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Kahanist Singles => Jewish Singles => Topic started by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on September 11, 2007, 08:11:09 PM
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Pardon me if this is an offensive subject, but I want your feedback:
Is the popular term "Jap" (or J.A.P.) (for "Jewish American Princess", meaning of course attractive, young, wealthy, secular, sexually liberal Jewish women) offensive to you all? Some of my friends use it (to describe girls meeting these criteria they knew growing up, not as a slur to attack all Jewish women), and I have too with them, not thinking it is anti-Semitic but rather a term for a very specific group, but is this okay?
Thanks,
Chaimfan
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Most people use Jap as an abbreviation for Japanese.
I think what you are referring to, as in the people who use that to refer to Jews, are using it as a form of Jew hatred. Why some Jews associate with people like that who hate Jews is mind-boggling.
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I would say no but i'm a guy, what would i know
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Maybe,It depends on who is saying it and in what context...
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My friend who uses this term is a Christian Zionist and definitely does NOT mean it as a slur on all Jews, or even the specific women he was describing. He assumes it only means that specific category of Jewish women, and in fact he describes them (from his childhood) with fond memories.
I obviously wouldn't just go around saying this, and neither would he, but do you all think it is wrong to use this term even on a very private basis with people who won't misconstrue your intentions?
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Well what is supposed to be the purpose of the term then? Would your friend want people to have a term called CAP, which could stand for Christian American Princess? I don't think your friend would see a purpose of having a term like that.
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I don't think the connotation of the word "Jap" is antisemetic. The word has come to be known more for personality traits of a girl more than what each letter stands for. If a gentile girl has these same type of spoiled, arrogant, bitchy, and vain character traits, they are just as much of a Jap as a Jewish girl. Italian girls like this are sometimes referred to as "guidettes", but for all intents and purposes, both of those terms can be used interchangeably to describe any girls like this, regardless of religion or ethnicity.
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I had to vote I dont know because I dont know anyone who has ever been called that so I dont know if they would find it offensive. I DO know a few girls who think they deserve the HRH title...and would wear that name quite proudly because they think the sun rises and sets for them :D
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I agree that it depends on the context and who is saying it.
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Sadly JAP, Jewish American Princess, is accurate. Horrible creatures. Best to be avoided at all costs. :-\
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I've dated several JAPS. They are spoiled Jews.
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The Australian equivalent, Jewish Australian Princess are just as nasty and disgusting. It is not a slur but an accurate acronym.
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I think of Japanese first. I don't think of "Jewish American Princess."
And btw, while it is questionable if Germans have changed, I believe the Japanese have.
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I thought that's the thread about yellow Japs. ::) so i voted know; as long as at's the dicreption of someones character not nationality it's not rascist/anti semitic.
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The germans will never change, they are inbred with hatred, as are the croats. Croatia is a disgusting infestation of a country and croats are beasts that should all be killed.
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EagleEye: "...while it is questionable if Germans have changed, I believe the Japanese have..."
Anti-Semitic books and literature are among the #1 sellers in Japan for quite some time now.
I asked a Japanese friend about this.
He said that it was true, but not for the same reasons that other people read such things...
He claimed that the Japanese read Anti-Semitic literature because they actually believe every lie and myth about "The Jew"...and are very jealous!...They want to be the world's #1 "sneaky liar and demon controller of the world!...And so they study these books in order to learn the secrets of "Jew" and steal (in typical Jap style) all of the "Jewish Secrets".
He told me this in great seriousness.
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lol they want to steal Jewish tactics for themselves...not that I even agree such tactics exist.
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It's an accurate acronym for secular, mean-spirited and overly materialistic Jewish women/girls.
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EagleEye: "...while it is questionable if Germans have changed, I believe the Japanese have..."
Anti-Semitic books and literature are among the #1 sellers in Japan for quite some time now.
I asked a Japanese friend about this.
He said that it was true, but not for the same reasons that other people read such things...
He claimed that the Japanese read Anti-Semitic literature because they actually believe every lie and myth about "The Jew"...and are very jealous!...They want to be the world's #1 "sneaky liar and demon controller of the world!...And so they study these books in order to learn the secrets of "Jew" and steal (in typical Jap style) all of the "Jewish Secrets".
He told me this in great seriousness.
One of my Japanese friend had told me the whole anti-semitic thing is mainly related to the protocols of Zion, but he said it isn't really a mainstream thing in Japan and is commonly read by the leftist/communist sympathizers like the ones obsessed with North Korea and China. Japan was actually good to the Jews during world war II, Chiune Sugihara saved thousands of Jews from death by getting them passports to Japan. They also refused to give the Jews to Germany.
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The fact that they call themselves Jewish American Princesses shows that they are first and foremost American and Jewish is just an adjective describing what kind of American they are. Real Jews are Jews first and American second. JAPs are self-hating Jews.
That is true ......or they could both be describing what kind of princesses they are. ;D
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Most of the Jews in America are reform Jewish, and liberals politically too. Reform Judaism is Judaism for atheists.
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Pardon me if this is an offensive subject, but I want your feedback:
Is the popular term "Jap" (or J.A.P.) (for "Jewish American Princess", meaning of course attractive, young, wealthy, secular, sexually liberal Jewish women) offensive to you all? Some of my friends use it (to describe girls meeting these criteria they knew growing up, not as a slur to attack all Jewish women), and I have too with them, not thinking it is anti-Semitic but rather a term for a very specific group, but is this okay?
Thanks,
Chaimfan
I personally would never use the term [J.A.P.] WHEN REFERING TO JEWISH WOMEN I ALWAYS SAY THE DAUGHTERS OF ABRAHAM.
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I think that most of the time when people use the term J.A.P. they are using it with anti-Semitic intentions but the term itself isn't necessarily anti-Semitic. It's a quite accurate description of many American Jewish women who do perceive themselves in this way. It depends on who's using it and the context.
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Well... I saw a "Jewish American Princess" graphic for myspace at a website, so apparently some Jewish girls are proud of the label although I personally dislike it, it is better to be warm, kind, down-to-earth etc.. RATHER than act like a spoiled brat!
Of course, there are also APS...African Princesses. I once was unfortunate to hear an APS woman on a radio-talk show telling the host that SHE (although born in America as well as her family for many generations) was actually descended from African royalty and should be "THE QUEEN OF AFRICA!!!!!"
I was laughing very hard!
" We be kings & queens in africa, mmmm hmmm".
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The germans will never change, they are inbred with hatred, as are the croats. Croatia is a disgusting infestation of a country and croats are beasts that should all be killed.
Germans are mostly pro-Israel today, in fact I doubt they have ever been anti-Semite. During WWII most Germans didn't even know about the Holocaust. While Poles did know and, even though they were meant for anihilation together with the Jews, they supported the Nazis, ymach shemam
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The germans will never change, they are inbred with hatred, as are the croats. Croatia is a disgusting infestation of a country and croats are beasts that should all be killed.
Germans are mostly pro-Israel today, in fact I doubt they have ever been anti-Semite. During WWII most Germans didn't even know about the Holocaust. While Poles did know and, even though they were meant for anihilation together with the Jews, they supported the Nazis, ymach shemam
Raul,
I'd pull that post unless you wanna get flamed.
The germans today are as big a bunch of nazis as ever. They always vote against Israel & support the arabs who want to murder the Jews.
And they knew full well about the holocaust. How could all those Jews disappear from the cities & towns of germany without them knowing?
They voted shitler in knowing he had an anti-semitic platform.
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Well, my mother was a Goyah and Catholic, she didn't even know who the Jews were ( until I intended to convert to Judaism), but she had strictly forbidden to sing German songs at home while she lived, and of course she forbade to pronounce the name "Hitler" even when studying history so I had to use "the bad man", or something like that, when reading my history homeworks for school aloud.
But now I have read many surveys which show that the higher percentage of favorable opinions about Israel is in Germany, and lowest in France and nordic countries
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No European countries have a favourable opinion of Israel. The only countries where there is favourable opinion of Israel is the USA and the Federated States of Micronesia. Europe as a whole has always been a G-dless and disgusting continent of Jew hatred.
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The germans will never change, they are inbred with hatred, as are the croats. Croatia is a disgusting infestation of a country and croats are beasts that should all be killed.
Germans are mostly pro-Israel today, in fact I doubt they have ever been anti-Semite. During WWII most Germans didn't even know about the Holocaust. While Poles did know and, even though they were meant for anihilation together with the Jews, they supported the Nazis, ymach shemam
Poland is pro Israeli; and don't say such silly things; Gemans knew that something was hapenning with deported Jews in east; there were relations of soldiers on leaves, rumors etc.. thay choosed not to see. And no Pole supported German nazim ocupant during war There were no Quislinqs there; there were people who denounce the jews for money but they were judged for treason and executed by resistance; Despite that Poland was only country in which any help towards Jews was punished by death; they're 6000 trees planted rightues along the nations in Yad vashem the biggest number along all nations. If Polish suported nazis why Poland was invaded in first place? What Argentine did against Hitler and Holocaust during WW2 besides supling him with grain?
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Well, I have seen the Schindler's List film and read the book as well. There is a paragraph saying that many Polish Jews, who ignored the future Holocaust, were willing to be taken to a Ghetto out of the great fear they felt of Poles. Besides that, I don't know the whole history of the Holocaust in detail.
Anyway, I use to avoid buying anything made in France (except madicines) b/c of the great anti- Semitism of the French Govt. On the other side I have no problem with German products. As I said, my mother who lived in the time of WWII rejected anything related to Germany ( even though she was a Gentile and born in Agentna).
I think it is a matter of feelings and the experiences people have lived. It does not neccessrily reflect the real situation. Of course it is fully understandable that Jews or other Peoples who suffered Nazism will have bad feelings about Germany.
Regarding Argentina, I agree with you. My country did little to stop the Genocide, and the worst of all is not what they did or didn't in the past, but what they do today. Argentina has its embassy outside Jerusalem and many Argentinians are pro-Palis.
Regarding the term JAP I found it to be offensive and derogatory. If it means a "Sexually liberal Jewess...".... why not trying to rech these women and help them to return to Torah, rather than creating a word to refer to them?
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I agree with Newman and New Yorker. The J.A.P. acronym is totally accurate. It has nothing to do with anti-semitism. I know, because I grew up with these girls, who could make rattlesnakes look cuddly by comparison. And I'm dead serious.
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I agree with Newman and New Yorker. The J.A.P. acronym is totally accurate. It has nothing to do with anti-semitism. I know, because I grew up with these girls, who could make rattlesnakes look cuddly by comparison. And I'm dead serious.
I thought you were one until you said you were sephardic...or was it persian? ;D
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Newman, you really thought I was a J.A.P???? Whatever gave you that impression?
And yes, my parents are Iranian Jews.
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Newman, you really thought I was a J.A.P???? Whatever gave you that impression?
And yes, my parents are Iranian Jews.
I just assumed because you lived in Manhattan. Silly of me, I know. :-[