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Title: AIPAC: No one hurts Israel more than these self-hating traitors (2 new videos)
Post by: Chaim Ben Pesach on March 24, 2016, 02:51:30 AM
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Please publicize these important videos everywhere possible.

In English:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=v19IsGDxnpc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v19IsGDxnpc

In Hebrew:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=4Ytv52Ak0ck

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ytv52Ak0ck
Title: Re: AIPAC: No one hurts Israel more than these self-hating traitors (2 new videos)
Post by: Debbie Shafer on March 24, 2016, 09:51:30 AM
The whole organization is phony....I have never donated to AIPAC and won't ever donate to them.....How many people buy their garbage to defend Israel?
Title: Re: AIPAC: No one hurts Israel more than these self-hating traitors (2 new videos)
Post by: Chiram on March 24, 2016, 10:39:48 AM
Islamic terrorism is less dangerous than Jewish weakness.
Title: Re: AIPAC: No one hurts Israel more than these self-hating traitors (2 new videos)
Post by: eb22 on March 24, 2016, 10:49:17 AM
The whole organization is phony....I have never donated to AIPAC and won't ever donate to them.....How many people buy their garbage to defend Israel?

Tragically,  far too many.    Trying to reason with many of these people is impossible.    To them,  you can't criticize AIPAC even from the Right.
Title: Re: AIPAC: No one hurts Israel more than these self-hating traitors (2 new videos)
Post by: Zelhar on March 24, 2016, 03:29:24 PM
It is perhaps the same way Trump Supporters are deaf dumb and blind to his faults and are infuriated at anyone points out his fakeness.

Tragically,  far too many.    Trying to reason with many of these people is impossible.    To them,  you can't criticize AIPAC even from the Right.
Title: Re: AIPAC: No one hurts Israel more than these self-hating traitors (2 new videos)
Post by: eb22 on March 24, 2016, 03:49:02 PM
It is perhaps the same way Trump Supporters are deaf dumb and blind to his faults and are infuriated at anyone points out his fakeness.

Good analogy.   Trying to reason with Trump supporters has been a similar experience of trying to reason with AIPAC supporters.   The expression banging your head against the wall is applicable with trying to get through to both Trump supporters and AIPAC supporters.
Title: Re: AIPAC: No one hurts Israel more than these self-hating traitors (2 new videos)
Post by: Debbie Shafer on March 28, 2016, 08:17:29 AM
I will never fall for what Aipac dishes out....wake up people and look at the real policies toward Israel and the unification with the Left.
Title: Re: AIPAC: No one hurts Israel more than these self-hating traitors (2 new videos)
Post by: Debbie Shafer on April 28, 2016, 07:49:54 AM
They say in their mailings how much they do for Israel....Bunk.
Title: Re: AIPAC: No one hurts Israel more than these self-hating traitors (2 new videos)
Post by: Debbie Shafer on July 03, 2016, 04:07:51 PM
I still get mailings wanting money...I will never contribute to anyone who does not truly support Israel and her well being!!!!
Title: Re: AIPAC: No one hurts Israel more than these self-hating traitors (2 new videos)
Post by: Dan193 on July 14, 2016, 08:55:52 AM
http://nypost.com/2016/07/11/how-aipac-is-betraying-israel/
How AIPAC is betraying Israel
By Seth Mandel July 11, 2016

It turns out the fearsome American Israel Public Affairs Committee is a paper tiger — and one that will throw Israel under the bus for its pals in the Democratic Party.

AIPAC has long enjoyed a reputation as an all-powerful lobby whose wrath you don’t want to provoke if you’re running for public office. Academics Stephen Walt and John Mearsheimer infamously launched a second career with their essay on it, in which they wrote, “Jewish Americans have set up an impressive array of organizations to influence American foreign policy, of which AIPAC is the most powerful and best known.” The group’s “goal is to prevent critical comments from getting a fair hearing in the political arena. Controlling the debate is essential to guaranteeing US support.”

Left-wing journalists and political functionaries parrot the Walt/Mearsheimer thesis in hushed tones.

Well, someone tell Walt he can take off the tinfoil hat and come out of his bunker now. Recent events prove that not only is AIPAC’s tough reputation unearned, but it’s also not the stalwart defender of Israel in the halls of Congress it claims to be.

The Washington Free Beacon revealed last week that AIPAC tried to make the 2012 Republican platform less supportive of Israel for fear of making the Democrats look bad.

And of course there was the Iran nuclear deal — specifically, AIPAC’s behavior in its wake.

President Obama refused to give Congress a chance to kill his Iran capitulation by subjecting it to a vote (as would be required for a treaty). Congress reacted by pushing a “resolution of disapproval” of the deal. If it passed, Obama would veto it. But it would put Congress on the record against the pact.

If it ever came to a vote.

Pro-Israel groups were told by allies in the Senate — like Cory Booker (D-NJ) — that they’d at least get a vote. That meant the target for groups like AIPAC was a simple majority. They just needed 51 votes.

Booker even publicly repeated the pledge he and other senators gave AIPAC in private. “I can’t imagine how my Democratic colleagues and I would not allow this to come to a vote,” he told his constituents at a town hall.

Well, he figured out how to imagine it. And if you can imagine it, you can do it. And he did: Booker helped block the vote.

This was embarrassing to AIPAC. If the group was at all concerned about its image, it wouldn’t let Booker and the others off the hook. It would have to send a message.

And the message AIPAC chose to send was: Go ahead and double-cross us. Humiliate us in public, if you want. We’re the nation’s premier pro-Israel doormat.

“Following AIPAC’s defeat last month in the fight over the Iran deal, the organization has internally debated how and whether its members will restore deterrence in Congress,” reported Bloomberg’s Eli Lake. The conclusion? “Most Democrats who voted for the deal will be welcomed back into the pro-Israel fold.”

But don’t shed a tear for AIPAC: The Iran-deal fight became a major fundraising campaign — and it doesn’t matter that AIPAC lost. As NPR’s Peter Overby reported in September, AIPAC has lost major battles like this before, and “after each of those fights, AIPAC’s membership and fundraising spiked. In special-interest politics, there’s nothing like losing to enhance the bottom line.”

That seemed to be fine with AIPAC, which is clearly less focused on the “Israel” part of its mission than on the “lobby” part.

But perhaps we shouldn’t be so surprised. As the Washington Free Beacon notes, the lobby tried to weaken — yes, weaken — pro-Israel language in the 2012 Republican National Convention platform, by cutting a reference to Jerusalem as Israel’s “undivided” capital and deleting a passage calling for the relocation of the US Embassy to Jerusalem. The evidence against AIPAC is damning: The Beacon has video and multiple on-the-record sources.

Why would AIPAC do such a thing? The answer is illuminating: to bring the GOP platform more in line with the Democratic one, as one source told the Beacon, “in order to manufacture the appearance of bipartisanship.”

This is, to put it mildly, insane.

And let’s remember something else: When pro-Israel language on Jerusalem was added back into the Democrats’ platform, the Democratic delegates in the convention hall loudly booed and shouted down the proposal. This is whom “America’s pro-Israel lobby” wants Republicans to sound like?

AIPAC values bipartisanship above all else. That means the group would rather both parties be less pro-Israel — endangering and isolating the Jewish state — than give the Democratic Party a public-relations problem.

AIPAC is reckless, myopic, delusional and unreliable. And as we now know, it’s also toothless.
Title: Re: AIPAC: No one hurts Israel more than these self-hating traitors (2 new videos)
Post by: Debbie Shafer on July 27, 2016, 08:52:30 AM
I don't support or send money to AIPAC because of their betrayal of Israel.
Title: Re: AIPAC: No one hurts Israel more than these self-hating traitors (2 new videos)
Post by: Debbie Shafer on February 26, 2018, 07:47:06 AM
Deception...people should never donate to organizations like AIPAC who will sell Israel out.