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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7080327.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7080327.stm)
Pope Dhimmi after all??!!!
King Abdullah of Saudi-Arabia IN VATICAN!!!
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Historic Saudi visit to Vatican
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King Abdullah is on the third leg of a European tour
King meets Pope
King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia has met Pope Benedict XVI at the Vatican - the first audience by the head of the Roman Catholic Church with a Saudi monarch.
The private meeting lasted only 30 minutes, with both leaders speaking through interpreters. Afterwards, the king and the pope exchanged gifts.
The two sides have no diplomatic ties, although Abdullah met the late Pope John Paul II when he was crown prince.
The king later met the Vatican secretary of state for further talks.
Correspondents say the visit came as relations between the Vatican and the Muslim world are improving, more than a year after the crisis caused by a papal speech appearing to associate Islam with violence.
The 84-year-old Saudi monarch is on the third leg of a European tour after visiting the UK and Switzerland. He will travel next to Germany and Turkey.
Inter-faith dialogue
Pope Benedict warmly greeted King Abdullah at the Vatican on Tuesday, grasping both his hands before leading him to a library for their brief private meeting.
Afterwards, the king offered his host a gold sword encrusted with jewels. He was given a 16th Century engraving of the Vatican in return.
The most important thing is to get the possibility to gather in freedom and security for our worship
Bishop Paul Hinder
Emerging voice of Islam
Reports from the Vatican said Pope Benedict hoped the meeting would produce frank dialogue on the issue of worship by non-Muslims in Saudi Arabia, which faces strict curbs.
About a million Catholics, many of them migrant workers from the Philippines, live in the conservative desert kingdom, which is the home of Islam's holiest shrines.
They are allowed to worship in private, mostly in people's homes, but worship in public places and outward signs of faith, such as crucifixes, are forbidden.
Christians complain that rules are not clear and hardline Muslim authorities sometimes crack down on legitimate congregations.
Saudi Arabia has no legal protection for freedom of religion
"The most important thing is to get the possibility to gather in freedom and security for our worship, our masses and our activities," said Bishop Paul Hinder, responsible for Catholics in Arabia, in an interview with Reuters news agency.
The Saudi authorities cite a tradition of the Prophet Muhammad that only Islam can be practised in the Arabian Peninsula.
King Abdullah, who is styled the Custodian of the Two Sacred Mosques - in Mecca and Medina - is an advocate of cautious reform in Saudi Arabia, often against the wishes of the powerful conservative religious establishment.
The BBC's Frances Harrison in Rome says the symbolism of the meeting was huge for those who believe there should be more dialogue between Islam and Christianity, especially after the pontiff's controversial September 2006 speech at Regensburg University.
In it, he quoted Emperor Manuel II Paleologos of the Byzantine Empire, who said in the 14th Century that the Prophet Muhammad had brought only "evil and inhuman" things.
The pope later stressed that these had not been his own words and expressed regret for any offence they had caused.
In it, he quoted Emperor Manuel II Paleologos of the Byzantine Empire, who said in the 14th Century that the Prophet Muhammad had brought only "evil and inhuman" things. The pope later stressed that these had not been his own words and expressed regret for any offence they had caused.
Pope Dhimmi after all??
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The Vatican was all too happy to do deals with german-nazis. Why not muslim-nazis too?
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The Vatican was all too happy to do deals with german-nazis. Why not muslim-nazis too?
I don't know, Euhhh... :-\
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The Vatican was all too happy to do deals with german-nazis. Why not muslim-nazis too?
Yes, that is true.
Some prominent western political figures are becoming biggest dhimmis in history. I guess it got to Pope too. He should have stuck to his comments about Islam. But then again, liberals would eat him alive, and Muslims would burn few more churches and shoot dozens more nuns...
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The Vatican was all too happy to do deals with german-nazis. Why not muslim-nazis too?
Yes, that is true.
Some prominent western political figures are becoming biggest dhimmis in history. I guess it got to Pope too. He should have stuck to his comments about Islam. But then again, liberals would eat him alive, and Muslims would burn few more churches and shoot dozens more nuns...
We don't really know .
The Catholic Church is surendering itself in some countries to islam , stating that we all believe in the same "naziPLOHAMasGod"
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This church surrendered itself to NAZISM, in WWII.
It always supports NAZICROATS, even nowadays.
The pope is a former (really former ?) HITLERJUGEND.
Nothing curious about this church surrending to ISLAM.
Nothing new, in the west...
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I wonder if they would come out in huge numbers to see Pope Benedict XVI in Mecca? ::) I love how he made a comment about Islam being a historically-violent religion and they rioted, thus proving him right! 8)
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The Catholic Church is going to bed with everyone possesing power and influence since time of Contantine the Great; that one of the reasons I left Roman catholicism although many religion do this too, I"m not catholic basher the croatian clergy was only nazism one; in Poland German Nazis (2/3 of them protestant) send Polish catholic priests and nouns to concentration camps ; the problem is that this german Pope had no jewish friends like our late one had, don't undurstend their sensitivities; and he see the western liberalism as greater threat than Islam, he has some right the Islam is like bubonic plague but liberalism is like AIDS.