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Title: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
Post by: JewishAmericanPatriot on June 09, 2010, 07:56:28 AM
http://afrikaner-genocide-achives.blogspot.com/2010/06/jewish-activist-avigdor-eskin-supports.html

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The Russian-Jewish activist Avigdor Eskin, who lives in Jerusalem, has given his support to the Afrikaners for their freedom struggle. Speaking on a YouTube video from his home in Jerusalem, he said many Jews feel with him that the State of Israel had a great friend in South Africa during apartheid.
He’d also met General Hendrik van den Bergh (who headed the bureau of state security, Boss). Eskin described Van den Bergh as ‘a man of great dignity and faith.” At a time when our people were being turned away by many countries during the holocaust,  South Africa opened up its gates to many refugees from the Holocaust,” he said.
“I had the privilege of being a friend of South Africa until Mandela took over the country. I’ve never met a people like the Afrikaners, so honest and with so much love for Israel,’ he said.
‘The Afrikaners were forced into the referendum-vote by foreign powers who had convinced F W de Klerk to do so, he said.
“And now we in Israel have nothing but enemies in Pretoria, that government now has become friends with Hammas and THE many other enemies of Israel.’

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I foresee a question: what about apartheid? I give the answer: we do not specify the Boers on how to govern, but if you look at the origins of our morality and then take a look at African realities, we must reach the conclusion that our Afrikaner friends created a highly sophisticated model of society.

If someone wants to learn the traditional Jewish view on the race issue, then let them open the ninth chapter of Genesis and read about the paradigm of the historical fate of the descendants of Ham. These provisions are reinforced in the Talmud. They are particularly bright documented in the collection of midrash "Meam Loaiza. To refine the recall: Rabbi Yehuda Halevi in the very beginning of his book "Kuzari" wrote that a “black’s lack of natural ability, and a human face and the ability to sayings from them - essentially a shortage." No less sharp and a great Maimonides (Rambam), who at the beginning of the 51st chapter in the third part of his work "around the misguided" writes: "As for blacks, living in the south and in our area, I consider them to be irrational creatures. They are not at the human level, and below it, but above the level of a monkey, because its appearance have human form and have higher mental abilities than a monkey. " Interestingly, in Hebrew numerology name President Obama gives 48, as the name Ham.
Apartheid was never a form of slavery, but in fact it was designed to create optimal living conditions for the development of blacks. It is noteworthy that many millions of blacks were stopped from coming into the country during apartheid because they were being decimated in their own countries.

However today, South Africa has ceased to be an attractive place. More than three thousand white farmers were brutally murdered by negroid criminals in recent years. Those of you who say that crime is not race-related:  the criminals do belong to a specific race – as do their victims. ...

Apartheid has emerged as a humane embodiment of the ideas of the ninth chapter of the first books of the Bible.
Title: Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
Post by: mord on June 09, 2010, 08:39:47 AM
sounds good with me
Title: Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
Post by: Ben m on June 09, 2010, 08:46:12 AM
sounds good with me
sounds good to me too.every true israeli and every true westerner should help the real owners of south africa: the boers.and we need to save them from the genocide the schvartzas committing against them every day and every hour.
Title: Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
Post by: Maccabee01 on June 09, 2010, 08:50:09 AM
Amen, and the same for Rhodesia too...
Title: Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
Post by: Hyades on June 09, 2010, 10:39:36 AM
sounds good with me
sounds good to me too.every true israeli and every true westerner should help the real owners of south africa: the boers.and we need to save them from the genocide the schvartzas committing against them every day and every hour.

Sorry, but you sound like the Germans who almost wiped out an entire tribe in Namibia just because some dozens of them robbed some German and Dutch villages and raped the women. This is disgusting but does in no way make a genocide a legal or justified action.
Title: Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
Post by: Rubystars on June 09, 2010, 11:13:48 AM
I'm glad that someone is speaking up for the whites in South Africa.
Title: Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
Post by: Ben m on June 09, 2010, 11:15:41 AM
sounds good with me
sounds good to me too.every true israeli and every true westerner should help the real owners of south africa: the boers.and we need to save them from the genocide the schvartzas committing against them every day and every hour.

Sorry, but you sound like the Germans who almost wiped out an entire tribe in Namibia just because some dozens of them robbed some German and Dutch villages and raped the women. This is disgusting but does in no way make a genocide a legal or justified action.
read again my post.i didn't called for genocide of black people.i called to sdave the boers from the genocide that is being comitted against them bythe balcks of south africa (who by the way also love to murder other blacks-like rhodesian migrant workers).
Title: Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
Post by: Maimonides on June 09, 2010, 11:46:16 AM
Afrikaners have a history of anti-semitism and pure racism, which are 2 things that Judaism opposes.

Pictures from the funeral of Eugene Terreblanche

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/04/09/article-1264753-0911890E000005DC-534_634x478.jpg)

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/04/09/article-1264753-0911976F000005DC-325_634x421.jpg)

Afrikaners admired the Nazis during WWII

http://stmarys.ca/~wmills/course322/14bLater_natm.html (http://stmarys.ca/~wmills/course322/14bLater_natm.html)

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the racism of the Nazis too was easily assimilated into Afrikaner nationalism. Anti-Semitism was significant among Afrikaners; this was not unusual in most western societies in the late 19th and early 20th C. But it had become focused in South Africa. Afrikaner denunciations of capitalism in the inter-war period were strongly anti-Semitic. In political cartoons, the capitalists were often depicted as fat “Hoggenheimer”—a Jew.

It is true that whites in South Africa are suffering terrible oppression by blacks, but the only realistic solution for them is to LEAVE!

HaRav Meir Kahane, zecher tzadik livracha, stated that the difference between South Africa and Israel is that whites CAME to South Africa, while Jews RETURNED to Israel.
Title: Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
Post by: Ben m on June 09, 2010, 12:46:45 PM
actually this flag is only three seven with a shared base.it is to oppose the 666 (the number of the beast) it is had nothing to do with swastika.and by the way.mpost of the boers are rabid supporters of israel.
Title: Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
Post by: Hyades on June 09, 2010, 12:56:16 PM
Afrikaners have a history of anti-semitism and pure racism, which are 2 things that Judaism opposes.

Pictures from the funeral of Eugene Terreblanche

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/04/09/article-1264753-0911890E000005DC-534_634x478.jpg)

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/04/09/article-1264753-0911976F000005DC-325_634x421.jpg)

Afrikaners admired the Nazis during WWII

http://stmarys.ca/~wmills/course322/14bLater_natm.html (http://stmarys.ca/~wmills/course322/14bLater_natm.html)

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the racism of the Nazis too was easily assimilated into Afrikaner nationalism. Anti-Semitism was significant among Afrikaners; this was not unusual in most western societies in the late 19th and early 20th C. But it had become focused in South Africa. Afrikaner denunciations of capitalism in the inter-war period were strongly anti-Semitic. In political cartoons, the capitalists were often depicted as fat “Hoggenheimer”—a Jew.

It is true that whites in South Africa are suffering terrible oppression by blacks, but the only realistic solution for them is to LEAVE!

HaRav Meir Kahane, zecher tzadik livracha, stated that the difference between South Africa and Israel is that whites CAME to South Africa, while Jews RETURNED to Israel.


I agree so much with your post. And I also think that the whites were not urged to invade South Africa and put themselves in the position of the leading elite! They simply took away other people's land and discriminated and massacred them. This is not Jewish and it is the same thing as the Muslims who wiped most non-Muslims out and let the survivals pay Jizya for staying alive. You cannot point your fingers to people who kill whites if these whites imposed a terror Apartheid regime on them - in their own country. And NO Ben mCNazi: South Africa is NOT white. It is black land, where meny whites live (still as minority) along with Indians and others.
Title: Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
Post by: Ben m on June 09, 2010, 01:11:10 PM
Afrikaners have a history of anti-semitism and pure racism, which are 2 things that Judaism opposes.

Pictures from the funeral of Eugene Terreblanche

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/04/09/article-1264753-0911890E000005DC-534_634x478.jpg)

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/04/09/article-1264753-0911976F000005DC-325_634x421.jpg)

Afrikaners admired the Nazis during WWII

http://stmarys.ca/~wmills/course322/14bLater_natm.html (http://stmarys.ca/~wmills/course322/14bLater_natm.html)

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the racism of the Nazis too was easily assimilated into Afrikaner nationalism. Anti-Semitism was significant among Afrikaners; this was not unusual in most western societies in the late 19th and early 20th C. But it had become focused in South Africa. Afrikaner denunciations of capitalism in the inter-war period were strongly anti-Semitic. In political cartoons, the capitalists were often depicted as fat “Hoggenheimer”—a Jew.

It is true that whites in South Africa are suffering terrible oppression by blacks, but the only realistic solution for them is to LEAVE!

HaRav Meir Kahane, zecher tzadik livracha, stated that the difference between South Africa and Israel is that whites CAME to South Africa, while Jews RETURNED to Israel.


I agree so much with your post. And I also think that the whites were not urged to invade South Africa and put themselves in the position of the leading elite! They simply took away other people's land and discriminated and massacred them. This is not Jewish and it is the same thing as the Muslims who wiped most non-Muslims out and let the survivals pay Jizya for staying alive. You cannot point your fingers to people who kill whites if these whites imposed a terror Apartheid regime on them - in their own country. And NO Ben mCNazi: South Africa is NOT white. It is black land, where meny whites live (still as minority) along with Indians and others.
the african tribes in what is now called south africa didn't had the concept of land ownership'so you can't say the land was belong to them beacuse it is simply false.and chaim also support helping south african whites.he said that in response of one of my firtst questions in the ask jtf program.
Title: Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
Post by: Hyades on June 09, 2010, 01:54:50 PM
Afrikaners have a history of anti-semitism and pure racism, which are 2 things that Judaism opposes.

Pictures from the funeral of Eugene Terreblanche

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/04/09/article-1264753-0911890E000005DC-534_634x478.jpg)

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/04/09/article-1264753-0911976F000005DC-325_634x421.jpg)

Afrikaners admired the Nazis during WWII

http://stmarys.ca/~wmills/course322/14bLater_natm.html (http://stmarys.ca/~wmills/course322/14bLater_natm.html)

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the racism of the Nazis too was easily assimilated into Afrikaner nationalism. Anti-Semitism was significant among Afrikaners; this was not unusual in most western societies in the late 19th and early 20th C. But it had become focused in South Africa. Afrikaner denunciations of capitalism in the inter-war period were strongly anti-Semitic. In political cartoons, the capitalists were often depicted as fat “Hoggenheimer”—a Jew.

It is true that whites in South Africa are suffering terrible oppression by blacks, but the only realistic solution for them is to LEAVE!

HaRav Meir Kahane, zecher tzadik livracha, stated that the difference between South Africa and Israel is that whites CAME to South Africa, while Jews RETURNED to Israel.


I agree so much with your post. And I also think that the whites were not urged to invade South Africa and put themselves in the position of the leading elite! They simply took away other people's land and discriminated and massacred them. This is not Jewish and it is the same thing as the Muslims who wiped most non-Muslims out and let the survivals pay Jizya for staying alive. You cannot point your fingers to people who kill whites if these whites imposed a terror Apartheid regime on them - in their own country. And NO Ben mCNazi: South Africa is NOT white. It is black land, where meny whites live (still as minority) along with Indians and others.
the african tribes in what is now called south africa didn't had the concept of land ownership'so you can't say the land was belong to them beacuse it is simply false.and chaim also support helping south african whites.he said that in response of one of my firtst questions in the ask jtf program.

Ben I support whites, that are attacked by blacks because of pure hatred. But I surely do NOT stand with Apartheid promoters who are killed for their racist and Nazi views.
Title: Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
Post by: Ben m on June 09, 2010, 01:59:13 PM
Afrikaners have a history of anti-semitism and pure racism, which are 2 things that Judaism opposes.

Pictures from the funeral of Eugene Terreblanche

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/04/09/article-1264753-0911890E000005DC-534_634x478.jpg)

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/04/09/article-1264753-0911976F000005DC-325_634x421.jpg)

Afrikaners admired the Nazis during WWII

http://stmarys.ca/~wmills/course322/14bLater_natm.html (http://stmarys.ca/~wmills/course322/14bLater_natm.html)

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the racism of the Nazis too was easily assimilated into Afrikaner nationalism. Anti-Semitism was significant among Afrikaners; this was not unusual in most western societies in the late 19th and early 20th C. But it had become focused in South Africa. Afrikaner denunciations of capitalism in the inter-war period were strongly anti-Semitic. In political cartoons, the capitalists were often depicted as fat “Hoggenheimer”—a Jew.

It is true that whites in South Africa are suffering terrible oppression by blacks, but the only realistic solution for them is to LEAVE!

HaRav Meir Kahane, zecher tzadik livracha, stated that the difference between South Africa and Israel is that whites CAME to South Africa, while Jews RETURNED to Israel.


I agree so much with your post. And I also think that the whites were not urged to invade South Africa and put themselves in the position of the leading elite! They simply took away other people's land and discriminated and massacred them. This is not Jewish and it is the same thing as the Muslims who wiped most non-Muslims out and let the survivals pay Jizya for staying alive. You cannot point your fingers to people who kill whites if these whites imposed a terror Apartheid regime on them - in their own country. And NO Ben mCNazi: South Africa is NOT white. It is black land, where meny whites live (still as minority) along with Indians and others.
the african tribes in what is now called south africa didn't had the concept of land ownership'so you can't say the land was belong to them beacuse it is simply false.and chaim also support helping south african whites.he said that in response of one of my firtst questions in the ask jtf program.

Ben I support whites, that are attacked by blacks because of pure hatred. But I surely do NOT stand with Apartheid promoters who are killed for their racist and Nazi views.
hydes,in case you didn't noticed the aphrtheid regime ended in 1994.this n-word animals are killing 90 whites every day.this is look to you like a normal statistical data? i don't think so.
Title: Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
Post by: Hyades on June 09, 2010, 02:07:56 PM
The Apartheid regime ended, yes. But the ideology continues very well alive! Nazi Germany doesn't exist either, but worldwide you can still find evil Nazis!
Title: Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
Post by: Rubystars on June 09, 2010, 02:17:57 PM
Ben I think you're fooling yourself if you think that flag has nothing to do with the swastika. The swastika has many, many variants.
Title: Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
Post by: Maimonides on June 09, 2010, 02:31:12 PM
actually this flag is only three seven with a shared base.it is to oppose the 666 (the number of the beast) it is had nothing to do with swastika.and by the way.mpost of the boers are rabid supporters of israel.

Either they are anti-semites or incredibly STUPID to choose a flag that looks identical to the Nazis, yimach shmo ve-zichro. In either case Jews should not align themselves with people who are anti-semites or who are too stupid to know they are using anti-semitic symbols.
Title: Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on June 09, 2010, 02:49:49 PM
actually this flag is only three seven with a shared base.it is to oppose the 666 (the number of the beast) it is had nothing to do with swastika.and by the way.mpost of the boers are rabid supporters of israel.

I guess you didn't notice the saluting.   

:::D   Wait, actually....   :'(
Title: Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
Post by: Hyades on June 09, 2010, 02:50:41 PM
Ben I think you're fooling yourself if you think that flag has nothing to do with the swastika. The swastika has many, many variants.

It HAS to do with the Swastika. And the rest of the flag design is a good proof! Red flag, white circle and a black Swastika-like symbol. And the Nazi salute. This is not just coincidence, this porpose!
Title: Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
Post by: JewishAmericanPatriot on June 09, 2010, 02:54:54 PM
I can't say anything regarding terreblanche's organization since I am not familiar with them. But every white South African I have ever met was very pro-Jewish. Many of the White South Africans I know are Jews, in fact, but many others are not. And none are antisemitic.

Right now, Whites in SA are being slaughtered, raped, their body parts cut off and sold to be used in black magic rituals....and the world is silent. Paulette (Ashedina) has a lot of stuff on her blog about it, just go there and research it in her index:

http://themadjewess.wordpress.com

South Africa pre-1994 was very pro-Israel. We owe it to them to publicize their plight now.
Title: Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
Post by: Rubystars on June 09, 2010, 03:39:15 PM
Ben I think you're fooling yourself if you think that flag has nothing to do with the swastika. The swastika has many, many variants.

It HAS to do with the Swastika. And the rest of the flag design is a good proof! Red flag, white circle and a black Swastika-like symbol. And the Nazi salute. This is not just coincidence, this porpose!


Yes exactly, Ben is very mistaken.


But every white South African I have ever met was very pro-Jewish. Many of the White South Africans I know are Jews, in fact, but many others are not. And none are antisemitic.

That's great :) I hope that one day the good white South Africans can take their country back and run it properly once again.
Title: Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
Post by: White Israelite on June 09, 2010, 03:53:27 PM
Afrikaners have a history of anti-semitism and pure racism, which are 2 things that Judaism opposes.

Pictures from the funeral of Eugene Terreblanche

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/04/09/article-1264753-0911890E000005DC-534_634x478.jpg)

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/04/09/article-1264753-0911976F000005DC-325_634x421.jpg)

Afrikaners admired the Nazis during WWII

http://stmarys.ca/~wmills/course322/14bLater_natm.html (http://stmarys.ca/~wmills/course322/14bLater_natm.html)

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the racism of the Nazis too was easily assimilated into Afrikaner nationalism. Anti-Semitism was significant among Afrikaners; this was not unusual in most western societies in the late 19th and early 20th C. But it had become focused in South Africa. Afrikaner denunciations of capitalism in the inter-war period were strongly anti-Semitic. In political cartoons, the capitalists were often depicted as fat “Hoggenheimer”—a Jew.

It is true that whites in South Africa are suffering terrible oppression by blacks, but the only realistic solution for them is to LEAVE!

HaRav Meir Kahane, zecher tzadik livracha, stated that the difference between South Africa and Israel is that whites CAME to South Africa, while Jews RETURNED to Israel.


I agree so much with your post. And I also think that the whites were not urged to invade South Africa and put themselves in the position of the leading elite! They simply took away other people's land and discriminated and massacred them. This is not Jewish and it is the same thing as the Muslims who wiped most non-Muslims out and let the survivals pay Jizya for staying alive. You cannot point your fingers to people who kill whites if these whites imposed a terror Apartheid regime on them - in their own country. And NO Ben mCNazi: South Africa is NOT white. It is black land, where meny whites live (still as minority) along with Indians and others.

So where should these whites go then? When they tried to flee South Africa, the ANC confiscated their bank accounts and no countries would accept their passports. South Africa was founded very similar like America but the whites never became a majority. There are still many countries who refuse to allow South African whites into their countries.
Title: Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
Post by: Hyades on June 09, 2010, 04:12:04 PM
Afrikaners have a history of anti-semitism and pure racism, which are 2 things that Judaism opposes.

Pictures from the funeral of Eugene Terreblanche

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/04/09/article-1264753-0911890E000005DC-534_634x478.jpg)

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/04/09/article-1264753-0911976F000005DC-325_634x421.jpg)

Afrikaners admired the Nazis during WWII

http://stmarys.ca/~wmills/course322/14bLater_natm.html (http://stmarys.ca/~wmills/course322/14bLater_natm.html)

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the racism of the Nazis too was easily assimilated into Afrikaner nationalism. Anti-Semitism was significant among Afrikaners; this was not unusual in most western societies in the late 19th and early 20th C. But it had become focused in South Africa. Afrikaner denunciations of capitalism in the inter-war period were strongly anti-Semitic. In political cartoons, the capitalists were often depicted as fat “Hoggenheimer”—a Jew.

It is true that whites in South Africa are suffering terrible oppression by blacks, but the only realistic solution for them is to LEAVE!

HaRav Meir Kahane, zecher tzadik livracha, stated that the difference between South Africa and Israel is that whites CAME to South Africa, while Jews RETURNED to Israel.


I agree so much with your post. And I also think that the whites were not urged to invade South Africa and put themselves in the position of the leading elite! They simply took away other people's land and discriminated and massacred them. This is not Jewish and it is the same thing as the Muslims who wiped most non-Muslims out and let the survivals pay Jizya for staying alive. You cannot point your fingers to people who kill whites if these whites imposed a terror Apartheid regime on them - in their own country. And NO Ben mCNazi: South Africa is NOT white. It is black land, where meny whites live (still as minority) along with Indians and others.

So where should these whites go then? When they tried to flee South Africa, the ANC confiscated their bank accounts and no countries would accept their passports. South Africa was founded very similar like America but the whites never became a majority. There are still many countries who refuse to allow South African whites into their countries.

Now that they are there and can no longer be considered Europeans, I suggest, they stay there. But these Nazis shown in the photo should get along with the black majority, forget the old Apartheid drek and try to live in peace with everyone. Even though Apartheid was abolished, whites are 1st class people, Indians and Asians are 2nd class and the blacks are still 3rd class, often living under horrible conditions.
No white should leave if he doesn't want. But do you think they should go on like that? Whites killing blacks, blacks killing whites, Muslims killing Hindus etc.? South Africa is full of racial and religious hatred. And this should stop. So we should NOT promote mass-killings of black people. This will cause more bloodshed.
Title: Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
Post by: JewishAmericanPatriot on June 09, 2010, 04:48:37 PM
Hyades: White South Afrikaners who remain in SA are being MURDERED. Did you hear of the White Afrikaner teenage girl who was home sick with an earache, and blacks broke in, raped her, and cut her arms off to sell on the SA black market (blacks in SA use human body parts as items in their black magic rituals)?

What's more, the law in the black-ruled SA requires that 75% of all available jobs be given only to blacks, and the remaining 25% MAY be given to Whites. This is why so many Whites in SA are now unemployed and desperately poor.

In addition, White-owned farms are being confiscated by the black govt and given to blacks. the same is going on in Rhodesia ("Zimbabwe").

Afrikaners were allies of Israel under the White regime, pre-1994. Those who support Israel should now return the favor and help them. If we are going to refuse to come to the aid of those who helped us, then we don't deserve their help when we need it. As a Jew I believe in helping those who have helped me and mine.
Title: Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
Post by: Rubystars on June 09, 2010, 05:02:32 PM
There was nothing wrong with Apartheid. It's a very smart idea. We should have kept segregation in the USA too.
Title: Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
Post by: JewishAmericanPatriot on June 09, 2010, 05:13:44 PM
There was nothing wrong with Apartheid. It's a very smart idea. We should have kept segregation in the USA too.

I agree completely. In fact my daughters and I were discussing this very issue earlier today. I'm old enough to remember the tail-end of "how things used to be", and the black crime rate was MUCH lower, as was the black promiscuity rate.

We can thank LBJ and his "Great Society" for all the drek we see going on now! He wanted to lock in the black vote for decades to come by making them financially dependent on the government. Looks like it worked! Now we have 4 generations on welfare, and of course they will keep voting for whoever gives them the handouts.

The ancient Romans learned the same technique, which is why they gave panem et circenses (bread and circuses) to the idle mobs who had moved into Rome. As long as they kept them fed and entertained (and didn't make them work), they got their votes.

Three groups should never have gotten the right to vote in this country: blacks, women and people living on welfare. Blacks and women, because most tend to vote with their emotions, and welfare people, because its not right that those sponging off the taxpayers should have any say in what happens to the money of hard-working taxpayers.

(BTW I am a woman).
Title: Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
Post by: Ari Ben-Canaan on June 09, 2010, 05:27:39 PM
Oy vey what meshuganah. :'(
Title: Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
Post by: muman613 on June 09, 2010, 05:36:26 PM
Oy vey what meshuganah. :'(

I agree
Title: Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
Post by: JewishAmericanPatriot on June 09, 2010, 05:50:04 PM
Oy vey what meshuganah. :'(

Who or what do you refer to?
Title: Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
Post by: muman613 on June 09, 2010, 05:54:09 PM
Oy vey what meshuganah. :'(

I agree


I refer to JewishAmericanPatriots comment that women should not be allowed to vote... I think that if we are expecting to live in a democracy we should allow all who are governed to vote. We should not created a government imposed class system {citizens vs sub-citizens}... This kind of arrangement was discussed in Orwells novel 1984 where there were three government imposed classes, the Inner party, the Outer party, and the Proles...

In a democracy it is required that all who are governed get to vote. Denying people the right to vote in a democracy is simply hypocrisy..
Title: Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
Post by: Rubystars on June 09, 2010, 05:55:52 PM
I agree completely. In fact my daughters and I were discussing this very issue earlier today. I'm old enough to remember the tail-end of "how things used to be", and the black crime rate was MUCH lower, as was the black promiscuity rate.

Yes I think it was better for everyone concerned when blacks were kept separate.

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We can thank LBJ and his "Great Society" for all the drek we see going on now! He wanted to lock in the black vote for decades to come by making them financially dependent on the government. Looks like it worked! Now we have 4 generations on welfare, and of course they will keep voting for whoever gives them the handouts.

It's really disgusting. I never forget that the money they are taking is money earned by hard working Americans and stolen to give to them.

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The ancient Romans learned the same technique, which is why they gave panem et circenses (bread and circuses) to the idle mobs who had moved into Rome. As long as they kept them fed and entertained (and didn't make them work), they got their votes.

I agree with you on welfare recipients not being able to vote but I disagree about women. Women must be able to vote in order to get laws passed to help women that protect them to some degree from domestic abuse, etc. It also makes no sense to contribute to society and make up more than half of society but to have no say in who runs that society.

If blacks weren't being manipulated by the socialists I'm not sure how they would end up voting. I do think you should at least be able to read to be able to vote though and many blacks are functionally illiterate.
Title: Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
Post by: JewishAmericanPatriot on June 09, 2010, 06:24:40 PM
The reason I said what I did about women (even though I am a woman myself) is because most women tend to vote with their emotions, just like most blacks do. It was young, white, easily impressionable women who voted in large numbers for Obama, and who usually vote in large numbers for Democrats.

My mom used to say that giving women the right to vote in many cases simply gave the woman's husband a second vote, since spouses usually vote the same way. And if they don't vote the same way, they just cancel each others' votes out.
Title: Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
Post by: New Yorker on June 09, 2010, 06:34:24 PM
actually this flag is only three seven with a shared base.it is to oppose the 666 (the number of the beast) it is had nothing to do with swastika.and by the way.mpost of the boers are rabid supporters of israel.

Hmmm, I'd believe you if that flag in the photo wasn't also seen with a bunch of people giving the Nazi salute.
Title: Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
Post by: Rubystars on June 09, 2010, 06:48:57 PM
The reason I said what I did about women (even though I am a woman myself) is because most women tend to vote with their emotions, just like most blacks do. It was young, white, easily impressionable women who voted in large numbers for Obama, and who usually vote in large numbers for Democrats.

My mom used to say that giving women the right to vote in many cases simply gave the woman's husband a second vote, since spouses usually vote the same way. And if they don't vote the same way, they just cancel each others' votes out.

Women outnumber men, so it really doesn't add up, because there are not equal numbers of men and women. Plus I think men can be emotionally manipulated as well, although in different ways. Many men in Nazi Germany had their nationalistic feelings manipulated and they became Nazis.

A long time ago it made more sense than it does today not to allow women to vote because women had a very different domain than men. They weren't , to a large degree, involved in politics or public life. Their domain was the home, the family business, raising children, etc. There is nothing wrong with that lifestyle, but women today are also very involved in public life and no matter what lifestyle they lead, they are directly affected by good or bad decisions just as the men are.

I will not let someone take my rights away to have a say in what goes on in this country without a fight. 
Title: Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
Post by: JewishAmericanPatriot on June 09, 2010, 07:09:15 PM
The reason I said what I did about women (even though I am a woman myself) is because most women tend to vote with their emotions, just like most blacks do. It was young, white, easily impressionable women who voted in large numbers for Obama, and who usually vote in large numbers for Democrats.

My mom used to say that giving women the right to vote in many cases simply gave the woman's husband a second vote, since spouses usually vote the same way. And if they don't vote the same way, they just cancel each others' votes out.

Women outnumber men, so it really doesn't add up, because there are not equal numbers of men and women. Plus I think men can be emotionally manipulated as well, although in different ways. Many men in Nazi Germany had their nationalistic feelings manipulated and they became Nazis.

A long time ago it made more sense than it does today not to allow women to vote because women had a very different domain than men. They weren't , to a large degree, involved in politics or public life. Their domain was the home, the family business, raising children, etc. There is nothing wrong with that lifestyle, but women today are also very involved in public life and no matter what lifestyle they lead, they are directly affected by good or bad decisions just as the men are.

I will not let someone take my rights away to have a say in what goes on in this country without a fight. 

Oh, I agree about women like us being able to vote in THIS day and age! The main reason I even got involved in politics years ago, and why I vote, is to balance out one of the liberal, braindead females! :)

Years ago, the way I see it, (conservative) women didn't need to vote because the country wasn't as screwed up as it is now. My grandmother was married the year women got the right to vote (1920), yet she never voted because (she said) that voting "is just for rich medigan (non-Italian; WASP) women with nothing better to do" (grandmom disliked suffraggettes; she said they wanted "the right to work outside the home", meanwhile, Italian immigrant women like her were working three jobs already!)
Title: Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
Post by: Ari Ben-Canaan on June 09, 2010, 07:10:17 PM
Oy vey what meshuganah. :'(

Who or what do you refer to?

I'm thinking of how chaotic and crazy South Africa is.  Someone said this about the whites there, "When they tried to flee South Africa, the ANC confiscated their bank accounts and no countries would accept their passports. ".  I know if I lived in SA I would simply want to leave [I don't understand why anyone not from Africa would want to live there in the 1st place], but it seems such action is prevented by the powers that be.  I think violence would be my course of action, I know I may not succeed in freeing myself, but I would make the consumption of my flesh and efforts come at such a high cost of my enemies blood that most would wince at the mere thought of paying the price tag on my particular demographic. -- I'd hate to be in that situation, I really don't know what I would have to do or what options I would have with my life; how could my life have meaning or quality?  Maccabee up and pray for the best.
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I don't know about taking away the ability to vote from some people in this country.  It's worth a thought, going back to how the founders of this country felt; I am not the son of a prophet, I can't see how things would turn out.  It may not be the thing to do, but it is a topic that should surely be discussed freely [it should not be taboo].

Something I do think about a lot of the time is this: if there is "no taxation with out representation" should there also be "no representation without taxation"?  Should people who do not contribute to the financial workings of the country have power over those that do?  50% of this country pays taxes, the other half does not.

[its a bit of a tangent, sorry]  Should the derelicts who sit outside my apartment in great numbers sipping giant cans of malt liquor each day starting at noon while smoking cigarettes, marijuana and other drugs and eating a diet of junk food while buying expensive clothes and sneakers while not working for a living have equal say how the government operates and what its goals are as a person who works hard to get a solid education seeking the opportunity to give back to society and be productive hoping to carve a notch out of life for them and their families?  Why should people who take care of their health pay health care for people like I describe above?  Why should a woman who has 5 children out of wedlock who manipulates the altruism which exists in many decent people be able to live like a parasite off people who plan a family which will consist of less members based upon what is affordable to them [why should a working person's family be smaller than a mooch?]?

Does "lazy" deserve equal say to "hard working"?  

I don't know the answers to these questions.

Sometimes I feel that people who give nothing to society should get nothing from society, it seems such a simply and basic axiom at times.  

I often find myself disliking democracy.  When I move to Israel, God willing, it is my hope that a Sanhedrin of "Solomonic" wisdom comes to fruit and replaces mob rule [I believe in G-d, Torah, Tanakh, and Talmud; I trust one day my hope will be fulfilled] [I always enjoy watching clips of Rabbi Kahane saying, "Judaism does not equal Thomas Jefferson".]. -- In America, at times, I think I would be happy to give up my right to vote if it canceled two derelict votes.

I could go on, but I think I've rambled far too long as it is.
Title: Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
Post by: Ben m on June 10, 2010, 07:14:57 AM
guys what is this talking about the right to vote.the united states constitution is very clear: only wfree white men should be able to vote.and after some amendments women are also entitled to vote so only free whites should be able to vote.
Title: Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on June 10, 2010, 07:26:13 AM
guys what is this talking about the right to vote.the united states constitution is very clear: only wfree white men should be able to vote.and after some amendments women are also entitled to vote so only free whites should be able to vote.

The Constitution includes its amendments.   The America authors of the Constitution included that as part of the Constitution - the possibility for amendments.

But what does the American constitution have to do with South Africa?
Title: Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
Post by: Ben m on June 10, 2010, 07:27:09 AM
guys what is this talking about the right to vote.the united states constitution is very clear: only wfree white men should be able to vote.and after some amendments women are also entitled to vote so only free whites should be able to vote.

The Constitution includes its amendments.   The America authors of the Constitution included that as part of the Constitution - the possibility for amendments.

But what does the American constitution have to do with South Africa?
we changed the subject a ling time ago to the right of vote in the us.
Title: Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on June 10, 2010, 07:33:45 AM
guys what is this talking about the right to vote.the united states constitution is very clear: only wfree white men should be able to vote.and after some amendments women are also entitled to vote so only free whites should be able to vote.

The Constitution includes its amendments.   The America authors of the Constitution included that as part of the Constitution - the possibility for amendments.

But what does the American constitution have to do with South Africa?
we changed the subject a ling time ago to the right of vote in the us.

Well, the amendments are part of the document.
Title: Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
Post by: Ben m on June 10, 2010, 07:42:54 AM
guys what is this talking about the right to vote.the united states constitution is very clear: only wfree white men should be able to vote.and after some amendments women are also entitled to vote so only free whites should be able to vote.

The Constitution includes its amendments.   The America authors of the Constitution included that as part of the Constitution - the possibility for amendments.

But what does the American constitution have to do with South Africa?
we changed the subject a ling time ago to the right of vote in the us.

Well, the amendments are part of the document.
yes but the will of the founders is very clear in the issue.
Title: Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
Post by: JewishAmericanPatriot on June 10, 2010, 08:01:58 AM
White Afrikaners are hated by the ruling blacks, and are being murdered by them daily, and while some say they should "just leave", the problem is, other countries won't take them (I don't know why, but preference, at least in the US, is given to non-whites). There is a slim possibility that they may be able to go to Holland since they are of Dutch ancestry way back in their lineage, but even that is iffy.

They can come to the US only if they have a relative here or if someone sponsors them.

Does any of this sound even remotely familiar to the  German Jewish situation during WW2?
Title: Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
Post by: Ben m on June 10, 2010, 08:04:45 AM
White Afrikaners are hated by the ruling blacks, and are being murdered by them daily, and while some say they should "just leave", the problem is, other countries won't take them (I don't know why, but preference, at least in the US, is given to non-whites). There is a slim possibility that they may be able to go to Holland since they are of Dutch ancestry way back in their lineage, but even that is iffy.

They can come to the US only if they have a relative here or if someone sponsors them.

Does any of this sound even remotely familiar to the  German Jewish situation during WW2?
yes'and not just remotley.we need should fight this schvartza plague whenever we found one.
Title: Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
Post by: JewishAmericanPatriot on June 10, 2010, 08:08:10 AM
White Afrikaners are hated by the ruling blacks, and are being murdered by them daily, and while some say they should "just leave", the problem is, other countries won't take them (I don't know why, but preference, at least in the US, is given to non-whites). There is a slim possibility that they may be able to go to Holland since they are of Dutch ancestry way back in their lineage, but even that is iffy.

They can come to the US only if they have a relative here or if someone sponsors them.

Does any of this sound even remotely familiar to the  German Jewish situation during WW2?
yes'and not just remotley.we need should fight this schvartza plague whenever we found one.

I agree. And I do.

One FACT that cannot be ignored: whenever whites are removed from the equation, blacks descend into savagery. This happened in Haiti in 1804, it happened in Rhodesia/Zimbabwe after 1980, and has been happening in South Africa since 1994. It is a pattern that repeats itself throughout history.

This is why, if I could go back in history, I would implore whites to AVOID the entire continent of Africa. Do not go there for ANY reason. With all due respect to our Christian friends, I fear that Christian missionaries were probably partly to blame for the black plague we have. They wanted to save the souls of the black Africans, and so as whites began colonizing those areas, missionaries went in, too.

In fact one justification for slavery in the US South was the idea that the slaves were better off here than in Africa because they had been given Christianity.
Title: Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
Post by: Ben m on June 10, 2010, 08:13:08 AM
White Afrikaners are hated by the ruling blacks, and are being murdered by them daily, and while some say they should "just leave", the problem is, other countries won't take them (I don't know why, but preference, at least in the US, is given to non-whites). There is a slim possibility that they may be able to go to Holland since they are of Dutch ancestry way back in their lineage, but even that is iffy.

They can come to the US only if they have a relative here or if someone sponsors them.

Does any of this sound even remotely familiar to the  German Jewish situation during WW2?
yes'and not just remotley.we need should fight this schvartza plague whenever we found one.

I agree. And I do.

One FACT that cannot be ignored: whenever whites are removed from the equation, blacks descend into savagery. This happened in Haiti in 1804, it happened in Rhodesia/Zimbabwe after 1980, and has been happening in South Africa since 1994. It is a pattern that repeats itself throughout history.

This is why, if I could go back in history, I would implore whites to AVOID the entire continent of Africa. Do not go there for ANY reason. With all due respect to our Christian friends, I fear that Christian missionaries were probably partly to blame for the black plague we have. They wanted to save the souls of the black Africans, and so as whites began colonizing those areas, missionaries went in, too.

In fact one justification for slavery in the US South was the idea that the slaves were better off here than in Africa because they had been given Christianity.
i agree.if I will have the abillity to go back in time i would go the the 1970s and implore the south african government to test the nuclear weapons on cairo or kinshasa.
Title: Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
Post by: Rightist2 on June 13, 2010, 12:05:36 PM

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i agree.if I will have the abillity to go back in time i would go the the 1970s and implore the south african government to test the nuclear weapons on cairo or kinshasa.
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Kinshasa is the capital of Congo (then called Zaire) and was led by Mobutu Sese Seko at that time. His government was not anti-Apartheid and had allied with South Africa against communism. So using a nuclear weapon against an allied city would not be a wise move. Other blacks allied with South Africa were the UNITA rebel movement in Angola led by Jonas Savimbi and Frelimo rebel movement in Mozambique. Also the Zulu movment Inkatha in South Africa was allied with the whites (their party is pro-Israel and their leader Zulu Chief Mangosuthu Buthelezi has visited Israel before to express total support for the Jewish state). Had the white South Africans not been so irrationally greedy and granted the Zulus the deepwater port of Richards Bay for their Kwazulu homeland (rather than a polka dot state), the current dire situation in South Africa would not exist.

Finally I think its better to totally seperate and have your own homeland than have supremacy over others. I believe this applies to South Africa and USA. Segregation in both countries gave way to Integration and all the negro problems that resulted. Seperation would have been far better and in 2010 there is no point reminiscing about the failed policy of segregation and looking at it with rose tinted glasses. This is why Israel should do what Rabbi Meir Kahane said and expel all Arabs. Israel should also re-establish biblical Israel and expel the mussie rats from the Nile to the Euphrates too  :dance:
Title: Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
Post by: Voyager on June 13, 2010, 02:55:41 PM
I have been to South Africa and it is a scary place. Recently I read some interesting information.
These numbers may be a little off but they show the trend. Between 1979 and 1994 @7000 blacks were killed
in South Africa. Many were blacks killed by other blacks in internecine disputes as well as those killed, often in combat with government forces. Now South Africa experiences 20,000+ murders a year. 1 in 2 women can expect to raped at least once in her life (rape insurance is available!). Nelson Mandella was imprisoned for a foiled attempt to blow up a train station at rush hour in 1964. A fact that I never saw mentioned in the main stream US media.

The issue is not that some white South Africans may be racists. Living under the conditions they they currently endure,
why is that somehow surprising? The issue is a population of white people is being exterminated and this horrendous situation is being ignored by western media. Occasionally, a story may surface in the British press, but it is rare and usually
involves a British victim.

So just remember, today it is South Africa where a non white population which utilizes grievances from the past to justify
the mass murder of the former dominant white population. Might this be the late great United States of America
at some future date? Give it some thought and do not let flags and right arm salutes cloud your assessment of what is taking place now and what could take place in the future.
Title: Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
Post by: AsheDina on June 13, 2010, 03:41:36 PM
I'm glad that someone is speaking up for the whites in South Africa.

90 a day are murdered. :'(
Title: Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
Post by: Rightist2 on June 13, 2010, 04:04:53 PM
Just one thing. The AWB is a neo-Nazi movement. That is just one Afrikaaner organisation. There are many Right-wing Afrikaans organisations who have nothing to do with Nazis. For example the Orania movement. They are white speratists who are trying to create an all white homeland in the west of South Africa. Soc an we please stop demonising all Afrikaaners as AWB neo-Nazis? Thanks.
Title: Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
Post by: Ben m on June 14, 2010, 08:08:59 AM
I'm glad that someone is speaking up for the whites in South Africa.

90 a day are murdered. :'(
maybe even more.people are probably afraid to inform the police beacuse of the racist anc government. I HATE ANC!
Title: Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
Post by: karolzsx on April 07, 2012, 02:04:26 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6f4f__lxOkA
Title: Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
Post by: USAReturn2GodNow1776 on April 07, 2012, 06:58:45 AM
South Africa is not black land or white land. It is just land. To call it black or white land is racist. The fact is, most of the black people living in South Africa descend from people who moved there after the Dutch settled there in the 1600s. They were willing to come and live and work under the aparthood because it was preferable to living in the conditions of the places they came from.
Title: Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
Post by: Rubystars on April 07, 2012, 07:18:42 AM
Bringing up a 2 year old thread is trollish.