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Title: How religious will a Jewish Israel be?
Post by: Dr. Dan on October 26, 2007, 05:27:18 PM

Dexter brought up a great point and I wanted to open a new thread for this subject.

We have very observant Jews and less observant Jews who practice adquate Judaism.  We have 1000's of different traditions and all kinds of fences that are not in the Torah but man-made (by wise humble men, but are, neverthless men). 

When and if Israel becomes a religious state, to what degree should it be religious?  There are so many rules that go with each of the 613 commandments...and there are a lot of fences.

Also, interpretations of rules change with the times.  I'm not saying the Torah law changes...the words are the words..but how we see the meaning of these words do change...just like the way society changes.  So how dynamic will a religious Jewish state be?  I believe that just as we have in our society, progressives and traditionalists, we will have rabbis who will follow under those categories...some who are far in progressive realm while another will be far in the opposite extreme with some in the middle.

All I have to say is that if there are going to be 70 of them...and all of them very wise...I know that Israel will be in very good hands with those types of judges instead of what exists today.

Title: Re: How religious will a Jewish Israel be?
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on October 27, 2007, 11:28:42 PM

Chaim has said that these decisions will all be made by the Sanhedrin, in gradual increments, and will depend on if and how much the Israeli people are ready for them.

I am positive that he would make Israel into a religious state, but am also positive that he would never stand for government going to the extremes of the Saudis or Taliban. In other words--I do not think that Kahanism would create a national Shabbat police that will enter peoples' homes to make sure they are resting, but they would make sure all businesses close for the Sabbath.

Title: Re: How religious will a Jewish Israel be?
Post by: Eliezer Ben Avraham on October 27, 2007, 11:40:55 PM

Quote from: C.F. on October 27, 2007, 11:28:42 PM

Chaim has said that these decisions will all be made by the Sanhedrin, in gradual increments, and will depend on if and how much the Israeli people are ready for them.

I am positive that he would make Israel into a religious state, but am also positive that he would never stand for government going to the extremes of the Saudis or Taliban. In other words--I do not think that Kahanism would create a national Shabbat police that will enter peoples' homes to make sure they are resting, but they would make sure all businesses close for the Sabbath.

I agree. I think that we have to make Israel a religious state but we don't G-d forbid want to have a civil war over this. Any legitimate interpretation will be excepted. For example the rice on passover issue with the Sefaradim, I think that even an Ashkenazi would be permitted to eat rice since it isnt against Torah law and it is only custom not to eat rice.