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Punch with a firm wrist and a loose fist. NOT the other way around (as so many people do).
Tight fists lead to broken bones (and not for the other person).
Practice on something soft like a mattress until this technique becomes automatic. Your punching power will be increased tenfold!
A loose fist gives the hand considerable shock-absorbing ability, and a firm wrist is clearly necessary as well. A great puncher will NEVER bend his wrist upon striking a target the way most women and boys do.
When the wrist is firm, the fist AUTOMATICALLY takes on a degree of firmness. Moreover, keeping the fist loose and plyable will allow for maximum punching power--A firm fist is a broken fist.
Once a person learns how to make a proper fist, he or she can then strike using all of his or her body weight.
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Punch with a firm wrist and a loose fist. NOT the other way around (as so many people do).
Tight fists lead to broken bones (and not for the other person).
Practice on something soft like a mattress until this technique becomes automatic. Your punching power will be increased tenfold!
thats a great idea if you want to break the bones in your hand.
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Punch with a firm wrist and a loose fist. NOT the other way around (as so many people do).
Tight fists lead to broken bones (and not for the other person).
Practice on something soft like a mattress until this technique becomes automatic. Your punching power will be increased tenfold!
thats a great idea if you want to break the bones in your hand.
As usual, you're 180 degrees off on this Wolfowitz.
A tight fist with a loose wrist is what leads to broken bones.
I guarantee that I punch MUCH harder than you do Wolfowitz.
Anyhow, I don't think that anyone who gets sick looking at JTF.ORG is worth taking punching advice from.
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Punch with a firm wrist and a loose fist. NOT the other way around (as so many people do).
Tight fists lead to broken bones (and not for the other person).
Practice on something soft like a mattress until this technique becomes automatic. Your punching power will be increased tenfold!
thats a great idea if you want to break the bones in your hand.
As usual, you're 180 degrees off on this Wolfowitz.
A tight fist with a loose wrist is what leads to broken bones.
I guarantee that I punch MUCH harder than you do Wolfowitz.
Anyhow, I don't think that anyone who gets sick looking at JTF.ORG is worth taking punching advice from.
its well documented jews cant fight, look at world war 2
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Punch with a firm wrist and a loose fist. NOT the other way around (as so many people do).
Tight fists lead to broken bones (and not for the other person).
Practice on something soft like a mattress until this technique becomes automatic. Your punching power will be increased tenfold!
thats a great idea if you want to break the bones in your hand.
As usual, you're 180 degrees off on this Wolfowitz.
A tight fist with a loose wrist is what leads to broken bones.
I guarantee that I punch MUCH harder than you do Wolfowitz.
Anyhow, I don't think that anyone who gets sick looking at JTF.ORG is worth taking punching advice from.
its well documented jews cant fight, look at world war 2
1) I'm not a Jew. 2) Your name is Wolfowitz. 3) Real Jews CAN fight.
Or was King David just like Woody Allen and Larry King?
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I guarantee that I punch MUCH harder than you do Wolfowitz.
i could break your nose, but who would notice? besides you'd probably do better headbutting someone with that box on your head.
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Punch with a firm wrist and a loose fist. NOT the other way around (as so many people do).
Tight fists lead to broken bones (and not for the other person).
Practice on something soft like a mattress until this technique becomes automatic. Your punching power will be increased tenfold!
thats a great idea if you want to break the bones in your hand.
As usual, you're 180 degrees off on this Wolfowitz.
A tight fist with a loose wrist is what leads to broken bones.
I guarantee that I punch MUCH harder than you do Wolfowitz.
Anyhow, I don't think that anyone who gets sick looking at JTF.ORG is worth taking punching advice from.
its well documented jews cant fight, look at world war 2
1) I'm not a Jew. 2) Your name is Wolfowitz. 3) Real Jews CAN fight.
Or was King David just like Woody Allen and Larry King?
you can tell people on the internet you can punch hard. i bet my bottom $ your a real fearsome sight of a 16 year old
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I guarantee that I punch MUCH harder than you do Wolfowitz.
i could break your nose, but who would notice? besides you'd probably do better headbutting someone with that box on your head.
Headbutting is a great technique...and our respective intellectual abilities are WELL documented on this forum. :)
Break my nose? :D
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I guarantee that I punch MUCH harder than you do Wolfowitz.
i could break your nose, but who would notice? besides you'd probably do better headbutting someone with that box on your head.
Headbutting is a great technique...and our respective intellectual abilities are WELL documented on this forum. :)
Break my nose? :D
documented by who? each other? it's a real shame your intellect doesn't stretch to your boxing tips
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Punch with a firm wrist and a loose fist. NOT the other way around (as so many people do).
Tight fists lead to broken bones (and not for the other person).
Practice on something soft like a mattress until this technique becomes automatic. Your punching power will be increased tenfold!
thats a great idea if you want to break the bones in your hand.
As usual, you're 180 degrees off on this Wolfowitz.
A tight fist with a loose wrist is what leads to broken bones.
I guarantee that I punch MUCH harder than you do Wolfowitz.
Anyhow, I don't think that anyone who gets sick looking at JTF.ORG is worth taking punching advice from.
its well documented jews cant fight, look at world war 2
1) I'm not a Jew. 2) Your name is Wolfowitz. 3) Real Jews CAN fight.
Or was King David just like Woody Allen and Larry King?
you can tell people on the internet you can punch hard. i bet my bottom $ your a real fearsome sight of a 16 year old
As usual, 180 degrees off. I will be 32 this month. And weren't you just criicizing my punching skills only moments ago?
Do you have anything you want to debate? This is boring me.
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I guarantee that I punch MUCH harder than you do Wolfowitz.
i could break your nose, but who would notice? besides you'd probably do better headbutting someone with that box on your head.
Headbutting is a great technique...and our respective intellectual abilities are WELL documented on this forum. :)
Break my nose? :D
documented by who? each other? it's a real shame your intellect doesn't stretch to your boxing tips
Read my posts and I'll read yours.
All the evidence we need is in there. ;)
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This topic is great.
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your 32? what utter rubbish. and what would you like to debate? primates?
you are clearly a liar or a plain old [censored] (especially with regard to your boxing tips)
anyway i have to go now, but before i do i will put you on ignore as i feel dumber for having read your posts.
salaam and inshallah
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and telling jews not to be tight fisted. get real
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Putting someone on an ignore list is the ultimate form of defamation, i.e. the ultimate admission that you do not know how to debate.
BTW tight fists don't hurt as much as loose ones.
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Though knowing how to fight is important, it is also important to know that it must be a last resort.
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Though knowing how to fight is important, it is also important to know that it must be a last resort.
Of course.
Rabbi Kahane said, "A good Jewish fist has to be connected to a good Jewish head." (This statement of course applies to all people.)
Rabbi Kahane also said, "You can not reason with unreasonable people."
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From experience I can say that it is sometimes possible to reason with unreasonable people, but it is very difficult, and very painful.
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Wow!
Thanks, Scriabin. This is a wealth of self-defence advice!
:dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance:
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What, are you reading my mind now?
I just bought a punching bag today.....
:laugh:
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What, are you reading my mind now?
I just bought a punching bag today.....
:laugh:
Wonderful. Take what I said to heart, its the secret to powerful punching.
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Punch with a firm wrist and a loose fist. NOT the other way around (as so many people do).
Tight fists lead to broken bones (and not for the other person).
Practice on something soft like a mattress until this technique becomes automatic. Your punching power will be increased tenfold!
A loose fist gives the hand considerable shock-absorbing ability, and a firm wrist is clearly necessary as well. A great puncher will NEVER bend his wrist upon striking a target the way most women and boys do.
When the wrist is firm, the fist AUTOMATICALLY takes on a degree of firmness. Moreover, keeping the fist loose and plyable will allow for maximum punching power--A firm fist is a broken fist.
Once a person learns how to make a proper fist, he or she can then strike using all of his or her body weight.
what do you suggest regarding what part of the fist to strike with?
many say the 2 knuckles, the big one in the middle and the index finger one.
I once saw somebody almost make a terrible mistake.. very painful to watch. I stopped him!!! He went up to a punching machine and put his thumb -in- his fist and pulled his arm back!!
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Punch with a firm wrist and a loose fist. NOT the other way around (as so many people do).
Tight fists lead to broken bones (and not for the other person).
Practice on something soft like a mattress until this technique becomes automatic. Your punching power will be increased tenfold!
A loose fist gives the hand considerable shock-absorbing ability, and a firm wrist is clearly necessary as well. A great puncher will NEVER bend his wrist upon striking a target the way most women and boys do.
When the wrist is firm, the fist AUTOMATICALLY takes on a degree of firmness. Moreover, keeping the fist loose and plyable will allow for maximum punching power--A firm fist is a broken fist.
Once a person learns how to make a proper fist, he or she can then strike using all of his or her body weight.
what do you suggest regarding what part of the fist to strike with?
many say the 2 knuckles, the big one in the middle and the index finger one.
No, no.
Strike with the ring and pinky-finger knuckles.
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No, no.
Strike with the ring and pinky-finger knuckles.
I've heard of many punching with those knuckles.. or maybe 3 knuckles. Those 2 and the big one.
But I also just read this comment online.. As an argument to use the first 2. (i.e. not ring and pinky)
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The alignment of the bones of the knuckles and the hand and wrist are
straighter when you strike with the first two knuckles. The knuckle is a joint
formed by the metacarpals and proximal phalanges. This joint called the
metacarpal-phalangeal joint (MCP joint) is larger and stronger in the first two
knuckles. These are the best anatomic reasons to strike with these two joints.
You should know that there is a specific fracture called a Boxer's fracture
which results when you strike with your last knuckle, either by rolling your
punch from the stronger first two knuckles to the last ones or by direct blow
to the last or 5th MCP joint. These fractures most often occur in fist
fights or when one punches the wall in frustration with your bare hands and
poor technique. When you wear boxing gloves, the distribution of impact to the
other MCP joints and phalanges reduces the chance of fracture. I would not
medically recommend, however, that you strike or roll your punch onto the
weaker joints."
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No, no.
Strike with the ring and pinky-finger knuckles.
I've heard of many punching with those knuckles.. or maybe 3 knuckles. Those 2 and the big one.
But I also just read this online.. As an argument to use the first 2. (i.e. not ring and pinky)
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The alignment of the bones of the knuckles and the hand and wrist are
straighter when you strike with the first two knuckles. The knuckle is a joint
formed by the metacarpals and proximal phalanges. This joint called the
metacarpal-phalangeal joint (MCP joint) is larger and stronger in the first two
knuckles. These are the best anatomic reasons to strike with these two joints.
You should know that there is a specific fracture called a Boxer's fracture
which results when you strike with your last knuckle, either by rolling your
punch from the stronger first two knuckles to the last ones or by direct blow
to the last or 5th MCP joint. These fractures most often occur in fist
fights or when one punches the wall in frustration with your bare hands and
poor technique. When you wear boxing gloves, the distribution of impact to the
other MCP joints and phalanges reduces the chance of fracture. I would not
medically recommend, however, that you strike or roll your punch onto the
weaker joints."
Do whatever you want.
It makes no difference to me.
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Do whatever you want.
It makes no difference to me.
reality should make a difference to you though.
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Do whatever you want.
It makes no difference to me.
reality should make a difference to you though.
You're the expert, take your own advice.
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Who is the Real Scriabin, the Honourable Winged Member or the Guest?
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Who is the Real Scriabin, the Honourable Winged Member or the Guest?
If one of them wasn't him i'm sure he'd have kicked up a fuss.
He seems to be behaving far better than he has in the past! I think he's even trying to be friendlier with people so that they agree with him on other issues!
Normally he is cursing other members.
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Scriabin - is an Honorable Winged Member on this forum.
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Who is the Real Scriabin, the Honourable Winged Member or the Guest?
his Guest ones are from 2006.
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What, are you reading my mind now?
I just bought a punching bag today.....
:laugh:
Wonderful. Take what I said to heart, its the secret to powerful punching.
Ok, I have to teach my son, also.....so I appreciate this.....
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*starts looking around for the garden hose to turn on..... :::D
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I was recently the recipient of a carefully prepared right hook from a fearesome-looking (white) contribution to society, less than half my age, who was trying (unsuccessfully) to rob our Post Office. It sent me sprawling across the room, but I remained able to fight him off long enough for the alarm to be raised. I still can't work out why I wasn't left unconscious..I didn't even have a mark. I wondered if he was doing something wrong.
By the way, he was identified by fingerprints, CCTV, witnesses, and admitting the whole thing to others. Shortly after the event the police were given his name and address. What did he get? Nothing. Welcome to the UK.
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I was recently the recipient of a carefully prepared right hook from a fearesome-looking (white) contribution to society, less than half my age, who was trying (unsuccessfully) to rob our Post Office. It sent me sprawling across the room, but I remained able to fight him off long enough for the alarm to be raised. I still can't work out why I wasn't left unconscious..I didn't even have a mark. I wondered if he was doing something wrong.
By the way, he was identified by fingerprints, CCTV, witnesses, and admitting the whole thing to others. Shortly after the event the police were given his name and address. What did he get? Nothing. Welcome to the UK.
regarding it not leaving a mark-
maybe you saw it coming and jumped out of the way at the same speed as his hand, at the time the hand connected. I guess you moved your torso back quickly and lost balance
There have been two instances when I played table tennis that I managed to do a weird winning and almost unreturnable shot that nobody understood.. as if the ball was glued to the bat! The similarity with your situation must have been as the bat came back.
regarding you not going unconscious.. I did have an exercise book written by a boxer, which said that you get knocked out if your head moves too fast.. that can happen if somebody throws a good punch and you have a weak neck..
http://www.rossboxing.com/thegym/thegym15.htm
BTW, one of his exercises messed up my jaw a bit.. one where you hold your chin and push down. Years ago I tried it and did it with my mouth open..
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I have never tried hitting with a loose fist or a tight fist. I believe any blow to the gut, in a surprise move, can stop someone. My friend in law enforcement has told me a good black belt in Karate can disable someone in just seconds, if you nail them in the right places!
Neck, colarbone, groin, and back area of the kidneys.
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I have never tried hitting with a loose fist or a tight fist. I believe any blow to the gut, in a surprise move, can stop someone. My friend in law enforcement has told me a good black belt in Karate can disable someone in just seconds, if you nail them in the right places!
Neck, colarbone, groin, and back area of the kidneys.
That's true but also the Liver shot hurts a lot
Any one kicked in the balls will go down
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I Agree, the groin area for men would be a Hurtz Don't It!
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I have never tried hitting with a loose fist or a tight fist. I believe any blow to the gut, in a surprise move, can stop someone. My friend in law enforcement has told me a good black belt in Karate can disable someone in just seconds, if you nail them in the right places!
Neck, colarbone, groin, and back area of the kidneys.
That's true but also the Liver shot hurts a lot
Any one kicked in the balls will go down
or a knee if close range..
in what fight situations do you think it's ok to do it?
I don't normally hear of muggers kicking somebody in the groin.. do you think it'd be unprincipled to do it to them? Like it's not fighting man to man.
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I have never tried hitting with a loose fist or a tight fist. I believe any blow to the gut, in a surprise move, can stop someone. My friend in law enforcement has told me a good black belt in Karate can disable someone in just seconds, if you nail them in the right places!
Neck, colarbone, groin, and back area of the kidneys.
That's true but also the Liver shot hurts a lot
Any one kicked in the balls will go down
or a knee if close range..
in what fight situations do you think it's ok to do it?
I don't normally hear of muggers kicking somebody in the groin.. do you think it'd be unprincipled to do it to them? Like it's not fighting man to man.
Well in a fight if a guy threw a kick at you and you caught it you could punch the face then the gut then if you were quick enough you could go to a standing crucifix where you could unload 1 knee after another.
With that you could go to the ground and put a crucifix on the ground and choke him out
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Well in a fight if a guy threw a kick at you and you caught it you could punch the face then the gut then if you were quick enough you could go to a standing crucifix where you could unload 1 knee after another.
With that you could go to the ground and put a crucifix on the ground and choke him out
looking at the standing crucifix demonstrated here,
how did he pull his head down and under the same arm that he hit him with?
did he grab his ear and yank?!
http://www.expertvillage.com/video/145251_jujitsu-standing-crucifix.htm
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Well in a fight if a guy threw a kick at you and you caught it you could punch the face then the gut then if you were quick enough you could go to a standing crucifix where you could unload 1 knee after another.
With that you could go to the ground and put a crucifix on the ground and choke him out
looking at the standing crucifix demonstrated here,
how did he pull his head down and under the same arm that he hit him with?
did he grab his ear and yank?!
http://www.expertvillage.com/video/145251_jujitsu-standing-crucifix.htm
Not that good a clip
When you have control of a leg if he kicks.You use your free hand to go to the back of his head then in a quick motion you let the leg go while pulling his head towards your body.
You need to lock your hands together not like in the Thai clinch because it can be easily broken
Watch from 5:13 on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrO33qgzZxE&feature=channel
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I think Cro Cop's punches are so devious, if he retires, he should teach his method, make it a martial art!
bob sapp, sakuraba, josh barnett - eye sockets I think
Irritating the eye of Yamamoto whenever he wanted..
I don't see anybody else able to do anything like that!
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I think Cro Cop's punches are so devious, if he retires, he should teach his method, make it a martial art!
bob sapp, sakuraba, josh barnett - eye sockets I think
Irritating the eye of Yamamoto whenever he wanted..
I don't see anybody else able to do anything like that!
That was because they were always looking for his kick and they would not be ready for those punches he would snap off
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Whatever happened to the good old days or pinching,scratching,eye-gauging, and biting? :P
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I think Cro Cop's punches are so devious, if he retires, he should teach his method, make it a martial art!
bob sapp, sakuraba, josh barnett - eye sockets I think
Irritating the eye of Yamamoto whenever he wanted..
I don't see anybody else able to do anything like that!
That was because they were always looking for his kick and they would not be ready for those punches he would snap off
They almost all claim in interviews that it was like a finger or thumb in the eye. Yet you never really see how he did it. A suprise punch wouldn't keep doing that.. sometimes people get knocked out from a suprise punch.. But to always get their eye messed up , and in the same way, is a bit different.
And howcome we don't see that problem in kickboxing.
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I think Cro Cop's punches are so devious, if he retires, he should teach his method, make it a martial art!
bob sapp, sakuraba, josh barnett - eye sockets I think
Irritating the eye of Yamamoto whenever he wanted..
I don't see anybody else able to do anything like that!
That was because they were always looking for his kick and they would not be ready for those punches he would snap off
They almost all claim in interviews that it was like a finger or thumb in the eye. Yet you never really see how he did it. A suprise punch wouldn't keep doing that.. sometimes people get knocked out from a suprise punch.. But to always get their eye messed up , and in the same way, is a bit different.
And howcome we don't see that problem in kickboxing.
In Kickboxing there gloves are like boxing gloves just a little smaller