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Bless my enemies, O Lord. Even I bless them and do not curse them.
Enemies have driven me into Your embrace more than friends have. Friends have bound me to earth, enemies have loosed me from earth and have demolished all my aspirations in the world.
Enemies have made me a stranger in worldly realms and an extraneous inhabitant of the world. Just as a hunted animal finds safer shelter than an unhunted animal, so have I, persecuted by enemies, found the safest sanctuary, having ensconced myself beneath Your tabernacle, where neither friends nor enemies can slay my soul. Bless my enemies, O Lord. Even I bless them and do not curse them.
They, rather than I, have confessed my sins before the world.
They have flagellated me, whenever I have hesitated to flagellate myself.
They have tormented me, whenever I have tried to flee torments.
They have scolded me, whenever I have flattered myself. They have spat upon me, whenever I have filled myself with arrogance.
Bless my enemies, O Lord. Even I bless them and do not curse them.
Whenever I have made myself wise, they have called me foolish.
Whenever I have made myself mighty, they have mocked me as though I were a dwarf.
Whenever I have wanted to lead people, they have shoved me into the background.
Whenever I have rushed to enrich myself, they have prevented me with an iron hand.
Whenever I thought that I would sleep peacefully, they have wakened me from sleep.
Whenever I have tried to build a home for a long and tranquil life, they have demolished it and driven me out.
Truly, enemies have cut me loose from the world and have stretched out my hands to the hem of Your garment.
Bless my enemies, O Lord. Even I bless them and do not curse them.
Bless them and multiply them; multiply them and make them even more bitterly against me --
so that my fleeing to You may have no return; so that all hope in men may be scattered like cobwebs; so that absolute serenity may begin to reign in my soul;
so that my heart may become the grave of my two evils twins: arrogance and anger;
so that I might amass all my treasure in heaven;
ah, so that I may for once be freed from self-deception, which has entangled me in the dreadful web of illusory life.
Enemies have taught me to know -- what hardly anyone knows - that a person has no enemies in the world except himself
One hates his enemies only when he fails to realize that they are not enemies, but cruel friends.
It is truly difficult for me to say who has done me more good and who has done me more evil in the world: friends or enemies.
Therefore bless, O Lord, both my friends and my enemies.
A slave curses enemies, for he does not understand. But a son blesses them, for he understands.
For a son knows that his enemies cannot touch his life. Therefore he freely steps among them and prays to God for them.
Bless my enemies, O Lord. Even I bless them and do not curse them.
Saint Nikolai Velimirovich , Prayers by the Lake
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JelenaSrb,
I am proud of you O0
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I am proud to be Orthodox and Serbian! :) Хвала Богу што имамо Светог Владику Николаја! Прави српски Златоуст! :)
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I am proud to be Orthodox and Serbian! :) Хвала Богу што имамо Светог Владику Николаја! Прави српски Златоуст! :)
Please continue to inform us with this kind of articles!
Thank you..
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I hope it will not be a problem to our brothers ( by Adam) Jews! :) I have a feeling that they do not like to read about Christian Theology ( in this case ..Orthodox) Actually, they do not like when Lord Christos is mentioned at all! :-\ It is understandable! However, I think when we talk about Kosovo it is inevitable to be discussed from "religious" point of view not only political! After all, we ( Serbs) know very well why Kosovo is our Holy Land!
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I hope it will not be a problem to our brothers ( by Adam) Jews! :) I
True all people are the descants of Adam.
It does not matter if they are Greek, Jewish or Muslims. We are all descants of the fallen man Adam.
I have a feeling that they do not like to read about Christian Theology ( in this case ..Orthodox) Actually, they do not like when Lord Christos is mentioned at all! :-\ It is understandable! However, I
They have no problems believe me :)..
Feel free to post something about our religion Jelena.
But we can not expect from the Jews to completely understand the principles of the Orthodox Christian Church.
IIt is understandable! However, I think when we talk about Kosovo it is inevitable to be discussed from "religious" point of view not only political! After all, we ( Serbs) know very well why Kosovo is our Holy Land!
Yess, we need also to take a look from a religious point of view not only political.
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Yes, we all are brothers and sisters by Adam and Eve ! But there is a New Adam ..and a New Eve!:) I am sure you understand what I mean! :) I don't expect them to understand completely but It would be great if they would just learn that Orthodoxy is the only true Christianity! And not to mix with many heresies!
I will post more religious texts in near future! :)
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Yes, we all are brothers and sisters by Adam and Eve ! But there is a New Adam ..and a New Eve!:) I am sure you understand what I mean! :)
Jesus was the new Adam.
Who is new Eve Jelena?
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Watch this!!
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3kY7tF1k3Z8
The Birth of the Theotokos
The spotless Virgin is born,
The Holy mother of the Holy Christ
rejoice you old, and you young,
the Lord has build Himself a home.
The beautiful Virgin is born,
among all women she's a bright star,
old Eve does rejoice,
she is blessed through the Holy Virgin.
This feast is bright and great-
the modest child is born,
the one who brings together earth and
heaven all by God's providence.
It's the same wonderful Virgin,
the old prophet dreamt about,
it's the sceptre that has bloomed,
it's celebration of the wise world.
Sweet smelling lilly she is
the whole universe bears Her scent
She is the golden bridge and the ladder,
the dove white and pure.
God's Church rejoices
and bows deep to Her,
It sings together and out loud
All-Holy Virgin have mercy on us!!!
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Yess, but Maria has not the same status just like JESUS CHRIST.
I know that you know that :)
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Yes! But I didn't say it was the same status! :)
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Yes! But I didn't say it was the same status! :)
Well, we never used to discribe Marija as the new Eva..
I was more thinking about that.. :)
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it is very common in Orthodox Christianity to say for a dear Theotokos to be a New Eve! But we never say " Marija" only! Protestants would say something like that! Especially not after Her glorious Ascension! Right after God there is a woman! :) She is greater than all Saints!
It is Truly Meet to call Thee Blessed, the Ever Blessed and all Immaculate and Mother of Our God. More Honorable than the Cherubim and beyond compare more glorious than the Seraphim. Thee who without corruption gavest birth to God the Word the Very Theotokos, Thee do we Magnify.
Most Holy Mother of God, save us.
Do you know the song " Agni Partene" ? :)
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Yes, we all are brothers and sisters by Adam and Eve ! But there is a New Adam ..and a New Eve!:) I am sure you understand what I mean! :) I don't expect them to understand completely but It would be great if they would just learn that Orthodoxy is the only true Christianity! And not to mix with many heresies!
I will post more religious texts in near future! :)
Jews respect any religion that doesn't force itself upon them, and I think you should do the same. It's great that you believe that Orthodox Christianity is the true religion, I don't think Jews and other Christians have a problem with that, as long as you don't tell them what they should and shouldn't believe.
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what do you guys think about new religions: protestants, baptists, Jehovah's witnesses etc?
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what do you guys think about new religions: protestants, baptists, G-d's witnesses etc?
I respect them as Humans. I believe also that you have honorable and faithful people among them too.
According to the Orthodox point of view the other churches like the Roman church and the Protestantic churches who separated their selves from the Apostolic church of Jesus Christ are considered as the fallen churches.
They represent an other religion.
With other words they do not share the same faith as we the Orthodox Christians do.
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it is very common in Orthodox Christianity to say for a dear Theotokos to be a New Eve! But we never say " Marija" only! Protestants would say something like that! Especially not after Her glorious Ascension! Right after G-d there is a woman! :) She is greater than all Saints!
It is Truly Meet to call Thee Blessed, the Ever Blessed and all Immaculate and Mother of Our G-d. More Honorable than the Cherubim and beyond compare more glorious than the Seraphim. Thee who without corruption gavest birth to G-d the Word the Very Theotokos, Thee do we Magnify.
Most Holy Mother of G-d, save us.
Do you know the song " Agni Partene" ? :)
Thank you for the information Jelena.
I support the idea that we must also discuss subjects from religious point of views.
Our whole Serbian identity is based on the principles of the Orthodox Church.
There is no Serbdom without Orthodoxism.
Without the Serbian Orthodox Church we wouldn't today exist as Serbs.
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it is very common in Orthodox Christianity to say for a dear Theotokos to be a New Eve! But we never say " Marija" only! Protestants would say something like that! Especially not after Her glorious Ascension! Right after G-d there is a woman! :) She is greater than all Saints!
It is Truly Meet to call Thee Blessed, the Ever Blessed and all Immaculate and Mother of Our G-d. More Honorable than the Cherubim and beyond compare more glorious than the Seraphim. Thee who without corruption gavest birth to G-d the Word the Very Theotokos, Thee do we Magnify.
Most Holy Mother of G-d, save us.
Do you know the song " Agni Partene" ? :)
Thank you for the information Jelena.
I support the idea that we must also discuss subjects from religious point of views.
Our whole Serbian identity is based on the principles of the Orthodox Church.
There is no Serbdom without Orthodoxism.
Without the Serbian Orthodox Church we wouldn't today exist as Serbs.
True! :)
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it is very common in Orthodox Christianity to say for a dear Theotokos to be a New Eve! But we never say " Marija" only! Protestants would say something like that! Especially not after Her glorious Ascension! Right after G-d there is a woman! :) She is greater than all Saints!
It is Truly Meet to call Thee Blessed, the Ever Blessed and all Immaculate and Mother of Our G-d. More Honorable than the Cherubim and beyond compare more glorious than the Seraphim. Thee who without corruption gavest birth to G-d the Word the Very Theotokos, Thee do we Magnify.
Most Holy Mother of G-d, save us.
Do you know the song " Agni Partene" ? :)
Thank you for the information Jelena.
I support the idea that we must also discuss subjects from religious point of views.
Our whole Serbian identity is based on the principles of the Orthodox Church.
There is no Serbdom without Orthodoxism.
Without the Serbian Orthodox Church we wouldn't today exist as Serbs.
Righteously said O0
Orthodox Christianity is essential for righteous Balkan countries O0 O0 O0
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ORTHODOXY RULES!!!
THREE FINGERS HIGH AND PROUD! :) :) :)
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Long live Serbian people and my husband's Jewish people!
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Long live Serbian people and my husband's Jewish people!
G-d bless them O0
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How am I suppose to know who is a Jew and who is a non-jew on this forum?
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ask?
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Yeah typical Christian BS, love your enemy and turn the cheek.
You people are insane, you don't understand what you're dealing with here.
If you wanna survive this war you need to hate your enemy as much as possible HATE IS STRONGER THAN LOVE, AND I YOU WILL NOT GO TOO FAR WITH YOUR GULLIBLE IDEOLOGY.
They are your enemies, they have invaded you and you need to take your country back even if that means war, you need to kill your invading enemy and take your territory back. If they wanna leave without resistance that's fine, but if they do resist there's no other option but to kill them, if of course you wanna survive. This is a matter of Darwinian survival, mother nature doesn't tolerate weakness you're weak you're going down. Muslims are cancer they infest countries and your country needs to be cured from this cancer.
HATE YOUR ENEMY.
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Yeah typical Christian BS, love your enemy and turn the cheek.
You people are insane, you don't understand what you're dealing with here.
If you wanna survive this war you need to hate your enemy as much as possible HATE IS STRONGER THAN LOVE, AND I YOU WILL NOT GO TOO FAR WITH YOUR GULLIBLE IDEOLOGY.
They are your enemies, they have invaded you and you need to take your country back even if that means war, you need to kill your invading enemy and take your territory back. If they wanna leave without resistance that's fine, but if they do resist there's no other option but to kill them, if of course you wanna survive. This is a matter of Darwinian survival, mother nature doesn't tolerate weakness you're weak you're going down. Muslims are cancer they infest countries and your country needs to be cured from this cancer.
HATE YOUR ENEMY.
I agree, that we should better not love muslim-enemies, but hate them totally, kill the men, the women, and the children, and let them rot between pork carcasses.
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Yeah typical Christian BS, love your enemy and turn the cheek.
You people are insane, you don't understand what you're dealing with here.
If you wanna survive this war you need to hate your enemy as much as possible HATE IS STRONGER THAN LOVE, AND I YOU WILL NOT GO TOO FAR WITH YOUR GULLIBLE IDEOLOGY.
They are your enemies, they have invaded you and you need to take your country back even if that means war, you need to kill your invading enemy and take your territory back. If they wanna leave without resistance that's fine, but if they do resist there's no other option but to kill them, if of course you wanna survive. This is a matter of Darwinian survival, mother nature doesn't tolerate weakness you're weak you're going down. Muslims are cancer they infest countries and your country needs to be cured from this cancer.
HATE YOUR ENEMY.
I agree, that we should better not love muslim-enemies, but hate them totally, kill the men, the women, and the children, and let them rot between pork carcasses.
And I think we should never behave like a cancer ourselves, we shouldn't kill anything just because it's weak.
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we won't, natural selection will ( war :P)
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. This is a matter of Darwinian survival, mother nature doesn't tolerate weakness you're weak you're going down.
I agree that we should be strong and brave.
But aggression, hate are in contradictions with courage and strength.
Hate and aggression are consequences of complexes and fear.
Further you can believe that hate is the answer for all and that your forefathers were monkey based on the theory of Darwin.
In contradiction to you my forefathers were not apes but Serbs.
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Do I have to love my enemies-muslems? :::D :::D :::D
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Boyana, I don't think it is funny what Holy Spirit said through a Saint! If you haven't noticed Saint Nikolai Velimirovich wrote it and if you haven't heard about him ..He is one of the greatest Serbian Saints! If you want to make fun of Lord Christ and His Saints...then join your brothers Jews!
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И још нешто...само је Светац могао тако нешто да каже! Али нисмо ли сви позвани да будемо Свети? Зар се не каже на Литургији " Светиње Светима"?! Када се причешћујемо примамо самога Христа и обожујемо се! О томе се ради! Наравно, да није лако волети непријатеље своје али то само говори о нама колико смо на ниском духовном нивоу! А то је већ жалосно! :'( Ми Срби морамо да упознамо боље нашу веру! Мислим да је потребно итекако мисионарити у Србији, пре свега, јер нам је више штете нанео комунизам него 500 година под Турцима!
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јер нам је више штете нанео комунизам него 500 година под Турцима!
Tacno,
Neki nasi su postali bas neozbiljni..
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Do I have to love my enemies-muslems? :::D :::D :::D
You live somewhere in America do not you?
And what are the Muslims doing to you in America?
What is your reason that you want to hate them all.
I do not condemn you I am just curious for your reason...?
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I do not have to love Albanians,!
Why?
If you do not know by now,well then is to late for you!
And Jelena,calm down!
I am not here to be lectured by any of you to love people who are monsters!
Saint I am not,I am Serb!
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И још нешто...само је Светац могао тако нешто да каже! Али нисмо ли сви позвани да будемо Свети? Зар се не каже на Литургији " Светиње Светима"?! Када се причешћујемо примамо самога Христа и обожујемо се! О томе се ради! Наравно, да није лако волети непријатеље своје али то само говори о нама колико смо на ниском духовном нивоу! А то је већ жалосно! :'( Ми Срби морамо да упознамо боље нашу веру! Мислим да је потребно итекако мисионарити у Србији, пре свега, јер нам је више штете нанео комунизам него 500 година под Турцима!
Can you please translate this on English? Thank you
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Jasmina, you don't speak Serbian? What I wrote in Serbian is for Serbs!
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Dalmacija did I use word HATE?
Why do you ask me then?
And I cay say on JTF anything I wish regarding muslems.
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Jasmina, you don't speak Serbian? What I wrote in Serbian is for Serbs!
Jelena, I want also rather to speak in our Serbian language!
But I am afreight that we are the minority sister.
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And I cay say on JTF anything I wish regarding muslems.
You have the oppertunity to say anything what you want against them overhere!
But it is up to you if you want to make use of this freedom.
If something is allowed it does not mean that it is automatically oke!!
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Jasmina, you don't speak Serbian?
Our Jasmina speaks next to Serbian also two/ three other languages!
Isn't she amazing ?
:)
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Jasmina, you don't speak Serbian? What I wrote in Serbian is for Serbs!
Hey! Of course I understand Serbian, but since the majority of people doesn't understand our language, is our responsability to respect them and write in language that everybody can understand! :)
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Dalmacija,I do not like muslems.
And it is my feedom not to like them.
And I do not think our Jewish friends will like me less for that.
And I love our Kosovo!
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I didn't know that majority of people on this section are not Serbs! Sorry! If you understand Serbian, you can translate! :)
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I do not have to love Albanians,!
Why?
If you do not know by now,well then is to late for you!
And Jelena,calm down!
I am not here to be lectured by any of you to love people who are monsters!
Saint I am not,I am Serb!
As I have said...only Saint is capable to say "O Lord, bless my enemies"! We are all far far from being Saints and that is more than obvious! :) However, as Christians, we should try not to hate anyone and to show our strong will to follow Christ because He gave us divine teachings through Holy Apostles,Saints and the only way to make progress in spiritual life is to do what Mother Church teaches us! One Elder said..If Church is not your mother, God is not your Father! :)
Boyana, you can hate Muslims, you can hate whoever you want..you can hate me,if you want...We are free human beings, we can do whatever we want...Све нам је дозвољено,али нам није све на корист!
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Dear Jelena,I never said I hate muslems.
And please,please leave me alone!Are you maybe half muslem?
Why is so important for you to force me to love them!One more remark of you,and I will live this forum!
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If you don't like someone, you dislike them, right? You said you don't like Muslims!
If you don't want to discuss with me, don't reply to my topics! I am not forcing you to love anyone, I am just talking about love, Christian love....from Orthodox point of view! Is that offensive?
My mother is from Bosnia, she had many friends who were Muslims! My godmother also has friends who are Muslims ( and also her colleagues at the law faculty) they are really nice guys!
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I didn't know that majority of people on this section are not Serbs! Sorry! If you understand Serbian, you can translate! :)
I'm sorry, but if you think I have all the time in the world to translate your posts, you are wrong! ;D ;D ;D
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Ok, as I see JelenaSRB is creating some arguments regarding her believes...I hope that Boyana didn't leave the forum because of JelenaSRB.. I will ask JelenaSrb to calm down and DON't teach anyone what to love and what to NOT hate! Everyone has a free will!!!
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Dear Jelena,I never said I hate muslems.
And please,please leave me alone!Are you maybe half muslem?
Why is so important for you to force me to love them!One more remark of you,and I will live this forum!
eyyy..
do not you dare leaving !!!!
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Thank you Yacov! :)
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IMHO. She was pushing Orthodox Christianity.(hard)
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IMHO. She was pushing Orthodox Christianity.(hard)
I agree! And she was loving our enemies (Moslems), but she had some very aggressive points towards our friends, Jews!
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I disagree with her post regarding the Jews.
Jelena is an amazing intellectual. She knows a lot about Orthodoxism.
But I understand her when se says love your enemies.
This must be interpreted correctly. That means that we should not hate all our enemies. We can hate those who have blood on their hands and who give orders to kill the Serbs. Of course you will hate those there is no need to explain that.
But you will not make any progress by hating even the innocent.
We can make fun as much as we can but this is a rule of the new testament.
We must not make fun of those rules! Because we do not understand this correctly this testifies the fact how far away we really are from our religion.
I think that is a shame
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i agree with Dalmacia ^
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I understand that, BUT we don't hate the innocent enemies! they are NOT our enemies! I think this is very clear among our members!
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I understand that, BUT we don't hate the innocent enemies! they are NOT our enemies! I think this is very clear among our members!
I really hope that that is clear.
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I hope that you live a good life Jelena, and do not forget,
I, a Catholic from West-Europe, do not hate you or any Orthodox Christians.
I hope the day will come that all Europeans and Jews are united.
The Nations need more women like you.
Indeed, you don't need to hate your muslims over there,
with love you can't defeat them too.
You can make more children than them, so that they can't outbreed you.
Good luck, and thanks for your contribution on the forum.
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I understand that, BUT we don't hate the innocent enemies! they are NOT our enemies! I think this is very clear among our members!
I really hope that that is clear.
How can you trust a muslim, that is very peaceful, makes children here, and adapts himself very good at our social norms etc,...?
You never know, that he will join the muslims that want to take over Europe, once they are a majority.
Therefore, no muslim is innocent.
They are enemies, even if they choose to be our friends.
The only thing they can do, to become friends, is to convert away from Islam to Atheism, or Christianity, or better, to return to their Islam countries.
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Again this issue is worthless regarding how guilty and how innocent one Muslim can be! If one Muslim wants me to convert to Islam, he IS my enemy! If He wants my country, he is my Enemy! If he wants me dead, He is my enemy! Therefore, I can't hate one innocent child for example! even he/she will grow and will want me dead, as long as he is a child I can't hate him!
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Again this issue is worthless regarding how guilty and how innocent one Muslim can be! If one Muslim wants me to convert to Islam, he IS my enemy! If He wants my country, he is my Enemy! If he wants me dead, He is my enemy! Therefore, I can't hate one innocent child for example! even he/she will grow and will want me dead, as long as he is a child I can't hate him!
That I disagree with. Children of muslim-immigrants are our future enemies.
Only exceptions will choose our side.
In fact less children choose our side then the elderly. Look at the Paris' riots...
Therefore alien kids are not friends, but potential enemies, and must be dealt with accordingly.
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well to tell you the truth,catholics aren't that better then muslims(now i don't mean every catholic,i mean the high-ups,with the pope on the throne)tho they work with stealth and manipulation,result is,we have croats killing atleest 1 mil serbs in the lsat 100 yeas
Ither u turn to Catholicism,or you imigrate,or you are fisicaly eraticated(sry 4 my bad spelling once again)
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the point isn't racial,its cultural!!!!!If its parent doesn't teach it to h8 lets say america or serbia or israel,it wont!most probably
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Again this issue is worthless regarding how guilty and how innocent one Muslim can be! If one Muslim wants me to convert to Islam, he IS my enemy! If He wants my country, he is my Enemy! If he wants me dead, He is my enemy! Therefore, I can't hate one innocent child for example! even he/she will grow and will want me dead, as long as he is a child I can't hate him!
That I disagree with. Children of muslim-immigrants are our future enemies.
Only exceptions will choose our side.
In fact less children choose our side then the elderly. Look at the Paris' riots...
Therefore alien kids are not friends, but potential enemies, and must be dealt with accordingly.
How can you hate a child??? I understand that he will grow up and he will be your enemy one day, BUT hating children isn't it a sin? I know G-d loves children!
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Again this issue is worthless regarding how guilty and how innocent one Muslim can be! If one Muslim wants me to convert to Islam, he IS my enemy! If He wants my country, he is my Enemy! If he wants me dead, He is my enemy! Therefore, I can't hate one innocent child for example! even he/she will grow and will want me dead, as long as he is a child I can't hate him!
That I disagree with. Children of muslim-immigrants are our future enemies.
Only exceptions will choose our side.
In fact less children choose our side then the elderly. Look at the Paris' riots...
Therefore alien kids are not friends, but potential enemies, and must be dealt with accordingly.
How can you hate a child??? I understand that he will grow up and he will be your enemy one day, BUT hating children isn't it a sin? I know G-d loves children!
I don't hate children of muslims in ther own country, but here in Europe, they are growing faster than our population.
This means, that the current muslim-baby-boomers, will be killing me, and my future family.
They are enemies of Europe, and must be deported men/women and children.
Idem with blacks.
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Again this issue is worthless regarding how guilty and how innocent one Muslim can be! If one Muslim wants me to convert to Islam, he IS my enemy! If He wants my country, he is my Enemy! If he wants me dead, He is my enemy! Therefore, I can't hate one innocent child for example! even he/she will grow and will want me dead, as long as he is a child I can't hate him!
That I disagree with. Children of muslim-immigrants are our future enemies.
Only exceptions will choose our side.
In fact less children choose our side then the elderly. Look at the Paris' riots...
Therefore alien kids are not friends, but potential enemies, and must be dealt with accordingly.
How can you hate a child??? I understand that he will grow up and he will be your enemy one day, BUT hating children isn't it a sin? I know G-d loves children!
I don't hate children of muslims in ther own country, but here in Europe, they are growing faster than our population.
This means, that the current muslim-baby-boomers, will be killing me, and my future family.
They are enemies of Europe, and must be deported men/women and children.
Idem with blacks.
I agree with that! This situation is the same as in Kosovo! They came in, and never left the land of Kosovo! But for that children are NOt guilty! Islamic religion is guilty and the people who supports it!
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Again this issue is worthless regarding how guilty and how innocent one Muslim can be! If one Muslim wants me to convert to Islam, he IS my enemy! If He wants my country, he is my Enemy! If he wants me dead, He is my enemy! Therefore, I can't hate one innocent child for example! even he/she will grow and will want me dead, as long as he is a child I can't hate him!
Just like I can't hate bacterias or mosquitoes, nor do I hate Islam, but for my survival it needs to be dealt with. And because muslims are indeed human rather than vermin, We mustn't slay those who are not actively slaying us (collateral damage excluded).
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Again this issue is worthless regarding how guilty and how innocent one Muslim can be! If one Muslim wants me to convert to Islam, he IS my enemy! If He wants my country, he is my Enemy! If he wants me dead, He is my enemy! Therefore, I can't hate one innocent child for example! even he/she will grow and will want me dead, as long as he is a child I can't hate him!
Just like I can't hate bacterias or mosquitoes, nor do I hate Islam, but for my survival it needs to be dealt with. And because muslims are indeed human rather than vermin, We mustn't slay those who are not actively slaying us (collateral damage excluded).
I think hating the children is a sin! G-d loves children!
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well to tell you the truth,catholics aren't that better then muslims(now i don't mean every catholic,i mean the high-ups,with the pope on the throne)tho they work with stealth and manipulation,result is,we have croats killing atleest 1 mil serbs in the lsat 100 yeas
Ither u turn to Catholicism,or you imigrate,or you are fisicaly eraticated(sry 4 my bad spelling once again)
Catholiscs give instructions to the Muslims to invade Serbian lands..
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Again this issue is worthless regarding how guilty and how innocent one Muslim can be! If one Muslim wants me to convert to Islam, he IS my enemy! If He wants my country, he is my Enemy! If he wants me dead, He is my enemy! Therefore, I can't hate one innocent child for example! even he/she will grow and will want me dead, as long as he is a child I can't hate him!
Just like I can't hate bacterias or mosquitoes, nor do I hate Islam, but for my survival it needs to be dealt with. And because muslims are indeed human rather than vermin, We mustn't slay those who are not actively slaying us (collateral damage excluded).
I think hating the children is a sin! G-d loves children!
I AM ABSOLUTELY AGAINST HURTING CHILDREN, And I try not to hate anyone, and never act by hate. Can I be more clear?
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Again this issue is worthless regarding how guilty and how innocent one Muslim can be! If one Muslim wants me to convert to Islam, he IS my enemy! If He wants my country, he is my Enemy! If he wants me dead, He is my enemy! Therefore, I can't hate one innocent child for example! even he/she will grow and will want me dead, as long as he is a child I can't hate him!
Just like I can't hate bacterias or mosquitoes, nor do I hate Islam, but for my survival it needs to be dealt with. And because muslims are indeed human rather than vermin, We mustn't slay those who are not actively slaying us (collateral damage excluded).
I think hating the children is a sin! G-d loves children!
I AM ABSOLUTELY AGAINST HURTING CHILDREN, And I try not to hate anyone, and never act by hate. Can I be more clear?
That's better!!! :P :P :P :)
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I never used HATE!
My parents are Serbs from Montenegro,we are more Tanach,so they said for Serbs from Montenegro!
I wish Jelena Serb(if she is Serb) all the best in the future.I hope she she finds forum that suits her needs to love Muslim. :-* :-*
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I never used HATE!
My parents are Serbs from Montenegro,we are more Tanach ,so they said for Serbs from Montenegro!
I wish Jelena Serb(if she is Serb) all the best in the future.I hope she she finds forum that suits her needs to love Muslim. :-* :-*
... -.-" anywayz,Montenegro IS Serbia!and its Crna Gora or Zeta :)
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This thread was interesting but getting more boring by the second! :)
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This thread was interesting but getting more boring by the second! :)
why? :)
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Jen srb is banned!So what is the point?Jasmina you seem nice but there is a time and place for everything.I dont believe the time for mercy for Muslims and their kids is near!I have trained my children as Christian white nationalists.They would die for our causes!Why would muslim raised children not do the same?Guessing your a young kid,You will see.
Respect comes with this post!
wayne jude :)
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Jen srb is banned!So what is the point?Jasmina you seem nice but there is a time and place for everything.I dont believe the time for mercy for Muslims and their kids is near!I have trained my children as Christian white nationalists.They would die for our causes!Why would muslim raised children not do the same?Guessing your a young kid,You will see.
Respect comes with this post!
wayne jude :)
I just love kids a lot! and I know that G-d loves them too...I personally can't HATE a child, no matter of race, culture, religion!
And I'm not that young! :)
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I dont wish to continue this openly you must know what I mean!If you wish to continue ou of respect PM me.
wayne jude
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O lord bless my dear friends please.Lets us love each another at this forum!
And Lord,please do not make me ever live near muslems,if you have to punish me ,do some other punishment!
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Yes!
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O Lord,please let us unite here for the hard time that is there in the near future!Bless us,to stay kind to each another!
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Amen!
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Well thats another mullah loving leftie gone O0
Bless my enemies with the firing line
Or a big bucket of acid.
Everyway I am fine with ;)
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Well thats another mullah loving leftie gone O0
Bless my enemies with the firing line
Or a big bucket of acid.
Everyway I am fine with ;)
jesus,its not about that she hates or likes muslims,its about not hateing somebody becous he was born muslim(i mean hate a muslim that is an extremist,but if there have been alot of extremists,it doesn't give you the right to hate them all!)if you think like that then you are no better then Hitler that you so hate!
I'm not saying love all muslims,i'm only saying don't hate them all
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Jen srb is banned!So what is the point?Jasmina you seem nice but there is a time and place for everything.I dont believe the time for mercy for Muslims and their kids is near!I have trained my children as Christian white nationalists.They would die for our causes!Why would muslim raised children not do the same?Guessing your a young kid,You will see.
Respect comes with this post!
wayne jude :)
I just love kids a lot! and I know that G-d loves them too...I personally can't HATE a child, no matter of race, culture, religion!
And I'm not that young! :)
Yasmina go Girl :)
I am really proud of you!
You are a true Serbian!
Just continue to behave like a natural person.
I can not imagine that somebody can teach his kids to hate others! That's Croatian and Albanian mentality!
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Well thats another mullah loving leftie gone O0
Bless my enemies with the firing line
Or a big bucket of acid.
Everyway I am fine with ;)
jesus,its not about that she hates or likes muslims,its about not hateing somebody becous he was born muslim(i mean hate a muslim that is an extremist,but if there have been alot of extremists,it doesn't give you the right to hate them all!)if you think like that then you are no better then Hitler that you so hate!
I'm not saying love all muslims,i'm only saying don't hate them all
There's no such thing as a non-extremist muSSlim.
iSSlam and the nazi-koran are a doctrine of hate, mass murder, pack rape and terror. Anyone who follows such a doctrine is a monster.
Saying we should "only hate extremist muSSlims" is like saying we should only hate extremist nazis or extremist kkk members.
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Well thats another mullah loving leftie gone O0
Bless my enemies with the firing line
Or a big bucket of acid.
Everyway I am fine with ;)
jesus,its not about that she hates or likes muslims,its about not hateing somebody becous he was born muslim(i mean hate a muslim that is an extremist,but if there have been alot of extremists,it doesn't give you the right to hate them all!)if you think like that then you are no better then Hitler that you so hate!
I'm not saying love all muslims,i'm only saying don't hate them all
This is the Serbian way of thinking.
Yess! That's true!
We are not fascist! You can not equal children with terrorists!
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Jen srb is banned!So what is the point?Jasmina you seem nice but there is a time and place for everything.I dont believe the time for mercy for Muslims and their kids is near!I have trained my children as Christian white nationalists.They would die for our causes!Why would muslim raised children not do the same?Guessing your a young kid,You will see.
Respect comes with this post!
wayne jude :)
I just love kids a lot! and I know that G-d loves them too...I personally can't HATE a child, no matter of race, culture, religion!
And I'm not that young! :)
Yasmina go Girl :)
I am really proud of you!
You are a true Serbian!
Just continue to behave like a natural person.
I can not imagine that somebody can teach his kids to hate others! That's Croatian and Albanian mentality!
Thank you Dalmacija! Very nice of you! :) :) :)
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iSSlam and the nazi-koran are a doctrine of hate, mass murder, pack rape and terror. Anyone who follows such a doctrine is a monster.
Saying we should "only hate extremist muSSlims" is like saying we should only hate extremist nazis or extremist kkk members.
Do you really believe this theory?
Oke, than this must also count for Catholics!
Just let me tell you one thing Catholics and Protestants (non Orthodox Christians)
killed more Jews than all Muslims together from the days of Mohamed!
I do not see you talk like that about them?
Are you a true Jew?
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Thank you Dalmacija! Very nice of you! :) :) :)
O0
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iSSlam and the nazi-koran are a doctrine of hate, mass murder, pack rape and terror. Anyone who follows such a doctrine is a monster.
Saying we should "only hate extremist muSSlims" is like saying we should only hate extremist nazis or extremist kkk members.
Do you really believe this theory?
Oke, than this must also count for Catholics!
Just let me tell you one thing Catholics and Protestants (non Orthodox Christians)
killed more Jews than all Muslims together from the days of Mohamed!
I do not see you talk like that about them?
Are you a true Jew?
indeed!
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Hating anyone, even our enemies, is not what Christianity is about, and, as far as I know, not what Judaism is about. Hatered begets only hatered and nothing good can come out of it. It devours you from within, like a cancer...
Yes, there are people who hate us only because we are Christians/Jews/Serbs/white/black or whatever, but that definitely is not an excuse for us to hate them. If someone tries to hurt me or my loved ones, I will definitely do whatever I can to stop him, but even then I will try not to hate him...
Or even if I fail at that, at least I will not be proud of it...
Hatered often hides behind all kinds of excuses, but, the truth is, it doesn't really need them. If someone carries hatered in him, the excuse will be easy to find...
When I hear or read things like this, I allways remember the incident that happened a couple of years ago. There was this handball match in Zagreb (Croatia) between Partizan (Belgrade) and Zagreb. During the match Croat fans started a fight, and after the match they beat up Serbian reporters, demolished the Partizan's buses and so on. Next week, a basketball team from Zagreb called Cibona came to Belgrade to play a match against basketball team Partizan. Of course, Partizan fans announced that they are preparing a warm wellcome for them. Cibona's fans, of course, did not show up. But, the same night, after the match, there was a fight between Partizan fans, and two boys were stabbed badly...
Point is - when there is a hatered, it will find a way... In this case - some idiot came to the game to stab some Croats. But, when there is not a Croat around, a Serb will do quite as well...
Hatered does not choose...
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Sad story! I see your point!
But, we can't LOVE our enemies if they are TRULY our enemies...for example if our lands are involved, we have to fight! If our nation is involved, we have to fight! If our family is involved, of course we have to fight! :) :) :)
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That goes without saying...
And, I might add, by any means necessary...
I know how hard it is not to hate enemies, let alone to love them. But, when such a thing as war happens, it is not hatered we feel for our enemies that is going to give us strength to fight them, but our love for our family and our country...
One thing is sure - in war, haters are the first to flee or hide...
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Really nice words nishuzawa :)