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The Worldwide Crisis of Islam => The Truth About Islam => Topic started by: Christian Zionist on August 22, 2006, 08:49:14 PM

Title: Goat Panties and Suggestive Veggies
Post by: Christian Zionist on August 22, 2006, 08:49:14 PM
Sharia Law in action in Iraq  ;D

http://www.headsetoptions.org/2006/08/07/goat-panties-and-suggestive-veggies/

This is the kind of democracy that Bush try to introduce in Iraq.
Title: Re: Goat Panties and Suggestive Veggies
Post by: Shlomo on August 22, 2006, 11:31:16 PM
I dunno... goat diapers? You think that's for real? The video wasn't there. Hmmm... it's pretty darn funny tho! LOL
Title: Re: Goat Panties and Suggestive Veggies
Post by: Tough_American on August 23, 2006, 06:44:41 PM
That is the Wahabi version of Islam which is corrupted. The original version of Islam is not like that. It is much more peaceful.
Title: Re: Goat Panties and Suggestive Veggies
Post by: MasterWolf1 on August 23, 2006, 07:02:15 PM
Can you please show where Islam is peacefull? Islam is on a 1400 year old bloody worldwide rampage.  Read the Koran and tell me where Islam is peacefull.
Title: Re: Goat Panties and Suggestive Veggies
Post by: Christian Zionist on August 23, 2006, 07:02:39 PM
That is the Wahabi version of Islam which is corrupted. The original version of Islam is not like that. It is much more peaceful.

Now we know who you are!

That ;D muhammed followed which version of islam.  All versions of islam ultimately spring from that insane koran

That satanic sewer pig who is burning in hell was never peaceful.  he was the first and greatest of all terrorists.

Title: Re: Goat Panties and Suggestive Veggies
Post by: MasterWolf1 on August 23, 2006, 07:11:48 PM
I hate to call Muzzies and Mohammed (spit be upon him) pigs.  Cause I hate to insult pigs like that.
Title: Re: Goat Panties and Suggestive Veggies
Post by: Tough_American on August 23, 2006, 10:18:23 PM
That is the Wahabi version of Islam which is corrupted. The original version of Islam is not like that. It is much more peaceful.

Now we know who you are!

That ;D muhammed followed which version of islam.  All versions of islam ultimately spring from that insane koran

That satanic sewer pig who is burning in hell was never peaceful.  he was the first and greatest of all terrorists.



would you like to suck my big fat arab hairy salami?

 ;D
Title: Re: Goat Panties and Suggestive Veggies
Post by: MasterWolf1 on August 23, 2006, 11:30:58 PM
Hey Muzzie ahole save your self for your camel wife shes going to need it you filthy muslim dog :spit: on you and your cult.
Title: Re: Goat Panties and Suggestive Veggies
Post by: MasterWolf1 on August 23, 2006, 11:33:05 PM
This is Islam they are a sick disease.
Title: Re: Goat Panties and Suggestive Veggies
Post by: NeverMore on August 24, 2006, 12:09:34 AM
That is the Wahabi version of Islam which is corrupted. The original version of Islam is not like that. It is much more peaceful.

Now we know who you are!

That ;D muhammed followed which version of islam.  All versions of islam ultimately spring from that insane koran

That satanic sewer pig who is burning in hell was never peaceful.  he was the first and greatest of all terrorists.



would you like to suck my big fat arab hairy salami?

 ;D

come on, dear administrator, how do you let these arab nazis here look whats going on the guy just ruins this forum. "tough_american", i would single-handedly kick your dark hairy nazi arab ass
Title: Re: Goat Panties and Suggestive Veggies
Post by: udeckem on August 24, 2006, 05:36:15 AM
Goats in panties! 

Too fricken much.  Embroidered with the day of the week no doubt!

No wonder Islam is so widely accepted in ghetto-land.

 
Title: Re: Goat Panties and Suggestive Veggies
Post by: NeverMore on August 27, 2006, 05:53:41 PM
how perverted one has to be to think sexually of animals... unbelieveable that its actually anchored deep in that religion.
Title: Re: Goat Panties and Suggestive Veggies
Post by: khaan on September 04, 2006, 01:33:51 PM
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Can you please show where Islam is peacefull? Islam is on a 1400 year old bloody worldwide rampage.  Read the Koran and tell me where Islam is peacefull.

A quote from the Quran (soz forgotten numbers):
"Whoever kills one person, it is as if he has killed the entire mankind." Isn't that peaceful?
It also clearly shows that all the "fight .." passages are to be taken as metaphors and the fighting being referred to is the kind i'm doing on this forum right now.
Title: Re: Goat Panties and Suggestive Veggies
Post by: khaan on September 04, 2006, 01:50:24 PM
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Then see what Osama Bin Laden has to say about that?

ok, I belong to the Ahmadi sect, its neither sunni nor shia. I don't believe everything other muslims do (esp ppl like him) is correct. We believe that many things should be taken as metaphors, so much so, that although we emphasis jihad quite a lot, you will have never heard of an ahmadi commiting acts of terrorism (or even killing, for that matter).

trust me, i despise islamofascism as much as you do. in pakistan, ahmadiat is illegal, and im sure in iran and several arab states it would be as well. we are executed in pakistan, we are tortured simply for saying "Salaam." When i argue anything, its not for them, its from our sect's point of view unless stated otherwise.
Title: Re: Goat Panties and Suggestive Veggies
Post by: Shlomo on September 04, 2006, 06:09:52 PM
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Then see what Osama Bin Laden has to say about that?

ok, I belong to the Ahmadi sect, its neither sunni nor shia. I don't believe everything other muslims do (esp ppl like him) is correct. We believe that many things should be taken as metaphors, so much so, that although we emphasis jihad quite a lot, you will have never heard of an ahmadi commiting acts of terrorism (or even killing, for that matter).

trust me, i despise islamofascism as much as you do. in pakistan, ahmadiat is illegal, and im sure in iran and several arab states it would be as well. we are executed in pakistan, we are tortured simply for saying "Salaam." When i argue anything, its not for them, its from our sect's point of view unless stated otherwise.

Have you actually ever READ the koran?
Title: Re: Goat Panties and Suggestive Veggies
Post by: khaan on September 04, 2006, 07:15:24 PM
as i said elsewhere, theres no command telling people: "THOU SHALT NOT ACCEPT METAPHORS" is there?

and fyi, yes. as well as its annotations, which is something you NEED if you want to understand it.
Title: Re: Goat Panties and Suggestive Veggies
Post by: Rhuan on September 04, 2006, 07:31:12 PM
khaan is a friend of mine who I have religous arguments with on a daily basis.

In his opinion, everything he finds in the quran that doesn't agree with his oppinion of what is right is a metaphor, however, I really can't work out quite what surah nine verse five could be a metaphor for...

Anyway, from his strange point of view, Islam teaches the same message as the declaration of human rights...

I can't see how that works myself...
Title: Re: Goat Panties and Suggestive Veggies
Post by: khaan on September 04, 2006, 07:35:56 PM
Surah 9 is what god said to mohammad before the battles with the arabs. its not commands for modern day. any annotation will tell you that.

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I can't see how that works myself
it would work extremely well. a theocracy under ahmadiyyat would be like any other modern democracy, just without its bad things like prostitution, pornography, alcohol, gambling, monetary debt, and interest. (and there'd be a clothing restriction - knees to shoulders covered in public unless youre swimming or something)

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with his oppinion of what is right is a metaphor,
my opinion of what is right is based on the ethics my dad gave me when i was little, which was all based on islam.
Title: Re: Goat Panties and Suggestive Veggies
Post by: Rhuan on September 04, 2006, 07:46:24 PM
A holy book is not meant to need annotations.
Title: Re: Goat Panties and Suggestive Veggies
Post by: Shlomo on September 04, 2006, 09:12:30 PM
it would work extremely well. a theocracy under ahmadiyyat would be like any other modern democracy, just without its bad things like prostitution, pornography, alcohol, gambling, monetary debt, and interest.

You forgot freedom... without freedom.  :)
Title: Re: Goat Panties and Suggestive Veggies
Post by: khaan on September 04, 2006, 09:18:32 PM
i didnt forget it, its not meant to be on the list.

before you show your ignorance any more, go away and actually find out what ahmadiyyat is without immediately prejudicing against it just because it is part of islam.
Title: Re: Goat Panties and Suggestive Veggies
Post by: khaan on September 04, 2006, 09:36:20 PM
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believe in the part of The Koran that says to kill all the infidels.
And, I suppose, iyo, believeing its a metaphor (kill being the kinda stuff i do on these forums i.e: spread the message peacefully) is not believeing it?

btw, where is this definition? I'd like to see it.
Title: Re: Goat Panties and Suggestive Veggies
Post by: khaan on September 04, 2006, 10:11:49 PM
Yeah, you'll have to direct me to a specific verse on that one, and I'll see what I make of it
Title: Re: Goat Panties and Suggestive Veggies
Post by: Rhuan on September 05, 2006, 09:41:43 AM
Perhaps it is not real Islam. Someone should ask Chaim about this. I heard once it can be considered a separate religion like The Druze which also was originally a part of Islam.

It is also argumentable that a majority of "Muslims" aren't real Muslims just because they don't believe in the part of The Koran that says to kill all the infidels. Islam is not like Judaism. A Jew is born a Jew no matter what they believe in, even if they convert to another religion. But a Muslim is not a Muslim if they don't believe in The Koran, just like Christians are Christians just by virtue of believing in Jesus. In Judaism, you are religious by doing the mitzvot. Believing isn't enough. If you believe but don't do all the mitzvot, then you are just Traditional. But in Islam and Christianity, believing is what makes someone religious and in the case of Islam, not believing makes someone no longer be a Muslim. Perhaps a Christian here can say if someone can stop being a Christian by not believing. I know someone who likes JTF and he agrees with Chaim's position on the definition of a Muslim. But by that, he believes a majority of Muslims aren't really Muslims.

From what I have read of Islam, and from what I know of my own religion (I'm a christian if you don't already know), I don't agree with all your points here.

From what I have read of Islam, someone who is born of muslim parents is considered to be a muslim, if they then reject Islam, they are often treated as is suggested in the quran:

"Those who reject Islam must be killed. If they turn back, take them and kill them wherever you find them". Surah 4, verse 89.

Regarding my own religion, if you do not beleive, you are not a christian, sinmple as that, some people would call themselves chrisitian despite not beleiving in Jesus's sacrifice, or even beleiving in God at all, however, that is just like saying you are computer programmer who has never seen a computer, it makes no sense. Christianity is not a race, it is a set of beliefs, it is the belief that Jesus, God's son, and at the same time, part of God, died to save us from our sins, someone who does not believe that cannot be a christian.
Title: Re: Goat Panties and Suggestive Veggies
Post by: Christian Zionist on September 06, 2006, 01:11:57 AM
What about Unitarians? They reject The Holy Trinity but still believe in Jesus as The Messiah, but not as G-d. Are they Christian?

Muslims actually believe everyone is born a Muslim, regardless of their parents, and then they can choose whether to stay a Muslim or become an infidel. What a sick religion it is.



Unitarians are not Christians.  Anyone who does not believe in the Holy Trinity and in the Deity of Jesus in not a Christian.  Also any Christian who hates Jews, does not believe in the restoration of Israel during end times is not a true Christian either.

A Unitarian might call himself as a Christian but he is an oxymoran. It is similar to some Jews who say that they follow Judaism but they do not believe in Zionism.  How can a person be truly Jewish and not believing in Zionism at the same time? 
Title: Re: Goat Panties and Suggestive Veggies
Post by: Shlomo on September 06, 2006, 02:19:24 AM
Unitarians are not Christians.  Anyone who does not believe in the Holy Trinity and in the Deity of Jesus in not a Christian.  Also any Christian who hates Jews, does not believe in the restoration of Israel during end times is not a true Christian either.

I am going to gently disagree. There is no mention of the concept of the trinity in the Bible. And John 1:1 is the only reference used to say that Jesus was a deity...

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

And that could be taken a number of ways. The Catholic church argued this point at the Council of Nicaea in about 325 A.D.
Title: Re: Goat Panties and Suggestive Veggies
Post by: khaan on September 06, 2006, 02:29:41 PM
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Muslims actually believe everyone is born a Muslim,
Actually, its "sinless" not "muslim." We believe that if a newborn baby dies s/he'll go straight to heaven, as no sins will have been committed. You dont have to be a muslim to get sent to heaven

(DOnt know about mainstreamists though)

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"Those who reject Islam must be killed. If they turn back, take them and kill them wherever you find them"
That was part of the law during early Islam. It was used to protect Islam, as very often, the few who had unconverted would begin spreading lies about Islam (and Im talking actual lies, not misinterpretations or whatever) for example: that muslims worship mohammad and stuff. However, people who simply unconverted and were still friendly towards Islam were treated normally. This is the punishment for Apostasy.

The Ahmadi view (taken from the book "Murder in the name of Allah" by Mirza Tahir Ahmad - despite the name, it renounces any claims that Islam supports killing and terrorism by using the Quran):

The Quran defines an apostate:
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They will not stop fighting you until they turn you back from your faith, if they can. The works of those from among you who turn back from their faith and die in a state of disbelieve shall be vain in this world and the next. These are the inmates of the fire, and there shll they abide - 2:218
Anybody who unconverts has a right to do so, and no-one can declare him an apostate apart from himself. Nowhere in the Quran has this been granted to others.
What this means is, people are free to renounce their faith, but not to impose their renounciation on others.
Hence, an apostate is not someone who unconverts, but who unconverts and then forces other people to unconvert against their will.

When it comes to unconverting simply, there is no mention of any punishment for them.

Title: Re: Goat Panties and Suggestive Veggies
Post by: Rhuan on September 06, 2006, 02:37:33 PM
@jeffguy: John 14:10  "Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me?"

@khaan: "Those who reject Islam must be killed. If they turn back, take them and kill them wherever you find them". Quran, Surah 4, verse 89. I gave the reference so you could look it up...
Title: Re: Goat Panties and Suggestive Veggies
Post by: khaan on September 06, 2006, 02:50:36 PM
@ rhuan:
DID YOU FAIL TO READ MY LAST POST?
the ppl being referred to there are apostates as defined by the Quran.
Title: Re: Goat Panties and Suggestive Veggies
Post by: Rhuan on September 06, 2006, 02:53:15 PM
It doesn't say that, it says "Those who reject Islam".
Title: Re: Goat Panties and Suggestive Veggies
Post by: khaan on September 06, 2006, 02:55:56 PM
you seem to lack the skill of reading between the lines.
no wonder you completely screwed up to hell our english exam.

also youve made the very common error of taking things out of context.
Title: Re: Goat Panties and Suggestive Veggies
Post by: khaan on September 06, 2006, 02:57:57 PM
besides, earlier on  IN THE SAME VERSE it says:

THEY HOPE THAT YOU WILL REJECT JUST AS THEY REJECTED
idiot
Title: Re: Goat Panties and Suggestive Veggies
Post by: Rhuan on September 06, 2006, 03:11:08 PM
"They hope that you would reject as they rejected, then you would be the same. Do not take any of them as allies until they emigrate in the cause of God. If they turn away, then take them and kill them where you find them; and do not take from them any ally or supporter."

What it says if if they turn away from Islam they will hope that will will also do so, it is also saying, as a mulsim, don't take any supporter or ally from those who have turned away from Islam. And then finally it is saying kill all of those who have turned away.
Title: Re: Goat Panties and Suggestive Veggies
Post by: khaan on September 06, 2006, 03:17:44 PM
"they" refers back to "they" in the first sentence.
Title: Re: Goat Panties and Suggestive Veggies
Post by: Rhuan on September 06, 2006, 03:28:46 PM
You've missed my point, it is saying that all people who have rejected Islam will hope that you will also do so. And, that all who have rejected Islam must be killed.
Title: Re: Goat Panties and Suggestive Veggies
Post by: khaan on September 06, 2006, 04:33:37 PM
actually it doesnt. find the words "all" or "everyone who" in that first sentence.
it refers to the "hypocrites" (basically ppl who pretended to be muslim in order to spread lies) during the early days. The preceeding verse puts it in context. During that time, some muslims were thinking to let them off the hook, and some where thinking to punish them.
Title: Re: Goat Panties and Suggestive Veggies
Post by: Rhuan on September 06, 2006, 04:41:11 PM
"What is the matter with you that you are divided into two groups over the hypocrites, while God has regressed them for what they have earned? Do you want to guide those whom God misguides? Whoever God causes to be misguided, you will never find for him a way." Says nothing of any kind about people pretending to be muslims.
Title: Re: Goat Panties and Suggestive Veggies
Post by: khaan on September 06, 2006, 04:43:23 PM
the "two groups" thing puts it into a time perspective.
besides, isnt it hypocritical to say "I am a muslim" and then go spread lies about it when true muslims arent watching?
Title: Re: Goat Panties and Suggestive Veggies
Post by: Scriabin on September 06, 2006, 04:48:18 PM
By the way german werewolf, are you by chance armin meiwes?
Title: Re: Goat Panties and Suggestive Veggies
Post by: Rhuan on September 06, 2006, 05:11:36 PM
germanwerewolf hasn't posted in this thread.
Title: Re: Goat Panties and Suggestive Veggies
Post by: El Cabong! on September 06, 2006, 07:42:22 PM
Check this out. Muslims are friggin perverts on top of being sexually repressed, these so called moral and just people are amongst the most perverse in the universe.


May 17, 2006
Pakistan: Muslims Are Sex-Starved Surfers, With Bestial Interests
The Pakistan Daily Times reports that a Google survey found that mostly Muslim nations seek access to sites of a sexual nature, and Pakistan is top of that list. Of the top 10 countries searching for sex-related sites, six were Muslim, and Pakistan was the leader, followed by Egypt (no 2), Iran (no 4), Morocco (no 5), Saudi Arabia (no 7) and Turkey at no 8. Vietnam was third, India at no 6, Philipines at 9 and Poland at 10. To verify the results, click here.

But Western Resistance is not content to let it rest here. If you click on the following links, you can see the data for yourself. In all of the following categories of bestiality, Pakistan was top of the list of Google searches for:
Pig Sex, with Egypt (no 2) and Saudi Arabia (no 3) following.
Donkey Sex, with India (no 2), Iran (no 3) and Saudi Arabia (no 4) following.
Dog Sex, with India (no 2), and Saudi Arabia (no 3)
Cat Sex (!!!), with Iran (no 2), Egypt (no 3) and Saudi Arabia (no 4) following.
Horse Sex, followed by India (no 2) and Turkey (no 3)
Cow Sex, with Iran (no 2), India (no 3) and Saudi Arabia (no 4) following.
Goat Sex, with India (no 2) and New Zealand (no 3) following
Animal Sex, with Morocco (no 2), India (no 3), Iran (no 4), Egypt (no 5)

It is truly bizarre that Pakistan should top the search lists for ALL of the above categories. But your intrepid Western Resistance researcher was not prepared to let it rest at that. Surely there is something highly relevant in the above figures.

Bizarrely, though the Pakistani web-surfer wants to see images of Goat Sex, the same nation is not interested in looking for sites on Sheep Sex. In fact, no Muslim countries were interested in sheep, perhaps because they eat lamb. Never play with one's dinners, seems to be the moral here.

But if four-legged animals seem to whet the Muslim surfer's appetite, creatures with only two legs were not interesting. So for Duck Sex, only Western nations are featured, with Norway number one. But for Chicken Sex, the antipodeans seem most interested, with Australia number one, followed by the US and then New Zealand.

Another Muslim nation, Malaysia, was most interested in Fish Sex, but once again, Pakistan was top of the charts for Snake Sex. Before you start guessing, these sites involve women "inserting" these creatures.

On a search for Gay Sex, the Philippines was top of the list, with Saudi Arabia coming in at number two. Forbidden fruits?

The word "ass" has double meanings, as a donkey and as a posterior, and a search for Ass Sex found Saudi Arabia was top, followed by Pakistan (no 2), Egypt (no 3), Iran (no 4), the United Arab Emirates (no 5), Greece (no 6) and Morocco (no 7). Ironically a search for Bottom Sex found the United Kingdom in top place, followed by India (no 2) and the US (no 3).

But Anal Sex was most sought after in Saudi Arabia, followed by Turkey (no 2).

A search on Oral Sex found only one Muslim nation in the top ten, with Turkey coming in at fifth place.

No Muslim nations were interested in Lesbian Sex, Granny Sex or Kinky Sex.

http://www.westernresistance.com/blog/archives/002161.html
Title: Re: Goat Panties and Suggestive Veggies
Post by: El Cabong! on September 06, 2006, 07:45:12 PM
IT caused outrage among East Timorese and Australian troops sent to protect them, raised tensions among UN peacekeepers to a deadly new level and caused senior UN staff to resign in disgust.

The deployment of Jordanian peacekeepers to East Timor was probably one of the most contentious UN decisions to follow the bloody independence ballot. It was eclipsed only by the cover-up and inaction that followed when the world body learned of their involvement in a series of horrific sex crimes involving children living in the war-battered Oecussi enclave.

Children were not the only victims - in early 2001, two Jordanians were evacuated home with injured penises after attempting sexual intercourse with goats--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.etan.org/et2005/march/20/26hushed.htm
Title: Re: Goat Panties and Suggestive Veggies
Post by: El Cabong! on September 06, 2006, 08:13:43 PM
They need a goat wit ha burka otherwise, no sex or marriage.
Title: Re: Goat Panties and Suggestive Veggies
Post by: Hail Columbia on September 06, 2006, 08:33:47 PM
Check this out. Muslims are friggin perverts on top of being sexually repressed, these so called moral and just people are amongst the most perverse in the universe.

I think that I've just figured out how to win the war on Islamofascism.  Dump tons of hardcore porn, especially beastial porn, on terrorist hideouts.  The destabilizing effect will be felt immediately.
Title: Re: Goat Panties and Suggestive Veggies
Post by: El Cabong! on September 06, 2006, 09:35:39 PM
Mulsims fought a 40 year war to defend the "honor" of a female camel. Unfrigginbeleivable!

Sheik Muhsen Al-’Awaji: Before Islam, the Arabs fought for 40 years to defend the honor of a female camel. This was in the Busous War. A female camel was humiliated, and a 40-year war ensued to defend its honor. So what about the honor of the Prophet?

Interviewer: Are you proud of this?!

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=19545&only