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Title: Do you think that it is time for the JDL to be resurrected?
Post by: ChabadKahanist on February 09, 2024, 06:06:55 AM
I have mixed feelings about this on one hand I think that there needs to be a strong answer to Jew haters on the other hand I feel it is only a band aid approach & things are too far gone in America & America is played out for the Jew in America & in the galut in general & the only answer is to come home to Israel!!!!
Title: Re: Do you think that it is time for the JDL to be resurrected?
Post by: angryChineseKahanist on February 09, 2024, 04:13:08 PM
sure. why not.  I nominate you.
Title: Re: Do you think that it is time for the JDL to be resurrected?
Post by: Zelhar on February 11, 2024, 06:05:55 AM
In Israel. Religious nationalist and in particular the settlers are subject to defamation and persecution, this is during an ongoing war where the religious Jews contribute the most and suffer the most casualties.
Title: Re: Do you think that it is time for the JDL to be resurrected?
Post by: Nachus on February 13, 2024, 12:30:36 AM
 :usa+israel:                                                                                                                       :fist:

   Regarding this one, I for the most part
   concur with the great ChabadKahanist.
   Zelhar, if you meant that JDL should re-
   emerge in eretz Israel when you said
  “In Israel,” that would also be great as
   it would definitely support the heroic
   Hilltop Youth although this ‘might’ be a
   “slippery slope” and would more than likely
   be “underground.” Remember how the evil
   Israeli Bolshevik establishment banned
   HaRav Meir Kahane’s ZT”L HY”D great Kach
   movement. But in the first and final analysis,
   the best solution for the Jewish people in the
   galut is to be aware of the urgency to make
   Aliyah and to live in the Holy Land of Israel.
   
   
 
 
   

 
Title: Re: Do you think that it is time for the JDL to be resurrected?
Post by: Zelhar on February 13, 2024, 02:23:24 PM
I meant to say that Jews in Israel at this day are subject to MORE persecution and obviously far more threats than Jews in the exile.
Title: Re: Do you think that it is time for the JDL to be resurrected?
Post by: Hrvatski Noahid on February 13, 2024, 03:54:05 PM
Chaim pointed out numerous times that the era of illegal activities was over and that JTF is a law-abiding organization.

In the modern world technology is much more powerful than bombs.   
Title: Re: Do you think that it is time for the JDL to be resurrected?
Post by: ChabadKahanist on February 14, 2024, 08:14:49 AM
Chaim pointed out numerous times that the era of illegal activities was over and that JTF is a law-abiding organization.

In the modern world technology is much more powerful than bombs.
I think that Chaim was only talking for himself & JTF & if somebody wanted to resurrect the JDL & make a JDL as it was in its hey day Chaim would give it his blessing & verbal & moral support but not be connected to it in anyway that it could incriminate him.
Title: Re: Do you think that it is time for the JDL to be resurrected?
Post by: angryChineseKahanist on February 14, 2024, 03:02:16 PM
Why do you need permission?  Do it.
Title: Re: Do you think that it is time for the JDL to be resurrected?
Post by: ChabadKahanist on February 15, 2024, 01:45:07 AM
Why do you need permission?  Do it.
I live in Israel  so somebody living in the US needs to do it!!! Besides my health is not all that great to travel back & forth & my wife just had a stroke & is recovering If my & my wife's health were better & I was still living in the US I would do it in a heartbeat!! Having said that it is still a band aid solution IMHO & best solution is  mass aliyah!!!
Title: Re: Do you think that it is time for the JDL to be resurrected?
Post by: Hrvatski Noahid on February 15, 2024, 02:07:02 PM
I live in Israel  so somebody living in the US needs to do it!!! Besides my health is not all that great to travel back & forth & my wife just had a stroke & is recovering If my & my wife's health were better & I was still living in the US I would do it in a heartbeat!! Having said that it is still a band aid solution IMHO & best solution is  mass aliyah!!!

May you have a complete recovery.
Title: Re: Do you think that it is time for the JDL to be resurrected?
Post by: angryChineseKahanist on February 16, 2024, 09:56:25 AM
May you have a complete recovery.

Yes, may he recover first.
Title: Re: Do you think that it is time for the JDL to be resurrected?
Post by: Nachus on February 16, 2024, 01:02:02 PM
           :usa+israel:                                                                                            :fist:             

       A complete recovery, refuah shlema to
       perfect health Be ezrat HaShem
                                       Shabbat shalom                                                                                                                                                                                           
 

 
Title: Re: Do you think that it is time for the JDL to be resurrected?
Post by: ChabadKahanist on February 18, 2024, 12:03:41 AM
Thanks to all for the wishes of a speedy recovery
Title: Re: Do you think that it is time for the JDL to be resurrected?
Post by: Dr. Dan on February 18, 2024, 06:16:42 AM
In as much as it would be nice to see these Nazi protesters get beaten to a pulp or embarrassed and humiliated, the truth is making Aliyah and becoming more religious and relying on God with things we are able and not able to do is the answer.

The JDL was instrumental in humiliating anti semites in the United States. Now these Nazis are brazen and law enforcement is ineffective which could mean a counter force can get away with a lot too.

I’m personally not suggesting anyone to behave against the law…just mentioning what I have observed since 2020
Title: Re: Do you think that it is time for the JDL to be resurrected?
Post by: ChabadKahanist on February 19, 2024, 02:22:45 AM
In as much as it would be nice to see these Nazi protesters get beaten to a pulp or embarrassed and humiliated, the truth is making Aliyah and becoming more religious and relying on God with things we are able and not able to do is the answer.

The JDL was instrumental in humiliating anti semites in the United States. Now these Nazis are brazen and law enforcement is ineffective which could mean a counter force can get away with a lot too.

I’m personally not suggesting anyone to behave against the law…just mentioning what I have observed since 2020
I agree with you 100%!!!
Title: Re: Do you think that it is time for the JDL to be resurrected?
Post by: Nachus on February 21, 2024, 12:38:07 PM
 :usa+israel:                                                                                                                        :fist:

  Agreed and I will add that all anti-Semites
  deserve that and that most of them will never
  realize that their ways are evil and those ways
  are cursing them beyond ‘redemption.’