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Kahanist Singles => Jewish Singles => Topic started by: mord on June 12, 2007, 10:55:18 AM
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http://www.sephardicdating.com/homepage.html
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I don't agree with sites like this. It only promotes the notion that racial identity is important for Jews. A Jew is a Jew regardless of race. I'm not Jewish but I don't see a real reason for Sephardics to only marry Sephardics or Ashkenazis to only marry Ashkenazis and so on. If you're a Sephardic and only attracted to middle-eastern looking people then I suppose it's ok, but still... What is a good idea is for people to keep their cultural identity though :).
Also, this site allows you to search for male companions if you are a male and vice versa for females. This indicates they promote homosexuality as a viable alternative to real male/female relationships and marriages. Again, why make being Jewish an issue if you're gonna promote homosexuality? Seems very silly.
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Yes i agree with you
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Yeah that doesn't make sense. Jews are Jews and should be able to marry any other Jew.
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This is a weird site, I've never seen anything like this. If there was an Ashkenazi dating site, people would probably call it ethnocentric. I think this mostly has to do with culture than ethnicity. Believe it or not, there is a cultural difference between them and Ashkenazim. I can sympathize with Sfaradim though because they make up a minority of American and European Jews. It's harder for them to find partners than for Ashkenazim, so if they want to use a dating site I think that's fine. I have no problem if a Sfardic Jew wants to marry someone who shares the same culture. If they want to find a Sfardic mate, more power to them, at least they're dedicated to finding a Jewish parter, so that's good.
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the ownerhas his own website http://moshe.sephardicelite.com/
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http://www.sephardicelite.com/
Hello everyone,
The goal of this website is to reach out to Sephardim nation-wide. Unfortunately, Sephardim, the nobility of Jewry, have either assimilated with our inferiors or have forgotten their identity. For a long time now we have been subjected to the will of others, often hiding our proud nature and culture to "fit in" with the masses. This is no longer the case. We must arise once more and show the world our superior character, fulfilling that which Don Isaac Abravanel wrote so eloquently about. We must change our present status in society, maximizing our potential to its greatest extent. With your help all this will no longer be a dream but a reality.
“From the rising of the sun to its setting, from the north to south, there were never such a chosen people [as the Jews of Spain] in beauty and pleasantness; and afterwards, there will never be another such people..."
- Don Isaac Abravanel
this guy is a mental case
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What the heck? The Nobility of Jewry? LOL ROFL. Where does he get these ideas from? He must have some sort of deep antithesis to Ashkenazim. He's right about assimilating with their inferiors though, I would consider arabs to be inferior to Jews. It's weird that he's advocating some type of special chosenness of the Sephardim over Ashkenazim, that's just insane. He seems like a scam artist too with his Win 100 dollars for free website!
Woah, we can promote or denote people now, sweeet. :)
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I think he's a lITTLE KID TRYING TO GET A DATE
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They have something where you can pick if you are a man or a woman seeking a man or a woman. So you have to click that you are a man and separately that you are seeking a woman. I hope that doesn't mean they have fag "dating".
lol lol lol lol :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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I think I'm going to sign up and post pale Ashkenazi pictures of myself and say that I'm seeking a Sephardic woman. Seeing a lowly peasant such as myself trying to get together with one of the "nobility of Jewry" will probably attract the scorn of the dude who made the site and all his wacky little friends.
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THAT WOULD BE FUNNY
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I actually like that their is some seperation, most of you wouldnt understand but for us it doesnt seem right that Sefardim are allways under the control of Askenazim, the Yeshiva system is just one example where we have Sefardim learning by Askenazim and never vica versa.
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I actually like that their is some seperation, most of you wouldnt understand but for us it doesnt seem right that Sefardim are allways under the control of Askenazim, the Yeshiva system is just one example where we have Sefardim learning by Askenazim and never vica versa.
What does it matter, as long as we're all Jews? Ashkenazim are not in control of anything and Sfaradim aren't under any control, it's just all Jews together with one another.
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I don't like the notion of it, but who are any of us to say what Jews a Jew can and can't date?
If you don't like that dating site, don't go on there!
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Would any of you guys think about dating or possibly procreating with an Ethiopian Jew? Of course given that she would be an actual Jewish woman and not like many of the Ethiopians in Israel who convert to Christianity and such. I'm asking partially because of Chaim Fan's comment about "dung covered fingers." LOL
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LOL, I didn't mean for my comment to be taken that far. It was a simple insult at Erica, to imply that she is a typical black baboon buffoon.
And for the record, I am not a Jew, but I would have no problem marrying a righteous black Christian lady who shares my views and passions.
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I don't agree with sites like this. It only promotes the notion that racial identity is important for Jews. A Jew is a Jew regardless of race. I'm not Jewish but I don't see a real reason for Sephardics to only marry Sephardics or Ashkenazis to only marry Ashkenazis and so on. If you're a Sephardic and only attracted to middle-eastern looking people then I suppose it's ok, but still... What is a good idea is for people to keep their cultural identity though Smiley.
Thunderbolt, you are absolutely right. Unfortunately, many Jews don't see it that way. And I know from first hand experience, because my parents are Iranian. They believe that marrying another Iranian Jew from the community, since they know the parents and the relatives. They feel that with unknown Ashkenaz Jews, they don't know what they are getting.
But it's like this with some Ashkenaz Jews as well (although to their credit, they frown upon consanguinous marriages unlike their Iranian counterparts). For example, I have a very Middle Eastern sounding last name. So one time as a young girl in my Hebrew school, the Rabbi (who had a German sounding last name) came up to me and rudely asked me my last name, which he then mispronounced. When I corrected him, he even more rudely demanded to know the origin of the name. When I told him, he just walked away.
And I have another example for you. A friend of mine had a very good childhood friend. My friend's friend was raised by a very strict German Jewish stepfather. Anyway, this girl met a young Eastern European Jewish man, and they really liked each other. The stepfather was horrified at this, and demanded that the girl break it off. Now I don't know what happened with this girl, but I am told that she died in her 20's from a stroke.
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MAYBE BUTTHAT YOUNG GUY RUNS IT HE MUST 18 PROBABLY HE'S TRYING TO MEET A GIRL..IT'S FREE TO JOIN.THE SITE JDATE CHARGES I NEVER KNEW THERE WERE GAYS ON THE SITE JUST LEFTISTS.
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I wonder if the site would allow people who are part Sfardic and part Ashekenazic like myself and Chaim.
If your part Sefardi then your Sefardi becuase the Sefardic genes are the more dominant ones. (just kidding).
Lisa- stay with your own kind, I mean it. going for people with other cultures is difficult and hard to ajust, remember its not only you marrying your husband, your family also has to get along with him. Why would you want an Askenazi guy when their are many Persian Jewish men availabe. I personally would only go for a Bukharian Jewish girl, or a culturally Sefardic girl, and mayyyybe an askenazi girl if she is extremly attractive and overall a success (as if that type would go for me, but you never know)
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I think i'm going to join and say i'm a Jew from Rawanda and sefardic and post a picture of Idi Amin
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Would any of you guys think about dating or possibly procreating with an Ethiopian Jew? Of course given that she would be an actual Jewish woman and not like many of the Ethiopians in Israel who convert to Christianity and such. I'm asking partially because of Chaim Fan's comment about "dung covered fingers." LOL
I wouldn't. I'm only attracted to white women.
White to you is Caucasiod, since many Shepardim are dark skined.
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How about if you daven nusach sfard
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I think i'm going to join and say i'm a Jew from Rawanda and sefardic and post a picture of Idi Amin
You mean Uganda!
Your right Uganda, i'm going to do it ,they ask for the Rabbi of your shul the rabbi of my shul is Sefardic :laugh:
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Is it an Orthodox site?
They ask for the Rabbi of your Shul so maybe
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My uncle calls Ashekenazim "Ashekenaziftim". He thinks it's stupid to go to Ashkenazic synagogues. He's ethnocentric. He calls salad at Sbarro at the mall "Ashkenazic salad" because it's not the small pieces of salad like Israeli salad. He doesn't understand that it's Ashkenazic or Sfardic, but rather Italian.
My grandmother only make Iraqi food. For holidays she makes the same food as everyday. At my house in The United States, we have special food for holidays such as brisket or turkey. I made that for myself when I was at my grandmother's house for holidays. She said "What are we, Ashkenazim". I said that my mother is Ashkenazic and that she doesn't make Ashkenazic food all the time. I usually only eat Ashkenazic food for holidays such as chicken soup and gefilte fish. For the rest of the year, I eat food of whatever ethnicity. My grandmother says she's not a restaurant. My uncle said gefilte fish is not Kosher For Passover but rather "Kosher For Purim".
I eat both Askanazi and sefardic,i wonder what he considers Sefardic?is Italian o.k. ,greek, turkish,Albanian ,Yugoslavian,portugesse.Or does he mean Yemenite or Iraqi,Egyptian,or Syrian.I bet he's Syrian. How about Libyan ,morrocan or Tunisian Jews
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He's Iraqi.
Some foods aren't Jewish foods, so they aren't Ashkenazic or Sfardic.
I know i don'nt think any food is stricktly Jewish
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I actually enjoy(ed) having a taste of Chulant on Shabb-t, but besides that askenazi food is never spicy like Sefardi food (the way I like it).
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Gen tzo extra spicy kosher chinesse ;D
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Why did Jews start getting classified as Sephardic or Ashkenazic and why do some people still use these classifications? I think it had to do with differences in culture among people living in different regions of Europe. But why did want some kind of a difference in culture?
Does this thread belong in the dating section?
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My uncle calls Ashekenazim "Ashekenaziftim". He thinks it's stupid to go to Ashkenazic synagogues. He's ethnocentric. He calls salad at Sbarro at the mall "Ashkenazic salad" because it's not the small pieces of salad like Israeli salad. He doesn't understand that it's Ashkenazic or Sfardic, but rather Italian.
My grandmother only make Iraqi food. For holidays she makes the same food as everyday. At my house in The United States, we have special food for holidays such as brisket or turkey. I made that for myself when I was at my grandmother's house for holidays. She said "What are we, Ashkenazim". I said that my mother is Ashkenazic and that she doesn't make Ashkenazic food all the time. I usually only eat Ashkenazic food for holidays such as chicken soup and gefilte fish. For the rest of the year, I eat food of whatever ethnicity. My grandmother says she's not a restaurant. My uncle said gefilte fish is not Kosher For Passover but rather "Kosher For Purim".
Why is it called Israeli salad? When I've got this from Kosher places, it wasn't much different from other salads.
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I actually like that their is some seperation, most of you wouldnt understand but for us it doesnt seem right that Sefardim are allways under the control of Askenazim, the Yeshiva system is just one example where we have Sefardim learning by Askenazim and never vica versa.
What does it matter, as long as we're all Jews? Ashkenazim are not in control of anything and Sfaradim aren't under any control, it's just all Jews together with one another.
Ehud, in Israel, the Ashkenazim control 90% of the govermant, yeshivas, high-tech compenys ect', some of tham thinks that the sfaradim are inferior to tham .
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I actually like that their is some seperation, most of you wouldnt understand but for us it doesnt seem right that Sefardim are allways under the control of Askenazim, the Yeshiva system is just one example where we have Sefardim learning by Askenazim and never vica versa.
What does it matter, as long as we're all Jews? Ashkenazim are not in control of anything and Sfaradim aren't under any control, it's just all Jews together with one another.
Ehud, in Israel, the Ashkenazim control 90% of the govermant, yeshivas, high-tech compenys ect', some of tham thinks that the sfaradim are inferior to tham .
That's why they are sitting on their tuchis while the mostly Sephardic town of Sterod is being blasted by muslim rockets. The Askenazi elite couldn't care less.
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I was wondering, was Meir Kahane Ashkenazi or Sephardic? I tried looking it up but found nothing.
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Sephardim are still looked down upon by many ashkenazim in Israel and the government is still anti-sepharadic to an extent, perhaps it is because many hold right wing, anti-arab views (justifiably), but most likely the "Shwortzechai" mentality still exists amongst some Ashkenazim.
There was a Yediot Ahronot piece a few weeks ago that found that Moroccons for example are still overlooked for jobs in favour of ashkenazim with lesser qualifications (it must also be said that Russians, Ethiopians and Charedim were also overlooked).
Does anyone really believe that the Israeli government would allow arab rockets to fly in everyday on North Tel Aviv or Ramat Hasharon? They don't care about Sderot, a mostly Sepharadic town.
This Sepharadic Dating site is a great idea!
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Sephardim are still looked down upon by many ashkenazim in Israel and the government is still anti-sepharadic to an extent, perhaps it is because many hold right wing, anti-arab views (justifiably), but most likely the "Shwortzechai" mentality still exists amongst some Ashkenazim.
There was a Yediot Ahronot piece a few weeks ago that found that Moroccons for example are still overlooked for jobs in favour of ashkenazim with lesser qualifications (it must also be said that Russians, Ethiopians and Charedim were also overlooked).
Does anyone really believe that the Israeli government would allow arab rockets to fly in everyday on North Tel Aviv or Ramat Hasharon? They don't care about Sderot, a mostly Sepharadic town.
This Sepharadic Dating site is a great idea!
What does "Shwortzechai" mean?
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What does "Shwortzechai" mean?
"Black animal" in Yiddish.
Is Shwortzechim the plural?
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I was wondering, was Meir Kahane Ashkenazi or Sephardic? I tried looking it up but found nothing.
Half sefardic half ashkenazi .
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The yiddish curse word for blacks is "Shvartza Chalereh", shvartza by itself is benign and just means black.
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If you're a Sephardic and only attracted to middle-eastern looking people then I suppose it's ok, but still... What is a good idea is for people to keep their cultural identity though :).
I guess I'm the ironic twist that doesn't fit the stereotype because I'm Sephardic and as un-middle-eastern looking as you can get. Go figure. :)
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Why did Jews start getting classified as Sephardic or Ashkenazic and why do some people still use these classifications? I think it had to do with differences in culture among people living in different regions of Europe. But why did want some kind of a difference in culture?
Does this thread belong in the dating section?
Because there are some physical and cultural differences between the sephardic and ashkenazi.
although i'm a mix since my mothers German (ethnic) but my dads North African and Romanian (there was a large sephardic population there), I think I identify more as Sephardic. None of our family really ate "Ashkenazi" cuisine, I think couscous was more common at our dinner table.
Anyways, there are less Sephardic than Ashkenazi so I can understand why they want to stick together.
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If your part Sefardi then your Sefardi becuase the Sefardic genes are the more dominant ones. (just kidding).
Lisa- stay with your own kind, I mean it. going for people with other cultures is difficult and hard to ajust, remember its not only you marrying your husband, your family also has to get along with him. Why would you want an Askenazi guy when their are many Persian Jewish men availabe. I personally would only go for a Bukharian Jewish girl, or a culturally Sefardic girl, and mayyyybe an askenazi girl if she is extremly attractive and overall a success (as if that type would go for me, but you never know)
We Jews are one people.. I hate when we enforce cultural divides, as if the Jewish heart can be divided. Sorry Ben Roshel, I want to agree with you, but cannot here. On another note, I am Ashkenazi, but find I am more culturally Persian/Sefardi./Mizrachi. I attend a Sefardic synagogue with an Ashkenazi rabbi. I don't want to marry an Ashkenazi woman, but would if I actually met one I liked. Maybe, its the fact I grew up with a very meshugah and dominating secular Ashkenazi mother and grandmother is why I fear to marry one.