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Title: Truthfull question for orthodox Jews
Post by: mord on February 08, 2007, 02:51:17 PM
If you were to marry either one of 2 women you liked one was a Othodox Black Jew the other a practicing Christian who went to church daily which would you marry? Me i would not think twice i would marry an orthodox Black woman.There would be much to many problems marrying a white practicing Christian
Title: Re: Truthfull question for orthodox Jews
Post by: TorahZionist on February 08, 2007, 03:32:57 PM
Anyone who will marry an xtian instead of a Jew, no matter what race, is not an Orthodox Jew.
Title: Re: Truthfull question for orthodox Jews
Post by: mord on February 08, 2007, 04:55:50 PM
Anyone who will marry an xtian instead of a Jew, no matter what race, is not an Orthodox Jew.
TRUE
Title: Re: Truthfull question for orthodox Jews
Post by: Fruit of thy loins on February 08, 2007, 05:24:10 PM
Gosh what an interesting choice.  'Not marrying at all' could be a serious option here.  Virgins have a special place in G-d's heart.
Title: Re: Truthfull question for orthodox Jews
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on February 09, 2007, 01:48:48 AM
I would never support vows between people who have diametrically different relationships with God.
Title: Re: Truthfull question for orthodox Jews
Post by: mikedrews on April 09, 2007, 04:42:59 PM
hmm thats a tough question. how hot are they, i mean if you were to scale them on 1 to 10, where would they be? does the black chick have a ghetto booty or is she flat assed? i mean whats the point of goin with a black girl if she doesnt have that nice round bootay. and the christian girl... is she really into it? or does she go to church out of habit? these are important things to consider...
Title: Re: Truthfull question for orthodox Jews
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on April 09, 2007, 10:01:55 PM
hmm thats a tough question. how hot are they, i mean if you were to scale them on 1 to 10, where would they be? does the black chick have a ghetto booty or is she flat assed? i mean whats the point of goin with a black girl if she doesnt have that nice round bootay. and the christian girl... is she really into it? or does she go to church out of habit? these are important things to consider...
You are a moron. The crap coming out of your stinking anus-mouth makes FOTL look like an absolute genius.
Title: Re: Truthfull question for orthodox Jews
Post by: nessuno on April 10, 2007, 05:14:06 PM
hmm thats a tough question. how hot are they, i mean if you were to scale them on 1 to 10, where would they be? does the black chick have a ghetto booty or is she flat assed? i mean whats the point of goin with a black girl if she doesnt have that nice round bootay. and the christian girl... is she really into it? or does she go to church out of habit? these are important things to consider...
You are a moron. The crap coming out of your stinking anus-mouth makes FOTL look like an absolute genius.
I was thinking the very same thing -  ;D
Title: Re: Truthfull question for orthodox Jews
Post by: ftf on April 11, 2007, 09:03:15 PM
Reading this topic, not trying to be offensive or anything, but I think that Yacov's post sounds like something you might hear from FOTL...
Title: Re: Truthfull question for orthodox Jews
Post by: Fruit of thy loins on April 12, 2007, 05:25:02 AM
Except he says that he would be with a black woman if no white woman would want him. I don't have a double standard. I think if Fruit doesn't want white women to be with black men, then he should set an example and not be with black women. But I don't think it is wrong if a white Jew and black Jew got married. I just don't understand how they would be attracted to each other because it's natural for people to be attracted to their own race. Just like I'm not attracted to blacks, I think it's natural for blacks to be attracted only to other blacks.



I have never been with a black woman and don't intend to be.  The thought of reproducing by one is a thought I've explored and decided was distinctly unpleasant.  But I see plenty of young whites going around with black friends.  People aren't looking to my example.  :(  I would rather that blacks simply didn't exist, they are a burden on the world.  The only problem is, China would probably move to quickly colonize Africa.  If China got hold of that continent with its ample resources then I think China would rule the world for a thousand years unquestioned. 
Title: Re: Truthfull question for orthodox Jews
Post by: RationalThought110 on April 12, 2007, 10:36:01 AM
If you were to marry either one of 2 women you liked one was a Othodox Black Jew the other a practicing Christian who went to church daily which would you marry? Me i would not think twice i would marry an orthodox Black woman.There would be much to many problems marrying a white practicing Christian


A match for Chaim: http://www.nydailynews.com/boroughs/2007/03/21/2007-03-21_maybe_god_has_a_purpose_for_me_here.html

If Chaim and Bizu were to marry, wouldn't Israel have to allow him him residence since she has Israeli citizenship?

Her skin is a light, black tone so it's like as if she had a tan. 

I think Chaim could be the person to get her to want to marry.

She and any of the other Ethiopian Jews that she brought with her to the US need to return back to Israel before they get corrupted by the "Black Culture." 
Title: Re: Truthfull question for orthodox Jews
Post by: Nic Brookes on April 14, 2007, 07:42:18 PM
I would rather that blacks simply didn't exist, they are a burden on the world

You also call white women racist for affirmative action. You are racist yourself from that comment. I dislike blacks as much as the next person, but you need to tread carefully with double standards like that.
Title: Re: Truthfull question for orthodox Jews
Post by: Fruit of thy loins on April 14, 2007, 08:25:25 PM
You also call white women racist for affirmative action. You are racist yourself from that comment. I dislike blacks as much as the next person, but you need to tread carefully with double standards like that.


You are right in saying that I do not adequately restrain my thoughts.  I have some issues with compliance to social norms.  I feel that things are currently so PC that it is sometimes okay to go to the opposite extreme even if just to annoy the PC crowd.
Title: Re: Truthfull question for orthodox Jews
Post by: HEBREWHONOR on April 14, 2007, 10:21:02 PM
first of all marriage of orthodox jews should be based of love

there's nothing wrong with a black jew , common , that is a wierd quastion

Go (i'm saying this in sake of parallelism , not actually telling u to go somewhere but israel) to stay in ethiopia for 2000 years and tell youre offsprings to retrun after such a long time , They will be black in skin!

all jews are jews , there is no difference , and i saw very nice looking ethiopyan jewish women , So , "tafsik levalbel ba moach" , as we say in hebrew hehehe


and even for the sake of the arguement , there are ugly white gentiles female's as there are good looking black gentile females (and vice versa), but u should marry neither (unless they bacame jewish) because youre jewish and suppose to marry only a jewish girl


Title: Re: Truthfull question for orthodox Jews
Post by: MarZutra on April 20, 2007, 12:19:28 AM
If you were to marry either one of 2 women you liked one was a Othodox Black Jew the other a practicing Christian who went to church daily which would you marry? Me i would not think twice i would marry an orthodox Black woman.There would be much to many problems marrying a white practicing Christian
Personally, I'd hold out until my ship came in.  From what I know from a racial difference usually brings along much baggage from the various applicable cultural differences and beliefs which are highly comparable to that of differing faith unions only with religious/cultural differences.  A good friend of mine who is black and married a white girl both of the same faith.  A few years later, the woman couldn't take the cultural differences, practices and personal beliefs held by my friend so she left.  But in the end, it would be a personal decision and very hard to make.  Perhaps, in many ways it would be much harder for an Orthodox Jew to marry a devout Christian aside from Torah Law pertaining to intermarriage, there would be immense friction whenever one wished to delve into deeper conversations which would probably lead to an argument...
Title: Re: Truthfull question for orthodox Jews
Post by: RationalThought110 on April 22, 2007, 07:50:44 AM
first of all marriage of orthodox jews should be based of love

there's nothing wrong with a black jew , common , that is a wierd quastion

Go (i'm saying this in sake of parallelism , not actually telling u to go somewhere but israel) to stay in ethiopia for 2000 years and tell youre offsprings to retrun after such a long time , They will be black in skin!

all jews are jews , there is no difference , and i saw very nice looking ethiopyan jewish women , So , "tafsik levalbel ba moach" , as we say in hebrew hehehe


and even for the sake of the arguement , there are ugly white gentiles female's as there are good looking black gentile females (and vice versa), but u should marry neither (unless they bacame jewish) because youre jewish and suppose to marry only a jewish girl





If you look at my earlier post in this thread, I posted about a Jewish woman who was born in Ethiopia. 


Did Jews in Ethiopia become Black because they intermarried or are there other factors?
Title: Re: Truthfull question for orthodox Jews
Post by: MarZutra on April 22, 2007, 08:21:39 AM
I believe that Ethiopian Jews are converts like many of the Christians there...  Today, the Western coast of Africa is still largely Islamic, Pagan and Christian......  with a Jew wandering about here and there...  This is what I read but I could be wrong...
Title: Re: Truthfull question for orthodox Jews
Post by: RationalThought110 on April 22, 2007, 09:03:36 AM
I believe that Ethiopian Jews are converts like many of the Christians there...  Today, the Western coast of Africa is still largely Islamic, Pagan and Christian......  with a Jew wandering about here and there...  This is what I read but I could be wrong...
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You mean the Jews from Ethiopia converted to Judaism?
Title: Re: Truthfull question for orthodox Jews
Post by: MarZutra on April 22, 2007, 09:16:34 AM
Yes, that is what I mean...
Title: Re: Truthfull question for orthodox Jews
Post by: MarZutra on May 15, 2007, 05:28:11 PM
i see a huge difference... big deal about the background of a person......... if u love the individual then who honestly cares  where they are from of origin.... only fanatics with cultural breeding can be averse to "mixing the melting pot" these people ... all due respect are separatists and its one reason why jews are so hated... stop dividing people into groups and lets stop writing people off and saying whats better a white Christian or a black jew cause honestly who cares ...... "love thy neighbor"   

You must not hold any appreciation for culture, ethnicity or heritage.  Is it not logical for like people to be with like people?  Amongst Jews, it is a totally different issue as one is Jewish no matter color but obviously a black Jew would be more comfortable with another black Jew as would white.  This is both logical as a black Jew should hold pride in both his Jewishness, respective culture and too his ethnic heritage no?  This entire idea of mixing of races, ethnicities and even now gender as being "progressive" is pure socialism.  This is the same sham sold to us a "diversity" and "multiculturalism"....aka...socialism.  There is nothing wrong whatsoever for a black to love his/her ethnicity and too logical for blacks to embrace their heritage and wish to extend this to his/her children....no?  That said, why is it all the sudden "racist" or some other shame label for a white to do the same?  In the end it comes down to individual choice and not some political/social agenda...
Title: Re: Truthfull question for orthodox Jews
Post by: Tzvi Ben Roshel1 on August 30, 2007, 09:33:29 PM
I would never like a black sexually so this wouldn't be an issue.



can you please clarify, I know you wouldnt marry a non-jew over a Jewish girl, but can you please state this so that no one else would think that what you were saying is that you would rather go for a christian white girl over a black Orthodox Jewish girl.

Personally if their were only 2 women, and I was seperated from society (ex- stuck in an island), I would rather be with the most unattractive But Jewish girl (to do the mitzva and have kids) then be with the hottest non-jewish girl and have no place in the world to come.
Title: Re: Truthfull question for orthodox Jews
Post by: MarZutra on August 30, 2007, 09:54:26 PM
Tzvi, what you say is correct.  I do believe what Yacov is saying is that he, being an Ashkenaz Jew, would prefer being with another of like rather than a black convert.  Of course a Jew being with a Jew is much preferable to a Jew with a gentile.  The problem as I see it is a product of the Socialist "multi-cultural" "embrace diversity" crowed.  Different cultures, religions and even races have, logically, things in common with one another in most instances.  A Sephardit Jew most often marries another Sephardit Jew and not an Ashkenaz for example.  Perhaps Yacov simply doesn't find Black women attractive? I, in all honesty, don't know.  I much prefer a Jew over a gentile as a gentile much prefer a gentile over a Jew.  I hope this helps... :)
Title: Re: Truthfull question for orthodox Jews
Post by: Tzvi Ben Roshel1 on August 30, 2007, 10:16:19 PM
Tzvi, what you say is correct.  I do believe what Yacov is saying is that he, being an Ashkenaz Jew, would prefer being with another of like rather than a black convert.  Of course a Jew being with a Jew is much preferable to a Jew with a gentile.  The problem as I see it is a product of the Socialist "multi-cultural" "embrace diversity" crowed.  Different cultures, religions and even races have, logically, things in common with one another in most instances.  A Sephardit Jew most often marries another Sephardit Jew and not an Ashkenaz for example.  Perhaps Yacov simply doesn't find Black women attractive? I, in all honesty, don't know.  I much prefer a Jew over a gentile as a gentile much prefer a gentile over a Jew.  I hope this helps... :)

your right, I would definitly prefer marrying someone in my culture (Bukharian Jewish). I would say that I would marry a Bukharian girl for 75%, A Sefardic girl 20%, and an Askenazi 5%.
Title: Re: Truthfull question for orthodox Jews
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on September 19, 2007, 04:32:54 AM
This is a surprisng question. Hallacha is clear. Jews must marry only Jews, and Goym only Goyim. A Jew can marry a black Jewess, as far as she is hallachically a Jewess, whether by birth or right conversion, but he cannot marry a Goyah. No matter if she is a Christian or even Noahide. She is a Goyah and must marry a Goy.
Title: Re: Truthfull question for orthodox Jews
Post by: AussieJTFer on September 19, 2007, 05:35:06 AM
The product of intermarriage is what we see in Israel today with these nazi russians who have one Jewish parent or grandparent. These "half" Jews not only turn away from the religion of their parents/grandparents but become enemies of it. Intermarried Jews are the excrement of world Jewry.
Title: Re: Truthfull question for orthodox Jews
Post by: White Israelite on September 19, 2007, 10:11:29 AM
My personal choice is that I am against interracial marriage. I would only marry another Jew of the same race as me.
Title: Re: Truthfull question for orthodox Jews
Post by: MarZutra on September 19, 2007, 10:14:12 AM
My personal choice is that I am against interracial marriage. I would only marry another Jew of the same race as me.
Add me to that list....  Agreed... ;)
Title: Re: Truthfull question for orthodox Jews
Post by: Dominater96 on September 30, 2007, 11:25:35 AM
first of all marriage of orthodox jews should be based of love

there's nothing wrong with a black jew , common , that is a wierd quastion

Go (i'm saying this in sake of parallelism , not actually telling u to go somewhere but israel) to stay in ethiopia for 2000 years and tell youre offsprings to retrun after such a long time , They will be black in skin!

all jews are jews , there is no difference , and i saw very nice looking ethiopyan jewish women , So , "tafsik levalbel ba moach" , as we say in hebrew hehehe


and even for the sake of the arguement , there are ugly white gentiles female's as there are good looking black gentile females (and vice versa), but u should marry neither (unless they bacame jewish) because youre jewish and suppose to marry only a jewish girl



Marriage of Jews should not be about love. It should be about fulfilling g-ds command to reproduce.
Title: Re: Truthfull question for orthodox Jews
Post by: Tzvi Ben Roshel1 on October 01, 2007, 09:22:57 PM
Dominater96- sorry but your wronge.
Marrriage isnt only about reproducing. Their has to be love and a desire to be with eachother, (but in accordince with Jewish law).


http://www.torahanytime.com/rav_daniel_cohen.html
 Download- Dating & Marriage Part 1
         and then if you want more go to part 2.

Please tell me what you think after you have watched the video (or MP3).
Title: Re: Truthfull question for orthodox Jews
Post by: MarZutra on October 14, 2007, 06:39:09 PM
Interesting question and it was very interesting to read the answers too. I think it would be 20000% wrong for a Jew to marry a Gentile no matter what. As for interracial marriage, I'm divided on it.
How about this, to make this more interesting (well, at least in my opinion, this thread is already interesting) :
Would you marry a Christian gentile OR a Mexican Jewish woman??? Hmmm....I think I'll make a thread about this.
Personally, As you know, I'm against inter-racial marriages.  I believe Hashem made different races for a reason, like he did different other species within the same family.  I feel that this issue has become too politicized in all reality.  On another thread about so-called "racism" I stated that if a black man professed to pro-black/black power, black pride, has respect for his culture, faith and ethnicity it is openly embraced and even supported/advocated by governmental/media/social/legal institutions here in the West: economically speaking: Affirmative Action.  This, of course, is very much similar to all other races except Whites (Jews included).  If a white has pride in his/her heritage, culture, faith or ethnicity they are automatically slammed as a "racist", "bigot" or whatever exploding into debate.  

Is it not logical for like people to WANT to be with like people, without the television glorifying shvartzism and other primative cultures forcing the expectation of Ol-Whitey embracing and valuing all other cultures and peoples but their own?  

I don't see any reason why if one wishes to remain with like they are not free to choose to do so instead of this egalitarian 1960's "sex not war" rubbish..  Ok.  I'm starting to digress...  but I think you get the picture where I'm coming from...
Title: Re: Truthfull question for orthodox Jews
Post by: Dominater96 on October 15, 2007, 10:51:15 PM
Dominater96- sorry but your wronge.
Marrriage isnt only about reproducing. Their has to be love and a desire to be with eachother, (but in accordince with Jewish law).


http://www.torahanytime.com/rav_daniel_cohen.html
 Download- Dating & Marriage Part 1
         and then if you want more go to part 2.

Please tell me what you think after you have watched the video (or MP3).
Your right, I went a little overboard. But the essence of Marriage is to have children. That is why if Jews are married, and they cant have children for 13(?) years, they have to divorce. Rabbi Kahane was asked, "isnt it racist to ban goy, and Jewish marriage?" Rabbi Kahane responded, "no its torah, Jews are married to have children, no matter how much you "love" the other person doesnt matter" it deosnt matter how much u love the goy.
Title: Re: Truthfull question for orthodox Jews
Post by: Tzvi Ben Roshel1 on October 16, 2007, 11:14:25 PM
I believe its 10 years, and I dont know you you MUST have a divorce or if you can (or if its suggested to).
Title: Re: Truthfull question for orthodox Jews
Post by: newman on October 17, 2007, 04:15:04 AM
A Jew can't marry a black. There is a Mitzvah against bestiallity.