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Save Western Civilization => Save Serbia => Topic started by: croatian_girl on November 04, 2007, 12:14:27 AM
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Hi Fellas,
So I have been reading this forum for a little while now, observing what kind of hate a certain group of grown men (and women I assume) can fit into a text box. And I know since my nationality is already on your shitlist, nothing I say will adhere to your brains, but I don't care - I decided to write anyways.
First of all, I have to ask, how many of you have ever been to Croatia? Secondly, Croatia has a population of about 4.5 mil and yes, we do have some extremists (like any country/nationality/religion I might add) but there is majority that doesn't support any politic or propaganda. In all honesty you have to admit - since you are fighting to "Save Serbia" here, that croatian USTASA is the same thing as serbian CETNIK.I have no hate towards Serbs, despite the wars and their crazyman Milosevic, and I won't even get into the conversation of who did what or who started what, because it's pointless. I will just focus this on the "jewish part" since this is a JEWISH task force. I don't know how many of you actually look into history from different aspects, and really look into how Jews were treated in Yugoslavia - you can't seperate the countries since they were together - with a capital of Beograd which is in (drum roll please) in Serbia! So therefor you can assume where a lot of political decisions were coming from. I am not here to pass judgements onto anybody, I am here to try to get you guys to give a fare shot to a nation that lived in supression for a long time - as Jews did, and I am talking from the Austro-Hungarian times and prior.
Also, I read a comment somewhere on this forum - that xenophobia is only good if its not against Jews, which I find to be such a contradictory thing, since it seems that Jewish people victimize themselves due to their past, but at the same time they will pass the same judgements they endured onto another human being. It really makes no sense.
One more thing, in mention of Croatian tourism. I could speak of American tourisam and Israeli tourism, where people get robbed, beaten up and whatnot all the time and I know coz I live in NY and travelled all around the world.It seems this forum is just a need to collect negative points of croatia an villinize it to the max, when I am sure the same events happen in Serbia, Israel, USA, Slovenia, Italy, France etc...
I don't listen to Thompson, I don't support Nazi regime, I don't care for past issues and holding on to hate over someone who died a long [censored] time ago over something that was relevant then. Croatia deals with their negativities as much as they can, we try to improve the standard and open up eyes, but Croatian as people also have been through a lot and saw their fathers killed in a pointless war, fighting their friends who they shared dinner with the night before and laughed over the latest episodes of the show Audition (Audicija).
Guys, I think your forum has taken a bad turn and instead of it being a coallition for bettering the world, its becoming the same hate filled bunch of immaturity you were bashing to begin with.
Have a great night and hope you figure yourself out.
Night.
Croatian Girl.
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Croatians have the ability to choose good or evil. G-d gave everyone free will. But you have chosen evil if you come on here and attack JTF. There are some righteous Croatians. In fact there was one Croatian woman who became Jewish and married a Jewish man and brought him back to Judaism. That proves that everyone has free will and the ability to chose between good and evil. If you chose good, then denounce what your country has done to our peoples (Jews and Serbs) and become a Righteous Gentile.
Oh my god u r crazy. It is 2007 and you are asking me to denounce my country like its middle ages. I am sorry mr. We are in the age of computers moderniziation, globalization, capitalizm, and ekumena. Therefor, I won't let myself be sucked into your "crusade" - coz - Check yourself - you are pushing a crusade - very similar to islamic extremists....similar tone, similar choice of words...If you can't recognize a criticizm from an attack then you are either very sensitive or unaware of how socializing functions. Secondly, I must be evil? yes sir, by your standards I MUST be evil, coz I am a woman, not jewish, I wear pants, I am croatian and I was raised as a catholic but declare myself as an atheist - I must be a devil down on earth, just came to "attack" this forum, coz I am SOOOO EVILLL. I am SOOOOO EVILLLL that I try to promote tolerance and equality, I am SOOOO EVILLLLL that I try to raise awearness in my country for other religions and races...I am SOOOO EVIL that I never attacked directly on what Serbia did to the whole Yugoslavian area and I mentioned how croatians do have their own crazies - but you guys constantly seem to FAIL to REALIZE - judge yourself first before you judge others. Fix whats wrong in your own back yard before you start [censored] on others.
So..yes. I must be evil. Seriously - check yourself.
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The croats butchered tens of thousands of innocent Jewish men, women and children at Jasenovac (not including the almost million Serbs) in such brutal barbarity that even the german nazis were in disbelief at their cruelty. The croatian catholic clergy were themselves involved in the orgy of blood and death and one of these catholic priests cut the heads of 1,500 men in one day. To me there is no difference between a stinking croat and a stinking german, they are both satanic infestations of inhumanity and death and will never change their fascist, murderous and barbaric ways. The croats still buy mein kampf in record numbers and name their streets after the ustasa butchers.
Show me any evidence of the Serbs committing such cold and calculated slaughter at such a grand scale for the sole purpose of total annihilation of the Jews.
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The croats butchered tens of thousands of innocent Jewish men, women and children at Jasenovac (not including the almost million Serbs) in such brutal barbarity that even the german nazis were in disbelief at their cruelty. The croatian catholic clergy were themselves involved in the orgy of blood and death and one of these catholic priests cut the heads of 1,500 men in one day. To me there is no difference between a stinking croat and a stinking german, they are both satanic infestations of inhumanity and death and will never change their fascist, murderous and barbaric ways. The croats still buy mein kampf in record numbers and name their streets after the ustasa butchers.
Show me any evidence of the Serbs committing such cold and calculated slaughter at such a grand scale for the sole purpose of total annihilation of the Jews.
so you will support a nation that did the same thing to Croats and Bosnian Muslim - only because it wasn't done to Jews? Seriously, how can you be sure they wouldn't do the same thing if put in a different situation. And yes, we know about Jasenovac and we admit it and we try to fix certain things - but there is a lot of serbian propaganda from those times speaking against Jews, you can look it up online, I doubt you even tried branching out in that direction.
Secondly, to the person before - say whatever you want to say, I don't doubt that you respect certain groups - but I also see huge amounts of hate towards people you never met or know anything about their independant culture.All the events you speak of were comitted under Serbian ruling and prior - when you are told you will go to jail for showing your religion, and when you are not allowed to celebrate Catholic Christmas in a "union" where you are supposed to be one of the majorities, it really makes you wonder how easy it was for one party to twist the story to go their way...
I didn't want to get into this, because I only protested your blatant hate and in some cases rasism and whatnot (especially in some people's footnotes and signatures).
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Hi Fellas,
that croatian USTASA is the same thing as serbian CETNIK.
Zdravo CroatianGirl,
Inform your self about the real facts.
Cetniks and Ustasas are two totally different things.
You know well who had death camps during WW2 and who had not.
It is a great insult for us to put Nazi Ustase who slaughter million people together in the same corner with the resistance movement like the Cetniks.
The Croatians are calling bad Serbs Cetniks what is totally unreasonable.
You can not compare criminals with heroic Cetnik fighters. You can not call Serbian exceptions Cetniks.
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Hi Fellas,
that croatian USTASA is the same thing as serbian CETNIK.
Zdravo CroatianGirl,
Inform your self about the real facts.
Cetniks and Ustasas are two totally different things.
You know well who had death camps during WW2 and who had not.
It is a great insult for us to put Nazi Ustase who slaughter million people together in the same corner with the resistance movement like the Cetniks.
The Croatians are calling bad Serbs Cetniks what is totally unreasonable.
You can not compare criminals with heroic Cetnik fighters. You can not call Serbian exceptions Cetniks.
oh, a quick question...something relatively recent... Ever seen the videos from Vukovar.... or photos? those huge lines of people being sent away etc... so the same people you so strongly defend did the same thing as we are being so victimized for (which I never denied). Its funny how we can "choose" which evil is good or not....in the end..its all evil and should be treated the same.
and cetnici did the same thing - they ethnically cleansed for the purpose of their "great serbia" dream.
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@Crogirl
about vukovar : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfinIZ9z3hw
In Vukovar were also Croats living during RSK.
What are you saying???
Cetnici were active in Vukovar?
The Cethnik movement existed during WW2.
The only legal army who was operating in Vukovar was the Yugoslav regular army.
Remember in 1991 Vukovar was still recognized as Yugoslavia! Inform your self!
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recognize anybody?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyxXDnSgJXw in this one especially
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7d5G8IBK_vQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-lglzKMqe4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nstoa1rBks
and cetnici which I speak of are the ones that called themselves that during the Croatian - Serbian war mister, same way these young croatian kids call themselves ustase without knowing what it really stands for. therefor, same way you guys [censored] about thompson concert and the new generations of croats, is the same way we can talk about CETNICI (and that term serbs used a lot during the war)
and yes we were recognized as a yugoslavian army which mostly was operated by serbs, which gathered all the ammo thus us needing to find help from USA and other governments.
also another reason why croatian infrastructure wasnt built because beograd was always taking all the money from tourism etc... u inform yourself.
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and cetnici did the same thing - they ethnically cleansed for the purpose of their "great serbia" dream.
You are saying that the Cetniks did the same things like the Nazi Ustasas? Old story.
Your are making me tired.
You made great Croatia on Serbian lands. We wanted to unite our homeland after the collapse of Yugoslavia just like the Germans did in 1990 afther the collapse of USSR, what wrong with that?
You exiled 800.000 Serbs from Krajina and Croatia what about that???
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recognize anybody?
and yes we were recognized as a yugoslavian army which mostly was operated by serbs,
You know really nothing.
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and cetnici did the same thing - they ethnically cleansed for the purpose of their "great serbia" dream.
You are saying that the Cetniks did the same things like the Nazi Ustasas? Old story.
Your are making me tired.
You made great Croatian on Serbian lands. We wanted to unite our homeland after the collapse of Yugoslavia just like the Germans did in 1990 afther the collapse of USSR, what wrong with that?
You exiled 800.000 Serbs from Krajina and Croatia what about that???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eHvKItRQwk we are of same kind mister.
Serbian lands?
HA!
HA!!!
HA!!!!!!
you should change your username, you have nothing with dalmacija. remember to bring your passport when you come to visit - we will be kind hosts.
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recognize anybody?
and yes we were recognized as a yugoslavian army which mostly was operated by serbs,
You know really nothing.
you know things how you learned from your perspective
i know them how i learned from mine. deal with it.
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HA!
HA!!!
HA!!!!!!
you should change your username, you have nothing with dalmacija. remember to bring your passport when you come to visit - we will be kind hosts.
Remember!
Serbs lived also in Croatia.
Serbs lived in Dalmatia, Lika, Kordun, Slavonia and in Baranja.
You had no right to take those lands.
Croatia was also our homeland.
Remember Serbs were present in Croatia and in Krajina for centuries long.
We had the same rights in Croatia like you!
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Croatian_Girl. What do you think of Thompson, the Croatian Neo-Nazi band playing in North America right now? Or Hajduk hooligans who have been known to wear this shirt, clearly Nazi-inspired?
(http://www.torcida.org/site/images/stories/shop/majica-jugend-crna-naprid.jpg)
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HA!
HA!!!
HA!!!!!!
you should change your username, you have nothing with dalmacija. remember to bring your passport when you come to visit - we will be kind hosts.
Remember!
Serbs lived also in Croatia.
Serbs lived in Dalmatia, Lika, Kordun, Slavonia and in Baranja.
You had no right to take those lands.
Croatia was also our homeland.
Remember Serbs were present in Croatia and in Krajina for centuries long.
We had the same rights in Croatia like you!
and there are still serbs in croatia, they have their own politics party and nobody seems to really G-A-F (im sure u understand that part) about who lives in croatia or not - for all we care the more the marrier. . It seems you guys really have much more grudge on certain things and just chewing over the same topic again and again.AND, you see Croatia as this big mean strong country - dude, there is only so much of us, and we were always under someone elses ruling because we wouldnt survive at those times, but also, if you really look at the nation closely, majority of people were against what was happening, and against any form of facism, especially in Dalmatia, and they still stay very true to the "necu politiku u moju butigu" moto.
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Croatian_Girl. What do you think of Thompson, the Croatian Neo-Nazi band playing in North America right now? Or Hajduk hooligans who have been known to wear this shirt, clearly Nazi-inspired?
(http://www.torcida.org/site/images/stories/shop/majica-jugend-crna-naprid.jpg)
fyi that shirt is being pulled. because it is unfortunate that a soccer team fan club (which consists usually of bullies) support this excrement. It doesnt mean that all city supports that. And I am from Split and I support Hajduk but not this, because I don't connect myself to this part of Torcida which consists of Skinheads and jerks that just want to bust someones head open..they would beat u up regardless if u r jewish or not, and in fact they are usually lower class and lower education which explains much.
also this is not an official shirt.
and the last time i checked every country has a bunch of racist morons.
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and there are still serbs in croatia, they have their own politics party and nobody seems to really G-A-F (im sure u understand that part) about who lives in croatia or
Your are very childish. You have totally no respect.
Own politics?
90% of the exiled Serbs from Croatia and Krajina did not return to their homelands.
Serbian property is stolen or destroyed in Croatia, where must they return?
There is no Serb population in Croatia any more.
There are no Serbs representatives in Croatia.
The so called Serbian political party in Croatia SDSS is a union of self hating Serb traitors who were in Croatia during the whole war. Real Serbs were banished from Croatia and went to Krajina. Respectable Serbs who stayed in Croatia agreed with the fascist Croatian plan.
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and there are still serbs in croatia, they have their own politics party and nobody seems to really G-A-F (im sure u understand that part) about who lives in croatia or
Your are very childish. You have totally no respect.
Own politics?
90% of the exiled Serbs from Croatia and Krajina did not return to their homelands.
Serbian property is stolen or destroyed in Croatia, where must they return?
There is no Serb population in Croatia any more.
There are no Serbs representatives in Croatia.
The so called Serbian political party in Croatia SDSS is a union of self hating Serb traitors who were in Croatia during the whole war. Real Serbs were banished from Croatia and went to Krajina. Serbs who stayed in Croatia agreed with the fascist Croatian plan.
"real serbs" - wow what a way to choose it. I guess you would only be happy with a radical, a serb is someone with a serbian citizenship, sorry to burst your bubble - i find it foolish to believe that somebody can be more serbian/less serbian or any kind of nationality. deep down u still represent your crowd.
secondly, since I lived through the war I saw the side of things being taken away as well for instance - my uncle and aunt in Sarajevo lived in their apt. for 20 years, and when they were kicked out during war , a serbian person moved in - stole it basically, and refused to leave, it took them 10 years in courts with all the proper paperwork to remove the individual - and there are many many cases of that sort. so it works both ways.
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and there are still serbs in croatia, they have their own politics party and nobody seems to really G-A-F (im sure u understand that part) about who lives in croatia or
Your are very childish. You have totally no respect.
Own politics?
90% of the exiled Serbs from Croatia and Krajina did not return to their homelands.
Serbian property is stolen or destroyed in Croatia, where must they return?
There is no Serb population in Croatia any more.
There are no Serbs representatives in Croatia.
The so called Serbian political party in Croatia SDSS is a union of self hating Serb traitors who were in Croatia during the whole war. Real Serbs were banished from Croatia and went to Krajina. Respectable Serbs who stayed in Croatia agreed with the fascist Croatian plan.
oh and can u elaborate on the current Croatian fascist plan, since I mean, you clearly don't live in Croatia, so therefor you would have all the insight of what a country wants for their own people?
get over yourself.
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Are BBB of Dinamo as bad as Torcida? I've seen foootage where they were the only ones in the stadium.
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Are BBB of Dinamo as bad as Torcida? I've seen foootage where they were the only ones in the stadium.
i don't know how much they tie themselves to politics, but usually the tightest parts of these soccer fan groups mostly work almost as gangs, because they relate to a destructive nationalistic actions. but, its only certain parts of them...like i said, there is always gonna be a bad apple no matter where you look.
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"real serbs" - wow what a way to choose it. I
You have everywhere traitors.
Serbs who did not agree with Tudjman’s government were targeted.
The Serbs who supported the new Croatian government stayed in Croatia.
Like M. Pupavac and his cooperators. They were recognized as respectable Serbs by the new Croatian government because the supported the new Croatian system.
In the same time ethnic cleansing took place. Serbs lost their jobs and properties especially in Croatians towns like, Zagreb, Split, Zadar, Sikas, Osijek and other.
I did not aggress my own home in Croatia or somebody else’s.
The concentrations of those people who violated the Serbs was to large at the time so I went to other places which were not under Croatian authority. It was a smart move.
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"real serbs" - wow what a way to choose it. I
You have everywhere traitors.
Serbs who did not agree with Tudjman’s government were targeted.
The Serbs who supported the new Croatian government stayed in Croatia.
Like M. Pupavac and his cooperators. They were recognized as respectable Serbs by the new Croatian government because the supported the new Croatian system.
In the same time ethnic cleansing took place. Serbs lost their jobs and properties especially in Croatians towns like, Zagreb, Split, Zadar, Sikas, Osijek and other.
I did not aggress my own home in Croatia or somebody else’s.
The concentrations of those people who violated the Serbs was to large at the time so I went to other places which were not under Croatian authority. It was a smart move.
well just so you know, a lot of serbs took away alot of croatian property as well and settled in other people's property.
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I actually am pretty good friends with a CRoatian girl who is very nice, just so you know.
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I actually am pretty good friends with a CRoatian girl who is very nice, just so you know.
well glad to hear that, but I wonder how she would feel if she knew you support this forum.
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I actually am pretty good friends with a CRoatian girl who is very nice, just so you know.
I have also Croatian friends.
and they would totally disagree with this Croatian gril.
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I actually am pretty good friends with a CRoatian girl who is very nice, just so you know.
I have also Croatian friends.
and they would totally disagree with this Croatian gril.
ha!
maybe they are not "real croats".
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Not real Croatians?? Hmm???
Maybe not for people like you
Josip Reihl-Kir was one of the view honest Croatian police officers who wanted peace with the Serbs in Croatia. He was shot by members of the new Croatian government in the town of Osijek in 1991.
Those Croats were also victimized just like the Serbs by the new Nazi Croatian government of Franjo Tudjman.
Many peaceful Croatians were prosecuted and murdered by the new dirty Croatian government who killed even her own people.
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Not real Croatians?? Hmm???
Maybe not for people like you
Josip Reihl-Kir was one of the view honest Croatian police officers who wanted peace with the Serbs in Croatia. He was shot by members of the new Croatian government in the town of Osijek in 1991.
Those Croats were also victimized just like the Serbs by the new Nazi Croatian government of Franjo Tudjman.
Many peaceful Croatians were prosecuted and murdered by the new dirty Croatian government who killed even her own people.
guy, relaxed, i was only quoting you in the context of what you said for - selfhating serbs.
and by croatian friends - do you have any current ones, that are not dead, those are the ones i am interested in knowing their opinion. because if they are so against croatian life, why dont they move, or change their nationality.
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actually u know what... i dont care. its 4 am and i need to go to bed.
guys, just ease up on the hate. it will drive you to a heart attack
night
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croatian_girl:
that croatian USTASA is the same thing as serbian CETNIK...
Then how would you explain to our great JTF-ers why USA president Truman awarded lider of Cetnics general Draza Mihailovic.
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croatian_girl:
that croatian USTASA is the same thing as serbian CETNIK...
Then how would you explain to our great JTF-ers why USA president Truman awarded lider of Cetnics general Draza Mihailovic.
That power of propaganda. Now Chetnik is an insult, while in WWII they were a movement who fought against Nazis. Thanks to the communist propaganda they have been connected to Nazis, and nothing can be further from the truth.
Croatian lobbyist like to believe, spread lies which can incriminate, cripple and shame Serbia. When there are none, they will make up.
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croatian_girl:
that croatian USTASA is the same thing as serbian CETNIK...
Then how would you explain to our great JTF-ers why USA president Truman awarded lider of Cetnics general Draza Mihailovic.
That power of propaganda. Now Chetnik is an insult, while in WWII they were a movement who fought against Nazis. Thanks to the communist propaganda they have been connected to Nazis, and nothing can be further from the truth.
Croatian lobbyist like to believe, spread lies which can incriminate, cripple and shame Serbia. When there are none, they will make up.
I agree with you dear sister.
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croatian_girl:
that croatian USTASA is the same thing as serbian CETNIK...
Then how would you explain to our great JTF-ers why USA president Truman awarded lider of Cetnics general Draza Mihailovic.
That power of propaganda. Now Chetnik is an insult, while in WWII they were a movement who fought against Nazis. Thanks to the communist propaganda they have been connected to Nazis, and nothing can be further from the truth.
Croatian lobbyist like to believe, spread lies which can incriminate, cripple and shame Serbia. When there are none, they will make up.
This is a real woman O0
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Croatian_girl may I ask you why operation storm "Oluja" isn't recognized as ethnic cleansing? over 200 000 serbs were pushed out of croatia and thousands of dead. If thats not ethnic cleansing, why is vukovar that?
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http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=tRdgJ4V0QXc
i see that some radical serbs have mission turn american jews vs. croatia with lies...we are NOT nazist...Croatia is democrat nation,open...most of nacional money we receive of tourism,the half of europe come to us...now we have elections for parlament,and the leading party are socialdemocracy party and thear partner is liberal party...in serbia domination party is radical party of serbia (nazi-party,chetniks) support by 40 percent of population( in Croatia we dont have ONE radical party who can get into the parlament) ,i speak about real nazi party but thanks to God ,3 democrat party united and overbear nazist...i dont like Thompson (i sing petition against him)...but he is not nazist...he is STUPID...on his concert was a lot of people but only 50 with "ustasha simbols" (jutarnji list,journal) without lies....
ask balkan muslims,macedonian,montenegros,albanian,croats who are the real nazist???
some radical serbs perform that they are croats...please do not do that (dalmacija....)
i live in CROATIA and i dont now ONE nazist..... Shalom
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JTF also believes that women have the role of civilizing men. Without women, men would be savage animals.
Without women, men are royally screwed.
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http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=tRdgJ4V0QXc
i see that some radical serbs have mission turn american jews vs. croatia with lies...we are NOT nazist...Croatia is democrat nation,open...most of nacional money we receive of tourism,the half of europe come to us...now we have elections for parlament,and the leading party are socialdemocracy party and thear partner is liberal party...in serbia domination party is radical party of serbia (nazi-party,chetniks) support by 40 percent of population( in Croatia we dont have ONE radical party who can get into the parlament) ,i speak about real nazi party but thanks to G-d ,3 democrat party united and overbear nazist...i dont like Thompson (i sing petition against him)...but he is not nazist...he is STUPID...on his concert was a lot of people but only 50 with "ustasha simbols" (jutarnji list,journal) without lies....
ask balkan muslims,macedonian,montenegros,albanian,croats who are the real nazist???
some radical serbs perform that they are croats...please do not do that (dalmacija....)
i live in CROATIA and i dont now ONE nazist..... Shalom
cuti jado cuti. Ne priznajete olujo a priznajete vukovar kao etnicko ciscenje Ne priznajete da ste ubili oko 1 mil srba u drugom svetskom ratu, i da ste prekrstili stotinama hiljada srba u katolitisizam, uhh jebem li ti... Bolje se opet prekrsti da budes ortodox a ne da mrzis tvoje roditelje Srbe.
uhhh dont talk crap. Vukovar = ethnic cleansing according to croats, and operation storm (oluja) = liberation operation according to you. And what about almost 1 million serbs that got massacred by ustase regim. And what about those one hundreds of thousands serbs that were converted into catholic christianity? Neither did you care about them and neither did the "brainwashed world". Finally there is some movement that is not brainwashed. (JTF)
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...on serbian he wrote that croats are serb but catholic,like all nations on balkan are serbs..that is radical politics...my family fight against "Ustasha" and "Chetniks" so please do not insult...1000000 serbs kill in jasenovac... :-\ i dont now number,and we never now but you overstate that number,if one person die is too much...that people was murder by "Ustashe".I am croat and i am not Ustasha...Oluja was ethnic cleansing...like all Chetniks operation on balkan...i see that you are not-open man and you live in political lies...your nation make big crimes on balkan...and you are proud ... :( ...i shame of Ustasha even i dont have connection with them...
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...on serbian he wrote that croats are serb but catholic,like all nations on balkan are serbs..that is radical politics...my family fight against "Ustasha" and "Chetniks" so please do not insult...1000000 serbs kill in jasenovac... :-\ i dont now number,and we never now but you overstate that number,if one person die is too much...that people was murder by "Ustashe".I am croat and i am not Ustasha...Oluja was ethnic cleansing...like all Chetniks operation on balkan...i see that you are not-open man and you live in political lies...your nation make big crimes on balkan...and you are proud ... :( ...i shame of Ustasha even i dont have connection with them...
Ur governemnt said that oluja was a liberation operation and not ethnic cleansing. And shall I tell you something? Yes we did crimes, aswell as everyone in the balkans did. And i'm not proud of it. But you see the problem is, croatian government exxagerate our situation and play innocent aswell as bosnia. We technically get all the [censored]. Altough, croatians are not innocent. And the nazi regim under WW2 did kill ALMOST 1 million serbs in concentration camps. Others were converted. Listen we all lost this war because we were fighting eachother and we are all brothers. It's just sad that serbs got converted into catholism over 1000 years ago and that bosniaks got converted into islam 600 years ago. And now montenegrians declare theirselves as "montenegrians". It was all beter before we got converted...
And its good that you dont support nazis. But i the other way around, support chetniks. But I dont support their actions. After all, chetniks were there to protect the fatherland and they want monarchy. The nazis are very different. They think jews and serbs are from hell so they need to die.
You cant say that chetniks are the same as nazis.
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I REPEAT AGAIN DEAR JTF-ers DO NOT LET BE FOOLED BY croatian members (unfortunately) OF THIS GREAT FORUM AND THEIR SMOOTHTALKING.
ANYTHING THAT YOU ALL SHOULD KNOW ABOUT CROATIA AND WHOM THEIR SUPPORTED BACK IN HISTORY DURING WWI AND WWII (AND TODAY AS WELL) YOU MAY CONTACT AND ASK SIMON WIESENTHAL CENTER IF THEY (croats) ARE TELLING THAT SERBS ARE TRYING TO TURN GREAT AND GLORIOUS JEWISH NATION AGAINST THEM - the croats,AND THAT SERBS ARE SPREADING PROPAGANDA,WHICH IS A DIRTY LIE!
I REPEAT MY QUESTION AGAIN TO croat members IF CHETNICS WERE THE BAD GUYS WHY PRESIDENT TRUMAN AWARDED THEM AND GENERAL MIHAILOVIC?,AND WHY CHETNICS (AND SERBS IN GENERAL) SUPPORTED AND HELPED USA ARMY DURING THE WWII AS WELL AS SERBS HELPED USA DURING WWI,IF SERBS ARE HOW croats WOULD SAY VERY RADICAL AND THAT THEY ARE SUPPORTING RADICAL PARTY IN LARGE PERCENT AND THAT RADICAL PARTY ARE nazi's THEN I CALL SOMEONE FROM JTF,CHAIM OR SOMEONE ELSE IF MR.CHAIM CAN'T COME,TO SOME TO SERBIA AND WE SHALL GO TO RADICAL PARTY OFFICE AND HAVE A LITTLE TALK WITH THEM AND MAKE SOME VIDEOS AND WE SHALL EXPOSE THIS croat LIE ONCE AGAIN.
I ALREADY OPEN NEW INTERESTING TOPIC ABOUT BOOK CALLED UNHOLY TRINITY WHICH REVEALS SOME VERY IMPORTANT INFORMATIONS ABOUT THE THINGS WE ARE DISCUSSING HERE -
http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php?topic=10763.0 (http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php?topic=10763.0)
AND I'M GOING TO PRESENT SOME VERY INTERESTING INFORMATIONS ABOUT CERTAIN croat politician WHO SUPPORTS nazi's AND ustasha's his name is ANTE DJAPICH .
I AM A LITTLE BUSY RIGHT NOW SO IF ANYONE OF SERB MEMBERS HAVE SOMETHING ABOUT THIS POLITICIAN PLEASE LET HIM PLACE THAT INFORMATION HERE.
THANK YOU.
GO JTF!
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Would JTF allow baalestinians posts here, in JTF ?
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Why does JTF allow NAZICROAT REVISIONNISTS/NEGATIONNISTS, then ?
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Eliav chats with "croatian-girl".......
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You cant say that chetniks are the same as nazis.
when how do you explain only-serb state(etnic-clean),great serbia,hate against croats,muslims,albanian,macedonian,turks...(everything non-serb),connection with radical ortodox church...with slobodan milošević??? :o
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JTF "SAVE SERBIA" SECTION SINKS IN NAZICROAT OCEAN OF LIES.
BAN THESE BEASTS.
STOP THE POLLUTION.
IT IS HIGH-TIME.
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AND I'M GOING TO PRESENT SOME VERY INTERESTING INFORMATIONS ABOUT CERTAIN croat politician WHO SUPPORTS nazi's AND ustasha's his name is ANTE DJAPICH .
I AM A LITTLE BUSY RIGHT NOW SO IF ANYONE OF SERB MEMBERS HAVE SOMETHING ABOUT THIS POLITICIAN PLEASE LET HIM PLACE THAT INFORMATION HERE.
THANK YOU.
GO JTF!
Djapić is the presedent of right-wink political party in Croatia(no radical like dose in serbia)...he like major of one Croatian city went in Israel and make connections with Israel city (friendly city),go on holocaust victim memory and kneel...his movie about him vas taped by Jewis company..it is only strongest right party in croatia(dont want connections with Ustashe)..this party have 4-5 percent of votes...in Serbia more radical party have 40 percent...i dont support them..i am member of social-democrat party (currently strongest party in croatia)
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BAN THESE BEASTS.
STOP THE POLLUTION.
IT IS HIGH-TIME.
you will not say lies??you want silence me...you cant silence the truth..shame on you nazist..
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THIS IS BECOMING OUTRAGEOUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BAN THIS BEAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I actually am pretty good friends with a CRoatian girl who is very nice, just so you know.
well glad to hear that, but I wonder how she would feel if she knew you support this forum.
if spit at our great forum >:( >:( moderators please ban this nazi >:(
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JTF "SAVE SERBIA" SECTION SINKS IN NAZICROAT OCEAN OF LIES.
BAN THESE BEASTS.
STOP THE POLLUTION.
IT IS HIGH-TIME.
are you suggesting ethnic cleansing of this forum?
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YES NAZICROATIANZOMBIEFEMALE,
GO BACK TO YOUR NAZICROATIA HELL.
BE DAMNED.
BE BANNED.
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YES NAZICROATIANZOMBIEFEMALE,
GO BACK TO YOUR NAZICROATIA HELL.
BE DAMNED.
BE BANNED.
HA!!!!! WHICH BRINGS US TO A CONTRADICTION - THE WHOLE POINT OF ME OPENING THIS TOPIC!!!! You are so shallow my friend...so shallow.... u need to cleanse your hate and not worry about other people's ethnic background...I am sure u have a mirror somewhere in the house. make sure to check urself.
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oh...so close to swastika... nice...nice.... we had a chant when were were kids what it really meant.. Srbi Sami Sebe S***... hahha...but its not right... so yea.
negative symbolism at its best
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oh...so close to swastika... nice...nice.... we had a chant when were were kids what it really meant.. Srbi Sami Sebe S***... hahha...but its not right... so yea.
negative symbolism at its best
Swastika is from India if you did not know, Nazis took it from India.
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oh...so close to swastika... nice...nice.... we had a chant when were were kids what it really meant.. Srbi Sami Sebe S***... hahha...but its not right... so yea.
negative symbolism at its best
Swastika is from India if you did not know, Nazis took it from India.
i dont care who they took it from, i care about what it stands for and same with this symbol, what it stood for in the war. and it was killing of many people
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KILLING MANY NAZICROATS IS AN HOLY TASK.
BAN THIS NAZICROATFEMALE.
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oh...so close to swastika... nice...nice.... we had a chant when were were kids what it really meant.. Srbi Sami Sebe S***... hahha...but its not right... so yea.
negative symbolism at its best
Swastika is from India if you did not know, Nazis took it from India.
i dont care who they took it from, i care about what it stands for and same with this symbol, what it stood for in the war. and it was killing of many people
You seem not to know what
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stands for. It stands for: Samo Sloga Srbina Spašava
It's our symbol from a very long time ago ok? It's like your croatian shield or what you have. SO don't talk [censored] about it.
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KILLING MANY NAZICROATS IS AN HOLY TASK.
BAN THIS NAZICROATFEMALE.
holy task? aka a crusade? aka same [censored] that is happening now with islamic radicals - dude. you ONCE AGAIN contradicted your whole standpoint, you blatenly admitted that you would ethnically clean and then hide it behind a religion - you clearly don't have a sane head on your shoulders. And I noticed you guys are against muslims - well you are acting the same way as their radicals.
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oh...so close to swastika... nice...nice.... we had a chant when were were kids what it really meant.. Srbi Sami Sebe S***... hahha...but its not right... so yea.
negative symbolism at its best
Swastika is from India if you did not know, Nazis took it from India.
i dont care who they took it from, i care about what it stands for and same with this symbol, what it stood for in the war. and it was killing of many people
You seem not to know what
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stands for. It stands for: Samo Sloga Srbina Spašava
It's our symbol from a very long time ago ok? It's like your croatian shield or what you have. SO don't talk excrement about it.
yes, but it was also the same sign painted on many houses that were robbed by Cetnici and where croats were killed, so in reality it stands for the same thing as nazi swastika. i have nothing against serbs, serbian people, jewish people. I have a problem with killers, rapists and hatespillers who declare themselves to be Cetnici and hide behind this flag
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KILLING MANY NAZICROATS IS AN HOLY TASK.
BAN THIS NAZICROATFEMALE.
holy task? aka a crusade? aka same excrement that is happening now with islamic radicals - dude. you ONCE AGAIN contradicted your whole standpoint, you blatenly admitted that you would ethnically clean and then hide it behind a religion - you clearly don't have a sane head on your shoulders. And I noticed you guys are against muslims - well you are acting the same way as their radicals.
Muslims? I have nothing against muslims. Infact I got muslim friends.
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KILLING MANY NAZICROATS IS AN HOLY TASK.
BAN THIS NAZICROATFEMALE.
holy task? aka a crusade? aka same excrement that is happening now with islamic radicals - dude. you ONCE AGAIN contradicted your whole standpoint, you blatenly admitted that you would ethnically clean and then hide it behind a religion - you clearly don't have a sane head on your shoulders. And I noticed you guys are against muslims - well you are acting the same way as their radicals.
Muslims? I have nothing against muslims. Infact I got muslim friends.
So do I.
We are against the redical Muslims, and every sane person should be against tham.
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oh...so close to swastika... nice...nice.... we had a chant when were were kids what it really meant.. Srbi Sami Sebe S***... hahha...but its not right... so yea.
negative symbolism at its best
Swastika is from India if you did not know, Nazis took it from India.
i dont care who they took it from, i care about what it stands for and same with this symbol, what it stood for in the war. and it was killing of many people
You seem not to know what
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stands for. It stands for: Samo Sloga Srbina Spašava
It's our symbol from a very long time ago ok? It's like your croatian shield or what you have. SO don't talk excrement about it.
yes, but it was also the same sign painted on many houses that were robbed by Cetnici and where croats were killed, so in reality it stands for the same thing as nazi swastika. i have nothing against serbs, serbian people, jewish people. I have a problem with killers, rapists and hatespillers who declare themselves to be Cetnici and hide behind this flag
Im not a chetnik and still I love that flag. If you show that flag it doesn't mean you're a chetnik. Chetniks use other flags. Still I support chetniks. And when I say chetniks, I mean the real ones. With huge beard.
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BAN NAZICROATS, FEMALE ONES, OR NOT.
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BAN NAZICROATS, FEMALE ONES, OR NOT.
Umm I think that you are on a posthunt husar, aren't you? And what's with that caps lock?
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I did not join JTF
to see NAZICROATS INVADE IT.
That's all.
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I did not join JTF
to see NAZICROATS INVADE IT.
That's all.
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I already stated I am not a nazi and me being a female shouldnt be an issue to you. secondly i declare myself as a democrat...or in this case DemoCroat :)
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Foremost I wish to introduce myself. I will not be careless and mention my RL name, but I am Croat as well as a number of people on this planet, however small it may be in comparison to other “great” nations. Whole my life I lived in Croatia, with occasional trips outside of it (vacation, etc.). I truly love my country, and 2 tell u the truth, I am not big on globalization and dissipation of national identity. Now, an average Joe would ask: “What the hell it has to do with this subject?”
It is actually so very simple. To entire world, and all the ppl in it, I happily pronounce:
MY PARENTS DIDN’T RAISE A HATER!
Loving my country isn’t something that means I am born as a Nazi or some similar creature. I do not practice hate toward any nation or any group of ppl. As a true Christian, I can only feel sorrow, and pray for poor souls that do hate.
Were it not 4 my brother, I would never find about this threads, and were it not 4 my conscience, I would never replied 2 it. I am appalled by ignorance and uncivilized ideas in most of the statements, and unfortunately I must admit they for most part come from pen of Serbs. The fact is that Austrian-Hungarian monarchy LET them take refuge in Kordun, when they were RUNNING AWAY from Turks. That was some 300 years ago. And ofc it was conditioned by acceptance of Austrian crown and Croatian rule in the region. After 300 years, hospitality is repaid with slaughter. That land that fed u and gave life for numerous generations is a part of Croatia, so U CAN’T have it, EVER. U had a chance to be a part of our nation, while u were unable to deal with Turks of that time in ur own. Since u denounced that offer, u may not keep what was bestowed upon arrival of ur ancestors in MY country. In the year 1991 u had to choose between this country and 1 u left 300 years ago. Every individual made their choice, and now they will bare consequences of such a decision. Soon, very soon, in a “global village” this conversation will be pointless, just as a radical Serb consorting with Jewish ppl (I am a Christian after all, and for me it symbolizes a wolf making friends with the shepherds). I live in hope that Serbian extremists, Jewish extremists and even my brethren Croats that are extremists will diminish and fade away in that brave new world, so that globalization may have at the very least 1 good consequence. I do realize that by no means those extremists that exist today, whichever faction they belong, do represent whole, or even majority of the population. I also realize that such extremists are mostly IGNORANT and UNEDUCATED which makes them easy to manipulate. Should I ever be a politician, I will. It is just 2 easy to miss it.
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Foremost I wish to introduce myself. I will not be careless and mention my RL name, but I am Croat as well as a number of people on this planet, however small it may be in comparison to other “great” nations. Whole my life I lived in Croatia, with occasional trips outside of it (vacation, etc.). I truly love my country, and 2 tell u the truth, I am not big on globalization and dissipation of national identity. Now, an average Joe would ask: “What the hell it has to do with this subject?”
It is actually so very simple. To entire world, and all the ppl in it, I happily pronounce:
MY PARENTS DIDN’T RAISE A HATER!
Loving my country isn’t something that means I am born as a Nazi or some similar creature. I do not practice hate toward any nation or any group of ppl. As a true Christian, I can only feel sorrow, and pray for poor souls that do hate.
Were it not 4 my brother, I would never find about this threads, and were it not 4 my conscience, I would never replied 2 it. I am appalled by ignorance and uncivilized ideas in most of the statements, and unfortunately I must admit they for most part come from pen of Serbs. The fact is that Austrian-Hungarian monarchy LET them take refuge in Kordun, when they were RUNNING AWAY from Turks. That was some 300 years ago. And ofc it was conditioned by acceptance of Austrian crown and Croatian rule in the region. After 300 years, hospitality is repaid with slaughter. That land that fed u and gave life for numerous generations is a part of Croatia, so U CAN’T have it, EVER. U had a chance to be a part of our nation, while u were unable to deal with Turks of that time in ur own. Since u denounced that offer, u may not keep what was bestowed upon arrival of ur ancestors in MY country. In the year 1991 u had to choose between this country and 1 u left 300 years ago. Every individual made their choice, and now they will bare consequences of such a decision. Soon, very soon, in a “global village” this conversation will be pointless, just as a radical Serb consorting with Jewish ppl (I am a Christian after all, and for me it symbolizes a wolf making friends with the shepherds). I live in hope that Serbian extremists, Jewish extremists and even my brethren Croats that are extremists will diminish and fade away in that brave new world, so that globalization may have at the very least 1 good consequence. I do realize that by no means those extremists that exist today, whichever faction they belong, do represent whole, or even majority of the population. I also realize that such extremists are mostly IGNORANT and UNEDUCATED which makes them easy to manipulate. Should I ever be a politician, I will. It is just 2 easy to miss it.
kisses :) lol
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BAN THESE NAZICROAT LOBBYISTS AND TAKKIYAH USERS !!!!!!!!!
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BAN THESE NAZICROAT LOBBYISTS AND TAKKIYAH USERS !!!!!!!!!
ban sexist pig husar!
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CLOSE ALL NAZICROAT OPENED "topics".
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I GUESS IF THEY WERE BAALESTINIANS MOCKING YOU,
YOU WOULD HAVE THEM BANNED......
THEY ARE TAKKIYAH NAZICROATS.
CAN'T YOU SEE THAT ?....
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I GUESS IF THEY WERE BAALESTINIANS MOCKING YOU,
YOU WOULD HAVE THEM BANNED......
THEY ARE TAKKIYAH NAZICROATS.
CAN'T YOU SEE THAT ?....
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for the 10000 times already..i am not a nazi... i am a democroat :)
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GET OUT OF THIS SERBIAN SECTION !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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GET OUT OF THIS SERBIAN SECTION !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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why? for all you know one of my parents could be serbian.
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also I think your caps and frustrated way of writing isnt really facilitating good discussion..just in my opinion...i forgot what the rules of this forum were again...hmmm no yelling?
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If I may me so bold to correct, it is not Nazi Croats, but Croatian Nazis, since 1st depicts nation and 2nd relates to a very, very small number (which is, thx G-d getting smaller by the day) of intolerant, backward, mostly UNEDUCATED and IGNORANT ppl. I hope that the same will happen to Chetnics as representatives of Serbian Nazis. It would be a blessing and a liberation 4 the Serbian nation.
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Most of our members are not Jewish
Yes....I belong to the Saint John Coltrane African Orthodox Church
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I GUESS IF THEY WERE BAALESTINIANS MOCKING YOU,
YOU WOULD HAVE THEM BANNED......
THEY ARE TAKKIYAH NAZICROATS.
CAN'T YOU SEE THAT ?....
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for the 10000 times already..i am not a nazi... i am a democroat :)
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i want to explain them that but...no theory...they realy belive that we live in nazi-state...can this be a normal forum??? 8)
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BAN NAZICROATS FROM JTF !!!!!!!!!!!
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BAN NAZICROATS FROM JTF !!!!!!!!!!!
Chill bro...no need to cap. Debate ! You know we got your back on JTF
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BAN NAZICROATS FROM JTF !!!!!!!!!!!
all 548 posts are BAN NAZI-PIG???man you have problem... 8;)
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BAN NAZICROATS FROM JTF !!!!!!!!!!!
all 548 posts are BAN NAZI-PIG???man you have problem... 8;)
you know how the strongest homophobes for example turn out to be gay... he is so strong on saying ban nazicroats, when in fact, he is probably the only nazi croat here :)
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THERE WILL BE 1000 000 000 000 POSTS OF MINE
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THERE WILL BE 1000 000 000 000 POSTS OF MINE
FOR BANNING NAZICROATS.
Dont get me wrong dude...I am not on their side but what exactly do you plan to accomplish with that ? besides getting blisters on your thumbs.
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Never mind whose nationaliti he is...some thing is not normal with him...i suspect that this replays are automatic!!! ;D ;D
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Never mind whose nationaliti he is...some thing is not normal with him...i suspect that this replays are automatic!!! ;D ;D
ban nazi pig, we have more things to worry about than stinky croats at our forum >:(
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Never mind whose nationaliti he is...some thing is not normal with him...i suspect that this replays are automatic!!! ;D ;D
ban nazi pig, we have more things to worry about than stinky croats at our forum >:(
like what? ethnic cleansing ?
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Never mind whose nationaliti he is...some thing is not normal with him...i suspect that this replays are automatic!!! ;D ;D
ban nazi pig, we have more things to worry about than stinky croats at our forum >:(
like what? ethnic cleansing ?
DO WE SERBS NEED TO TAKE THIS ON JTF FORUM? MODERATORS PLEASE BAN THIS PIG
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BAN NAZICROATS.
OR CREATE A "SAVE N.D.H." SECTION,
WITHOUT A SINGLE SERB IN THIS JTF FORUM.
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BAN NAZICROATS.
OR CREATE A "SAVE N.D.H." SECTION,
WITHOUT A SINGLE SERB IN THIS JTF FORUM.
IF THIS NAZI CROATS ARE NOT BANNED I AM OUT LIKE YOU, LET SOME CREATE SAVE CROATIA SECTION
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I WILL OPEN IT MYSELF.
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PLEASE, JTF,
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There is no similarities between Chetniks and Ustashas except in Tito's (croat himself) communist Yugoslavia history and Croatian minds.
If anyone wants to know more about Chetniks, here you are.
http://draza-mihailovich.blogspot.com/
http://ravnagora.blogster.com/
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And yes, we know about Jasenovac and we admit it and we try to fix certain things - but there is a lot of
And how did you fix it?
By finishing that nazi job by expelling every single Serb from Croatia in 1995?
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Cojpe,
We DID our homework:
NAZICROATIAN-BABOONICFEMALE
is banned.
And I add:
I'm not sorry at all
for that.
:)