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Title: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Merkava on November 05, 2007, 06:18:29 AM
I know I will get flamed by most of the members here but I want to know why there is so much hate towards homosexuals ?

I used to hate homosexuals with a passion when I was in my teens. I did so to the point that I would intimidate & make life miserable for the faggots in my school.

But then it hit me. Why do I invest so much energy hating someone that hasn't done anything to me or my people ? I just learned to accept them. I dont necessarily like them but I think they do bring out some positives:

1) The more gays the more women there are for us

2) They always have very attractive female friends

3) They are great party animals and are actually quite funny.

Don't  get me wrong. I don't particularty like them - but I accept them. Aslong as they keep it to themselves.

Why do you invest so much energy hating someone that has not done anything to you ?
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on November 05, 2007, 06:21:39 AM
I don't think they are as innocent as you think.

They cut child births greatly - and we all know what happens then.

They brake the Commandments

etc
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Ambiorix on November 05, 2007, 06:25:32 AM
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The more gays the more women there are for us
The less woman for our sons , you mean
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on November 05, 2007, 06:34:27 AM
But in the end, women are left out, and in tern, could become homo as well

But more importantly, a large decline in newborns
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: raiseyourfist on November 05, 2007, 06:35:25 AM
i  dont have a problem with anyone's opinions on anything unless it is detrimentally affecting me or other like minded people... Homo's are in your face about the stuff they get up to which is going against the word of G-d.

Both Christianity and Judaism appose gays

BUT ISLAM PERMITS IT... i can see why ;D
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Kiwi on November 05, 2007, 06:39:02 AM
I don't agree with their lifestyle, but I would work along side them as I do, fair easier than a mullah.
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: newman on November 05, 2007, 06:41:28 AM
Most of us couldn't give a hoot about gays if they confined their activities to their private homes and their campaign for rights ended 20 years ago when sodomy was decriminalised.

What infuriates us about fags is the radical fag lobby. They're not satisfied with the rights they have. They make more and more outrageous demands.

Demanding gay marriage.
Demanding the right to adopt children
Demanding the Red Cross accepts their blood
Demanding the right to address jnr highschoolers and give "OK to be gay" lectures
Publishing childrens books with gay thenes.......

It goes on and on.

Every group has the right to be left alone. NOBODY has the right to demand acceptance. If they let up. we'd leave them be. But they insist on getting political and having laws drafted that destroy our culture, so they're in the firing line.
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on November 05, 2007, 06:45:15 AM
it's a disease!

I believe EVERYONE here would like a cure for diseases from cancer to Asthma.

It's un-human to allow a disease to run wild. There is a solution to this disease (and no, im not talking about a bullet :D ) , and if it's not stopped, it will continue spreading!
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Ambiorix on November 05, 2007, 06:51:34 AM
it's a disease!

I believe EVERYONE here would like a cure for diseases from cancer to Asthma.

It's un-human to allow a disease to run wild. There is a solution to this disease (and no, im not talking about a bullet :D ) , and if it's not stopped, it will continue spreading!

Can  chemists produce a H&L-virus that only affects 3d world people & muslim-nazis?
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: newman on November 05, 2007, 06:54:03 AM
it's a disease!

I believe EVERYONE here would like a cure for diseases from cancer to Asthma.

It's un-human to allow a disease to run wild. There is a solution to this disease (and no, im not talking about a bullet :D ) , and if it's not stopped, it will continue spreading!

Can  chemists produce a H&L-virus that only affects 3d world people & muslim-nazis?

I'm sure that with DNA research they'll find something that only attacks arabs and persians. Let it be soon.
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Ambiorix on November 05, 2007, 06:57:20 AM
it's a disease!

I believe EVERYONE here would like a cure for diseases from cancer to Asthma.

It's un-human to allow a disease to run wild. There is a solution to this disease (and no, im not talking about a bullet :D ) , and if it's not stopped, it will continue spreading!

Can  chemists produce a H&L-virus that only affects 3d world people & muslim-nazis?

I'm sure that with DNA research they'll find something that only attacks arabs and persians. Let it be soon.

I mean , if some magic wizard can turn them all in gays for a century or so, ...
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on November 05, 2007, 06:58:19 AM
it's a disease!

I believe EVERYONE here would like a cure for diseases from cancer to Asthma.

It's un-human to allow a disease to run wild. There is a solution to this disease (and no, im not talking about a bullet :D ) , and if it's not stopped, it will continue spreading!

Can  chemists produce a H&L-virus that only affects 3d world people & muslim-nazis?

I'm sure that with DNA research they'll find something that only attacks arabs and persians. Let it be soon.

Newman, that technology has been researched loooong ago.

In fact, somewhere in Israel, are biological units, that only target designated DNA patterns.

In fact, South Africa and Israel work on this technology together.

SA has the same thing, only to target blacks
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: newman on November 05, 2007, 07:00:59 AM
it's a disease!

I believe EVERYONE here would like a cure for diseases from cancer to Asthma.

It's un-human to allow a disease to run wild. There is a solution to this disease (and no, im not talking about a bullet :D ) , and if it's not stopped, it will continue spreading!

Can  chemists produce a H&L-virus that only affects 3d world people & muslim-nazis?

I'm sure that with DNA research they'll find something that only attacks arabs and persians. Let it be soon.

Newman, that technology has been researched loooong ago.

In fact, somewhere in Israel, are biological units, that only target designated DNA patterns.

In fact, South Africa and Israel work on this technology together.

SA has the same thing, only to target blacks

Then what the devil are we all waiting for?

Lets exterminate the arabs, thin out the tree dwellers and adjust the Red chinese to a more managable population.
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on November 05, 2007, 07:04:36 AM
 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

The white south africans, as always were too damned good harted  :-\

Israel got overun by liberals  :-\

sigh

one day...
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Merkava on November 05, 2007, 07:18:36 AM
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Demanding gay marriage.
Thats wrong
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Demanding the right to adopt children
Noooooooo.....that will confuse the child and its sick
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Demanding the Red Cross accepts their blood
I think any blood that doesn't carry any diseases should be welcome. Nothing wrong with this
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Demanding the right to address jnr highschoolers and give "OK to be gay" lectures
Hmmm....it depends to what extent
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Publishing childrens books with gay thenes.......
No, no , no ,no.......Imagine a gay version of Cinderella
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: newman on November 05, 2007, 07:28:14 AM
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Demanding gay marriage.
Thats wrong
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Demanding the right to adopt children
Noooooooo.....that will confuse the child and its sick
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Demanding the Red Cross accepts their blood
I think any blood that doesn't carry any diseases should be welcome. Nothing wrong with this
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Demanding the right to address jnr highschoolers and give "OK to be gay" lectures
Hmmm....it depends to what extent
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Publishing childrens books with gay thenes.......
No, no , no ,no.......Imagine a gay version of Cinderella

Blood from high-risk donors such as drug addicts, sex-workers and gays is not taken in the first place. That's just good, standard medical practice, not biggotry on the part of blood banks. Forcing blood banks to take blood from everybody could drive away donors or leave the blood banks open to massive law suits.

As for lectures in schools. Issues of sexuality are personal matters for PARENTS to discuss with kids. School is for reading, writing and arithmetic, NOT social egineering and [censored] recruitment.
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on November 05, 2007, 07:33:29 AM
"[censored] recruitment"  :::D :::D :::D :::D :::D
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Merkava on November 05, 2007, 07:35:20 AM
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Blood from high-risk donors such as drug addicts, sex-workers and gays is not taken in the first place. That's just good, standard medical practice, not biggotry on the part of blood banks. Forcing blood banks to take blood from everybody could drive away donors or leave the blood banks open to massive law suits.

As for lectures in schools. Issues of sexuality are personal matters for PARENTS to discuss with kids. School is for reading, writing and arithmetic, NOT social egineering and [censored] recruitment.

Obviously they shouldn't take blood from junkies but you are right; taking blood from homosexuals is a big risk. HIV can be low when tested and thus undetectable so its best to keep it away from the bloodbanks. I think you are also right. Topics like this shouldn't be discussed at school.
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Dr. Dan on November 05, 2007, 07:37:00 AM
I know I will get flamed by most of the members here but I want to know why there is so much hate towards homosexuals ?

I used to hate homosexuals with a passion when I was in my teens. I did so to the point that I would intimidate & make life miserable for the faggots in my school.

But then it hit me. Why do I invest so much energy hating someone that hasn't done anything to me or my people ? I just learned to accept them. I dont necessarily like them but I think they do bring out some positives:

1) The more gays the more women there are for us

2) They always have very attractive female friends

3) They are great party animals and are actually quite funny.

Don't  get me wrong. I don't particularty like them - but I accept them. Aslong as they keep it to themselves.

Why do you invest so much energy hating someone that has not done anything to you ?


Hehehe, you said, "Flamed..."


as far as homosexuals...I prefer to just say that what they do is highly inappropriate...but all together, the ones I know and seen are very nice sweet people who couldn't harm a fly..and many are very smart and successful and make sad people happy etc etc etc...

now there are other homos who are pure evil...I'm was talking about the ones who are good otherwise.
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: raiseyourfist on November 05, 2007, 07:38:26 AM
it's a disease!

I believe EVERYONE here would like a cure for diseases from cancer to Asthma.

It's un-human to allow a disease to run wild. There is a solution to this disease (and no, im not talking about a bullet :D ) , and if it's not stopped, it will continue spreading!

Im sorry but i don't agree...

AIDS is a disease... homosexuality is simply a bi-product of this
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Merkava on November 05, 2007, 07:41:16 AM
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now there are other homos who are pure evil...I'm was talking about the ones who are good otherwise.

Well....I guess there are evil in all sexes , races, faiths and sexual orientations.
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on November 05, 2007, 07:41:34 AM
it's a disease!

I believe EVERYONE here would like a cure for diseases from cancer to Asthma.

It's un-human to allow a disease to run wild. There is a solution to this disease (and no, im not talking about a bullet :D ) , and if it's not stopped, it will continue spreading!

Im sorry but i don't agree...

AIDS is a disease... homosexuality is simply a bi-product of this

It's been proven to be a mental illness

Or did i just misunderstand your reply? lol  ::)
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Merkava on November 05, 2007, 07:45:09 AM
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It's been proven to be a mental illness

Where did you get that from ?

DOC: "The patient suffers from a mild case of homosexuality but it can be controlled"

Don't be silly ....its not a mental illness.
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Barach Velvel ben Lazer Eliazer on November 05, 2007, 04:42:43 PM
It's a mental illness. It's not natural, therefore, it's an illness.

Merkava it is obvious you are a liberal, who is a phoney and acts like he wants everybody to get along, but you just want degeneracy to run rampant, because that's the hidden ideal of liberalism. Except it's not so hidden to true right-wingers, who can see right through the left-wing's deception to their true disgusting nature and longing for disorder.

Homosexuals are selfish people, who refuse to reproduce. One of G-d's purposes for putting us here is for us to reproduce and continue the legacy of the human race.

Also, there are plenty of gay militants who cause problems for good, moral people like the church-goers in San Francisco.

Jerry Frawell was right in saying that homosexuals are a punishment from G-d.
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Merkava on November 05, 2007, 04:52:51 PM
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Merkava it is obvious you are a liberal, who is a phoney and acts like he wants everybody to get along, but you just want degeneracy to run rampant, because that's the hidden ideal of liberalism.
lol....you are one paranoid cookie. So I am a Liberal because I don't agree with 100% of what JTF says ?  Maybe you need to cut down on crack that you are smoking, its seriously impairing your judgement.

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Homosexuals are selfish people, who refuse to reproduce. One of G-d's purposes for putting us here is for us to reproduce and continue the legacy of the human race.
1. WRONG - you get some homosexual that actually marry and have kids just for the social purpose (ie parent's pressure) but still continue their habits with their spouse's consent.
2. Wake up buddy ! Planet earth is overpopulated beleive me we could do with alot of people not having kids.




Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Tzvi Ben Roshel1 on November 05, 2007, 04:58:55 PM
homosexuality is unnatural. (I know your going to say that the scientists or whatever say other wise) but, its a repulsive, unnatural act that G-d hates.


Mishkav Zachur- Homosexuality 
   
There is a Teshuvah by Rav Moshe Feinstein in Chelek 4 seman 115, which is of course Halachic but it is also Hashkafic in nature. The Rabbi was writing to a fellow who it seems was caught with his Ta’avot, in his pleasures, and had succumbed to a decadent level of Mishkav Zachur, of homosexuality. He asked the Rabbi for a little Chizuk, a little encouragement in order that he should overcome his Yetzer Hara.

So the Rabbi points out in the Teshuva a few things about this grave Avon of Mishkav Zachur. He says, not only it is punishable by Karet (death), but if there was a warning and there were proper witnesses, then it would be punishable by stoning, which is in deed the most serious punishment that our Torah imposes. It is the same punishment as Chillul Shabbat.

He says further that if you look in the Parasha of Mishkav Zachur, the word ‘Toeva’, which means abomination, is written twice. It is written more than any other of the Raayot, more than other of the illicit relations. And Rabbi Feinstein says that in the Gemara, it says that ‘Toeva’ is ‘Toe Hu Ba’. Meaning that he is making a mistake in it. He explains this as against human nature. It is a type of Avon (transgression) that is just in defiance of Bore Olam. It’s just out of anger in order to rebel against Bore Olam, because there should be no normal nature the way G-d created people to go after such a thing.

Furthermore, Rav Feinstein says that one of the ways that this can be controlled is if one will know that even by wicked people this is considered abominable. Which means certain other Avonot are accepted by society. Unfortunately we are living in a society today where it is almost becoming an acceptable lifestyle. But to most normal balanced people this is considered disgusting. Even people who are not so careful in other things, when it comes to Mishkav Zachur, it is disgusting. So if a perpetrator of such a sin remembers that and that he is disgusted by those who make such a sin, then already it might control it a little further.

The Pasuk writes in Devarim, [listen to the audio clip for the exact quote] that at the end of time they are going to anger G-d with abominations. The text reads, ‘BeToevot Yachisuhu’. Rashi says, that this refers to BeToevot Mishkav Zachur. So we see over here, as we said, it is done out of rebellion. It is done in anger of G-d, because there is no real pleasure for such a thing. It’s against human nature and it is not accepted by decent society.

Last but not least he quotes a Rambam, which says that the best way to control all passions and desires is by opening the mind up and sitting to study Torah. Just sit and learn and study in depth and go to classes and fill the mind with the study of Torah. Somehow the light of the Torah overcomes a person and is able to mitigate his base pleasures.

So again, as I said, The Torah and Halacha is clear on Mishkav Zachur. Unfortunately we have to speak about this clearly, because in society today there are those who want to pervert the Torah and say that today it doesn’t apply, and it was for then and not today, and that it is accepted today. But no, it is just as abominable today as it was 3000 years ago. It is just as much as Karet today as it was always. Although we can’t stone today, but it is still such a sin of grave nature. And for those who are crippled by this Avon, books do bring down that if Bore Olam gave a person even a tendency or weakness if that is possible, Bore Olam gave him the ability to overcome it also. Bore Olam would not give a test if the person would not have the strength to overcome it.

So either way, this Toeva must be put under control. We can not accept it certainly in society, or have tolerance. But the Rabbi did have tolerance to a person who was trying to help himself. The Rabbi did write a long letter to him as we see, to try and rehabilitate him. So there is a level, that if a person makes an effort to come back, that you deal with such a thing. But to tolerate or accept it as an alternate lifestyle, this would be contempt of the Torah.
 

http://dailyhalacha.com/displayRead.asp?readID=495&txtSearch=homosexuality  ( A Few minutes, please listin).
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Bodhi on November 05, 2007, 05:07:09 PM
i  dont have a problem with anyone's opinions on anything unless it is detrimentally affecting me or other like minded people... Homo's are in your face about the stuff they get up to which is going against the word of G-d.

Both Christianity and Judaism appose gays

BUT ISLAM PERMITS IT... i can see why ;D

  Really?  I guess it's not surprising though, Islam pretty much permits bestiality, and many unsavory things.......I personally don't hate homosexuals, I pity them and feel sorry for them and their famillies.........I think they are generally very unhappy people, but as long as they don't act unappropriately towards me, my children etc, I think it's between them and G-d. 
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Merkava on November 05, 2007, 05:11:13 PM
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I pity them and feel sorry for them and their famillies.
Me too ...I would be devastated if my son was gay
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Eliezer Ben Avraham on November 05, 2007, 07:31:43 PM
Personally, I am especially against Homosexuality for Jews, as it is explicits forbidden in the Torah, for non-Jews I recognize that it is unnatural and I encourage Righteous gentiles to fight it, but it doesn't bother me as much with non-Jews
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Tzvi Ben Roshel1 on November 05, 2007, 07:40:11 PM
Personally, I am especially against Homosexuality for Jews, as it is explicits forbidden in the Torah, for non-Jews I recognize that it is unnatural and I encourage Righteous gentiles to fight it, but it doesn't bother me as much with non-Jews

Its also not allowed for non-Jews. Its supposed to be punishible by death.
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on November 05, 2007, 07:44:39 PM
I have on an individual level befriended a couple of people who are homosexual. It is not my place to individually attack them and treat them like crap. It is very much my job to stand against their attempt to take over the nation and force everybody to believe that their bizarre, sick lifestyle is normal and great.

Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Daniel on November 05, 2007, 07:46:54 PM
But in the end, women are left out, and in tern, could become homo as well

But more importantly, a large decline in newborns

I have heard this argument many times about how this will cause a decrease in newborns. I don't think we need to worry about the human race dying out anytime soon. If the human race does die out, it's certainly not going to be caused by homosexuality. If homosexuals make up about 10 percent of the human population, there's still plenty left over to continue populating the world.
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Zionist Revolutionary on November 05, 2007, 07:50:13 PM
But in the end, women are left out, and in tern, could become homo as well

But more importantly, a large decline in newborns

I have heard this argument many times about how this will cause a decrease in newborns. I don't think we need to worry about the human race dying out anytime soon. If the human race does die out, it's certainly not going to be caused by homosexuality. If homosexuals make up about 10 percent of the human population, there's still plenty left over to continue populating the world.

That statistic has been proven to be phony.  The real number is around 1%(?)
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Daniel on November 05, 2007, 07:53:25 PM
it's a disease!

I believe EVERYONE here would like a cure for diseases from cancer to Asthma.

It's un-human to allow a disease to run wild. There is a solution to this disease (and no, im not talking about a bullet :D ) , and if it's not stopped, it will continue spreading!

There's plenty of drugs to treat asthma. For just about any type of disease or syndrome, you can bet your bottom dollar that there is some pill that you can take to treat the symptoms. The pharmaceutical companies stand to make billions off of any drug they can successfully market, even those that may not work as well as they claim. But isn't it interesting that the one syndrome that the pharmaceutical companies haven't come up with any drug for is homosexuality. Why is that? Wouldn't that be such an enormous benefit? Wouldn't the drug companies make billions of dollars from this? I can't understand for the life of me why I don't see Homocil advertised on TV during the evening news every night.
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Daniel on November 05, 2007, 07:54:30 PM
But in the end, women are left out, and in tern, could become homo as well

But more importantly, a large decline in newborns

I have heard this argument many times about how this will cause a decrease in newborns. I don't think we need to worry about the human race dying out anytime soon. If the human race does die out, it's certainly not going to be caused by homosexuality. If homosexuals make up about 10 percent of the human population, there's still plenty left over to continue populating the world.

That statistic has been proven to be phony.  The real number is around 1%(?)

That proves my point even more. If just 1% of the population is homosexual, then why in the world are we concerned about the human race dying out as a result of homosexuality?
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on November 05, 2007, 08:09:34 PM
The world is overpopulated. Don't worry about a few people who don't marry and have children, either because of sexual deviation, or simply because they have chosen celibate.
Regarding the sin, homosexulity is a capital crime in the Torah. Breaking the Shabat (for a Jew) has exactrly the same punishment. But if we claim to stone any Jew who has ever violated Shabat voluntarily, then we would need a new Holocaust. Only 10% of Israeli Jews keep Shabat properly. So we'd have to join the Arabs who want to kill Jews. That's absurd!!!!!
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Tzvi Ben Roshel1 on November 05, 2007, 08:14:34 PM
The world is overpopulated. Don't worry about a few people who don't marry and have children, either because of sexual deviation, or simply because they have chosen celibate.
Regarding the sin, homosexulity is a capital crime in the Torah. Breaking the Shabat (for a Jew) has exactrly the same punishment. But if we claim to stone any Jew who has ever violated Shabat voluntarily, then we would need a new Holocaust. Only 10% of Israeli Jews keep Shabat properly. So we'd have to join the Arabs who want to kill Jews. That's absurd!!!!!

Its not the job of arabs to kill Jews, and even if G-d uses them for that mission, still they will be punished for it. For dealing with that one would need the proper JEWISH court, and their is a whole legal procession that takes place.
 As regards to gentiles- they alse are required to have a court system. And homosexuality is not allowed for them either, soo technically homos are supposed to recieve the death penalty for doing that act.
 Either way for both cases society should see how bad these acts can be and are and this should be a deterrent against such acts.
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: raiseyourfist on November 05, 2007, 09:12:08 PM
it's a disease!

I believe EVERYONE here would like a cure for diseases from cancer to Asthma.

It's un-human to allow a disease to run wild. There is a solution to this disease (and no, im not talking about a bullet :D ) , and if it's not stopped, it will continue spreading!

Im sorry but i don't agree...

AIDS is a disease... homosexuality is simply a bi-product of this

It's been proven to be a mental illness

Or did i just misunderstand your reply? lol  ::)

Well there is always going to be compromises in life..

if someone wants to go down the dirt path thats their decision...

LOL i just got that one too :::D


on a serious not i do know of guys who became gay becasue they were'nt able to find a woman.. as sick as this is going to sound everyone needs someone to love..

where do you draw the boundaries to this?
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on November 05, 2007, 11:50:34 PM
Shalom Tzvi

My backup has arrived :)

Thanks for that Tzvi.
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Merkava on November 06, 2007, 03:11:02 AM
Well ...it happens that the closest synagogue to my house is a Reform, I have been twice and I didn't like it. Felt more like being in church. But I actually spoke with one of the members and he told me that previous rabbi had been a female and she was a lesbian. I find that a bit ironic ...what do you think ?
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: newman on November 06, 2007, 03:29:12 AM
Well ...it happens that the closest synagogue to my house is a Reform, I have been twice and I didn't like it. Felt more like being in church. But I actually spoke with one of the members and he told me that previous rabbi had been a female and she was a lesbian. I find that a bit ironic ...what do you think ?

That's the deform movement for you. False, twisted non-Judaism.

Think of Orthodox Judaism as a nice pint of Newcastle Brown Ale. The real deal, right.

Think of reform 'Judaism' as 0.2 pints Newkie Brown, 0.3 pints lemonade, 0.2 pints spit, 0.1 pints toilet bowl water and 0.2 pints poison.
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Merkava on November 06, 2007, 04:02:32 AM
Thats an interesting view. Problem is that where I live there aren't that many Jews in the 1st place ! I think it may be better if I get a cab, pay £10 and go to the Orthodox one in the other side of town.
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: newman on November 06, 2007, 04:13:03 AM
Thats an interesting view. Problem is that where I live there aren't that many Jews in the 1st place ! I think it may be better if I get a cab, pay £10 and go to the Orthodox one in the other side of town.

10 quid for real Judaism (instead of deform baloney for free) is a bargain.
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Merkava on November 06, 2007, 04:16:28 AM
lol !!!!
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Ambiorix on November 06, 2007, 08:10:27 AM
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I get a cab, pay £10 and go to the Orthodox one in the other side of town.
You have to count how much it costs you in a year. Perhaps if you can't pay for it, move to the other side of town or go by bus?
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think of Orthodox Judaism as a nice pint of Newcastle Brown Ale. The real deal, right.
Is alcohol kosher ?
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: DALMACIJA on November 06, 2007, 08:37:34 AM
I hate to discuss about homosexuals.

In Serbia homosexualism is not tolerated.
They tried to organize a gay parade in our capital, Belgrade city.

Men, women, children and old people kicked their heads!
We showed them that Serbia does not accept homosexualism.

No homosexuals on Serbian lands.

I do not know in which century it was exactly but there was a period in Serbia when homosexuals were executed.

Stop Sodom and Gomorra!

Remember what happened wit the cities Sodom and Gomorra!
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: newman on November 06, 2007, 08:44:52 AM
I hate to discuss about homosexuals.

In Serbia homosexualism is not tolerated.
They tried to organize a gay parade in our capital, Belgrade city.

Men, women, children and old people kicked their heads!
We showed them that Serbia does not accept homosexualism.

No homosexuals on Serbian lands.

I do not know in which century it was exactly but there was a period in Serbia when homosexuals were executed.

Stop Sodom and Gomorra!

Remember what happened wit the cities Sodom and Gomorra!

They deserve it if they want to have sodomy parades and shout faggotry from the roof tops.

Nobody cares what they do behind closed doors. Why aren't they satisfied with doing their thing and shutting up about it?
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: DALMACIJA on November 06, 2007, 09:01:36 AM
Nobody cares what they do behind closed doors. Why aren't they satisfied with doing their thing and shutting up about it?


Those behind doors activities will bring curses toward the rest.
For the purity of the nation it must be eliminated.

No gays on Serbian lands! Not even one!
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Merkava on November 06, 2007, 09:12:55 AM
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Those behind doors activities will bring curses toward the rest.
For the purity of the nation it must be eliminated.

No gays on Serbian lands! Not even one!

I actually know someone that is Serbian and gay. He was a dancer in a club in Athens. Really cool guy.  So I am totally cool about hi being gay.
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on November 06, 2007, 09:41:06 AM
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Those behind doors activities will bring curses toward the rest.
For the purity of the nation it must be eliminated.

No gays on Serbian lands! Not even one!

I actually know someone that is Serbian and gay. He was a dancer in a club in Athens. Really cool guy.  So I am totally cool about hi being gay.

 :o :o :o
dont tell me you go to gay clubs now!?!?  :::D :::D :::D :::D :::D
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on November 06, 2007, 09:42:38 AM
Nobody cares what they do behind closed doors. Why aren't they satisfied with doing their thing and shutting up about it?


Those behind doors activities will bring curses toward the rest.
For the purity of the nation it must be eliminated.

No gays on Serbian lands! Not even one!


here here!

I completely agree with you!
Homo's poison the entire nation and land, and as you say, brings a curse to everyone!

"shoot the fag, save the land"
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Merkava on November 06, 2007, 09:45:50 AM
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dont tell me you go to gay clubs now!?!?

noooooooooooo - it was dance club and there you see all kinds of people. Gay clubs are off limits for me.

 
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: DALMACIJA on November 06, 2007, 09:59:54 AM
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dont tell me you go to gay clubs now!?!?

noooooooooooo - it was dance club and there you see all kinds of people. Gay clubs are off limits for me.

 

You have those kind of friends??
And You are calling one of them a really cool guy  :::D


shame on you man !
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: DALMACIJA on November 06, 2007, 10:02:31 AM

here here!

I completely agree with you!
Homo's poison the entire nation and land, and as you say, brings a curse to everyone!

"shoot the fag, save the land"


 O0
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Merkava on November 06, 2007, 10:09:51 AM
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You have those kind of friends??
And You are calling one of them a really cool guy  rotflmao!


shame on you man !

Why ? He never touched me. He never came on to me. He never acted as a homo infront of me. And he is not my friend either. He is just someone I know who happened to be cool. As a matter of fact he did introduce me to some really hot girls.

Shame on you for jumping to conclusions.
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: DALMACIJA on November 06, 2007, 10:16:00 AM
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You have those kind of friends??
And You are calling one of them a really cool guy  rotflmao!


shame on you man !
Shame on you for jumping to conclusions.

I was just joking and teasing.
I have no conclusions do not worry.

You have insulted me by saying that you know a gay “Serb”?
I do not like if someone puts the word gay in the same sentence with the word Serb. Or says he konws a gay Serb i do not wat to know that.


Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Merkava on November 06, 2007, 10:17:46 AM
Well he was Gay and he was Serbian ....how am i supposed to call him then ?
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: DALMACIJA on November 06, 2007, 10:24:19 AM
Well he was Gay and he was Serbian ....how am i supposed to call him then ?

What separates Serbs from non Serbs?
Their Serbian orthodox Christian religion.

You can not be for example catholic and Serbian in the same time.
Or atheistic and Serbian. You can also not be a gay and a Serb in the same time.

If you are a Serb than you are christian orthodox by religion.

Religion = Nation
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Merkava on November 06, 2007, 10:38:31 AM
Right....lets call him Serbian Pederu ...what do you think? no one will understand  :)

I doubt he was religious but the fact is that he was Serbian and he was gay. There are gays in Serbia just like there are gays in USA, Mexico, Canada & Israel  the Vatican.

Please don't follow Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's example by denying that fact that Gays exist in Serbia.

Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on November 06, 2007, 10:46:55 AM
I don't hate them.


Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Ambiorix on November 06, 2007, 11:02:15 AM
Well he was Gay and he was Serbian ....how am i supposed to call him then ?

Fagian
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Merkava on November 06, 2007, 11:05:57 AM
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Fagian
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LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Dexter on November 06, 2007, 11:13:31 AM
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I get a cab, pay £10 and go to the Orthodox one in the other side of town.
You have to count how much it costs you in a year. Perhaps if you can't pay for it, move to the other side of town or go by bus?
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think of Orthodox Judaism as a nice pint of Newcastle Brown Ale. The real deal, right.
Is alcohol kosher ?
Yes, it is.
Read about Kiddush:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiddush
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Joe Schmo on November 06, 2007, 12:11:00 PM
The more gays the more women there are for us

This is a good point.

If only the gays could remain in the closet like they used to.
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Bodhi on November 06, 2007, 12:26:14 PM
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You have those kind of friends??
And You are calling one of them a really cool guy  rotflmao!


shame on you man !

Why ? He never touched me. He never came on to me. He never acted as a homo infront of me. And he is not my friend either. He is just someone I know who happened to be cool. As a matter of fact he did introduce me to some really hot girls.

Shame on you for jumping to conclusions.

 I have to add here that I worked with one guy in particular who was homosexual.  I didn't have any clue that this was true, he acted normal in every way, and is someone I would have to say I liked and respeted.  I only realized this after about a year working with this person, who apparently was in a committed relationship with another man because the guy would show up at the workplace to wait for him to get off work after we closed up.......I don't approve of that lifestyle, but not everyone practing it is a bad person.  On the other hand I have probably known 20 people that I knew were homosexual and can honestly say that besides that one guy only two or three were people I didn't have a problem with.....without even taking their imorral lifestyles into consideration......so you can't say that all homosexuals are this or that any more than you can say that all Jews or Japanese are a certain way...but I think you can safely make some generalizations that the vast majority of them behave in ways that are repulsive to many people...myself included.
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Merkava on November 06, 2007, 12:33:47 PM
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I have to add here that I worked with one guy in particular who was homosexual.  I didn't have any clue that this was true, he acted normal in every way, and is someone I would have to say I liked and respeted.  I only realized this after about a year working with this person, who apparently was in a committed relationship with another man because the guy would show up at the workplace to wait for him to get off work after we closed up.......I don't approve of that lifestyle, but not everyone practing it is a bad person.  On the other hand I have probably known 20 people that I knew were homosexual and can honestly say that besides that one guy only two or three were people I didn't have a problem with.....without even taking their imorral lifestyles into consideration......so you can't say that all homosexuals are this or that any more than you can say that all Jews or Japanese are a certain way...but I think you can safely make some generalizations that the vast majority of them behave in ways that are repulsive to many people...myself included.

I agree. Another example is of my last job. I was in a team of 12 girls a 2 guys (including me). The guy was very normal. Very well mannered too. Once my PC crashed and I said "this computer is gay" ....everything negative that happens I describe it as "gay" which is inappropriate.
My supervisor heard me and gave me a disciplinary and a written warning. When I left the job and I relocated I found the guy's myspace profile and it said SEXUAL ORIENTATION: GAY

Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: newman on November 06, 2007, 12:44:19 PM
The more gays the more women there are for us

This is a good point.

If only the gays could remain in the closet like they used to.

Why can't they stay in the closet?

You don't get bondage freaks, transvestites or animal buggers demanding the right to do it in the street. What's with these queers that they have to (1) tell us about their fetishes and (2) demand we accept it?
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on November 06, 2007, 12:47:53 PM
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What separates Serbs from non Serbs?
Their Serbian orthodox Christian religion.

You can not be for example catholic and Serbian in the same time.
Or atheistic and Serbian. You can also not be a gay and a Serb in the same time.

If you are a Serb than you are christian orthodox by religion.

Religion = Nation

I know someone who was a Serb and a murderer, his name was Slovodan Milosevic. Do you know him?

BTW, if a Serb decides to convert to Judaism, or Noahidism, and repents from worshipping Ortodox idols and images. What is he?



Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Merkava on November 06, 2007, 01:24:58 PM
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I know someone who was a Serb and a murderer, his name was Slovodan Milosevic. Do you know him?

Yes.....he was in the team that won the European Basketball Championship in 2003. I wasn't aware he was a murderer ? OMG
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Barach Velvel ben Lazer Eliazer on November 06, 2007, 02:11:24 PM
Merkava, it seems like homosexuality is a big joke to you. It's a very serious problem. A problem that is being used as a tool by liberals to pollute impressionable young minds. Many schools teach young children that homosexuality is OK through children's books written by liberal nutcases who don't care about the morality of our youth.

And do you realize how many lesbians there are in the US? The majority of feminists are lesbians! Why else do you think they don't want get married?

Gay militants are a huge problem in San Francisco. They invaded a church during communion dressed as nuns! This is disgusting behavior by disgusting people.

It's perfectly acceptable to hate these degenerates, and should be encouraged.

If you came out of the closet decades ago your father would give you a pounding. Now, the news media and teachers work to make parents feel guilty about their disdain for their child's homosexuality, when they should, justifiably feel disdain for their disease. Coming out of the closet is encouraged! It's unbelievable that a good portion of the US actually encourages people to flaunt their disgusting lifestyle. New York City and San Francisco have parades dedicated to these disgraceful people! Just unbelievable.
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Ambiorix on November 06, 2007, 02:15:36 PM
Merkava, it seems like homosexuality is a big joke to you. It's a very serious problem. A problem that is being used as a tool by liberals to pollute impressionable young minds. Many schools teach young children that homosexuality is OK through children's books written by liberal nutcases who don't care about the morality of our youth.

And do you realize how many lesbians there are in the US? The majority of feminists are lesbians! Why else do you think they don't want get married?

Gay militants are a huge problem in San Francisco. They invaded a church during communion dressed as nuns! This is disgusting behavior by disgusting people.

It's perfectly acceptable to hate these degenerates, and should be encouraged.

If you came out of the closet decades ago your father would give you a pounding. Now, the news media and teachers work to make parents feel guilty about their disdain for their child's homosexuality, when they should, justifiably feel disdain for their disease. Coming out of the closet is encouraged! It's unbelievable that a good portion of the US actually encourages people to flaunt their disgusting lifestyle. New York City and San Francisco have parades dedicated to these disgraceful people! Just unbelievable.

999999% agree
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Barach Velvel ben Lazer Eliazer on November 06, 2007, 02:30:13 PM
The more gays the more women there are for us

This is a good point.

If only the gays could remain in the closet like they used to.

Why can't they stay in the closet?

You don't get bondage freaks, transvestites or animal buggers demanding the right to do it in the street. What's with these queers that they have to (1) tell us about their fetishes and (2) demand we accept it?
They should stay in the closet like they did decades ago. But now you have people telling them it's OK to flaunt their homosexuality. True right-wingers with biblical values should not accept homosexuality as OK by any means. That point of view is expressed in the Communist Manifesto. Communists love to brainwash people into thinking disgusting behavior is OK.

This acception of immoral behavior is just a plot point in the bigger picture of liberalism, and its quest to infect the US. Immorality of any kind is unacceptable!
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Merkava on November 06, 2007, 02:30:57 PM
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Merkava, it seems like homosexuality is a big joke to you. It's a very serious problem. A problem that is being used as a tool by liberals to pollute impressionable young minds. Many schools teach young children that homosexuality is OK through children's books written by liberal nutcases who don't care about the morality of our youth.
Barak....you did not read my previous posts. I never agreed with what you quote here.

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Gay militants are a huge problem in San Francisco. They invaded a church during communion dressed as nuns! This is disgusting behavior by disgusting people.
That is very disrespectful

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If you came out of the closet decades ago your father would give you a pounding.
Is that from first hand experience you've had ?
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It's perfectly acceptable to hate these degenerates, and should be encouraged.
Once again I don't see a reason to hate them aslong as they keep it to themselves.

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Now, the news media and teachers work to make parents feel guilty about their disdain for their child's homosexuality, when they should, justifiably feel disdain for their disease. Coming out of the closet is encouraged! It's unbelievable that a good portion of the US actually encourages people to flaunt their disgusting lifestyle. New York City and San Francisco have parades dedicated to these disgraceful people! Just unbelievable.
I agree with you on this....its wrong.
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Dr. Dan on November 06, 2007, 02:44:33 PM
homosexuality is unnatural. (I know your going to say that the scientists or whatever say other wise) but, its a repulsive, unnatural act that G-d hates.


Mishkav Zachur- Homosexuality 
   
There is a Teshuvah by Rav Moshe Feinstein in Chelek 4 seman 115, which is of course Halachic but it is also Hashkafic in nature. The Rabbi was writing to a fellow who it seems was caught with his Ta’avot, in his pleasures, and had succumbed to a decadent level of Mishkav Zachur, of homosexuality. He asked the Rabbi for a little Chizuk, a little encouragement in order that he should overcome his Yetzer Hara.

So the Rabbi points out in the Teshuva a few things about this grave Avon of Mishkav Zachur. He says, not only it is punishable by Karet (death), but if there was a warning and there were proper witnesses, then it would be punishable by stoning, which is in deed the most serious punishment that our Torah imposes. It is the same punishment as Chillul Shabbat.

He says further that if you look in the Parasha of Mishkav Zachur, the word ‘Toeva’, which means abomination, is written twice. It is written more than any other of the Raayot, more than other of the illicit relations. And Rabbi Feinstein says that in the Gemara, it says that ‘Toeva’ is ‘Toe Hu Ba’. Meaning that he is making a mistake in it. He explains this as against human nature. It is a type of Avon (transgression) that is just in defiance of Bore Olam. It’s just out of anger in order to rebel against Bore Olam, because there should be no normal nature the way G-d created people to go after such a thing.

Furthermore, Rav Feinstein says that one of the ways that this can be controlled is if one will know that even by wicked people this is considered abominable. Which means certain other Avonot are accepted by society. Unfortunately we are living in a society today where it is almost becoming an acceptable lifestyle. But to most normal balanced people this is considered disgusting. Even people who are not so careful in other things, when it comes to Mishkav Zachur, it is disgusting. So if a perpetrator of such a sin remembers that and that he is disgusted by those who make such a sin, then already it might control it a little further.

The Pasuk writes in Devarim, [listen to the audio clip for the exact quote] that at the end of time they are going to anger G-d with abominations. The text reads, ‘BeToevot Yachisuhu’. Rashi says, that this refers to BeToevot Mishkav Zachur. So we see over here, as we said, it is done out of rebellion. It is done in anger of G-d, because there is no real pleasure for such a thing. It’s against human nature and it is not accepted by decent society.

Last but not least he quotes a Rambam, which says that the best way to control all passions and desires is by opening the mind up and sitting to study Torah. Just sit and learn and study in depth and go to classes and fill the mind with the study of Torah. Somehow the light of the Torah overcomes a person and is able to mitigate his base pleasures.

So again, as I said, The Torah and Halacha is clear on Mishkav Zachur. Unfortunately we have to speak about this clearly, because in society today there are those who want to pervert the Torah and say that today it doesn’t apply, and it was for then and not today, and that it is accepted today. But no, it is just as abominable today as it was 3000 years ago. It is just as much as Karet today as it was always. Although we can’t stone today, but it is still such a sin of grave nature. And for those who are crippled by this Avon, books do bring down that if Bore Olam gave a person even a tendency or weakness if that is possible, Bore Olam gave him the ability to overcome it also. Bore Olam would not give a test if the person would not have the strength to overcome it.

So either way, this Toeva must be put under control. We can not accept it certainly in society, or have tolerance. But the Rabbi did have tolerance to a person who was trying to help himself. The Rabbi did write a long letter to him as we see, to try and rehabilitate him. So there is a level, that if a person makes an effort to come back, that you deal with such a thing. But to tolerate or accept it as an alternate lifestyle, this would be contempt of the Torah.
 

http://dailyhalacha.com/displayRead.asp?readID=495&txtSearch=homosexuality  ( A Few minutes, please listin).


very nice post, Tzvi
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Barach Velvel ben Lazer Eliazer on November 06, 2007, 02:48:06 PM
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Merkava, it seems like homosexuality is a big joke to you. It's a very serious problem. A problem that is being used as a tool by liberals to pollute impressionable young minds. Many schools teach young children that homosexuality is OK through children's books written by liberal nutcases who don't care about the morality of our youth.
Barak....you did not read my previous posts. I never agreed with what you quote here.

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Gay militants are a huge problem in San Francisco. They invaded a church during communion dressed as nuns! This is disgusting behavior by disgusting people.
That is very disrespectful

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If you came out of the closet decades ago your father would give you a pounding.
Is that from first hand experience you've had ?
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It's perfectly acceptable to hate these degenerates, and should be encouraged.
Once again I don't see a reason to hate them aslong as they keep it to themselves.

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Now, the news media and teachers work to make parents feel guilty about their disdain for their child's homosexuality, when they should, justifiably feel disdain for their disease. Coming out of the closet is encouraged! It's unbelievable that a good portion of the US actually encourages people to flaunt their disgusting lifestyle. New York City and San Francisco have parades dedicated to these disgraceful people! Just unbelievable.
I agree with you on this....its wrong.
Why else do you think you more gays are known to the public now than decades ago? Homosexuals were scared out of their minds what their parents, friends and people on the street would think of them if they were known to be gay. Parents of this time would not accept homosexuality. Ask someone who raised children in the 50's and 60's what they would do if they found out their children were gay. I'll bet that they wouldn't take it laying down.

But slowly but surely, liberal nutcases told the homosexuals who were keeping quiet that they had nothing to be ashamed of, because their unnatural state of mind was "in fact" natural. They started wearing earrings in their right ear and then it just got out of control from then on out.

Today, there is such a growing problem of immorality, many people see this degenerate lifestyle as acceptable and something that will have no effect on their life. But what they don't realize is their acceptance of homosexuality has already lead them down the path of immorality.

Homosexuals should remain the closet, never to emerge. It's shameful and flaunting it is even more so.
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on November 06, 2007, 02:51:21 PM
There has been homosexuality in all nations and every period off human history. I see no problem that they "come out of the closet". Even if practised secretly, it's also a violation of the Torah. But in a society where you can be even atheist or idolator, I don't see what's the problem with gays.
However I strongly oppose gay "marriage", and consider gay adoption as a very serious crime. In Let-be-land, in case there would be a same sex couple who attempts to adopt a child, they would be immediately and definitively expelled, and charged for the crime of "Forced indocrination of children", since the child would be forced to condone homosexuality and deprived of his freedom of speech.
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Barach Velvel ben Lazer Eliazer on November 06, 2007, 02:51:40 PM
Plus, Merkava, just you posing this question shows that you don't understand what is so wrong with homosexuality. Why do you even need to ask why so many hate them? Isn't the answer obvious? You've been given a variety of reasons, yet, you continue to not understand why this hate exists. It is unnatural to not hate homosexuals.
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Barach Velvel ben Lazer Eliazer on November 06, 2007, 02:54:41 PM
There has been homosexuality in all nations and every period off human history. I see no problem that they "come out of the closet". Even if practised secretly, it's also a violation of the Torah. But in a society where you can be even atheist or idolator, I don't see what's the problem with gays.
However I strongly oppose gay "marriage", and consider gay adoption as a very serious crime. In Let-be-land, in case there would be a same sex couple who attempts to adopt a child, they would be immediately and definitively expelled, and charged for the crime of "Forced indocrination of children", since the child would be forced to condone homosexuality and deprived of his freedom of speech.
Yes, there has been homosexuality in the past, and there are surely those in history nobody knows about. But it wasn't encouraged centuries ago. It's an age-old lifestyle, but it's just as sick as it was back then. They have no right to flaunt their disgusting lifestyle under any circumstances.
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Merkava on November 06, 2007, 02:57:24 PM
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Plus, Merkava, just you posing this question shows that you don't understand what is so wrong with homosexuality. Why do you even need to ask why so many hate them? Isn't the answer obvious? You've been given a variety of reasons, yet, you continue to not understand why this hate exists. It is unnatural to not hate homosexuals.

Like I said....I used to hate them with passion but then I realized how stupid that was. Aslong as they keep it to themselves I am happy. As long as my future child is not encouraged to become one I am happy. I work in an industry where there are homosexuals so I have matured enough to accept them aslong as they don't flaunt it.

Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Merkava on November 06, 2007, 03:00:18 PM
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Yes, there has been homosexuality in the past, and there are surely those in history nobody knows about. But it wasn't encouraged centuries ago. It's an age-old lifestyle, but it's just as sick as it was back then. They have no right to flaunt their disgusting lifestyle under any circumstances.

The Ancient Greeks didn't think it was sick.
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Sarah on November 06, 2007, 03:08:27 PM
Tolerating has the same effect as encouraging.
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Merkava on November 06, 2007, 03:10:30 PM
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Tolerating has the same effect as encouraging.

Like I said.....I am cool with the homos aslong as they keep their sins away from me.
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: DALMACIJA on November 06, 2007, 03:21:10 PM

BTW, if a Serb decides to convert to Judaism, or Noahidism, and repents from worshipping Ortodox idols and images. What is he?



You are not informed.
Stop talking nonsense.

This is the second message witch insults my religion.
It is irritating me.

You must know that JTF has aslo a Serbian community.
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Merkava on November 06, 2007, 03:40:10 PM
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Dude no disrespect.

I asked the other person's point of view. You are not a Ben Adam. You are just a stupid Serb You are a very sensitive person who gets stirred up.

You made yourself look immature out there.

Wrong thread ?
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on November 06, 2007, 03:56:35 PM
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You are not informed.
Stop talking nonsense.

This is the second message witch insults my religion.
It is irritating me.

You must know that JTF has aslo a Serbian community

While Catholic images, even if forbidden by Hallacha, are only symbols, orthodox ikons are really worshipped, and it sounds idolatry to me. I found idolatry as repulsive as gay parades. And that's not because of religious zeal, just repulsion. (I'm not a Tzadik). If your repulsion to gays is to be understood, why not my repulsion to idolatry?
Of course I respect your right to be whatever you want. But don't expect me to like it!
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Sarah on November 06, 2007, 03:58:17 PM
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Tolerating has the same effect as encouraging.

Like I said.....I am cool with the homos aslong as they keep their sins away from me.
Being cool with them, allows them to grow and continue their practice because they are not pressured to stop.
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Barach Velvel ben Lazer Eliazer on November 06, 2007, 04:40:39 PM
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Plus, Merkava, just you posing this question shows that you don't understand what is so wrong with homosexuality. Why do you even need to ask why so many hate them? Isn't the answer obvious? You've been given a variety of reasons, yet, you continue to not understand why this hate exists. It is unnatural to not hate homosexuals.

Like I said....I used to hate them with passion but then I realized how stupid that was. Aslong as they keep it to themselves I am happy. As long as my future child is not encouraged to become one I am happy. I work in an industry where there are homosexuals so I have matured enough to accept them aslong as they don't flaunt it.


The majority do flaunt it! Maybe the few you know don't, but most do.

Why is it stupid to hate something evil? Homosexuality is very evil, and evil should be hated with a passion, because that's the only way it's not going to be encouraged. It needs to be discouraged as much possible. If one is homosexual, they should not be encouraged to take part in homosexual acts.
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on November 06, 2007, 04:50:04 PM
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Why is it stupid to hate something evil? Homosexuality is very evil, and evil should be hated with a passion, because that's the only way it's not going to be encouraged. It needs to be discouraged as much possible. If one is homosexual, they should not be encouraged to take part in homosexual acts.

I don't think hate will prevent a gay to commit sodomy. Perhaps love would do a better job.
BTW It's funny that there is not a topic like this to deal with adultery.
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Ambiorix on November 06, 2007, 06:09:04 PM
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Why is it stupid to hate something evil? Homosexuality is very evil, and evil should be hated with a passion, because that's the only way it's not going to be encouraged. It needs to be discouraged as much possible. If one is homosexual, they should not be encouraged to take part in homosexual acts.

I don't think hate will prevent a gay to commit sodomy. Perhaps love would do a better job.
BTW It's funny that there is not a topic like this to deal with adultery.


We don't use the A-word
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Merkava on November 06, 2007, 06:13:24 PM
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We don't use the A-word

Why ?? Thats a bit absurd
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Ambiorix on November 06, 2007, 06:30:05 PM
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We don't use the A-word

Why ?? Thats a bit absurd
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Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Merkava on November 06, 2007, 06:45:04 PM
Adultery happens ! Why is the word banned ?
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Ambiorix on November 06, 2007, 06:48:16 PM
Adultery happens ! Why is the word banned ?
It is not banned.
I'm just fooling you.
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Merkava on November 06, 2007, 06:49:11 PM
oh !

lol....the jokes on me then  :D
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Barach Velvel ben Lazer Eliazer on November 06, 2007, 07:35:51 PM
Well, Merkava, it doesn't make sense why you object to homosexuality, but can't understand why people hate them. If you think their actions are immoral and disgusting and are affecting the US in a negative way, why don't you hate them?
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Ambiorix on November 06, 2007, 07:38:39 PM
Well, Merkava, it doesn't make sense why you object to homosexuality, but can't understand why people hate them. If you think their actions are immoral and disgusting and are affecting the US in a negative way, why don't you hate them?
Are you a homo?
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Ulli on November 06, 2007, 07:44:34 PM
I don't like homosexuals and i don't want to have contact to them, because I avoid bad company. 8)

P.S.
I like JTF. Here can I say all things, which I think, without getting in trouble. O0
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Barach Velvel ben Lazer Eliazer on November 06, 2007, 07:52:05 PM
Well, Merkava, it doesn't make sense why you object to homosexuality, but can't understand why people hate them. If you think their actions are immoral and disgusting and are affecting the US in a negative way, why don't you hate them?
Are you a homo?
Excuse me? I've been battling in this topic to get Merkava to see that homosexuals should be hated by all means!

And if this is a joke, stop it, because you're not funny. I've been watching you joke all around this discussion, and it's getting tiring.
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: OdKahaneChai on November 06, 2007, 08:31:52 PM
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It's been proven to be a mental illness

Where did you get that from ?

DOC: "The patient suffers from a mild case of homosexuality but it can be controlled"

Don't be silly ....its not a mental illness.
Actually until 1974 it officially was.  And even if it wasn't, it's still an abomination.  The buck stops with Hashem.
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on November 06, 2007, 09:11:09 PM
Well, the issue is quite simple. If you dislike gays and lesbian for breaking Torah Laws, that's ok. But you must be fair and hate EVERYONE who breaks Torah.
If you just think homosexuals are negative for the society, then it's a problem, b/c noone can tell another person what to do in his private life, unless the reprimand is based on a Divine Law.
The Maccabeans had a great religious zeal, and they named their children Alexander, after Alexander the Great, who was said to be gay and surely was an idolator!!! It seem that ancient Jews didn't care so much about a Gentile's private deeds. Why should YOU care so much?
They only thing about gays that scares me is their activism for gay marriage and adoption. Gay individuals do not trouble me. One gay saved me once from a gang of Nazis
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: OdKahaneChai on November 06, 2007, 09:14:00 PM
Well, the issue is quite simple. If you dislike gays and lesbian for breaking Torah Laws, that's ok. But you must be fair and hate EVERYONE who breaks Torah.
If you just think homosexuals are negative for the society, then it's a problem, b/c noone can tell another person what to do in his private life, unless the reprimand is based on a Divine Law.
The Maccabeans had a great religious zeal, and they named their children Alexander, after Alexander the Great, who was said to be gay and surely was an idolator!!! It seem that ancient Jews didn't care so much about a Gentile's private deeds. Why should YOU care so much?
They only thing about gays that scares me is their activism for gay marriage and adoption. Gay individuals do not trouble me. One gay saved me once from a gang of Nazis
First of all Alexander the Great was not gay.  Second of all, there's a whole story behind how Alexander has become a Jewish name.  I can tell you if you want to hear it.
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: The Shadow on November 06, 2007, 09:20:45 PM
I'm gonna tell you why people dislike male homosexuals

1) They spread aids

2)half are infected with aids

3) Besides that, i don't think they they are bad people. I don't agree with what they do, but to each his own.  I don't think they should be put to death for their activity.   Believe me, straight people can be the scum of the earth.
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Eliezer Ben Avraham on November 06, 2007, 09:55:04 PM
I'm gonna tell you why people dislike male homosexuals

1) They spread aids

2)half are infected with aids

3) Besides that, i don't think they they are bad people. I don't agree with what they do, but to each his own.  I don't think they should be put to death for their activity.   Believe me, straight people can be the scum of the earth.
there are bad straight people too, nobody is arguing that. However Homosexuality is specifically forbidden in the Torah and Jewish Law
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Tzvi Ben Roshel1 on November 06, 2007, 10:43:07 PM
Shalom Tzvi

My backup has arrived :)

Thanks for that Tzvi.

Shalom. No problem.
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Ambiorix on November 06, 2007, 10:51:59 PM
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Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Barach Velvel ben Lazer Eliazer on November 07, 2007, 12:10:55 AM
Ambiorix, you're making this into a big joke like Merkava. Homosexuality is nothing to laugh about. It is a tremendous problem, which has been made so by liberalism.
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Ambiorix on November 07, 2007, 12:16:41 AM
Ambiorix, you're making this into a big joke like Merkava. Homosexuality is nothing to laugh about. It is a tremendous problem, which has been made so by liberalism.

You are right and I apologise for that.
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Ultra Requete on November 07, 2007, 05:50:33 AM
Well, the issue is quite simple. If you dislike gays and lesbian for breaking Torah Laws, that's ok. But you must be fair and hate EVERYONE who breaks Torah.
If you just think homosexuals are negative for the society, then it's a problem, b/c noone can tell another person what to do in his private life, unless the reprimand is based on a Divine Law.
The Maccabeans had a great religious zeal, and they named their children Alexander, after Alexander the Great, who was said to be gay and surely was an idolator!!! It seem that ancient Jews didn't care so much about a Gentile's private deeds. Why should YOU care so much?
They only thing about gays that scares me is their activism for gay marriage and adoption. Gay individuals do not trouble me. One gay saved me once from a gang of Nazis
First of all Alexander the Great was not gay.  Second of all, there's a whole story behind how Alexander has become a Jewish name.  I can tell you if you want to hear it.

I'm realy interested why so many Jews in times of Machabeans, Herod and NT had such greek names like John, Philip and Alexander.
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: AussieJTFer on November 07, 2007, 07:03:17 AM
Many of those Jews were Hellenist, they turned their backs on Judaism and embraced Greek culture and language in order to assimilate with the Greeks amongst them.
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Merkava on November 07, 2007, 11:20:16 AM
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Well, Merkava, it doesn't make sense why you object to homosexuality, but can't understand why people hate them. If you think their actions are immoral and disgusting and are affecting the US in a negative way, why don't you hate them?

Barak....I think its a joke how you guys make such a big deal about it. Okay, I don't like homos either but i don't let it get to me like I used to. Its bad , but we have more important things to worry about. We are in an all out war with the Nazi/Muslims and you are worried to death about what some homos does behind closed doors ? If they are not flaunting it infront of you ignore them. How are they a threat to you? Homos are just as annoying as blacks and Husar. I don't like them but I won't spend a lifetime grieving about them. I have more important things to worry about such as Israel and her safety and the increasing Nazi/Muslim threat.

Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: newman on November 07, 2007, 12:03:53 PM
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Well, Merkava, it doesn't make sense why you object to homosexuality, but can't understand why people hate them. If you think their actions are immoral and disgusting and are affecting the US in a negative way, why don't you hate them?

Barak....I think its a joke how you guys make such a big deal about it. Okay, I don't like homos either but i don't let it get to me like I used to. Its bad , but we have more important things to worry about. We are in an all out war with the Nazi/Muslims and you are worried to death about what some homos does behind closed doors ? If they are not flaunting it infront of you ignore them. How are they a threat to you? Homos are just as annoying as blacks and Husar. I don't like them but I won't spend a lifetime grieving about them. I have more important things to worry about such as Israel and her safety and the increasing Nazi/Muslim threat.



Merk,

Nobody is bothered by the odd pair of bum-bandits doing a bit of brown-hatting in their tastfully decorated apartment.

Our opposition is to the radical gay political movement.

This movement is dangerous. It supports under-age sex, it opposes sencorship, it supports muslim terror, it is left-wing, it is anti-religious and worst of all it is anti-free speech and seeks to outlaw ALL opposition.
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Merkava on November 07, 2007, 12:06:54 PM
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This movement is dangerous. It supports under-age sex, it opposes sencorship, it supports muslim terror, it is left-wing, it is anti-religious and worst of all it is anti-free speech and seeks to outlaw ALL opposition.
They support Muslim/Nazis & Underage sex ? That is sick...they should be erradicated from the face of the planet along with NAMBLA. How come these sick bastards haven't been banned ?!?!?!?
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: newman on November 07, 2007, 12:10:33 PM
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This movement is dangerous. It supports under-age sex, it opposes sencorship, it supports muslim terror, it is left-wing, it is anti-religious and worst of all it is anti-free speech and seeks to outlaw ALL opposition.
They support Muslim/Nazis & Underage sex ? That is sick...they should be erradicated from the face of the planet along with NAMBLA. How come these sick bastards haven't been banned ?!?!?!?


Because at least 75% of gays support this lobby. They in turn are supported by the glitterati of Hollywood and all left of centre politicians.

They are like muslims, they act reasonable in TV interviews but all their actions are aimed at undermining every Judaic/christian/western value we have.
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Tzvi Ben Roshel1 on November 07, 2007, 12:16:13 PM
Well, the issue is quite simple. If you dislike gays and lesbian for breaking Torah Laws, that's ok. But you must be fair and hate EVERYONE who breaks Torah.
If you just think homosexuals are negative for the society, then it's a problem, b/c noone can tell another person what to do in his private life, unless the reprimand is based on a Divine Law.
The Maccabeans had a great religious zeal, and they named their children Alexander, after Alexander the Great, who was said to be gay and surely was an idolator!!! It seem that ancient Jews didn't care so much about a Gentile's private deeds. Why should YOU care so much?
They only thing about gays that scares me is their activism for gay marriage and adoption. Gay individuals do not trouble me. One gay saved me once from a gang of Nazis
First of all Alexander the Great was not gay.  Second of all, there's a whole story behind how Alexander has become a Jewish name.  I can tell you if you want to hear it.

I'm realy interested why so many Jews in times of Machabeans, Herod and NT had such greek names like John, Philip and Alexander.

Alexander became a Jewish name in honor of Alexander the Great. After he came to Israel, I belive that the Rabbis said that we will name every child born Alexander during that time. - so it was an adapted Jewish name.  - the other - I believe was used both by the hellinists and also the early christians, allthough maybe these names were used in translation from Hebrew to Greek. for example Johanan became John.
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Barach Velvel ben Lazer Eliazer on November 07, 2007, 10:32:35 PM
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Well, Merkava, it doesn't make sense why you object to homosexuality, but can't understand why people hate them. If you think their actions are immoral and disgusting and are affecting the US in a negative way, why don't you hate them?

Barak....I think its a joke how you guys make such a big deal about it. Okay, I don't like homos either but i don't let it get to me like I used to. Its bad , but we have more important things to worry about. We are in an all out war with the Nazi/Muslims and you are worried to death about what some homos does behind closed doors ? If they are not flaunting it infront of you ignore them. How are they a threat to you? Homos are just as annoying as blacks and Husar. I don't like them but I won't spend a lifetime grieving about them. I have more important things to worry about such as Israel and her safety and the increasing Nazi/Muslim threat.



Merk,

Nobody is bothered by the odd pair of bum-bandits doing a bit of brown-hatting in their tastfully decorated apartment.

Our opposition is to the radical gay political movement.

This movement is dangerous. It supports under-age sex, it opposes sencorship, it supports muslim terror, it is left-wing, it is anti-religious and worst of all it is anti-free speech and seeks to outlaw ALL opposition.
You're right. Let them flaunt their homosexuality in their own homes, not in the streets.

What gets me so angry is that liberals actually support this behavior, and influence them into parading in the streets, saying that they should be proud of what they are and they should flaunt it.

Judaism and Christianity is against homosexuality. It is considered immoral and therefore, that is another reason for me to hate it.

Homosexuality doesn't contribute anything to the world.
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Daniel on November 07, 2007, 11:49:58 PM
Nobody has answered my question about why the pharmaceutical companies haven't come up with a drug to treat homosexuality. I'm not being cute. It's a serious question. Do any of you have any thoughts, opinions, or input on this question?
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on November 07, 2007, 11:59:24 PM
Nobody has answered my question about why the pharmaceutical companies haven't come up with a drug to treat homosexuality. I'm not being cute. It's a serious question. Do any of you have any thoughts, opinions, or input on this question?

Because it's no longer a disease, it's a choice in the eyes of the sick politicians. IF the pharma guys bring out an antidote, they'll be scrutinised and harshly dealt with

During pre-South Africa, South African military scientists/doctors were way in front of homo research. In fact, they tested some of the soldiers on the border with medications, and were quite successfull.
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: newman on November 08, 2007, 01:46:07 AM
Nobody has answered my question about why the pharmaceutical companies haven't come up with a drug to treat homosexuality. I'm not being cute. It's a serious question. Do any of you have any thoughts, opinions, or input on this question?

They have numerous drugs to treat homosexuality. Cyanide, strichnine............ etc
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on November 08, 2007, 03:51:33 AM
Nobody has answered my question about why the pharmaceutical companies haven't come up with a drug to treat homosexuality. I'm not being cute. It's a serious question. Do any of you have any thoughts, opinions, or input on this question?

They have numerous drugs to treat homosexuality. Cyanide, strichnine............ etc
:::D :::D
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Sarah on November 08, 2007, 04:11:28 AM
Nobody has answered my question about why the pharmaceutical companies haven't come up with a drug to treat homosexuality. I'm not being cute. It's a serious question. Do any of you have any thoughts, opinions, or input on this question?

Because its psychological. I don't believe its a disease.
Its vile.
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on November 08, 2007, 04:31:18 AM
Sarah is right. It is psychological. She's even more right in saying it's vile  O0

Ive also heard that it's a hormonal mbalance, which can ofcourse be treated

im wondering, do homo's see men more attractive than women, or what?
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Merkava on November 08, 2007, 02:45:48 PM
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im wondering, do homo's see men more attractive than women, or what?


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Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Daniel on November 08, 2007, 06:15:28 PM
Sarah is right. It is psychological. She's even more right in saying it's vile  O0

Ive also heard that it's a hormonal mbalance, which can ofcourse be treated

im wondering, do homo's see men more attractive than women, or what?

Umm, yah! That's what makes them homosexual!  ???
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Daniel on November 08, 2007, 06:20:44 PM
Nobody has answered my question about why the pharmaceutical companies haven't come up with a drug to treat homosexuality. I'm not being cute. It's a serious question. Do any of you have any thoughts, opinions, or input on this question?

Because its psychological. I don't believe its a disease.
Its vile.

Psychological problems have treatments and medications available. If someone has depression or anxiety, they can receive therapy and medication to treat the symptoms. If someone has a fetish or paraphilia, this is identified in the DSM-IV as abnormal and atypical behavior and identified as a psychological disorder where treatment is also available. But when it comes to homosexuality, the DSM-IV doesn't classify it as a disorder or a paraphilia and there is no therapeutic treatment or medication available to treat it. So why are other psychological conditions and symptoms treated in the mental health field, but not homosexuality?
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on November 09, 2007, 02:46:35 AM
There aren't treatments for homosexuality simply becuase their behaviour is not dangerous for others, and besides that treatmentes may harm a person's identity and be cruel. However it's unfair that a gay who wants to try those treatments is not provided with them. Everyone should be free to try a treatment, even if it may be harmfull to him. It's like volunteers who may want to lend their bodies to experiment with a new vaccine. It's their choise and should be respected!!!
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: mord on November 24, 2007, 06:37:06 PM
[quote The more gays the more women there are for us
][/quote]  we can all have Harems with concubines :-\
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Ultra Requete on December 10, 2007, 03:37:15 AM
[quote The more gays the more women there are for us
]
  we can all have Harems with concubines :-\
[/quote]

You forgot about femine version of this perversion; and about them don't hurting us tell this to the citisens of fine cities of Sodom and Gomorah, the fact that their sin is publicly aplauded is one of the reasons the west is sinking. :( 
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on December 10, 2007, 08:28:29 AM
[quote The more gays the more women there are for us
]
  we can all have Harems with concubines :-\

You forgot about femine version of this perversion; and about them don't hurting us tell this to the citisens of fine cities of Sodom and Gomorah, the fact that their sin is publicly aplauded is one of the reasons the west is sinking. :( 
[/quote]
indeed!
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: JTFFan on December 10, 2007, 08:54:20 AM
Sarah is right. It is psychological. She's even more right in saying it's vile  O0

Ive also heard that it's a hormonal mbalance, which can ofcourse be treated

im wondering, do homo's see men more attractive than women, or what?

It's vile and most probably hormonal imbalance, though strong studies have been linked to it being genetic (maybe it was a typological error) most sites say it's not genetic? :o ???
I was reading that in my Psychology book that most point at hormonal imbalances and genetic factors. I think it has to do with hormonal imbalance maybe not an equal amount of hormones during birth resulting in an imbalance with feminine qualities or having received too much estrogen during birth. I read there are estrogens (they aren't human estrogens) in food that make people a bit feminine too. Although, you could also argue it's caused by a variety of factors depending on the individual and circumstance such as hormonal imbalances, psychological, and the foods you eat, but I'm not going with the genetic direction. Maybe this learnt behavior gets inherited somehow or from a gene disorder, but I doubt it? ???
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: JTFFan on December 10, 2007, 08:56:09 AM
Nobody has answered my question about why the pharmaceutical companies haven't come up with a drug to treat homosexuality. I'm not being cute. It's a serious question. Do any of you have any thoughts, opinions, or input on this question?

Because its psychological. I don't believe its a disease.
Its vile.

Psychological problems have treatments and medications available. If someone has depression or anxiety, they can receive therapy and medication to treat the symptoms. If someone has a fetish or paraphilia, this is identified in the DSM-IV as abnormal and atypical behavior and identified as a psychological disorder where treatment is also available. But when it comes to homosexuality, the DSM-IV doesn't classify it as a disorder or a paraphilia and there is no therapeutic treatment or medication available to treat it. So why are other psychological conditions and symptoms treated in the mental health field, but not homosexuality?

good point
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Sarah on December 10, 2007, 04:48:16 PM
I read a stupid article today that said the reason people are homosexual is because they spend too much of their youth with males and enjoy their company so much they cannot break away and take interest in the opposite gender. Instead they continue being with their own sex and then all relations end up channelled towards it.
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Eliezer Ben Avraham on December 10, 2007, 09:21:24 PM
Nobody has answered my question about why the pharmaceutical companies haven't come up with a drug to treat homosexuality. I'm not being cute. It's a serious question. Do any of you have any thoughts, opinions, or input on this question?

Because its psychological. I don't believe its a disease.
Its vile.

Psychological problems have treatments and medications available. If someone has depression or anxiety, they can receive therapy and medication to treat the symptoms. If someone has a fetish or paraphilia, this is identified in the DSM-IV as abnormal and atypical behavior and identified as a psychological disorder where treatment is also available. But when it comes to homosexuality, the DSM-IV doesn't classify it as a disorder or a paraphilia and there is no therapeutic treatment or medication available to treat it. So why are other psychological conditions and symptoms treated in the mental health field, but not homosexuality?
I have to agree. It is a shame on our country that we have so many gays. It is a disgusting act, and is an affront to G-d
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on December 10, 2007, 11:04:39 PM
I don't see whats the special problem with gat/lesbians. It's forbidden by the Noahide Law, but remember that idolatry is also forbidden, eating blood as well. I see noone here complaining about those who worship idols or eat blood sausage, or castrate animals. All Noahide violations!!!!
The few gays I know are agnostic, so I can't read the Noahide Laws to them. I have tried to convince many Christians to abstain from blood sausage and animal castration with little success. (except some Pentecostal Christians who accept to avoid blood, but they are quite anti-Semitic, and say Jews go to hell for rejecting Baptism!!!)
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on December 10, 2007, 11:34:22 PM
blood sausages? Never heard of it? What's the difference between a blood sausage and a sausage??
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: OdKahaneChai on December 10, 2007, 11:58:12 PM
blood sausages? Never heard of it? What's the difference between a blood sausage and a sausage??
I think he means sausage where the blood was not drained out properly, so that there is still some blood in it when the consumer gets a hold of it.
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on December 11, 2007, 02:05:13 AM
oh ok
But it's kind of misleading, because you can't call it blood sauges, unless it's intended to be like filled with blood or whatever.
Or mayby, he's just trying to once  again find something to say bad things about americans!
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on December 11, 2007, 02:47:20 AM
Blood Sausages are sausages entirely filled with blood taken when killing an animal (usually pigs). I just don't know if American eat such a thing. Most Argentinians do.They call it "morcilla" here. And it can be considered a violation of the Noahide Laws, since that blood is taken from the animal still alive. (Dam min HaChai).
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Ambiorix on December 11, 2007, 02:52:06 AM
I never ever eat that.
I think it is disgusting.
Most Belgian people think it is a delicatesse.
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Sarah on December 11, 2007, 10:40:47 AM
blood sausages? Never heard of it? What's the difference between a blood sausage and a sausage??

There is black pudding a sausage drenched in blood.
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: newman on December 11, 2007, 10:47:49 AM
blood sausages? Never heard of it? What's the difference between a blood sausage and a sausage??

There is black pudding a sausage drenched in blood.

The black pudding is also used as a weapon in the deadly Lancastrian martial art of Ekke Thump.
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Cato on December 11, 2007, 12:08:18 PM
Most of us couldn't give a hoot about gays if they confined their activities to their private homes and their campaign for rights ended 20 years ago when sodomy was decriminalised.

What infuriates us about fags is the radical fag lobby. They're not satisfied with the rights they have. They make more and more outrageous demands.

Demanding gay marriage.
Demanding the right to adopt children
Demanding the Red Cross accepts their blood
Demanding the right to address jnr highschoolers and give "OK to be gay" lectures
Publishing childrens books with gay thenes.......

It goes on and on.

Every group has the right to be left alone. NOBODY has the right to demand acceptance. If they let up. we'd leave them be. But they insist on getting political and having laws drafted that destroy our culture, so they're in the firing line.

Yes, sorry, but you are right again. I have a young son and if he turns out to be homosexual, then so be it. However, I would like it not to be the result of queers telling him in his early teens that being queer or straight is some sort of career choice which he is rerquired to make. They are not discriminated against, so why not shut the f... up??
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: JTFFan on December 11, 2007, 01:13:27 PM
Most of us couldn't give a hoot about gays if they confined their activities to their private homes and their campaign for rights ended 20 years ago when sodomy was decriminalised.

What infuriates us about fags is the radical fag lobby. They're not satisfied with the rights they have. They make more and more outrageous demands.

Demanding gay marriage.
Demanding the right to adopt children
Demanding the Red Cross accepts their blood
Demanding the right to address jnr highschoolers and give "OK to be gay" lectures
Publishing childrens books with gay thenes.......

It goes on and on.

Every group has the right to be left alone. NOBODY has the right to demand acceptance. If they let up. we'd leave them be. But they insist on getting political and having laws drafted that destroy our culture, so they're in the firing line.

Yes, sorry, but you are right again. I have a young son and if he turns out to be homosexual, then so be it. However, I would like it not to be the result of queers telling him in his early teens that being queer or straight is some sort of career choice which he is rerquired to make. They are not discriminated against, so why not shut the f... up??

Please, try not to use offensive language.
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on December 12, 2007, 01:33:52 AM
Most of us couldn't give a hoot about gays if they confined their activities to their private homes and their campaign for rights ended 20 years ago when sodomy was decriminalised.

What infuriates us about fags is the radical fag lobby. They're not satisfied with the rights they have. They make more and more outrageous demands.

Demanding gay marriage.
Demanding the right to adopt children
Demanding the Red Cross accepts their blood
Demanding the right to address jnr highschoolers and give "OK to be gay" lectures
Publishing childrens books with gay thenes.......

It goes on and on.

Every group has the right to be left alone. NOBODY has the right to demand acceptance. If they let up. we'd leave them be. But they insist on getting political and having laws drafted that destroy our culture, so they're in the firing line.

Yes, sorry, but you are right again. I have a young son and if he turns out to be homosexual, then so be it. However, I would like it not to be the result of queers telling him in his early teens that being queer or straight is some sort of career choice which he is rerquired to make. They are not discriminated against, so why not shut the f... up??

Please, try not to use offensive language.
lol, i think we understand how angry the Parent is-and we stand by you!
Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: Merkava on December 12, 2007, 03:38:18 PM
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Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: OdKahaneChai on December 12, 2007, 03:39:48 PM
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Title: Re: WHY SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ?
Post by: hworta on December 14, 2007, 01:26:35 AM
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Demanding gay marriage.
Thats wrong
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Demanding the right to adopt children
Noooooooo.....that will confuse the child and its sick
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Demanding the Red Cross accepts their blood
I think any blood that doesn't carry any diseases should be welcome. Nothing wrong with this
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Demanding the right to address jnr highschoolers and give "OK to be gay" lectures
Hmmm....it depends to what extent
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Publishing childrens books with gay thenes.......
No, no , no ,no.......Imagine a gay version of Cinderella


Homosexuals in America have an obcession with schools and our kids and that needs to stop.