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http://www.victimsofjihad.com/showArticle.php?id=7&showCountryList=yes&passCountryId=10&contname=Europe&cname=Netherlands (http://www.victimsofjihad.com/showArticle.php?id=7&showCountryList=yes&passCountryId=10&contname=Europe&cname=Netherlands)
AMSTERDAM - For the first time in the Netherlands, a mosque has come out in support of female circumcision, according to a newspaper report Thursday.
The highly controversial statement on circumcision comes from a pamphlet "Fatwas of Muslim Women" provided by the El Tawheed mosque in Amsterdam for its open day. A fatwa is an official statement or order from an Islamic religious leader.
The pamphlet says that women who lie deserve 100 blows and the husband's duty of care for his wife is negated if she refuses him sex or leaves the home without his permission, newspaper Trouw reported.
There have been many claims in the media in recent years about "imported brides" who are forced by their husbands to stay in the family home - unless accompanied outside by a m le relative. Some of these women, it is claimed, live in total isolation from Dutch society.
The call for girls to be circumcised - removing part of the female genitalia - is likely to cause the biggest outcry so far. If done right, the mosque's pamphlet claims, circumcision is healthy for both boys and girls.
But unlike male circumcision - in which the mosque claims that for reasons of hygiene, the male's foreskin can be circumcised - there are absolutely no medical grounds for female circumcision.
Nevertheless, it urges that the foreskin of a girl's clitoris should be removed, but not the clitoris itself - as is often wrongly assumed to be the case. Removing the foreskin would help the woman keep her feelings of lust under control, the pamphlet says.
In recent weeks, politicians have called for the Dutch government to do more to stop the practice among immigrant communities. To date, the Health Ministry has ruled out compulsory checks on girls to make sure they have not been circumcised.
The Pharos health centre for refugees said never before has a mosque in the Netherlands come out publicly in support of female circumcision.
Ironically, El Tawheed Mosque organised the open day to counteract negative publicity caused by previous controversial statements made by one of its imams which were condemned as fostering anti-western and anti-woman bias.
On one highly-publicised occasion, an imam referred to non-Muslims as "firewood for hell" and he forbade Islamic women to leave the family home without the permission of their husbands.
"Fatwas of Muslim Women" continues on this theme and states that science has proved men and women differ in "biological nature, physical capabilities and mental capacity". It says it is unjust to give women the same "responsibilities, rights and duties as men".
The pamphlet, written by a "prominent imam" and published in Egypt in 2000, was one of the many booklets available at the open day.
Trouw noted "Fatwas of Muslim Women" lacks any biographical information about the author, Mufti Ibn Taymyah (or Taymiyya).
He lived in the 14 century and has been described by Arabism scholar Hans Jansen as an "influential ideologue for militant Islamists". Jansen has drawn comparisons between Taymyah and Osama bin Laden.
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On one highly-publicised occasion, an imam referred to non-Muslims as "firewood for hell" and he forbade Islamic women to leave the family home without the permission of their husbands.
I'd be glad to supply firewood for hell.
Considering most muslims won't burn on their own ,
why not give our friends little help?
I mean , aren't we supposed to help
some person in need for hellp ?
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On one highly-publicised occasion, an imam referred to non-Muslims as "firewood for hell" and he forbade Islamic women to leave the family home without the permission of their husbands.
I'd be glad to supply firewood for hell.
Considering most muslims won't burn on their own ,
why not give our friends little help?
I mean , aren't we supposed to help
some person in need for hellp ?
Haha. Excellent post.
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But seriously, how inhumane can this get? I thought Muslims have plummeted the depths of inhumanity - but they just keep on plummeting down and down and down...
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We have the moral obligation not to kill, to respect all laws of our countries.
Right now we are at war.
I am suggesting that a lot of muslims talk about the religion of peace, in the same time deny the Holocaust,
are racists (against all non-muslims, and all other sects in their religion), and are promoting ethnical genocide of non-Muslims.
What is the method to counteract this evil??
Disproportional use of violence, pure power. Overwhelm them with our military capabilities.
If you are a man , or a woman that cares about your country, religion, freedom, ethnicity,
than of course, you have doubts with the immigrants in Europe that follow their religion.
Because the nature of this religion is to kill and conquer, and to use lies about their religion (takia) as a method of infiltrating our governments, becoming majority, destroying Christianity, Judaism, Hindoism, etc...
They are forcing their way of life upon us, in their enclaves, with Sharia,
demanding halal food (also for the non-Muslims), separation of man and woman (also for the non-Muslims),
demanding Islam can't be mocked, or prohibiting satire, cartoons depicting their religion,... the list goes on and on...
All Muslims must realise they are at war with us.
All non-muslims must realise we are at war with them.
By suggesting to help muslims burn in hell , "if they need help, we have to help..."
I deliberately refer to the so-called "non-event of the Holocaust", but we "will wipe out the Jews in Israel"
That is what Ahmadinejad and David Duke want.
I think that the inhumane methods used by the Nazis , are not the only acts of barbarity in history.
The Soviets, the Chinese, and U.S.A. have committed atrocities,
Also the Christians. No nation can really claim it is perfect.
Whether on this forum people's comments are moral or immoral towards our enemies, I think is
so important, if we want to become a big mass-movement.
Therefore , it is necessary to explain , why we hate, and why we want to use force to fight back.
Otherwise our left-wing anti-semitical "friends", have a perfect tool to ridicule us ; stating we are a "racist", "terrorist" organisation.
If people only realise, our cause is just!
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On one highly-publicised occasion, an imam referred to non-Muslims as "firewood for hell" and he forbade Islamic women to leave the family home without the permission of their husbands.
I'd be glad to supply firewood for hell.
Considering most muslims won't burn on their own ,
why not give our friends little help?
I mean , aren't we supposed to help
some person in need for hellp ?
Haha. Excellent post.
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But seriously, how inhumane can this get? I thought Muslims have plummeted the depths of inhumanity - but they just keep on plummeting down and down and down...
Just when you think muzzies cannot sink any lower, they beat their record. Nothing they do surprises me anymore. islam is a satanic barbaric deathcult and although they have restrictions on their barbarity, barbarism cannot be confined within boundaries or restraints.
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Female circumcision what a barbaric animal act.
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Female circumcision what a barbaric animal act.
It is a practice that started with africans in pre islamic times.