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Title: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: The Shadow on November 04, 2007, 01:03:30 AM
These black inventions are mostly lies
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: maryjoe on November 04, 2007, 01:06:03 AM
These black inventions are mostly lies
the black inventor Frederick was granted over 40 patents check it out.
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: newman on November 04, 2007, 01:06:59 AM
Whites invented things in Europe AND the colonies. If blacks were capable of inventing they would have done so in Africa.
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: The Shadow on November 04, 2007, 01:07:34 AM
But Mary Joe,  your list said a black man invented the air conditioner, when in fact it was a white man, named Carrier who was the first one to invent it and patent it
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: jdl4ever on November 04, 2007, 01:09:29 AM
Firstly, any idiot can be granted a patent.  All you need to do is make up a new device, it doesn't have to have any use to society at all.  For example, I could patent the design to a 4 blade knife I make up if its design is different than any other knife.  But will anyone use such a thing?  No.  Secondly, I bet all of his inventions were really not invented by himself as was the air conditioner. 
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: maryjoe on November 04, 2007, 01:12:46 AM
But Mary Joe,  your list said a black man invented the air conditioner, when in fact it was a white man, named Carrier who was the first one to invent it and patent it
you guys get very upset when good things are said about black people. are you sure you guys are not racist? maybe you are in denial.
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: The Shadow on November 04, 2007, 01:13:08 AM
Mary Joe, I dont trust anything on your list by black inventors. I just don't believe it.  
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: The Shadow on November 04, 2007, 01:14:00 AM
But Mary Joe,  your list said a black man invented the air conditioner, when in fact it was a white man, named Carrier who was the first one to invent it and patent it
you guys get very upset when good things are said about black people. are you sure you guys are not racist? maybe you are in denial.

Mary Joe: Denial is in Egypt
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: jdl4ever on November 04, 2007, 01:14:13 AM
You still haven't answered the question for the 3rd time, that the air conditioner was really not invented by the black man.  I think that you are racist for stealing a white man's invention and making believe it is your own. 
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: The Shadow on November 04, 2007, 01:15:49 AM
You still haven't answered the question for the 3rd time, that the air conditioner was really not invented by the black man.  I think that you are racist for stealing a white man's invention and making believe it is your own. 

JDL, I keep asking her about that and she won't answer my question
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: maryjoe on November 04, 2007, 01:21:54 AM
[quote a :::D :::Duthor=The Shadow link=topic=10739.msg113312#msg113312 date=1194156949]
You still haven't answered the question for the 3rd time, that the air conditioner was really not invented by the black man.  I think that you are racist for stealing a white man's invention and making believe it is your own. 

JDL, I keep asking her about that and she won't answer my question
[/quote]Don't be angry that Black are not what you want to believe they are.
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: maryjoe on November 04, 2007, 01:26:43 AM
[quote a :::D :::Duthor=The Shadow link=topic=10739.msg113312#msg113312 date=1194156949]
You still haven't answered the question for the 3rd time, that the air conditioner was really not invented by the black man.  I think that you are racist for stealing a white man's invention and making believe it is your own. 

JDL, I keep asking her about that and she won't answer my question
Don't be angry that Black are not what you want to believe they are.
[/quote]Don't be angry that black people are not what you want to believe they are.
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: The Shadow on November 04, 2007, 01:29:06 AM
[quote a :::D :::Duthor=The Shadow link=topic=10739.msg113312#msg113312 date=1194156949]
You still haven't answered the question for the 3rd time, that the air conditioner was really not invented by the black man.  I think that you are racist for stealing a white man's invention and making believe it is your own. 

JDL, I keep asking her about that and she won't answer my question
Don't be angry that Black are not what you want to believe they are.
[/quote]

Maryjoe:  I just looked it up on the internet and it turns out that Carrier was actually the first one to invent and patent the air conditioner.  And you refuse to answer why your list claims a black man invented it.  Why are you avoiding answering this question??????????????????????????????
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: The Shadow on November 04, 2007, 01:32:38 AM
MaryJoe: Please don't try to tell me Carrier was really a black man
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: maryjoe on November 04, 2007, 01:42:07 AM
MaryJoe: Please don't try to tell me Carrier was really a black man
Racism comes from the evil inclination. if you say you worship G-D-Hashem but are controle by the evil inclination, then your hated for blacks has blinded you. You are not really righteous. you are fooling your self.
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: Ehud on November 04, 2007, 01:48:49 AM
Most of that list is bunk.  Posting lies to prove some point is completely ineffective maryjoe.  You might want to rethink using those sources.  People who are willing to use lies to justify spreading their beliefs are dangerous.
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: Boeregeneraal on November 04, 2007, 02:37:22 AM
MaryJoe, go live with your black friends ok, and visit their top secret underground labs-where theire proffessors are discovering fantastic new technologies.

So, don't let me keep you up.

bye bye
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: maryjoe on November 04, 2007, 02:40:24 AM
MaryJoe: Please don't try to tell me Carrier was really a black man
Racism comes from the evil inclination. if you say you worship  but are controle by the evil inclination, then your hated for blacks has blinded you. You are not really righteous. you are fooling your self.


Blacks' evil behavior is what comes from The Evil Inclination?

I thought this creature was banned?


It is very sad to be blinded by hate. Father Abraham is a good examply. he open the door to all. unlike you he tyred to see the good in all. throw off the evil inclnation before it is too late and you perish in darkness.
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: Boeregeneraal on November 04, 2007, 02:45:14 AM
MaryJoe: Please don't try to tell me Carrier was really a black man
Racism comes from the evil inclination. if you say you worship  but are controle by the evil inclination, then your hated for blacks has blinded you. You are not really righteous. you are fooling your self.


Blacks' evil behavior is what comes from The Evil Inclination?

I thought this creature was banned?


It is very sad to be blinded by hate. Father Abraham is a good examply. he open the door to all. unlike you he tyred to see the good in all. throw off the evil inclnation before it is too late and you perish in darkness.

I can tell you dozens of times, when "good" whites opened their doores to the blacks.
They clothed them, fed them, EVERYTHING!
How did those pieces of **** rethank the whites, they slit their throats during the night!!!!

Maryjoe, ive i were you, id be VEEERY carefull when near your black geniuses
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: maryjoe on November 04, 2007, 02:53:00 AM
MaryJoe: Please don't try to tell me Carrier was really a black man
Racism comes from the evil inclination. if you say you worship  but are controle by the evil inclination, then your hated for blacks has blinded you. You are not really righteous. you are fooling your self.


Blacks' evil behavior is what comes from The Evil Inclination?

I thought this creature was banned?


It is very sad to be blinded by hate. Father Abraham is a good examply. he open the door to all. unlike you he tyred to see the good in all. throw off the evil inclnation before it is too late and you perish in darkness.

I can tell you dozens of times, when "good" whites opened their doores to the blacks.
They clothed them, fed them, EVERYTHING!
How did those pieces of **** rethank the whites, they slit their throats during the night!!!!

Maryjoe, ive i were you, id be VEEERY carefull when near your black geniuses
truth be told, if you guys lived in Israel you would be attacking black Jews also. you hate anything black good or bad. you have one obstacle, Hashem. Hashem will protect those you seek to destroy. And please spar me the bull about you not being racist.   
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: Boeregeneraal on November 04, 2007, 03:15:09 AM
Still....a YES or No question.

hahaha yes

Maryjoe, want some Brazillia Mayonaise?
It was designed by a black....yuuuuum :D :D
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: Ehud on November 04, 2007, 03:31:01 AM
There's nothing wrong with disliking something that you know is evil.  The evil inclination has to do with the way most blacks choose to behave.  Sorry, you're losing in every facet of your argument, maryjoe. 
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: newman on November 04, 2007, 03:40:38 AM
MaryJoe: Please don't try to tell me Carrier was really a black man
Racism comes from the evil inclination. if you say you worship  but are controle by the evil inclination, then your hated for blacks has blinded you. You are not really righteous. you are fooling your self.


Blacks' evil behavior is what comes from The Evil Inclination?

I thought this creature was banned?


It is very sad to be blinded by hate. Father Abraham is a good examply. he open the door to all. unlike you he tyred to see the good in all. throw off the evil inclnation before it is too late and you perish in darkness.

I can tell you dozens of times, when "good" whites opened their doores to the blacks.
They clothed them, fed them, EVERYTHING!
How did those pieces of **** rethank the whites, they slit their throats during the night!!!!

Maryjoe, ive i were you, id be VEEERY carefull when near your black geniuses
truth be told, if you guys lived in Israel you would be attacking black Jews also. you hate anything black good or bad. you have one obstacle, Hashem. Hashem will protect those you seek to destroy. And please spar me the bull about you not being racist.   

If you'll care to go through our boards, you'll see that we sing the praises of Allen Keys, Joe Clark and Larry Elder (all negroes). JTF hayes evil culture. We don't give a hoot about pigmentation.
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: Mstislav on November 04, 2007, 04:58:52 AM
Perhaps Maryjoe is really Erica?
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: Mstislav on November 04, 2007, 05:07:04 AM
Still....a YES or No question.

hahaha yes

Maryjoe, want some Brazillia Mayonaise?
It was designed by a black....yuuuuum :D :D

 :::D :::D O0
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: Boeregeneraal on November 04, 2007, 07:14:55 AM
Still....a YES or No question.

hahaha yes

Maryjoe, want some Brazillia Mayonaise?
It was designed by a black....yuuuuum :D :D

 :::D :::D O0

Love your pic Slav  O0

German Shephards are damn fine dogs! ;)
In fact, their my favourite breed :)
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: Mstislav on November 04, 2007, 07:23:29 AM
Still....a YES or No question.

hahaha yes

Maryjoe, want some Brazillia Mayonaise?
It was designed by a black....yuuuuum :D :D

 :::D :::D O0

Love your pic Slav  O0

German Shephards are damn fine dogs! ;)
In fact, their my favourite breed :)

Thank you. German Shepherds are my favourite breed as well.
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: The Shadow on November 04, 2007, 07:31:58 AM
MaryJoe:  The people on this forum have asked you ten times to answer the question, but ten times you have avoided the question and thrown insuts at us.

     Here's the question one more time:  Why does your black inventors list claim that the aircondtioner was invented by a black man, when in fact, the first airconditioner  was invented and patented by Carrier, who was a white man.  (When I discovered this lie, which only took a minute) , it caused me to doubt everything the blacks claim.  I mean everything!   Mr. Carrier, the real inventor of the aircondtioner is turning  over in his grave and screaming, "I invented the air conditioner and patented it."  
     You owe Mr. Carrier and his family an apology, a sincere apology in writing.  And you owe us an apology in writing as well,  for hurling insults, for simply discovering a lie about an inventor. All we have done is ask you to answer a question.  Answer the question, or you will lose the respect of thewonderful  people of the Jewish Task Force.
     PS: I want to contact the Carrier family letting them know that a black inventors list is claiming that Mr. Carrier did not invent the first airconditioner.  Please send me the source of your list so I may forward it to the Carrier family, and they can take appropriate action.
  
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: cjd on November 04, 2007, 07:44:39 AM
We have to have some compassion for people like maryjoe. All the revisionist crap on the web and in the newer publications is really playing havoc with uninformed peoples minds. This is what the revisionist are hopping for. As is said " Say it often enough and soon even the biggest lie will become a fact" .
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: The Shadow on November 04, 2007, 07:52:17 AM
We have to have some compassion for people like maryjoe. All the revisionist crap on the web and in the newer publications is really playing havoc with uninformed peoples minds. This is what the revisionist are hopping for. As is said " Say it often enough and soon even the biggest lie will become a fact" .

I disagree, MaryJoe needs to answer and apologize
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: Boeregeneraal on November 04, 2007, 07:54:22 AM
I had shephards while in South Africa.
Damn fine dogs! I love them sooooo much  :)
Smart and loving to name a few.

But then, I had to give her away...(when coming to australia)  :'( :'( :'( . My  Sasha

Good dogs to use in the military as well ;)
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: Mstislav on November 04, 2007, 07:57:43 AM
I had shephards while in South Africa.
Damn fine dogs! I love them sooooo much  :)
Smart and loving to name a few.

But then, I had to give her away...(when coming to australia)  :'( :'( :'( . My  Sasha

Good dogs to use in the military as well ;)

Excellent for putting a muslim into a pen with them. They will make short work of the muzzie. It is too bad you had to give away your dog. Is she a guard dog?
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: Boeregeneraal on November 04, 2007, 08:02:31 AM
I had shephards while in South Africa.
Damn fine dogs! I love them sooooo much  :)
Smart and loving to name a few.

But then, I had to give her away...(when coming to australia)  :'( :'( :'( . My  Sasha

Good dogs to use in the military as well ;)

Excellent for putting a muslim into a pen with them. They will make short work of the muzzie. It is too bad you had to give away your dog. Is she a guard dog?

In south africa, ALL dogs are guard dogs hahaha  ;D ;D

She was the best dog i ever had! Loyal as can be!
Initially, i got her when she was about 3yrs old from the pound (SPCA). We had 3 cats and 1 other dog. Fit right into the family  :) NEVER fought with the cats. In fact, they were best of friends.

I would like to get me a Shephard here in ausralia, but i tell you, dogs are VEEEERY expensive. Hell, it's a luxury  ;D ;D $1500 for a shephard!


Say, are you in the army Slav?
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: newman on November 04, 2007, 08:09:04 AM
I had shephards while in South Africa.
Damn fine dogs! I love them sooooo much  :)
Smart and loving to name a few.

But then, I had to give her away...(when coming to australia)  :'( :'( :'( . My  Sasha

Good dogs to use in the military as well ;)

Excellent for putting a muslim into a pen with them. They will make short work of the muzzie. It is too bad you had to give away your dog. Is she a guard dog?

In south africa, ALL dogs are guard dogs hahaha  ;D ;D

She was the best dog i ever had! Loyal as can be!
Initially, i got her when she was about 3yrs old from the pound (SPCA). We had 3 cats and 1 other dog. Fit right into the family  :) NEVER fought with the cats. In fact, they were best of friends.

I would like to get me a Shephard here in ausralia, but i tell you, dogs are VEEEERY expensive. Hell, it's a luxury  ;D ;D $1500 for a shephard!


Say, are you in the army Slav?

You have to pay good money for European stock. Local shepherds are inbred and schizoid in Australia. Even more so with dobermans.
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: Boeregeneraal on November 04, 2007, 08:17:18 AM
actually, ALL breeds in australia are priced waaaaay to high!

even some triple crossed  ;D dog can cost you about $150!
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: newman on November 04, 2007, 08:20:16 AM
actually, ALL breeds in australia are priced waaaaay to high!

even some triple crossed  ;D dog can cost you about $150!

They've banned all the blood sports but I'd love to set two dobermans on an arab. That would be a great way to spend an afternoon.
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: Boeregeneraal on November 04, 2007, 08:25:32 AM
actually, ALL breeds in australia are priced waaaaay to high!

even some triple crossed  ;D dog can cost you about $150!

They've banned all the blood sports but I'd love to set two dobermans on an arab. That would be a great way to spend an afternoon.

hahaha yes. German ingenuity at it's finest ;)

Haha, we should come up with a pig/dog breed, and donate them to the IDF  :D :D
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: newman on November 04, 2007, 08:33:01 AM
actually, ALL breeds in australia are priced waaaaay to high!

even some triple crossed  ;D dog can cost you about $150!

They've banned all the blood sports but I'd love to set two dobermans on an arab. That would be a great way to spend an afternoon.

hahaha yes. German ingenuity at it's finest ;)

Haha, we should come up with a pig/dog breed, and donate them to the IDF  :D :D

Yes.

Doberman height, Rottweiler weight, Bull terrier's locking jaw, fox terrier's fearlessness! That would be a good dog for the forces of Kahanist Israel to 'persuade' the arabs to leave now, wouldn't it?
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: Boeregeneraal on November 04, 2007, 08:41:45 AM
actually, ALL breeds in australia are priced waaaaay to high!

even some triple crossed  ;D dog can cost you about $150!

They've banned all the blood sports but I'd love to set two dobermans on an arab. That would be a great way to spend an afternoon.

hahaha yes. German ingenuity at it's finest ;)

Haha, we should come up with a pig/dog breed, and donate them to the IDF  :D :D

Yes.

Doberman height, Rottweiler weight, Bull terrier's locking jaw, fox terrier's fearlessness! That would be a good dog for the forces of Kahanist Israel to 'persuade' the arabs to leave now, wouldn't it?

haha ja.

Add in some Loyalty and brains (Shephard and Labrador)
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: Daniel on November 04, 2007, 10:28:54 AM
How about these?

http://www.littleafrica.com/resources/inventors.htm
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: maryjoe on November 04, 2007, 01:57:02 PM
There's nothing wrong with disliking something that you know is evil.  The evil inclination has to do with the way most blacks choose to behave.  Sorry, you're losing in every facet of your argument, maryjoe. 
You hate blacks good or bad that is evil. anyone that says anything good about blacks is attack here. if you guys lived in Israel you would attack black Jews.
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: Daniel on November 04, 2007, 01:58:51 PM
There's nothing wrong with disliking something that you know is evil.  The evil inclination has to do with the way most blacks choose to behave.  Sorry, you're losing in every facet of your argument, maryjoe. 
You hate blacks good or bad that is evil. anyone that says anything good about blacks is attack here. if you guys lived in Israel you would attack black Jews.

While I disagree with the ways in which many posters attack blacks on here, I have to disagree with your assertion that these same people would attack black Jews in Israel.
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: judeanoncapta on November 04, 2007, 01:59:44 PM
But Mary Joe,  your list said a black man invented the air conditioner, when in fact it was a white man, named Carrier who was the first one to invent it and patent it
you guys get very upset when good things are said about black people. are you sure you guys are not racist? maybe you are in denial.

Of course, we're racists.

You're not very quick on the uptake, are you, maryjoe?
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: Daniel on November 04, 2007, 02:03:16 PM
But Mary Joe,  your list said a black man invented the air conditioner, when in fact it was a white man, named Carrier who was the first one to invent it and patent it
you guys get very upset when good things are said about black people. are you sure you guys are not racist? maybe you are in denial.

Of course, we're racists.

You're not very quick on the uptake, are you, maryjoe?

I hope you're joking here.
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: judeanoncapta on November 04, 2007, 02:04:57 PM
Joking?

I'm just honest.

I don't like blacks. I'm not comfortable around them and neither is anyone that I know.

Don't hate me for honesty.
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: maryjoe on November 04, 2007, 02:07:01 PM
Joking?

I'm just honest.

I don't like blacks. I'm not comfortable around them and neither is anyone that I know.

Don't hate me for honesty.
This is proof that many members of jtf are EREV RAV or false Noahides. Racism is not part of the Torah!
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: The Shadow on November 04, 2007, 02:07:50 PM
Judea:  You make a good point!  And your honest, too.  I don't fault you, I give you credit for speaking the truth.
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: judeanoncapta on November 04, 2007, 02:11:00 PM
Joking?

I'm just honest.

I don't like blacks. I'm not comfortable around them and neither is anyone that I know.

Don't hate me for honesty.
This is proof that many members of jtf are EREV RAV or false Noahides. Racism is not part of the Torah!

Racism is not part of the Torah!!!!!!!!!

You have to be crazy.

Blacks are a cursed race.

Canaan and all of the chldren of Ham were cursed to be slaves of slaves.

There is even a Midrash talking about how Canaan's face turned black and his hair turned into wool.

You have to be joking.
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: Daniel on November 04, 2007, 02:12:11 PM
Joking?

I'm just honest.

I don't like blacks. I'm not comfortable around them and neither is anyone that I know.

Don't hate me for honesty.
This is proof that many members of jtf are EREV RAV or false Noahides. Racism is not part of the Torah!

Racism is not part of the Torah!!!!!!!!!

You have to be crazy.

Blacks are a cursed race.

Canaan and all of the chldren of Ham were cursed to be slaves of slaves.

There is even a Midrash talking about how Canaan's face turned black and his hair turned into wool.

You have to be joking.

Even Chaim would disagree with you about this. It's not about race. It's about culture!
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: judeanoncapta on November 04, 2007, 02:12:25 PM
maryjoe, you have not studied that much of the Torah that you claim to speak for, have you?
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: judeanoncapta on November 04, 2007, 02:15:34 PM
Maimonides, the Rambam says that Sub-Saharan blacks are mid-way between humans and monkeys.

And that's a fact, maryjoe.

Look it up.

Racism is not part of the Torah?!?!?!?!

maryjoe, you wouldnt a Torah concept if you tripped over one.
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: judeanoncapta on November 04, 2007, 02:19:52 PM
I beleive it was in a letter he wrote to a Hakham.
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: Daniel on November 04, 2007, 02:22:30 PM
Yes, where does the Rambam say that? That's certainly putting us in an extremely negative light by stating something like this!

Also, I guess I wouldn't know a Jewish concept if I tripped over one myself. Just where in the Torah does it state that racism is a necessary Jewish concept??? I'm not talking about "chosen people" either. I'm talking about being racist against certain races because of the color of their skin and engaging in stereotyping and racial epithets? Just where exactly in the torah does it command me to engage in such behaviors?
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: maryjoe on November 04, 2007, 02:23:32 PM
I beleive it was in a letter he wrote to a Hakham.
If black people are cursed then what about black Jews  in Israel? do you dislike them too? Are you Jewish? and what about black Noahides. I think you lack Torah understanding.
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: maryjoe on November 04, 2007, 02:53:48 PM
I beleive it was in a letter he wrote to a Hakham.
If black people are cursed then what about black Jews  in Israel? do you dislike them too? Are you Jewish? and what about black Noahides. I think you lack Torah understanding.

All blacks have the opportunity to be righteous. Black Jews are Jews, they are not cursed; they have the Covenant. Black Noahides are one example of righteous blacks. Blacks were cursed to be enslaved and always have the slave mentality, but that doesn't mean they can't be righteous. I personally know some great (non-Jewish) black people whom I have complete respect for. The Torah says that everyone has free will to choose good and evil, and that includes even those with the inclination to do evil.
you are not making sense you say black Jews are Jews they are not cursed. then you say blacks are cursed. my friend black is black. the fact is no black is cursed. you just want to believe it so.
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: maryjoe on November 04, 2007, 03:04:49 PM
you are not making sense you say black Jews are Jews they are not cursed. then you say blacks are cursed. my friend black is black. the fact is no black is cursed. you just want to believe it so.

I am making sense. All Jews all blessed with the Covenant from haShem; that's the spiritual reality. Jews who convert are automatically considered children of Abraham. It was the descendants of Canaan that were cursed, but again, that doesn't stop them from having the potential to counteract the curse and be wonderful individuals. G-d also said that Ishmael, father of Arabs, would be a wild donkey of a man making war with everyone around him, but Ishmael himself ended up being a rightous man.
Oh so the color black is not cursed just a certain group of people.
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: judeanoncapta on November 04, 2007, 03:05:38 PM
The vast majority of Ethiopian Jews are NOT Jewish.


Very few of them converted when they came and their claims to actually being Jewish are laughable.
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: judeanoncapta on November 04, 2007, 03:08:23 PM
you are not making sense you say black Jews are Jews they are not cursed. then you say blacks are cursed. my friend black is black. the fact is no black is cursed. you just want to believe it so.

I am making sense. All Jews all blessed with the Covenant from haShem; that's the spiritual reality. Jews who convert are automatically considered children of Abraham. It was the descendants of Canaan that were cursed, but again, that doesn't stop them from having the potential to counteract the curse and be wonderful individuals. G-d also said that Ishmael, father of Arabs, would be a wild donkey of a man making war with everyone around him, but Ishmael himself ended up being a rightous man.
Oh so the color black is not cursed just a certain group of people.

Sure, indians and aboriginals have black skin but they're not cursed.

Just Sub-Saharan Africans who are all dying of starvation and AIDS which apparently are not curses in maryjoe's mindset.
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: maryjoe on November 04, 2007, 03:11:02 PM
you are not making sense you say black Jews are Jews they are not cursed. then you say blacks are cursed. my friend black is black. the fact is no black is cursed. you just want to believe it so.

I am making sense. All Jews all blessed with the Covenant from haShem; that's the spiritual reality. Jews who convert are automatically considered children of Abraham. It was the descendants of Canaan that were cursed, but again, that doesn't stop them from having the potential to counteract the curse and be wonderful individuals. G-d also said that Ishmael, father of Arabs, would be a wild donkey of a man making war with everyone around him, but Ishmael himself ended up being a rightous man.
Oh so the color black is not cursed just a certain group of people.

Sure, indians and aboriginals have black skin but they're not cursed.

Just Sub-Saharan Africans who are all dying of starvation and AIDS which apparently are not curses in maryjoe's mindset.
don'tforget the black Jews who are african who are not cursed!
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: Ehud on November 04, 2007, 03:31:50 PM
Let's get back to the point at hand.  Trying to use as evidence, the denial of false claims by black apologists or affirmative action propagandists, as proof of racism is ridiculous.  Refusing to believe lies perpetrated by manipulative blacks has nothing to do with racism. 

There are many groups of people who I dislike who I can admit invented great things. 

I despise Islamic culture, but I can admit that during the golden age of Islam, Muslims invented many things and contributed towards knowledge in general.

I despise 19th-20th century German society, but I can admit that they invented many things, some of which were used for evil, but nevertheless I can admit that they created inventions and made progress.

Why would you even expect us to listen to you after you tried to feed us all those lies, without even taking a minimal effort at finding out the truth?  You obviously have corrupted motives.  Do you believe everything that people tell you, or are you so willing to believe that blacks are intelligent as everyone else that you are willing to ignore reality and silence all reason? 
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: maryjoe on November 04, 2007, 03:35:58 PM
The vast majority of Ethiopian Jews are NOT Jewish.


Very few of them converted when they came and their claims to actually being Jewish are laughable.
So you don't like black Jews living in Israel?
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: Ehud on November 04, 2007, 03:39:23 PM
The vast majority of Ethiopian Jews are NOT Jewish.


Very few of them converted when they came and their claims to actually being Jewish are laughable.
So you don't like black Jews living in Israel?

Who says they're actually Jews though?  You're presupposing that, again, without evidence, or with evidence that has been manipulated in some way. 

The ones who have gone through legitimate conversions are of course Jews, but how do you know they have all had one?  Where do you get your information from? 
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: maryjoe on November 04, 2007, 03:41:23 PM
The vast majority of Ethiopian Jews are NOT Jewish.


Very few of them converted when they came and their claims to actually being Jewish are laughable.
So you don't like black Jews living in Israel?

Who says they're actually Jews though?  You're presupposing that, again, without evidence, or with evidence that has been manipulated in some way. 
Be careful first you hate black jews and then white Jews.
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: Ari on November 04, 2007, 03:41:56 PM
I heard they invented the peanut, but I don't know how you invent one of G-d's creations.
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: judeanoncapta on November 04, 2007, 03:43:51 PM
The vast majority of Ethiopian Jews are NOT Jewish.


Very few of them converted when they came and their claims to actually being Jewish are laughable.
So you don't like black Jews living in Israel?

They're not Jewish, genius.

So, no. I don't like fake Jews there.
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: Ehud on November 04, 2007, 03:45:34 PM
The vast majority of Ethiopian Jews are NOT Jewish.


Very few of them converted when they came and their claims to actually being Jewish are laughable.
So you don't like black Jews living in Israel?

Who says they're actually Jews though?  You're presupposing that, again, without evidence, or with evidence that has been manipulated in some way. 
Be careful first you hate black jews and then white Jews.

No, I don't hate black Jews, I'm just debating you to get you to realize that you really know nothing because you aren't informed enough to have these conversations. 

I don't know if most Ethiopian Israelis are Jews or not, but neither do you.  You should at least be open to the possibility that the ones who haven't gone through conversions aren't Jews at all.  It is certainly possible.  For you to deny that is very close-minded, especially when you don't have the facts on your side. 

You seem to believe everything you hear with absolute faith, and that is a dangerous way to acquire information.
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: Ehud on November 04, 2007, 03:46:11 PM
The vast majority of Ethiopian Jews are NOT Jewish.


Very few of them converted when they came and their claims to actually being Jewish are laughable.
So you don't like black Jews living in Israel?

They're not Jewish, genius.

So, no. I don't like fake Jews there.

I think maryjoe is an affirmative action person.  I'm definitely getting that Erica vibe from her, MMM HMM!!
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: maryjoe on November 04, 2007, 03:50:43 PM
The vast majority of Ethiopian Jews are NOT Jewish.


Very few of them converted when they came and their claims to actually being Jewish are laughable.
So you don't like black Jews living in Israel?

Who says they're actually Jews though?  You're presupposing that, again, without evidence, or with evidence that has been manipulated in some way. 
Be careful first you hate black jews and then white Jews.

No, I don't hate black Jews, I'm just debating you to get you to realize that you really know nothing because you aren't informed enough to have these conversations. 

I don't know if most Ethiopian Israelis are Jews or not, but neither do you.  You should at least be open to the possibility that the ones who haven't gone through conversions aren't Jews at all.  It is certainly possible.  For you to deny that is very close-minded, especially when you don't have the facts on your side. 

You seem to believe everything you hear with absolute faith, and that is a dangerous way to acquire information.
well let us talk about the black Jews in Israel that you say are really Jews, they are black and african. . so the color black is not cursed right?
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: Ehud on November 04, 2007, 03:53:53 PM
The vast majority of Ethiopian Jews are NOT Jewish.


Very few of them converted when they came and their claims to actually being Jewish are laughable.
So you don't like black Jews living in Israel?

Who says they're actually Jews though?  You're presupposing that, again, without evidence, or with evidence that has been manipulated in some way. 
Be careful first you hate black jews and then white Jews.

No, I don't hate black Jews, I'm just debating you to get you to realize that you really know nothing because you aren't informed enough to have these conversations. 

I don't know if most Ethiopian Israelis are Jews or not, but neither do you.  You should at least be open to the possibility that the ones who haven't gone through conversions aren't Jews at all.  It is certainly possible.  For you to deny that is very close-minded, especially when you don't have the facts on your side. 

You seem to believe everything you hear with absolute faith, and that is a dangerous way to acquire information.
well let us talk about the black Jews in Israel that you say are really Jews, they are black and african. . so the color black is not cursed right?

I don't think the color black is cursed at all.  Skin color doesn't matter to me at all.  There are many fantastic people who are black, like some Indians, and some blacks.  I don't believe in the Biblical curses, but I do believe that American blacks and African blacks have cursed themselves very severely.  This has absolutely nothing to do with their skin color.   
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: AmericanLatino on November 04, 2007, 08:18:40 PM
This reminds me of a good friend of mine that happens to be Black.  I remember she'd from time to time always make a point to say that a black person wrote 'The Rock' - the movie starring Sean Connery.. or a black person invented the modern street light - red/yellow/green.

Even if these things are true it's just so tacky to even say it - especially to people you don't even know.  What does this prove?  If it were true that a black man invented the traffic signal (which it is NOT by the way), what does this prove?  Does this make all blacks automatic geniuses?  This alone should be a wake-up call to intellectual blacks that if they need to defends their own race in this way then there is something seriously wrong with the image that most Americans have of black peoople, and you need to look at other methods of fixing the problem - at least in your own circle of friends/family.



Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: maryjoe on November 04, 2007, 08:45:06 PM
This reminds me of a good friend of mine that happens to be Black.  I remember she'd from time to time always make a point to say that a black person wrote 'The Rock' - the movie starring Sean Connery.. or a black person invented the modern street light - red/yellow/green.

Even if these things are true it's just so tacky to even say it - especially to people you don't even know.  What does this prove?  If it were true that a black man invented the traffic signal (which it is NOT by the way), what does this prove?  Does this make all blacks automatic geniuses?  This alone should be a wake-up call to intellectual blacks that if they need to defends their own race in this way then there is something seriously wrong with the image that most Americans have of black peoople, and you need to look at other methods of fixing the problem - at least in your own circle of friends/family.




American latino what country is your famliy from. Pureto rico, mexico, please tell me and do not be a shame. 
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: maryjoe on November 04, 2007, 09:21:00 PM
American latino what country is your family from. Pureto rico, mexico, please tell me and do not be a shame. 
Great, NOW you're going to pick on him!
[/quote]what is wrong with the question? White people have pride in their race. Why shouldn't he?
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: maryjoe on November 04, 2007, 09:38:19 PM
I'm just saying, who cares what his ancestry is! As long as he's a righteous Genitle.
 He doesn't have to answer it either and I hope he doesn't because trolls don't deserve for JTF members to feed their curiosity. And why don't you ask White posters what ancestry is...are they: Irish, English, German etc... everyone has an ancestry too, why pick on someone with "Latino" on their user name?
Also, did you already answer the question about the inventor of the air conditioner that EVERYONE has been asking you aout? Carrier was white? Yes or NO
What a hypocrite. people here trash black people  all the time. Only because they are black and you get upset because I question a person who seems racist. How about making this forum a true righteous forum. not offending any race. and focusing just on the Torah.
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: Daniel on November 04, 2007, 11:03:20 PM
The vast majority of Ethiopian Jews are NOT Jewish.


Very few of them converted when they came and their claims to actually being Jewish are laughable.
So you don't like black Jews living in Israel?

They're not Jewish, genius.

So, no. I don't like fake Jews there.

I think maryjoe is an affirmative action person.  I'm definitely getting that Erica vibe from her, MMM HMM!!

I don't think so. maryjoe seems to have a bit more of a grasp on Judaism and Israel.
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: Daniel on November 04, 2007, 11:25:00 PM
Let's get back to the point at hand.  Trying to use as evidence, the denial of false claims by black apologists or affirmative action propagandists, as proof of racism is ridiculous.  Refusing to believe lies perpetrated by manipulative blacks has nothing to do with racism. 

There are many groups of people who I dislike who I can admit invented great things. 

I despise Islamic culture, but I can admit that during the golden age of Islam, Muslims invented many things and contributed towards knowledge in general.

I despise 19th-20th century German society, but I can admit that they invented many things, some of which were used for evil, but nevertheless I can admit that they created inventions and made progress.

Why would you even expect us to listen to you after you tried to feed us all those lies, without even taking a minimal effort at finding out the truth?  You obviously have corrupted motives.  Do you believe everything that people tell you, or are you so willing to believe that blacks are intelligent as everyone else that you are willing to ignore reality and silence all reason? 

Do you have any proof that blacks have an inferior cerebral cortex in comparison to other races? If not, then that means that blacks have the same potential for intelligence and success and that if they fail or engage in evil behavior, it's not due to lack of intelligence, it's due to them not using their intelligence wisely which is caused more by culture and environment.
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: aggressi0n on November 04, 2007, 11:29:34 PM
I feel as if I'm reading a post on StørmFrønt.
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: Daniel on November 04, 2007, 11:34:13 PM
I feel as if I'm reading a post on StørmFrønt.

The comparison is very disconcerting. But unfortunately, it's also very true.
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: Joe Schmo on November 04, 2007, 11:53:12 PM
I feel as if I'm reading a post on StørmFrønt.

You must know a lot about StørmFrønt.
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: The Shadow on November 04, 2007, 11:56:19 PM
I feel as if I'm reading a post on StørmFrønt.

The comparison is very disconcerting. But unfortunately, it's also very true.

Daniel- Stifle yourself.
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: Joe Schmo on November 04, 2007, 11:57:24 PM
I feel as if I'm reading a post on StørmFrønt.

You must know a lot about StørmFrønt.

Why do the Os aquire those slashes through them when you write the word s-t-o-r-m-f-r-o-n-t?  I used normal Os and they turned out Swedish!

What difference does it make?  Why do they have to be changed?
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: The Shadow on November 05, 2007, 12:08:35 AM
Størm Frønt is a bunch of loser, homosexual Nazis.  I mean really, they dig guys.
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: Joe Schmo on November 05, 2007, 12:12:00 AM
Størm Frønt is a bunch of loser, homosexual Nazis.  I mean really, they dig guys.

I know nothing about Størm Frønt.  I have literally NEVER visited their website.
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: Joe Schmo on November 05, 2007, 12:13:05 AM
Størm Frønt is a bunch of loser, homosexual Nazis.  I mean really, they dig guys.

I know nothing about Størm Frønt.  I have literally NEVER visited their website.

Man, those slashes through the Os are really bugging me.  What is the reason for this?
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: Mstislav on November 05, 2007, 12:41:47 AM
I had shephards while in South Africa.
Damn fine dogs! I love them sooooo much  :)
Smart and loving to name a few.

But then, I had to give her away...(when coming to australia)  :'( :'( :'( . My  Sasha

Good dogs to use in the military as well ;)

Excellent for putting a muslim into a pen with them. They will make short work of the muzzie. It is too bad you had to give away your dog. Is she a guard dog?

In south africa, ALL dogs are guard dogs hahaha  ;D ;D

She was the best dog i ever had! Loyal as can be!
Initially, i got her when she was about 3yrs old from the pound (SPCA). We had 3 cats and 1 other dog. Fit right into the family  :) NEVER fought with the cats. In fact, they were best of friends.

I would like to get me a Shephard here in ausralia, but i tell you, dogs are VEEEERY expensive. Hell, it's a luxury  ;D ;D $1500 for a shephard!


Say, are you in the army Slav?

 ;D I can imagine why all dogs in South Africa are guard dogs. The schvartzas there are completly uncivilised and act exactly like muslims. Even apes are civilised compared to them. No I am not in the army. They will never take me even if I apply. I will not adhere to P.C rules of engagement. Why do you ask?
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: Mstislav on November 05, 2007, 12:43:47 AM
actually, ALL breeds in australia are priced waaaaay to high!

even some triple crossed  ;D dog can cost you about $150!

They've banned all the blood sports but I'd love to set two dobermans on an arab. That would be a great way to spend an afternoon.

I would love to sit back with a glass of the finest Irish brandy watching an arab, especially one from the gulf, getting torn apart by dobermans.
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: Ehud on November 05, 2007, 12:47:56 AM
Let's get back to the point at hand.  Trying to use as evidence, the denial of false claims by black apologists or affirmative action propagandists, as proof of racism is ridiculous.  Refusing to believe lies perpetrated by manipulative blacks has nothing to do with racism. 

There are many groups of people who I dislike who I can admit invented great things. 

I despise Islamic culture, but I can admit that during the golden age of Islam, Muslims invented many things and contributed towards knowledge in general.

I despise 19th-20th century German society, but I can admit that they invented many things, some of which were used for evil, but nevertheless I can admit that they created inventions and made progress.

Why would you even expect us to listen to you after you tried to feed us all those lies, without even taking a minimal effort at finding out the truth?  You obviously have corrupted motives.  Do you believe everything that people tell you, or are you so willing to believe that blacks are intelligent as everyone else that you are willing to ignore reality and silence all reason? 

Do you have any proof that blacks have an inferior cerebral cortex in comparison to other races? If not, then that means that blacks have the same potential for intelligence and success and that if they fail or engage in evil behavior, it's not due to lack of intelligence, it's due to them not using their intelligence wisely which is caused more by culture and environment.

Actually blacks in general have smaller brain weight and brain size in general.  They also perform significantly lower on every measurable test that we have, including every IQ test, SATs, LSATs, GMAT, standardized tests, elementary through college GPAs.  There's plenty of evidence backing it up. 

To compare this to the obvious lies that black apologists spread about supposed "black inventions" is ridiculous. 
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: Mstislav on November 05, 2007, 12:56:07 AM
There are many groups of people who I dislike who I can admit invented great things. 
I despise Islamic culture, but I can admit that during the golden age of Islam, Muslims invented many things and contributed towards knowledge in general.

The islamic invaders claimed the acheivements of of the cultures and peoples they overran and conquered. Some people who converted to islam under force continued with their works which would have gotten them killed today. The authorities did not persecute them as they themselves did not want to be muslim.
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: Boeregeneraal on November 05, 2007, 01:52:05 AM
hey  maryjoe.......im black!
So im your friend ok, now tell me more about my "black" brother Carrier, and the great black inventions eh?  :) :) :)
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: Mstislav on November 05, 2007, 01:56:18 AM
hey  maryjoe.......im black!
So im your friend ok, now tell me more about my "black" brother Carrier, and the great black inventions eh?  :) :) :)

 ;D
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: Boeregeneraal on November 05, 2007, 06:15:20 AM
Hey Slav

the reason I asked is because of your great signature O0

I was hoping you are actually in the Special Forces, and give us fresh blood some tips? ;)
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: Bodhi on November 05, 2007, 05:19:03 PM
 Come on now......there are some valuable contributions that black inventors have made, for example peanut butter...... O0 8;)

  I'm sure there are others.....besides affirmative action....but I seriously like peanut butter....where would we be without Reses pieces??
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: judeanoncapta on November 05, 2007, 09:49:49 PM
True, blacks invented peanut butter.

Although I would say it's overkill if we spent a whole month praising the white guys who invented Ketchup, mustard, mayo and relish.
Title: Re: You know what, Chaim was right about black inventors
Post by: Hail Columbia on November 05, 2007, 09:54:17 PM
http://www33.brinkster.com/iiiii/inventions/

Peanut Butter
George Washington Carver (who began his peanut research in 1903)? No!

Peanuts, which are native to the New World tropics, were mashed into paste by Aztecs hundreds of years ago. Evidence of modern peanut butter comes from US patent #306727 issued to Marcellus Gilmore Edson of Montreal, Quebec in 1884, for a process of milling roasted peanuts between heated surfaces until the peanuts reached "a fluid or semi-fluid state." As the product cooled, it set into what Edson described as "a consistency like that of butter, lard, or ointment." In 1890, George A. Bayle Jr., owner of a food business in St. Louis, manufactured peanut butter and sold it out of barrels. J.H. Kellogg, of cereal fame, secured US patent #580787 in 1897 for his "Process of Preparing Nutmeal," which produced a "pasty adhesive substance" that Kellogg called "nut-butter."