel. Once we establish the boundaries of greater Israel, we can hand control of this real estate to the chosen people as G_d intended.The rest of the Mid East (minus oil fields) we wall up as a combined moslem reserve/ bombing range/toxic waste dump.

This will be a double wall system where the walls have a ten mile killing zone between them patrolled by AC-130 gunships and complete with mines, automated mini-guns, death rays and whatever wonders of technology the Israel/USA/ (post-enema)Europe alliance can come up with. This massive engeneering project will be financed by the (previously arab-owned) oil wells with abundent (cheap) labour provided by the more benign , non-moslem turd world masses.( U$25 /month plus tent accomodation and all the navy beans they can eat)

In this new, escape proof moslem paradise would be placed all the moslems from all parts of the world without exception. Here they can merrily bang their heads on the rug, howl at the moon and engage in an endless cycle of civil war, pack-rape, slave trading, murder and mutilation and all the other things they love to get up to.....all without bothering the rest of humanity.

Now, this is the final and most important part..............
As we all know these people have proven to be completely incapable of fullfilling even their most basic needs and no doubt the few bleeding hearts left amongst us (that we havn't used as target practice) will demand we send some basic aid. Well, we can use this to advantage.

The afore mentioned aid will be dropped in by a fleet of yellow painted c-130 hercules cargo planes. Occasionally we can use the same planes to drop a fuel-air bomb or two.After about 100 to 150 years, they will begin to worship the "big yellow bird" who gives food and occasionally "divine" wrath. When the new big yellow bird religion has replaced islam, we get some unemployed liberal Hollywood actor to don the Big Bird costume from Sesame Street to go in,become the new Prophet and tell the bone heads how it all works....... Fool proof.

Now there's a plan I could support !  O0

In all seriousness, Newman's plan (although delivered in a comic vein) does incorporate many effective strategies that should be employed to eradicate Islam.

I prefer to think of any 'plan' for dealing with Islam and moooozies as a war plan, rather than a peace plan. Unlike Sarah, who apparently believes that it's unrealistic to wage continual war against the Islamic world, and that eradicating mooozies and Islam is an impossibility--I believe that continuous war with Islam is mandatory and inevitable, and that every civilized nation on Earth should strive to eradicate this evil, retrograde, abomination that masquerades as a religion.

How can this best be achieved ?

Surely, as Newman so adroitly points out, containing the Koranimals should be the first step in ending the existence of Islam.

But containment isn't enough.

Containment must be followed by isolation, and then annihilation.

To accomplish this several tactics should be employed.

First and foremost, the West must stop doing any business with mooozies. This requires a crash energy program which JTF has long advocated. Once the mooozie oil weapon has been neutralized, the Koranimals will be stripped of their economic and political power.

Next, Western nations must impose a total embargo on the delivery of food to the Islamic enemy. The food weapon is an extremely powerful one and should be used to bring the mooozies to their knees.

In addition to stopping the delivery of food, a total embargo of all Western technologies and medicines should be advented.

A starving, bankrupt, Islamic world devoid of Western technologies would soon be precariously teetering on the precipice of extinction. All that would be needed is a small shove to send them over the edge, and finally rid the planet of this cancer.

So there you have it. A blueprint for the eradication of Islam.

It can't happen soon enough.
Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: Abdul-Azim on February 19, 2008, 11:16:29 AM


You cannot eliminate all the muslims in the world because that isn't realistic......so what else?

THE NEWMAN MIDEAST PEACE PLAN:

It has become most apparent that moslems cannot live with anybody. Look around the world and you'll see that there are huge proplems anywhere that these head-banging loons hang out: Phillipines, India, Eastern Europe , Western Europe, Mid East, North america, Australasia .........you name the place, there's towell-head trouble.

As some whimps and girlie-men are squeemish about a final sollution to the islamic question, a more acceptable way of dealing with the problem would be containment.

The first step is to get the Beit Din to nominate what exactly is Greater Israel. Once we establish the boundaries of greater Israel, we can hand control of this real estate to the chosen people as G_d intended.The rest of the Mid East (minus oil fields) we wall up as a combined moslem reserve/ bombing range/toxic waste dump.

This will be a double wall system where the walls have a ten mile killing zone between them patrolled by AC-130 gunships and complete with mines, automated mini-guns, death rays and whatever wonders of technology the Israel/USA/ (post-enema)Europe alliance can come up with. This massive engeneering project will be financed by the (previously arab-owned) oil wells with abundent (cheap) labour provided by the more benign , non-moslem turd world masses.( U$25 /month plus tent accomodation and all the navy beans they can eat)

In this new, escape proof moslem paradise would be placed all the moslems from all parts of the world without exception. Here they can merrily bang their heads on the rug, howl at the moon and engage in an endless cycle of civil war, pack-rape, slave trading, murder and mutilation and all the other things they love to get up to.....all without bothering the rest of humanity.

Now, this is the final and most important part..............
As we all know these people have proven to be completely incapable of fullfilling even their most basic needs and no doubt the few bleeding hearts left amongst us (that we havn't used as target practice) will demand we send some basic aid. Well, we can use this to advantage.

The afore mentioned aid will be dropped in by a fleet of yellow painted c-130 hercules cargo planes. Occasionally we can use the same planes to drop a fuel-air bomb or two.After about 100 to 150 years, they will begin to worship the "big yellow bird" who gives food and occasionally "divine" wrath. When the new big yellow bird religion has replaced islam, we get some unemployed liberal Hollywood actor to don the Big Bird costume from Sesame Street to go in,become the new Prophet and tell the bone heads how it all works....... Fool proof.

Now there's a plan I could support !  O0

In all seriousness, Newman's plan (although delivered in a comic vein) does incorporate many effective strategies that should be employed to eradicate Islam.

I prefer to think of any 'plan' for dealing with Islam and moooozies as a war plan, rather than a peace plan. Unlike Sarah, who apparently believes that it's unrealistic to wage continual war against the Islamic world, and that eradicating mooozies and Islam is an impossibility--I believe that continuous war with Islam is mandatory and inevitable, and that every civilized nation on Earth should strive to eradicate this evil, retrograde, abomination that masquerades as a religion.

How can this best be achieved ?

Surely, as Newman so adroitly points out, containing the Koranimals should be the first step in ending the existence of Islam.

But containment isn't enough.

Containment must be followed by isolation, and then annihilation.

To accomplish this several tactics should be employed.

First and foremost, the West must stop doing any business with mooozies. This requires a crash energy program which JTF has long advocated. Once the mooozie oil weapon has been neutralized, the Koranimals will be stripped of their economic and political power.

Next, Western nations must impose a total embargo on the delivery of food to the Islamic enemy. The food weapon is an extremely powerful one and should be used to bring the mooozies to their knees.

In addition to stopping the delivery of food, a total embargo of all Western technologies and medicines should be advented.

A starving, bankrupt, Islamic world devoid of Western technologies would soon be precariously teetering on the precipice of extinction. All that would be needed is a small shove to send them over the edge, and finally rid the planet of this cancer.

So there you have it. A blueprint for the eradication of Islam.

It can't happen soon enough.

you are nothing but a disgusting nazi.
Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: newman on February 19, 2008, 11:45:44 AM


You cannot eliminate all the muslims in the world because that isn't realistic......so what else?

THE NEWMAN MIDEAST PEACE PLAN:

It has become most apparent that moslems cannot live with anybody. Look around the world and you'll see that there are huge proplems anywhere that these head-banging loons hang out: Phillipines, India, Eastern Europe , Western Europe, Mid East, North america, Australasia .........you name the place, there's towell-head trouble.

As some whimps and girlie-men are squeemish about a final sollution to the islamic question, a more acceptable way of dealing with the problem would be containment.

The first step is to get the Beit Din to nominate what exactly is Greater Israel. Once we establish the boundaries of greater Israel, we can hand control of this real estate to the chosen people as G_d intended.The rest of the Mid East (minus oil fields) we wall up as a combined moslem reserve/ bombing range/toxic waste dump.

This will be a double wall system where the walls have a ten mile killing zone between them patrolled by AC-130 gunships and complete with mines, automated mini-guns, death rays and whatever wonders of technology the Israel/USA/ (post-enema)Europe alliance can come up with. This massive engeneering project will be financed by the (previously arab-owned) oil wells with abundent (cheap) labour provided by the more benign , non-moslem turd world masses.( U$25 /month plus tent accomodation and all the navy beans they can eat)

In this new, escape proof moslem paradise would be placed all the moslems from all parts of the world without exception. Here they can merrily bang their heads on the rug, howl at the moon and engage in an endless cycle of civil war, pack-rape, slave trading, murder and mutilation and all the other things they love to get up to.....all without bothering the rest of humanity.

Now, this is the final and most important part..............
As we all know these people have proven to be completely incapable of fullfilling even their most basic needs and no doubt the few bleeding hearts left amongst us (that we havn't used as target practice) will demand we send some basic aid. Well, we can use this to advantage.

The afore mentioned aid will be dropped in by a fleet of yellow painted c-130 hercules cargo planes. Occasionally we can use the same planes to drop a fuel-air bomb or two.After about 100 to 150 years, they will begin to worship the "big yellow bird" who gives food and occasionally "divine" wrath. When the new big yellow bird religion has replaced islam, we get some unemployed liberal Hollywood actor to don the Big Bird costume from Sesame Street to go in,become the new Prophet and tell the bone heads how it all works....... Fool proof.

Now there's a plan I could support !  O0

In all seriousness, Newman's plan (although delivered in a comic vein) does incorporate many effective strategies that should be employed to eradicate Islam.

I prefer to think of any 'plan' for dealing with Islam and moooozies as a war plan, rather than a peace plan. Unlike Sarah, who apparently believes that it's unrealistic to wage continual war against the Islamic world, and that eradicating mooozies and Islam is an impossibility--I believe that continuous war with Islam is mandatory and inevitable, and that every civilized nation on Earth should strive to eradicate this evil, retrograde, abomination that masquerades as a religion.

How can this best be achieved ?

Surely, as Newman so adroitly points out, containing the Koranimals should be the first step in ending the existence of Islam.

But containment isn't enough.

Containment must be followed by isolation, and then annihilation.

To accomplish this several tactics should be employed.

First and foremost, the West must stop doing any business with mooozies. This requires a crash energy program which JTF has long advocated. Once the mooozie oil weapon has been neutralized, the Koranimals will be stripped of their economic and political power.

Next, Western nations must impose a total embargo on the delivery of food to the Islamic enemy. The food weapon is an extremely powerful one and should be used to bring the mooozies to their knees.

In addition to stopping the delivery of food, a total embargo of all Western technologies and medicines should be advented.

A starving, bankrupt, Islamic world devoid of Western technologies would soon be precariously teetering on the precipice of extinction. All that would be needed is a small shove to send them over the edge, and finally rid the planet of this cancer.

So there you have it. A blueprint for the eradication of Islam.

It can't happen soon enough.

you are nothing but a disgusting nazi.

muSSlims started it.
Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: Abdul-Azim on February 19, 2008, 12:22:22 PM
A lot of you i'm sure picture all arab countries to be Sharia focused, executing whomever steps out of line.
There is a lot of Arab music though that nearly everybody listens too......they don't ban everything. Even if it is slightly crazy.......it is only really Saudi Arabia and Iran that are the extremists.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_Iu5IcycUd4&feature=related (http://youtube.com/watch?v=_Iu5IcycUd4&feature=related)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=7zinomr1rrw (http://youtube.com/watch?v=7zinomr1rrw)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=e7EJ9wBxA8E (http://youtube.com/watch?v=e7EJ9wBxA8E)

I cannot argue that these videos or the music is considered Islamic but the people are not as backwards as you think they are. Most of it has reformed.

nonono, all those guys in those videos think about nothing else besides killing jews, and taking their women as slaves ;)
Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: kellymaureen on February 19, 2008, 01:32:06 PM
Sarah if we could get the VAST majority of muslims to think as you do and be as open minded as you are we would have the problems we are having....unfortunately I dont think that will ever be the case....what do you suggest, obviously there are hard liners who wouldnt ever change their minds about killing the infidels, but do you think enough are willing to change their thoughts?
Are you saying you see hope for the younger generation?
Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: Sarah on February 19, 2008, 02:46:30 PM
Sarah if we could get the VAST majority of muslims to think as you do and be as open minded as you are we would have the problems we are having....unfortunately I dont think that will ever be the case....what do you suggest, obviously there are hard liners who wouldnt ever change their minds about killing the infidels, but do you think enough are willing to change their thoughts?
Are you saying you see hope for the younger generation?

I'm saying the Arab world is changing, in general, with it's culture. I don't see hope for the younger generation but i see a difference, they want to be like the people their grandfathers want to kill. I don't think this is a good thing but it means less hatred overall, towards the west.

Mills, the fact that they CAN parade around half-naked without having their heads chopped off 20 seconds later, shows that the sense of discipline is deteriorating and with that comes the lax in sharia and other aspects.
Of course music doesn't affect other views such as on Israel and the Jewish people.........but the more they accept and adopt these things, even the country itself not the majority of people, it will have an impact and liberalise their views.
Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: Sarah on February 19, 2008, 02:53:15 PM


You cannot eliminate all the muslims in the world because that isn't realistic......so what else?

THE NEWMAN MIDEAST PEACE PLAN:

It has become most apparent that moslems cannot live with anybody. Look around the world and you'll see that there are huge proplems anywhere that these head-banging loons hang out: Phillipines, India, Eastern Europe , Western Europe, Mid East, North america, Australasia .........you name the place, there's towell-head trouble.

As some whimps and girlie-men are squeemish about a final sollution to the islamic question, a more acceptable way of dealing with the problem would be containment.

The first step is to get the Beit Din to nominate what exactly is Greater Israel. Once we establish the boundaries of greater Israel, we can hand control of this real estate to the chosen people as G_d intended.The rest of the Mid East (minus oil fields) we wall up as a combined moslem reserve/ bombing range/toxic waste dump.

This will be a double wall system where the walls have a ten mile killing zone between them patrolled by AC-130 gunships and complete with mines, automated mini-guns, death rays and whatever wonders of technology the Israel/USA/ (post-enema)Europe alliance can come up with. This massive engeneering project will be financed by the (previously arab-owned) oil wells with abundent (cheap) labour provided by the more benign , non-moslem turd world masses.( U$25 /month plus tent accomodation and all the navy beans they can eat)

In this new, escape proof moslem paradise would be placed all the moslems from all parts of the world without exception. Here they can merrily bang their heads on the rug, howl at the moon and engage in an endless cycle of civil war, pack-rape, slave trading, murder and mutilation and all the other things they love to get up to.....all without bothering the rest of humanity.

Now, this is the final and most important part..............
As we all know these people have proven to be completely incapable of fullfilling even their most basic needs and no doubt the few bleeding hearts left amongst us (that we havn't used as target practice) will demand we send some basic aid. Well, we can use this to advantage.

The afore mentioned aid will be dropped in by a fleet of yellow painted c-130 hercules cargo planes. Occasionally we can use the same planes to drop a fuel-air bomb or two.After about 100 to 150 years, they will begin to worship the "big yellow bird" who gives food and occasionally "divine" wrath. When the new big yellow bird religion has replaced islam, we get some unemployed liberal Hollywood actor to don the Big Bird costume from Sesame Street to go in,become the new Prophet and tell the bone heads how it all works....... Fool proof.

Now there's a plan I could support !  O0

In all seriousness, Newman's plan (although delivered in a comic vein) does incorporate many effective strategies that should be employed to eradicate Islam.

I prefer to think of any 'plan' for dealing with Islam and moooozies as a war plan, rather than a peace plan. Unlike Sarah, who apparently believes that it's unrealistic to wage continual war against the Islamic world, and that eradicating mooozies and Islam is an impossibility--I believe that continuous war with Islam is mandatory and inevitable, and that every civilized nation on Earth should strive to eradicate this evil, retrograde, abomination that masquerades as a religion.

How can this best be achieved ?

Surely, as Newman so adroitly points out, containing the Koranimals should be the first step in ending the existence of Islam.

But containment isn't enough.

Containment must be followed by isolation, and then annihilation.

To accomplish this several tactics should be employed.

First and foremost, the West must stop doing any business with mooozies. This requires a crash energy program which JTF has long advocated. Once the mooozie oil weapon has been neutralized, the Koranimals will be stripped of their economic and political power.

Next, Western nations must impose a total embargo on the delivery of food to the Islamic enemy. The food weapon is an extremely powerful one and should be used to bring the mooozies to their knees.

In addition to stopping the delivery of food, a total embargo of all Western technologies and medicines should be advented.

A starving, bankrupt, Islamic world devoid of Western technologies would soon be precariously teetering on the precipice of extinction. All that would be needed is a small shove to send them over the edge, and finally rid the planet of this cancer.

So there you have it. A blueprint for the eradication of Islam.

It can't happen soon enough.

That isn't going to happen. EVER. Hopefully it won't anyhow.


Everything you say makes me feel sick.
Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: mord on February 19, 2008, 02:54:29 PM
The girls are cuties except the one with the afro  ;D
Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: Sarah on February 19, 2008, 02:58:06 PM
The girls are cuties except the one with the afro  ;D

They're all a bunch of bozo's.  :)
Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: mord on February 19, 2008, 02:59:44 PM
Why? you know Bozo in England
Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: Sarah on February 19, 2008, 03:13:04 PM
Why? you know Bozo in England
I just meant it as another term for idiot.

Well I hope so, but I don't think they are changing for the better anyways.
I don't see this as promising at all. The minority may want this, but the majority are more interested in being more conservative. So I could care less if a few people think pop music is cool.

What's more important to me is not whether or not they are "changing" with their pop music or not, what's important to me is that they WANT the world to be under islam and their anti-Jewish/Israel attitude.

So music or not, it still doesn't change anything. It just means that they'll be dancing more and playing that loud ugly moany music as they force us to be their dhimmies.

Following the Sharia outburst here in the UK, it transpired that most muslims do not want sharia law to overide British law, simply because they don't want to live under and islamic state. Mills, if they're muslim to start off with, obviously they're going to want the world to be under Islam and for the middle-east to belong to the arabs.

Since you are Jewish, you wish for the land to belong to the Jewish people, whatever the rights or wrongs are.
Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: mord on February 19, 2008, 03:17:06 PM
This is more high class arab music                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uz4HOThbLc     




This one was ruined by a D.J. he made it disco
Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: mord on February 19, 2008, 03:19:58 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-5TsvaGDo0&feature=related
Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: kellymaureen on February 19, 2008, 03:41:54 PM


Since you are Jewish, you wish for the land to belong to the Jewish people, whatever the rights or wrongs are.

I don't want all of the world to be under Jewish rule. I just want Israel to be Jewish, since that is the will of G-d.
But I don't want Jews to rule the world. Gentiles should rule themselves.

Well said Mills!  I couldnt agree more!
Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: christians4jews on February 20, 2008, 10:24:16 AM
A lot of you i'm sure picture all arab countries to be Sharia focused, executing whomever steps out of line.
There is a lot of Arab music though that nearly everybody listens too......they don't ban everything. Even if it is slightly crazy.......it is only really Saudi Arabia and Iran that are the extremists.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_Iu5IcycUd4&feature=related (http://youtube.com/watch?v=_Iu5IcycUd4&feature=related)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=7zinomr1rrw (http://youtube.com/watch?v=7zinomr1rrw)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=e7EJ9wBxA8E (http://youtube.com/watch?v=e7EJ9wBxA8E)

I cannot argue that these videos or the music is considered Islamic but the people are not as backwards as you think they are. Most of it has reformed.

rubbish music

rubbish thread

ALL muslims are retarded...
Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: Ambiorix on February 20, 2008, 10:28:42 AM
A lot of you i'm sure picture all arab countries to be Sharia focused, executing whomever steps out of line.
There is a lot of Arab music though that nearly everybody listens too......they don't ban everything. Even if it is slightly crazy.......it is only really Saudi Arabia and Iran that are the extremists.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_Iu5IcycUd4&feature=related (http://youtube.com/watch?v=_Iu5IcycUd4&feature=related)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=7zinomr1rrw (http://youtube.com/watch?v=7zinomr1rrw)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=e7EJ9wBxA8E (http://youtube.com/watch?v=e7EJ9wBxA8E)

I cannot argue that these videos or the music is considered Islamic but the people are not as backwards as you think they are. Most of it has reformed.

rubbish music

rubbish thread

ALL muslims are retarded...
Muslims are less retarded than a lot of atheist scum.

Some Arab music is less decadent than "Western" music, e.g. some Techno, house, rock,...
Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: newman on February 20, 2008, 11:13:44 AM
I prefer an atheist who is prepared to adhere to the principals of individual freedom and liberty than a muSSlim who wants to forcibly convert, enslave, rape and kill everybody else.
Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: Ambiorix on February 20, 2008, 11:29:31 AM
I prefer an atheist who is prepared to adhere to the principals of individual freedom and liberty than a muSSlim who wants to forcibly convert, enslave, rape and kill everybody else.
I don't agree that atheists can be trusted on their willingness to defend the Western civilisation.

Most of them hate Judaism (Christianity) and Israel. At the other hand they mostly don't see Islam as an enemy , but
as a victim of "imperialism".

Even atheists, that do oppose the islamisation of Europe, are in principle anti-religion, and want to ban ALL religions, instead of siding with the
elements of Christians and Jews, that want to annihilate Islam.

Isn't it more realistic to have a brutal theocracy, to root out Islam, Atheism, and White&Jew-haters.





Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on February 20, 2008, 11:48:32 AM
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Even atheists, that do oppose the islamisation of Europe, are in principle anti-religion, and want to ban ALL religions, instead of siding with the
elements of Christians and Jews, that want to annihilate Islam.
It's sounds very funny, but once I met an Atheist phisician who advocated Christian Anti-Semitism. He said he strongly believed there is no G-d, but Jews were evil and Jesus' murderers.

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Isn't it more realistic to have a brutal theocracy, to root out Islam, Atheism, and White&Jew-haters.
I have studied that problem for years and I have concluded you cannot make a religious or moral system based in alliances with different faiths/idelogies.
Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: newman on February 20, 2008, 11:50:15 AM
There are over 6 million atheists in Australia. Not a single one has demanded the removal of christmas decorations from shopping malls or public places. Not a single atheist has demanded this country submit to their domination. muSSlims have.

Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: Ambiorix on February 20, 2008, 11:54:22 AM
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Even atheists, that do oppose the islamisation of Europe, are in principle anti-religion, and want to ban ALL religions, instead of siding with the
elements of Christians and Jews, that want to annihilate Islam.
It's sounds very funny, but once I met an Atheist phisician who advocated Christian Anti-Semitism. He said he strongly believed there is no G-d, but Jews were evil and Jesus' murderers.

That is what I mean. Atheists hate Jews. No matter what. They are jealous of religious people, and especially of the Chosen People.

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Isn't it more realistic to have a brutal theocracy, to root out Islam, Atheism, and White&Jew-haters.
I have studied that problem for years and I have concluded you cannot make a religious or moral system based in alliances with different faiths/idelogies.

So you agree that our pluralistic democratic model is doomed?
Do you agree, that a right-wing Church must be in control of state-power and army, to destroy Islam and marxist elements (the majority) of Christian leaders, and of course Atheism?


Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: newman on February 20, 2008, 11:56:27 AM


Isn't it more realistic to have a brutal theocracy, to root out Islam, Atheism, and White&Jew-haters.

No theocracy is the history of the world has EVER rooted out Jew haters. Theocracies are dominated by Jew-haters.

No theocracy has EVER had freedom or liberty for it's citizens.

Biblical Israel may be an exception, but it is a guarantee of totalitarianism in the nations.

The Founding Fathers of America triumphed over tyranny and created a country where "anti-semitism would have no quarter" with liberty, not dictatorship.
Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: Ambiorix on February 20, 2008, 11:57:28 AM
There are over 6 million atheists in Australia. Not a single one has demanded the removal of christmas decorations from shopping malls or public places. Not a single atheist has demanded this country submit to their domination. muSSlims have.



Here the situation is totally different.

Here the P.C.-demanding aparatchicks are the ones demanding respect for the muslims. 99% of the muslims themselves are too stupid to do so.
Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: Ambiorix on February 20, 2008, 11:58:38 AM


Isn't it more realistic to have a brutal theocracy, to root out Islam, Atheism, and White&Jew-haters.

No theocracy is the history of the world has EVER rooted out Jew haters. Theocracies are dominated by Jew-haters.

No theocracy has EVER had freedom or liberty for it's citizens.

Biblical Israel may be an exception, but it is a guarantee of totalitarianism in the nations.

The Founding Fathers of America triumphed over tyranny and created a country where "anti-semitism would have no quarter" with liberty, not dictatorship.


So , in your opinion, the defending of liberal values, against all forms of totalitarism is the way to go to smash Islam?
Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: newman on February 20, 2008, 12:05:10 PM


Isn't it more realistic to have a brutal theocracy, to root out Islam, Atheism, and White&Jew-haters.

No theocracy is the history of the world has EVER rooted out Jew haters. Theocracies are dominated by Jew-haters.

No theocracy has EVER had freedom or liberty for it's citizens.

Biblical Israel may be an exception, but it is a guarantee of totalitarianism in the nations.

The Founding Fathers of America triumphed over tyranny and created a country where "anti-semitism would have no quarter" with liberty, not dictatorship.


So , in your opinion, the defending of liberal values, against all forms of totalitarism is the way to go to smash Islam?

Liberalism is NOT liberty. Unless you mean the classical liberalism of America's founding fathers.

Totalitarianism IS the enemy. iSSlamic totalitarianism, neo-liberal facsism, communism...............all forms of totalitarianism with only a differnce clothing.

Freedom is the only thing that works economically, socially, morally and even militarilly. Freedom is also the greatest weapon. A free man fighting for that freedom is worth 10 hired goons or 100 subjugated peasants forced to fight for a system that keeps them in servitude. The story of the Greeks in the film '300' demonstrates that.
Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: Ambiorix on February 20, 2008, 12:07:59 PM


Isn't it more realistic to have a brutal theocracy, to root out Islam, Atheism, and White&Jew-haters.

No theocracy is the history of the world has EVER rooted out Jew haters. Theocracies are dominated by Jew-haters.

No theocracy has EVER had freedom or liberty for it's citizens.

Biblical Israel may be an exception, but it is a guarantee of totalitarianism in the nations.

The Founding Fathers of America triumphed over tyranny and created a country where "anti-semitism would have no quarter" with liberty, not dictatorship.


So , in your opinion, the defending of liberal values, against all forms of totalitarism is the way to go to smash Islam?

Liberalism is NOT liberty. Unless you mean the classical liberalism of America's founding fathers.

Totalitarianism IS the enemy. iSSlamic totalitarianism, neo-liberal facsism, communism...............all forms of totalitarianism with only a differnce clothing.

Freedom is the only thing that works economically, socially, morally and even militarilly. Freedom is also the greatest weapon. A free man fighting for that freedom is worth 10 hired goons or 100 subjugated peasants forced to fight for a system that keeps them in servitude. The story of the Greeks in the film '300' demonstrates that.
I indeed mean classic liberalism.

How are you going to defend a free nation of homos and drag queens against muslim-jihadis?
Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: newman on February 20, 2008, 12:18:50 PM


Isn't it more realistic to have a brutal theocracy, to root out Islam, Atheism, and White&Jew-haters.

No theocracy is the history of the world has EVER rooted out Jew haters. Theocracies are dominated by Jew-haters.

No theocracy has EVER had freedom or liberty for it's citizens.

Biblical Israel may be an exception, but it is a guarantee of totalitarianism in the nations.

The Founding Fathers of America triumphed over tyranny and created a country where "anti-semitism would have no quarter" with liberty, not dictatorship.


So , in your opinion, the defending of liberal values, against all forms of totalitarism is the way to go to smash Islam?

Liberalism is NOT liberty. Unless you mean the classical liberalism of America's founding fathers.

Totalitarianism IS the enemy. iSSlamic totalitarianism, neo-liberal facsism, communism...............all forms of totalitarianism with only a differnce clothing.

Freedom is the only thing that works economically, socially, morally and even militarilly. Freedom is also the greatest weapon. A free man fighting for that freedom is worth 10 hired goons or 100 subjugated peasants forced to fight for a system that keeps them in servitude. The story of the Greeks in the film '300' demonstrates that.
I indeed mean classic liberalism.

How are you going to defend a free nation of homos and drag queens against muslim-jihadis?

Homos and drag queens are NOT the prodocts of classical liberal liberty. They are the product of immorallity caused by the deliberate subversiveness of neo-liberal facsists.

Even in these times, homos are less than 2.5% of population.

I would also remind you that the only 2 countries that even come close to being a true democracies are the USA and Switzerland. The fanatical adherence to principals of liberty has left the USA and Switzerland as the only countries with  armed civillian populations that can defend themselves. Neither country has been invaded, either.
Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on February 20, 2008, 12:19:03 PM
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So you agree that our pluralistic democratic model is doomed?
Do you agree, that a right-wing Church must be in control of state-power and army, to destroy Islam and marxist elements (the majority) of Christian leaders, and of course Atheism?

No, a right-wing Church may even organise a new crusade. I believe in secular (NOT LEFTIST SECULARIST) patrotism to handle politics in European countries, based in reason, not dogmas. But at the same time open-minded enough to listen to the religious.
Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: Ambiorix on February 20, 2008, 12:27:36 PM


Isn't it more realistic to have a brutal theocracy, to root out Islam, Atheism, and White&Jew-haters.

No theocracy is the history of the world has EVER rooted out Jew haters. Theocracies are dominated by Jew-haters.

No theocracy has EVER had freedom or liberty for it's citizens.

Biblical Israel may be an exception, but it is a guarantee of totalitarianism in the nations.

The Founding Fathers of America triumphed over tyranny and created a country where "anti-semitism would have no quarter" with liberty, not dictatorship.


So , in your opinion, the defending of liberal values, against all forms of totalitarism is the way to go to smash Islam?

Liberalism is NOT liberty. Unless you mean the classical liberalism of America's founding fathers.

Totalitarianism IS the enemy. iSSlamic totalitarianism, neo-liberal facsism, communism...............all forms of totalitarianism with only a differnce clothing.

Freedom is the only thing that works economically, socially, morally and even militarilly. Freedom is also the greatest weapon. A free man fighting for that freedom is worth 10 hired goons or 100 subjugated peasants forced to fight for a system that keeps them in servitude. The story of the Greeks in the film '300' demonstrates that.
I indeed mean classic liberalism.

How are you going to defend a free nation of homos and drag queens against muslim-jihadis?

Homos and drag queens are NOT the prodocts of classical liberal liberty. They are the product of immorallity caused by the deliberate subversiveness of neo-liberal facsists.

Even in these times, homos are less than 2.5% of population.

I would also remind you that the only 2 countries that even come close to being a true democracies are the USA and Switzerland. The fanatical adherence to principals of liberty has left the USA and Switzerland as the only countries with  armed civillian populations that can defend themselves. Neither country has been invaded, either.
Today more than 50% of the men and women of White decent in the world are morally perverse people.

How can we reverse the mentality of the 85% of the people, that are indoctrinated by the neo-liberal fascist press and media?
By creating another media?  Or by destroying the media?

Both countries USA and Switserland are on the verge of destruction by submersion of non-white invaders.
I don't see how Switserland can defend itself against a muslim take-over, if 50% of her population will be -equally armed- muslims.
How will the Anglos in the USA defend themselves if they are outnumbered?

the USA and Israel, EU, ...  have a bolshevik governments, how long will it take for them to fall, unless a miracle happens?
Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: Ambiorix on February 20, 2008, 12:28:39 PM
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So you agree that our pluralistic democratic model is doomed?
Do you agree, that a right-wing Church must be in control of state-power and army, to destroy Islam and marxist elements (the majority) of Christian leaders, and of course Atheism?

No, a right-wing Church may even organise a new crusade. I believe in secular (NOT LEFTIST SECULARIST) patrotism to handle politics in European countries, based in reason, not dogmas. But at the same time open-minded enough to listen to the religious.
How to remove from power the leftists, both religious and non-religious ones?
Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: newman on February 20, 2008, 12:37:07 PM

Today more than 50% of the men and women of White decent in the world are morally perverse people.
That's not true. They may not be saints, but to say '50% perverse' is a gross exageration.
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How can we reverse the mentality of the 85% of the people, that are indoctrinated by the neo-liberal fascist press and media?
By creating another media?  Or by destroying the media?
By winning the debate, winning public opinion and gaining power with popular support. If you can't get popular support, you'll never form a theocracy with the power to take control. So why not do it democratically?

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Both countries USA and Switserland are on the verge of destruction by submersion of non-white invaders.
I don't see how Switserland can defend itself against a muslim take-over, if 50% of her population will be -equally armed- muslims.
How will the Anglos in the USA defend themselves if they are outnumbered?

There are a tiny % of muSSlim citizens in both countries. less than half the 5 million arabs (in a population of 300 million) in the USA are muSSlim. Most muSSlims in switzerland are guest workers and not allowed to buy rifles.

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the USA and Israel, EU, ...  have a bolshevik governments, how long will it take for them to fall, unless a miracle happens?

Irrellevant question because the populations of neither country will accept a theocracy. In the US, the only way of taking power undemocratically is by the army. And the US Defense forces will never, ever do that.
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Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on February 20, 2008, 12:57:50 PM
Quote
So you agree that our pluralistic democratic model is doomed?
Do you agree, that a right-wing Church must be in control of state-power and army, to destroy Islam and marxist elements (the majority) of Christian leaders, and of course Atheism?

No, a right-wing Church may even organise a new crusade. I believe in secular (NOT LEFTIST SECULARIST) patrotism to handle politics in European countries, based in reason, not dogmas. But at the same time open-minded enough to listen to the religious.
How to remove from power the leftists, both religious and non-religious ones?

Well, European countries are democracies. Leftists are in power because the people have put them there. So the first step is to change people's mentality. People must act according to reason, not to twisted feelings and hate. People of different ideas must learn to be honest and side with what is good for the Homeland, not with what just bashes the other. It's a question of mutual trust. I belive in a kind of political "cease fire" between right and left.
For example, we have the dispute between the religious who support only "Creationism" is taught at schools, and atheists who claim only "Evolutionism". If each side is in contant fear of the other, they will take any opportunity to prevail through extremism, banning the other, lest the other bans him first. If we follow that path, the Europe is doomed. But if we trust each other, and hold an intermediate rational position, having each one the freedom to hold his belief, then we can make our countries stronger. Only fundamentalist divided countries fall.
Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: newman on February 20, 2008, 01:03:52 PM
The old lables of 'left' and 'right' are almost out-moded.

Whether one believs in tariff protection, minimum wages or free hospitals is largely irrelevant. There only those who believe in good or evil, freedom or compulsion, oppression or liberty.
Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: Ultra Requete on February 21, 2008, 06:51:24 AM
I prefer an atheist who is prepared to adhere to the principals of individual freedom and liberty than a muSSlim who wants to forcibly convert, enslave, rape and kill everybody else.

Me too, I prefer them in muslime Arabic countries becouse it will make them weak and ultimetly detroy them; Why do you think the NWO/Iluminati crowd don't want PC and multicultism in non western countries? ::)
Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: newman on February 21, 2008, 06:58:38 AM
I prefer an atheist who is prepared to adhere to the principals of individual freedom and liberty than a muSSlim who wants to forcibly convert, enslave, rape and kill everybody else.

Me too, I prefer them in muslime Arabic countries becouse it will make them weak and ultimetly detroy them; Why do you think the NWO/Iluminati crowd don't want PC and multicultism in non western countries? ::)

I think you're wrong about the NWO crowd.

The NWO people are multinational businesses. Their plan is simple. Solve the mideast peace problem by crushing Israel. Then (so they THINK) they'll give all the arabs a fatory job at US$500/month so they can buy a Korean TV and a Chinese car and that will make them forget religion and become peasants in the NWO global slave state.

This naivity is based on their own ignorance of religious conviction. They only support fanatics now to make their case for destroying Israel more urgent to the scared westerners.
Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: Ambiorix on February 21, 2008, 07:00:52 AM
I prefer an atheist who is prepared to adhere to the principals of individual freedom and liberty than a muSSlim who wants to forcibly convert, enslave, rape and kill everybody else.

Me too, I prefer them in muslime Arabic countries becouse it will make them weak and ultimetly detroy them; Why do you think the NWO/Iluminati crowd don't want PC and multicultism in non western countries? ::)

Sorry, you're wrong.
You don't support atheists "here", because it could benifit us "there".
Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: Ultra Requete on February 21, 2008, 07:07:19 AM
I prefer an atheist who is prepared to adhere to the principals of individual freedom and liberty than a muSSlim who wants to forcibly convert, enslave, rape and kill everybody else.

Me too, I prefer them in muslime Arabic countries becouse it will make them weak and ultimetly detroy them; Why do you think the NWO/Iluminati crowd don't want PC and multicultism in non western countries? ::)

Sorry, you're wrong.
You don't support atheists "here", because it could benifit us "there".


Any weapon is fair and proper when used against Muslimes... A-bombs, Bio agents, even Comunism. I personaly advocate BAR and neutron bombs.;)
Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: Ambiorix on February 21, 2008, 08:21:04 AM
I prefer an atheist who is prepared to adhere to the principals of individual freedom and liberty than a muSSlim who wants to forcibly convert, enslave, rape and kill everybody else.

Me too, I prefer them in muslime Arabic countries becouse it will make them weak and ultimetly detroy them; Why do you think the NWO/Iluminati crowd don't want PC and multicultism in non western countries? ::)

Sorry, you're wrong.
You don't support atheists "here", because it could benifit us "there".


Any weapon is fair and proper when used against Muslimes... A-bombs, Bio agents, even Comunism. I personaly advocate BAR and neutron bombs.;)

In principle I can't disagree with you on this.

But when flattening SAudi-R-apia we must take care no mushroom clouds endager Israel.

I don't know if it is possible to use A&H&N-Bombs without endangering Israel.
Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: Ultra Requete on February 21, 2008, 09:59:14 AM
I prefer an atheist who is prepared to adhere to the principals of individual freedom and liberty than a muSSlim who wants to forcibly convert, enslave, rape and kill everybody else.

Me too, I prefer them in muslime Arabic countries becouse it will make them weak and ultimetly detroy them; Why do you think the NWO/Iluminati crowd don't want PC and multicultism in non western countries? ::)

Sorry, you're wrong.
You don't support atheists "here", because it could benifit us "there".


Any weapon is fair and proper when used against Muslimes... A-bombs, Bio agents, even Comunism. I personaly advocate BAR and neutron bombs.;)

In principle I can't disagree with you on this.

But when flattening SAudi-R-apia we must take care no mushroom clouds endager Israel.

I don't know if it is possible to use A&H&N-Bombs without endangering Israel.

Neutron bombs are relativly clean they cook the brians which can be a problem in case of A-rabs ;)  plus as bonus they will not destroy oil fields and infrastructure...  O0

Boing Boing exclusive: profile of neutron bomb inventor
Posted by Mark Frauenfelder, August 16, 2005 2:24 PM | permalink
I'm thrilled to present a Boing Boing exclusive: a profile of Sam Cohen, the man who invented the Neutron Bomb. Charles Platt wrote this 10,000 word article, titled "The Profits of Fear" and it is available in a few different formats: a smartly-designed PDF (laid out by Charles), a Palm OS document, HTML,and plain text.
The neutron bomb is an incredibly strange weapon. From the profile:

 Cohen came up with a design for a warhead about one-tenth as powerful as the atomic bombs dropped on Japan. If it was detonated at 3,000 feet above ground level, its blast effects would be negligible while its neutron radiation would be powerful enough to cause death within a circle about one mile in diameter. This was the battlefield weapon that came to be known as the neutron bomb.
Such a weapon obviously would be more civilized than large-scale hydrogen bombs, and would also be more humane than conventional bombs, because it would create an all-or-nothing, live-or-die scenario in which no one would be wounded. A stream of neutrons cannot maim people. It will not burn their flesh, spill their blood, or break their bones. Those who receive a non-lethal dose will recover after a period of intense nausea and diarrhea, and Cohen estimated that their risk of subsequent cancer would be no greater than the risk we experience as a result of exposure to second-hand cigarette smoke. As for the rest, death would come relatively quickly, primarily from shock to the central nervous system. As he put it in his typically candid style, "I doubt whether the agony an irradiated soldier goes through in the process of dying is any worse than that produced by having your body charred to a crisp by napalm, your guts being ripped apart by shrapnel, your lungs blown in by concussion weapons, and all those other sweet things that happen when conventional weapons (which are preferred and anointed by our official policy) are used."

After assessing every aspect and implication of his concept, he reached his modest conclusion: "The neutron bomb has to be the most moral weapon ever invented."

http://www.boingboing.net/2005/08/16/boing-boing-exclusiv.html


Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: Mstislav on February 26, 2008, 11:24:32 AM
I love the first two. Fares Karam is not a muslim, though. He is a Lebanese Maronite Christian. I do not know about the other two.
Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: Mstislav on February 26, 2008, 11:28:09 AM
They are making money out of it and can sing.

Forget even the music Ambiorix, the culture itself is changing as shown through the lax behaviour in the videos.......you don't get whipped for wearing a T-shirt if you're a woman....you can work freely etc.
Maybe in Northern Lebanon. Music and 'lax behaviour' is not allowed in islam. You of all people should know that.
Title: Re: Arab countries are not so backwards -Music
Post by: Sarah on February 26, 2008, 04:05:49 PM
They are making money out of it and can sing.

Forget even the music Ambiorix, the culture itself is changing as shown through the lax behaviour in the videos.......you don't get whipped for wearing a T-shirt if you're a woman....you can work freely etc.
Maybe in Northern Lebanon. Music and 'lax behaviour' is not allowed in islam. You of all people should know that.

Course I do and that is why the music shows that things are changing. People are ignoring Islam in the arab world.