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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on November 01, 2007, 02:05:58 AM
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Fellow JTFers,
Obviously attacks of Nazi hatred upon innocent Jews are a ghastly crime that must be avenged to the fullest. However, how do you all feel when serpentine, evil, Israel-hating Jewish-in-name-only beasts become targets of anti-Semitism, either at random or perhaps because their sick behavior has brought it on directly?
Real examples:
--Illegal-immigrant-loving Los Angeles city councilkapo gets swastika pictures glued to his front office's door
--Nellie the Weasel is roughed-up by skinheads in an elevator
I honestly want you to respond to this hypothetical (at this point) scenario and tell me how you feel. What would your emotional reaction be to seeing Elliot Spitzer beaten-up by a gang of vicious black Nazis in a NYC subway?
Chaimfan
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I personally would like to see all liberals get the crap beat out of them by blacks or Mexicans. Then watch how quickly they become conservative
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I do not think they would change even then. They are deluded to the point of mental illness.
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I do not think they would change even then. They are deluded to the point of mental illness.
CF is right.
A liberal could have his home invaded, his teeth kicked out, his wife murdered and his children raped in front of him by negros or wetbacks and he'd STILL blame white, western, Judaic/christian society and consider the attackers the real 'victims' who were just venting their 'justifiable' rage against their 'oppression'.
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I don't think that any kind of antisemitism can be good; becouse it's atacking of some person solely becouse he's Jewish. we shud combat any kind of antisemitism becouse Jew haters won't attack kikes only.
The best cure for self hating Jews/ADL/ACLU types is to put them in one jail cell for nifgt with negro or muslim animals you'll see how they will love them the morning after. ::) ;)
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I don't think that any kind of antisemitism can be good; becouse it's atacking of some person solely becouse he's Jewish. we shud combat any kind of antisemitism becouse Jew haters won't attack kikes only.
The best cure for self hating Jews/ADL/ACLU types is to put them in one jail cell for nifgt with negro or muslim animals you'll see how they will love them the morning after. ::) ;)
This guy would enjoy it.
(http://www.garlicandgrass.org/issue9/images/rabbi_lerner2.jpg)
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The best cure for self hating Jews/ADL/ACLU types is to put them in one jail cell for nifgt with negro or muslim animals you'll see how they will love them the morning after. ::) ;)
It wouldn't change a thing.
When they were bashed and raped they'd blame the 'racsist' justice and prison system, white oppression and conservatives for making those poor members of the minority community vent their frustration.
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Personal I think they have no rights. If you can't stand who you are then you have no pride and point in living.
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hehehe, you guys know me and what answer I would pick...
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I don't think that any kind of antisemitism can be good; becouse it's atacking of some person solely becouse he's Jewish. we shud combat any kind of antisemitism becouse Jew haters won't attack kikes only.
The best cure for self hating Jews/ADL/ACLU types is to put them in one jail cell for nifgt with negro or muslim animals you'll see how they will love them the morning after. ::) ;)
I agree Ultra :)
I think a lot of leftists have no expierience with muzzie behavior. The should taste it. Perhaps they understand then better the nature of the muzzie. And specially leftist jews will learn an important lesson: It's unimportant for the muzzie, what they say and what they do. The muzzie will hate them, because he hates Jew generally. :(
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Anti-Semitism, and anyother form of racial/religious/cultural hate must be always condemned. No matter if the Jew hates himself. No one has the right to be Anti-Semite. Anyone who insults a Jew for just being a Jew, is insulting ALL Jews.
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I say YES!
REason is beacause these basterds are causing a lot of trouble for TRUE Jews! Not only that, they (Liberal Jews) actiually is the reason to some extent for anti-semitism!
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I say YES!
REason is beacause these basterds are causing a lot of trouble for TRUE Jews! Not only that, they (Liberal Jews) actiually is the reason to some extent for anti-semitism!
Liberal Jews also have a strange double standard.
When Billy Bob and the good 'ol boys (the anglo-saxons) attacks them, it's 'rascist anti-semitism'. When Leroy and the homies from the 'hood do it, it's "symptomatic of a deep socio-economic problem caused by rascist, white society".
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Yes >:( >:( >:( >:(
If you need any Self-Hating Jews taken down, ill do it!
They make me soooooooooooo damn angry! >:( >:(
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NO!Although I wouldn't mind them taking a little minority medicine,just not sure it would cure them. ;)
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No,
Also Rav Kahane would say and did say no, he didnt tolerate this.
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My answer is no, and I'm not sure I like the tone of this thread.
I'm not saying this out of any love for these weasels. They should be opposed and stopped when necessary. But if anti-semites know they can get away with attacking a few Jews, then what's to stop them from continuing with good Jews? And let me remind you that these people will hate Jews no matter what.
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I agree .If you asked me should other liberal Christians be singled out for persecution,I would think you were nuts! :)
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Absolutely not. The only people served by allowing Jews of any political persuasion to become victimized are the antisemites themselves.
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Bingo! :)
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I am in the minority here and I think it serves these bastards right. Self-hating animals are causing hundreds of Jews to be murdered in the Holy Land and elsewhere. They make Jews look bad all over the world and don't just enable the worst enemies of Jews, but physically often are outright responsible for oppressing and killing Jews. Look at Chaim ben Pesach's judge in the ballet-gassing case. Look at Jonathan Pollard (he was ratted-out by his JEWISH fellow spies, not the Gentiles). Look at Yitzcock Rabin, who murdered dozens of right-wing Jewish opponents in the 1940s. Look at Adam Shapiro and Michael Lerner and Tali Fahima and countless others. These walking stools deserve as horrid a death as humanly possible.
If anti-Semites succeeded in attacking a few hundred known kapos, I guarantee you they would be come a lot less visible and vocal in society.
And yes--I think self-hating Christians should be attacked also.
Chaimfan
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No,
Also Rav Kahane would say and did say no, he didnt tolerate this.
Are you sure?
Somehow I really, really doubt he would shed many tears if David Duke kneecapped the likes of Irv Rubin or Bonnie Pechter.
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CF, you do have a point,but any anti semitic hurt or any hatred is wrong. :)
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Of course it is, and G-d will judge them for it severely.
However, there is a difference between acknowledging Jew-hatred (or any racism, ultimately) for the evil it is and taking joy when EVIL people of Jewish or Christian background are attacked. Chaim himself would say that it is impossible to do evil to an evil person.
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I am in the minority here and I think it serves these bastards right. Self-hating animals are causing hundreds of Jews to be murdered in the Holy Land and elsewhere. They make Jews look bad all over the world and don't just enable the worst enemies of Jews, but physically often are outright responsible for oppressing and killing Jews. Look at Chaim ben Pesach's judge in the ballet-gassing case. Look at Jonathan Pollard (he was ratted-out by his JEWISH fellow spies, not the Gentiles). Look at Yitzcock Rabin, who murdered dozens of right-wing Jewish opponents in the 1940s. Look at Adam Shapiro and Michael Lerner and Tali Fahima and countless others. These walking stools deserve as horrid a death as humanly possible.
If anti-Semites succeeded in attacking a few hundred known kapos, I guarantee you they would be come a lot less visible and vocal in society.
And yes--I think self-hating Christians should be attacked also.
Chaimfan
Just because you can see what others can't doesn't make you wrong.
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BRO give me time to think about that. :)
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No,
Also Rav Kahane would say and did say no, he didnt tolerate this.
Are you sure?
Somehow I really, really doubt he would shed many tears if David Duke kneecapped the likes of Irv Rubin or Bonnie Pechter.
I remeber very vagually (read it a long time ago), but I think their was a situation described in Rav Kahane's book on the history of the JDL- where he was protecting some Jew, even though the guy didnt want protection, etc. etc. etc.
I see this post and thinking like this is an excuse and a gateway to hurting Jews. First asking this and then going after Jews, because they vote Democrate, or making all sorts of excuses to cover over the deep down hatred that some (many) have against Jews- why? becuase their Jews.
The fight of Jews should be between them. Inside the Jewish nation their should be a fight and singling out of individuals who stand in the way of real Judaism and the flourishing of the nation, but Jew hatred should never be tolerated. PERIOUD.
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A self hating Jews will always be punished, not to mention that they cause alot of anti-semitism.
Exactly cosmo!
They cause a LOT of anti-semitism....and they should reap what they sow ! >:( >:(
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We can't differentiate between what Jews are worth protecting and which Jews deserve to suffer. We love all Jews regardless of their intelligence of observance level. The point is that Jews aren't rugs, we won't be stepped on and if we let some Jews be stepped on, then they will stop on all of us, we have to show Ahavat Yisrael, love of all Jews not just good Jews. Jews that are not observant must be encouraged to do tshuvah and return to the ways of the Torah, not slaughtered like lambs.
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I remeber very vagually (read it a long time ago), but I think their was a situation described in Rav Kahane's book on the history of the JDL- where he was protecting some Jew, even though the guy didnt want protection, etc. etc. etc.
I see this post and thinking like this is an excuse and a gateway to hurting Jews. First asking this and then going after Jews, because they vote Democrate, or making all sorts of excuses to cover over the deep down hatred that some (many) have against Jews- why? becuase their Jews.
The fight of Jews should be between them. Inside the Jewish nation their should be a fight and singling out of individuals who stand in the way of real Judaism and the flourishing of the nation, but Jew hatred should never be tolerated. PERIOUD.
Tzvi, I don't want people to read too far into this. I obviously do not agree that anti-Semitism should be encouraged or tolerated under any circumstances. There obviously is no way that it could be kept under control or that Nazis could be talked into only harming evil Jews (or Christians), but IF they do happen to attack one, I enjoy seeing G-d's wrath upon snakes, regardless of how it was delivered.
This being said, I do think that self-hating kapos, by virtue of their high visibility, tend to be bigger targets for Nazis than righteous Jews.
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Jews that are not observant must be encouraged to do tshuvah and return to the ways of the Torah, not slaughtered like lambs.
There is a difference between Jews who are merely not observant (like average Jews all over the world) and outright self-hating Jewish rodefs like Lerner, Adam Shapiro, Amos Oz, or Gayhud Holemert. The former G-d wants to repent and turn to him. The latter G-d calls Amelek.
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At one time, JTF (on the main page) gave a commentary on Nellie the Weasel (the filthiest kapo [and quite possibly literally a kapo during the Holocaust] you can imagine) and commented that it was a huge "shame that this bacteria had managed to survive" (the Holocaust). I don't know if this opinion has been changed, but if not, it exactly mirrors my position.