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The Worldwide Crisis of Islam => The Truth About Islam => Topic started by: george_jtf on November 16, 2008, 04:44:02 AM
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I would love to hear from everyone with their opinion which of these two is the worse evil.
Personally, I am having a difficulty deciding, so I need your help.
Thank you
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Islam of course. that is a no brainer
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Islam is the worst,that could happened to anybody,Just imagine living in Iran?
Communism is very nasty,but it does not last long.In communisam there are some sane people,not everybody is communist.
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Shalom brother George,
Ask yourself, if you had no other choice, would you rather live in Cuba or Iran?
Or ask yourself, "if I had no other choice, where do I think my family and I would live longer?" In Cuba or Iran?
Or watch a few Islamic beheading videos then let us know which you think is the greater evil.
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Islam is worst.
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No contest. Islam is a demon from hell!! >:(
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I think there is a symbiosis of Communist/Socialist ideology in our countries and Islam. It is obvious, that the Moslems i.e. in Israel need welfare in order not to die from starvation. Socialist policy is providing it. The same is with the concept of foreign aid and various anti-discrimination laws.
Of course Islam is deadly for us, but imo the source of our suffering is Socialism in it's different physiognomies.
The proof is, that all Muslims, that are able to vote in our countries are giving their votes to the leftists. And they are exspecting of course an equivalent for this and they are getting it from this wicked traiterous figures. >:(
So it is not so easy as it seems to be on the first view.
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Both are dangerous. But at least a communist may not share all communist ideas. A Muslim is supposed to adhere to all Islmaic dogmas. And if his leaders interpret those dogmas as an obligation to support terror, he'll surely be a terrorist.
Anyway, communism has been controlled now. Islam is a death threat to Humanity. Communists had nukes for fifty years and they didn't destroy the world. If Muslim get nukes, chas veShalom, it's the end of the world!!!
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In one sense, Islam is much worse than anything, because it commits its crimes in the name of G-d. That is the greatest desecration of His name.
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With muslim terror and communist terror I would like to compare the terror unleashed against innocent babies by abortionists and the cultural destruction and spreading of AIDS by fags who are biological terrorists.
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With muslim terror and communist terror I would like to compare the terror unleashed against innocent babies by abortionists and the cultural destruction and spreading of AIDS by fags who are biological terrorists.
You should be careful with what you say. Islamic terror is at our door and we cannot afford backfiring on ourselves.
STD are only transmitted to others who engage in sexual immorality or unsafe sex, and they know the risks. Cultural destruction is not like terror attacks. Religious people can avoid cultural destrucction by keeping their values, no matter what others do. But they cannot avoid being killed by terror.
If my neighbours wanted to have an orgy with sex and drugs, they would only sicken themselves. I can simply not take part in it, and even close my window. And nothing will happen to me.
On the other hand, if they decide to be terrorists and place a bomb, there no way to ecape anihilation.
This argument about cultural destruction only favours Mullahs on two sides! On one side, they can argue that they are defending themselves against Western immorality. On the other side, neutral people could say that all religions are at war, and do nothing to stop Islam.
Regarding abortion, you are right. They are crimes against Humanity.
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With muslim terror and communist terror I would like to compare the terror unleashed against innocent babies by abortionists and the cultural destruction and spreading of AIDS by fags who are biological terrorists.
You should be carefullwith what you say. Islamic terror is at our door and we cannot afford backfiring on ourselves.
STD are only transmitted to others who engage in sexual immorality or unsafe sex, and they know the risks. Cultural destruction is not like terror attacks. Religious people can avoid cultural destrucction by keeping their values, no matter what others do. But they cannot avoid being killed by terror.
If my neighbours wanted to have an orgy with sex and drugs, they would only sicken themselves. I can simply not take part in it, and even close my window. And nothing will happen to me.
On the other hand, if they decide to be terrorists and place a bomb, there no way to ecape anihilation.
This argument about cultural destruction only favours Mullahs on two sides! On one side, they can argue that they are defending themselves against Western immorality. On the other side, neutral people could say thatall religions are at war, and do nothing to stop Islam.
Regarding abortion, you are right. They are crimes against Humanity.
I agree to your statement nearly at all.
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With muslim terror and communist terror I would like to compare the terror unleashed against innocent babies by abortionists and the cultural destruction and spreading of AIDS by fags who are biological terrorists.
You should be careful with what you say. Islamic terror is at our door and we cannot afford backfiring on ourselves.
STD are only transmitted to others who engage in sexual immorality or unsafe sex, and they know the risks. Cultural destruction is not like terror attacks. Religious people can avoid cultural destrucction by keeping their values, no matter what others do. But they cannot avoid being killed by terror.
If my neighbours wanted to have an orgy with sex and drugs, they would only sicken themselves. I can simply not take part in it, and even close my window. And nothing will happen to me.
On the other hand, if they decide to be terrorists and place a bomb, there no way to ecape anihilation.
This argument about cultural destruction only favours Mullahs on two sides! On one side, they can argue that they are defending themselves against Western immorality. On the other side, neutral people could say that all religions are at war, and do nothing to stop Islam.
Regarding abortion, you are right. They are crimes against Humanity.
I should have phrased it differently. It should have been militant gay activists rather! Militant gay activists look for victims, they want recognizon, they want you to agree with their life style and if you disagree you are called as a hatemonger. Militant gay activists come to public school and teach your children that homosexuality as normal. Your children need to participate in gay pride week activities and many more evil things like these. However I do have sympathy for a homosexual who realizes that he had been enslaved by this sin and wants to come out of it. For a militant gay activists who wants me to accept his life style as normal and want to sue religious people for not accepting them (like Pastors & Rabbis who refuse to "marry" them, religious photographer who refuse to take pictures at their "wedding" ceremony etc.,) I have no mercy.
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Your children need to participate in gay pride week activities and many more evil things like these.
It's not happening here yet, but I fear it may happen with this leftist Govt.
Now, who is promoting these policies? Gays are 6% of the population at maximum. Some of them are in the closet and others, even being openly gay and practising homosexuality, oppose this. So who is passing those bills in parliaments?
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Your children need to participate in gay pride week activities and many more evil things like these.
It's not happening here yet, but I fear it may happen with this leftist Govt.
Now, who is promoting these policies? Gays are 6% of the population at maximum. Some of them are in the closet and others, even being openly gay and practising homosexuality, oppose this. So who is passing those bills in parliaments?
Here we go!
http://www.massresistance.com/docs/marriage/effects_of_ssm.html
http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php/topic,28837.msg301102.html#msg301102
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Your children need to participate in gay pride week activities and many more evil things like these.
It's not happening here yet, but I fear it may happen with this leftist Govt.
Now, who is promoting these policies? Gays are 6% of the population at maximum. Some of them are in the closet and others, even being openly gay and practising homosexuality, oppose this. So who is passing those bills in parliaments?
Here we go!
http://www.massresistance.com/docs/marriage/effects_of_ssm.html
http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php/topic,28837.msg301102.html#msg301102
Private schools are the only solution. We have to seperate from them.
If they try to force or agitate us, we should lie to them directly into their ugly face. Imo we owe such "people" nothing, because they are not our brothers.
I have read even yesterday the so called "rectorates speech" of Calvin. There he compares not only them with animals, but all godless people.
Plus Chaim has said on this weeks ask-JTF, that it is not wise to confront them in our private lifes. Imo he is right.
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Private schools are the only solution. We have to seperate from them.
If they try to force or agitate us, we should lie to them directly into their ugly face. Imo we owe such "people" nothing, because they are not our brothers.
I have read even yesterday the so called "rectorates speech" of Calvin. There he compares not only them with animals, but all godless people.
Plus Chaim has said on this weeks ask-JTF, that it is not wise to confront them in our private lifes. Imo he is right.
Private school may be an option for religious families. But , no, we cannot and must not allow any form of indoctrination in public schools. No child maust be indoctrinated. The State belongs to us, we pay taxes. There is no right to use public schools for evil purposes like indoctrination!
But extremism, like calling G-dless people (atheists) animals, does not help! It sounds like Islamic speech. We need peace and union if we want to save our lands in Europe and America from a Muslim Arab invasion. That issue in schools should be solved peacefully. The most fair and neutral solution is that those issues are not addressed at schools at all. Not to teach children to hate anybody whatever they do, and not to teach them to approve any controversial behaviour. Children go to schol to learn, not be recruited for sectarian activism. Just let them have their own opinion when they are adults, guided by their reason and their conscience. Most States respect religious freedom, so it is illegal to teach anything offensive to their religious principles.
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Raul, in Europe Religion for itself is controversial, if it is not Islam, because the leftists need the votes of the welfare-quranimals, who are unable to earn their living in a natural way.
We have to be realistic: There is no betterment. Here is a very influential teacher labour union called GEW and they are openly bolschewist. And I a mean bolschewist.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gewerkschaft_Erziehung_und_Wissenschaft
I went to school here 12 years and I can tell. It is like in a communist re-education camp.
Separation is the only way.
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There is no equivalence to islam, it is by far the cruelest, vilest and most despicable creation in the history of mankind.
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If we separate from the rest of the society and let public schools to Leftist and Muslims, in a few years we'll have an Islamic Republic in Europe and separation will profit us nothing since Muslims will kill us in our own houses.
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If we separate from the rest of the society and let public schools to Leftist and Muslims, in a few years we'll have an Islamic Republic in Europe and separation will profit us nothing since Muslims will kill us in our own houses.
Raul, you have a point.
Of course, I didn't want this to happen, but in a long term is at least for my country my strategy better.
If you confront the leftists and quranimals openly, you will loose and end in the best case in jail in the worst you will be dead. So now is time for reorganisation.
This reorganisation can only be successfull if you will have a safe place for retreat. This can only be the community.
If consolidation was successfull, good people can pressure for a real paleo-liberal policy.
But in the moment people are mostly isolated and in the best case in very small groups.
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They are both Evil, Communism and Islam are evil, they are the devil's advocate.
Both are an established way of life, but Islam represents violence and death, intimidation, and taking us back to the violence of the middle ages and Crusades.
300 Spartans, the new remake with Gerard Butler will explain the violence of Persia, and Xerxes, which was Iran. The only language they understood was King Leonidis, and his Spartans who were masters of the sword, valor, and courage.
King Leonidis and Sparta slaughtered millions of Xerxes armies. They were the best skilled fighting men on the planet. You see the disregard for life in the muslim armies even in that era. Force stronger than their own is the only thing that works, I don't think a change of attitude will ever come about.
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Islam is far worse. Muslims have killed more people.
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I think there is a symbiosis of Communist/Socialist ideology in our countries and Islam. It is obvious, that the Moslems i.e. in Israel need welfare in order not to die from starvation. Socialist policy is providing it. The same is with the concept of foreign aid and various anti-discrimination laws.
Of course Islam is deadly for us, but imo the source of our suffering is Socialism in it's different physiognomies.
The proof is, that all Muslims, that are able to vote in our countries are giving their votes to the leftists. And they are exspecting of course an equivalent for this and they are getting it from this wicked traiterous figures. >:(
So it is not so easy as it seems to be on the first view.
Excellent quote. True. The Muzzies are using the left to gain an advantage politically and economically. My Dearest wish is to wake up one morning and find them all gone.
Shalom - Dox
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one reason why islam is worse is that it is suicidal..
so nuclear weapons might not be a deterrent to an islammic with nuclear weapons. (netanyahu pointed that out when talking to bill maher, and with others too)
communism is a funny one.. I am not sure if it is that well understood.. we always hear weird new things, like they took an interest in yoga to destroy america. I guess it wasn't -that- effective! Islammic terrorism is more of an irritant.. But the nuke threat is the really worrying thing.
still, if the arabs did it, then I would hope that israel or america would make sure that the whole middle east glows green.
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Islam of course. Islam is the real devil (also more practical than the Communism),although the Communism is the Islam's ally. Before the collapse of USSR,Communism was a more practical enemy than now,but it was back then (at least the way I look at this insane crap).
Mussies have no fear of suiciding for their goal (faith),which you all know. However,the Commies are afraid of that (at least now). Also,they are totally not afraid of using nuclear weapons (unlike the Soviets,who didn't want to fight America because of the fear of nuclear war).
p.s: correct me if I have spelling/grammar mistakes.
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Islamic Communism...
...as in the true agenda of Barack Hussein Obama!
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Communism at its height was much tamer than Islam ever has been or will be. Its threat was overhyped (for political reasons) at best. I mean, when was the last time you heard somone willingly killing himself (or herself) or his (or her) children to fight the evil capitalists? As far as I know, no communist ever tied a suicide belt around his waist to explode outside a pizzeria. Also it is important to remember that communism was rejected by many people who lived under it. This is not the case with Islam.... Islam as an ideology is infinitely more dangerous since it has learnt from the mistakes of communism and is especially appealing to more and more Western and 'free' societies. Islam is like a parasite that lives off the generosity of the welfare state. (Just look at the Muslim population in Western Europe) It is easier to find fanatic Muslims in the US and Canada in a way it would have been impossible to find communists openly demonstrating in the middle of NYC or outside Western capitals. They would be gunned down by the authorities in a nanosecond. It is interesting to note that in many Arab countries Islam became the fundamental voice of the masses only when all other secular dogmas (pan Arabism, socialism, communism........) completely collapsed. All that was left were the mosques and the imams. In any Muslim country it is permissable to wipe out godless institutions of the West but the mosque is untouchable!!!!!!!! This is how the hateful message of Islam spreads. Communism at its peak was never so blatant or loved by so many with such passion. I conclude by saying that Islam has killed more people throughout history than the worst Communist dictators like Stalin and Mao
Shalom
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Communism at its height was much tamer than Islam ever has been or will be. Its threat was overhyped (for political reasons) at best. I mean, when was the last time you heard somone willingly killing himself (or herself) or his (or her) children to fight the evil capitalists? As far as I know, no communist ever tied a suicide belt around his waist to explode outside a pizzeria. Also it is important to remember that communism was rejected by many people who lived under it. This is not the case with Islam.... Islam as an ideology is infinitely more dangerous since it has learnt from the mistakes of communism and is especially appealing to more and more Western and 'free' societies. Islam is like a parasite that lives off the generosity of the welfare state. (Just look at the Muslim population in Western Europe) It is easier to find fanatic Muslims in the US and Canada in a way it would have been impossible to find communists openly demonstrating in the middle of NYC or outside Western capitals. They would be gunned down by the authorities in a nanosecond. It is interesting to note that in many Arab countries Islam became the fundamental voice of the masses only when all other secular dogmas (pan Arabism, socialism, communism........) completely collapsed. All that was left were the mosques and the imams. In any Muslim country it is permissable to wipe out godless institutions of the West but the mosque is untouchable!!!!!!!! This is how the hateful message of Islam spreads. Communism at its peak was never so blatant or loved by so many with such passion. I conclude by saying that Islam has killed more people throughout history than the worst Communist dictators like Stalin and Mao
Shalom
Hi Ron, first I would like to welcome you to the forum. Secondly I do have to agree with you regarding communism. While I hate communists and they are dictatorial, communists do not have the thirst for blood that the Moslems have. If the communists took over, that would be horrid and economically the world would take a big dump, but Islam is a different story. Islam seeks to do mass genocides worldwide, if they suceeded, G-d forbid, there would be stadiums filled with all kinds of horrors, shootings, beheadings, stonings, the list is endless of the horrors Islam has planned for our planet.
Good post and again, welcome to the JTF.
Shalom - Dox
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Islamic Communism...
...as in the true agenda of Barack Hussein Obama!
exactly.
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Islam! Islam is the evil and Allah is the devil!
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Obislammunism
obama+islam+communism
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Obislammunism
obama+islam+communism
you forgot nazism ;)