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Save Western Civilization => Save America => Topic started by: El Cabong! on August 25, 2006, 11:16:42 AM
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I receive this newsletter almost everyday and this topic really got me ticked off. Democrat California Assembly Speaker Fabian Nunez is trying to pass a bill that would bar any schoolteacher and school counselor from discussing the dangers in homosexual behavior and the downfalls of molestation and perversion and to encourage them to discuss these topics in a positive light. Here is the full text:
This Is Alain's Newsletter
Conervative - Christian - Politically Active
SPECIAL EDITION
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Why liberals are crushing dissent
Kevin McCullough
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August 25, 2006 -- Liberals are actively undermining First Amendment rights to free speech by trying to crush opposing views.
Growing ever bolder in their naked grab for power they are leaving scorched earth behind those who disagree with them. This is why deleted Gephardt, Joe Lieberman and Zell Miller no longer find themselves included in the modern Democratic Party. What is left over for the Democrats are wildly anti-American, anti-God and anti-biblical leftists who are now bragging about their use of brute force to crush the voices of those who disagree with them.
Perhaps that's why this week in one of the boldest moves yet by a sitting liberal, Democrat California Assembly Speaker Fabian Nunez proclaimed, "The real purpose of SB 1437 is to outlaw traditional perspectives on marriage and family in the state school system."
He continued, "The way you correct a wrong (perspective) is by outlawing. 'Cause if you don't outlaw it, then people's biases tend to take over and dominate the perspective and the point of view."
Nunez's solution to the people he disagrees with is to outlaw their ability to disagree with him.
And Nunez's viewpoint is one that pervades liberals in his party and in the nation. That is why Nunez and his fellow Democrats in the California State Assembly voted in unison to pass four bills that are all designed to punish people who disagree with them. To incarcerate someone for daring to criticize a different point of view – over a purely behavioral issue.
The bills in question have passed both houses and await Gov. Schwarzenegger's signature or veto. The bills were unanimously embraced by the Democrats and universally denounced by the Republicans.
What do they say?
These four bills would require that in every classroom from kindergarten through high school perverse sexual activity be praised and highlighted in a positive light. They would require textbooks, many of which would then also be produced for other states beyond the borders of California, make positive references to the ideas of men putting on women's under things. They would restrict school districts from being able to bar females from displaying [censored] on the outerwear of their prom dress. And in functional sexuality courses from K-12, they would require positive explanation of the merits and instruction of anal intercourse.
These four bills are also dangerous in what they outlaw. No single teacher – not even in science classes – would be allowed to talk about the negative health impact of homosexual behavior. No school counselor would be allowed to confirm to a molested student that they felt wrong about continuing in a homosexual relationship that they were primarily drawn into because of earlier molestation to begin with. No mention of moral aspects of sexual behavior would be permitted unless immoral activity were praised and in fact referred to as moral.
In other words, the pushing of the sexual envelope would be unleashed with a nitro-fueled explosion the likes of which has never been seen in America's history.
One of the bills goes a step further. Its actual purpose is to cripple any state resources such as fire or police protection for any religious institution – i.e., a Bible-based church – that would in any way demonstrate negative "doctrine" or "propaganda." So if an arsonist (who also just happened to be a radical activist) decided to burn down a church that was in their view teaching the faithful interpretation of Scripture as it relates to sexual practice, then the local fire company could be barred from assisting in the recovery and protection of said facility.
So why are liberals going to such extremes to shut down and shut out any opposing view?
Because they are a stubborn and sinful people – people that are bent on reshaping a utopia that God did not design and one that will never exist.
Just because the entire world claims there is no God doesn't make Him disappear. Just because a majority of voters might even say that two men hooking up is the moral equivalence of marriage doesn't mean it is marriage.
Liberals are wracked with guilt because the conscience that God put inside of them has told them again and again that such things are wrong. But instead of choosing to change their view, they have instead chosen to crush anyone and everyone who would give support to the message that their heart already knows.
Without Judeo-Christian morals, there would be no society in place today that would have allowed freedom of speech. And as the moral framework of the Judeo-Christian society that America has always been is systematically being targeted for erasure, the little power mongers and dictators are already aligning to rule with absolute say.
Speaker Nunez's view to "outlaw traditional perspectives" is shocking in its blunt regurgitation. It is also, sadly, not new to the hard left in America. And without the power of debate, ideas and dissent it is being given a larger and larger place at the table.
So the godless have announced their intentions and now it is up to us to speak – while we still have voice. Call Gov. Schwarzenegger today at 916-445-2841 and ask him to protect free speech and perspectives of many sorts.
Moral guilt serves its purpose and the best way to rid one's self of it is to change behavior. To attempt to appease it by stifling those you disagree with will only cause it to grow.
What happens when the opposition is gone and the guilt still pervades?
Common sense has been telling us this for years – will we listen?
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If Californians do not fight against such abominations then they deserve to have a massive earthquake and sink to the bottom of the Pacific. Their disgusting lack of morals and values put them in the same category as the ones they are trying to defend.
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You know how you fix this? Get your kids out of socialist propaganda, morally bankrupt school systems and send them to religious private schools or home school your kids.
They get a much better education (the actual purpose of school - which these school boards forgot about) and will be shielded from the ignorant, evil, homo-pushing, family killing, gang-like, hip-hop orgy-free-for-all called public schools.
When no one comes to class anymore except the social rejects who's parents haven't got a clue, they'll wonder what hit them. It would work... but it would require thought and effort... something most of these morons don't really know much about.
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That's what you get when you let Third World people from Mexico take over the leadership in The State Assembly.
Well, my guess is this guy was born here, and all the Mexican immigrants I know are against homosexualtiy and perversion, it's really a phenomenon that happens to them when they're born here they become more liberal and leftist than their parents who came here to work and have a better life. And living in a liberal state like California doesn't help.
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That's what you get when you let Third World people from Mexico take over the leadership in The State Assembly.
Well, my guess is this guy was born here, and all the Mexican immigrants I know are against homosexualtiy and perversion, it's really a phenomenon that happens to them when they're born here they become more liberal and leftist than their parents who came here to work and have a better life. And living in a liberal state like California doesn't help.
Doesn't what you said about Mexican immigrants wanting to be here to have a better life contradict what JTF stands for?
I don't know what you mean.
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is it at all possible to determine that things like homosexuality are facts of life whether we like it or not and find some kind of constructive way of dealing with it rather than demonizing it?
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is it at all possible to determine that things like homosexuality are facts of life whether we like it or not and find some kind of constructive way of dealing with it rather than demonizing it?
No. Not for me.
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even though no matter what we may say or do Homosexuality wont go away? you would still feel the same then?
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Jewishron, do you feel the same way about pedophilia? That has always existed and a 100% effective cure has never been found
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is it at all possible to determine that things like homosexuality are facts of life whether we like it or not and find some kind of constructive way of dealing with it rather than demonizing it?
I'm not demonizing the homosexual perverts. I not going to say things like "wicked" or "sick" or "sexual deviant". You're right. I'm going to take a stand and be straight. It's queer to shame them like that... I mean... what a pain in the rear. We just stick it to them all the time when they are just trying to love other men. Stick it to them... over and over again. And they're so tense with humiliation that they just stay holed up and feel the need to release in the end. This is why they stand up to us and have decorative parades of injustice. There are all types under the rainbow... maybe we should bury the hatchet... put ourselves in their pants for once and come to terms.
I feel bad I ever called them "depraved", "abomination", or "faggot". I should have never called them "pansy" or "fairy" or "shameless self-worshiping sodomite". No, I don't want to them to feel abnormal tendencies. Where's the happiness? If we understood they would be gay!
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LOL!
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Jewishron, do you feel the same way about pedophilia? That has always existed and a 100% effective cure has never been found
No of course I dont. Pedophilia is a crime against children. Homosexuality providing it is with adults is not a crime and nor should it be. I prefer to keep the Government out of our bedrooms. I dont understand homosexuality but I do understand it is a fact of life that provided it is with adults it is a victimless act. To brush away Homosexuality as an abomination of sex and so on would do no one any good. We would all be spinning our tires about an issue that will not go away ever. What good does that do homosexuals or the straight community?
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Look at it this way, in ancient Greece pedophilia, in particular the relationship between a older man and a young boy was considered the "true love" and pedophilia and homosexuality were widespread. As was the case in Rome, though they werent so into pedophilia. So by stigmatizing these behaviors and offering treatment it is possible to minimize such actions. Besides which the Torah says these actions are Issur and the Torah doesnt give impossible commandments so it must be possible to overcome these desires.
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Homosexuality, pedophilia, perversion is all against nature and G-d. Therefore we should not condone it, tolerate it, or learn to live with it.
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Jewishron said: "Homosexuality . . . is a victimless act."
Rubbish. Ever hear of AIDS?
You are a liberal.
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No of course I don't. Pedophilia is a crime against children. Homosexuality providing it is with adults is not a crime and nor should it be. I prefer to keep the Government out of our bedrooms. I don't understand homosexuality but I do understand it is a fact of life that provided it is with adults it is a victimless act. To brush away Homosexuality as an abomination of sex and so on would do no one any good. We would all be spinning our tires about an issue that will not go away ever. What good does that do homosexuals or the straight community?
Because it's perverted and corrupts our society... I stand against homosexuality firmly and I am open and honest about that. While I won't search out gays... they continue to search us out and parade their perverted garbage in my streets and push their agenda into my space.
They are pushy, disgusting, and pathetic excuses for human waste. They are anti-family (one man and one woman) and constantly lobby for laws that cause problems for the family unit and it's structure.
If they were "behind closed doors" then you would never hear about "gay rights" or "gay pride" or "trans-gender"... so I am standing up against these evil people and their sick and self-deceiving agenda.
You seriously need to read "The Marketing of Evil" by David Kupelian (ISBN: 1581824599):
http://www.amazon.com/-Marketing-Evil-How/dp/1581824599
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Jewishron said: "Homosexuality . . . is a victimless act."
Rubbish. Ever hear of AIDS?
You are a liberal.
Wrong... what is it with you and labels? and labeling people? that is very hitleresque' of you.
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Wrong... what is it with you and labels? and labeling people? that is very hitleresque' of you.
Umm... am labels are bad because...??
I'm a "Jew". That's a label. I'm "American" (wish I was "Israeli")... that's a label. Let's see... I'm "Educated", "Straight" and "Human". All labels.
Who said labels are immoral if they are true?
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Wrong... what is it with you and labels? and labeling people? that is very hitleresque' of you.
Umm... am labels are bad because...??
I'm a "Jew". That's a label. I'm "American" (wish I was "Israeli")... that's a label. Let's see... I'm "Educated", "Straight" and "Human". All labels.
Who said labels are immoral if they are true?
Those are facts not labels. What I mean if attaching labels to a person that are 1 not correct and 2 inspire negativity. calling someone a "liberal" is the same thing as saying they are stupid, and calling someone conservative is saying they are insensitive. This only works if a conservative is calling someone a liberal and vice versa. Labeling this way is an attack mechanism designed to insult and provocate the other.
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We need politicians like this:
New Zealand MP Bob Clarkson attacks gays & muslims:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=1&ObjectID=10398183
Any true Jew / Christian should detest gay behaviour. It is a mental disorder and obviously imparted by demonic influence on fags and dykes.
It is such a shame that the Israeli government tolerates fag pride march in the Holiest City on the face of the earth.
More Fag Facts:
# On April 25, 2001, the CDC reported that "We are seeing substantial increases in sexually transmitted diseases among men who have sex with men in multiple locations across this country." (31, 32).
# Fags are responsible for the "first sexually transmitted outbreak of typhoid fever" in the history of the United States. This disease is caused by ingesting human feces (32).
# More than 10% of fags in major U.S. urban areas are infected with HIV. To this day, they still make up more than 50% of reported AIDS cases in the United States (30, 31).
# Fags fellate almost 100% of their sexual contacts and ingest semen from about half of those. Semen contains virtually every germ carried in the blood stream, so this is about equivalent to ingesting raw human blood (6).
# One study reports 70% of fags admitting to having sex only one time with over 50% of their partners (3).
# One study reports that the average fag has between 20 and 106 partners per year (6). The average heterosexual has 8 partners in a lifetime.
# Sperm readily penetrates the anal wall (which is only one cell thick) and gains direct access to the blood stream. This causes massive immunological damage to the body's T- and B-cell defensive systems (14).
# 50% of male syphilis is carried by fags as a rectal infection and can enter through the urethra of another fag during anal sex (7).
# Around 67-80% of fags lick and/or insert their tongues into the anuses of their partners (called "rimming", anilingus, fecal sex, etc.) and ingest biologically significant amounts of feces (7), which is the chief cause of hepatitis and parasitic infections among fags 8. This practice is called the "prime taste treat in sex" in the bestseller The Joy of Gay Sex.
# 33% of fags admit to fisting (inserting the hand, sometimes part of the arm, into the rectum of his partner) (7).
# Urinating on each other ("golden showers") and torture has doubled among fags since the 1940s, and fisting has increased astronomically (7).
# 17% of fags eat and/or rub the feces of their partners on themselves (4).
# 12% of fags give/receive enemas as part of sexual pleasure (4).
# In one study, the average fag fellated somewhere between 20 and 106 men, swallowed 50 seminal discharges, had 72 penile penetrations of the anus, and ingested feces of 23 different men EVERY YEAR (6).
# Many fag sexual encounters occur while drunk, high on drugs, or in an orgy setting (7).
# Many fags don't pay heed to warnings of their lifestyles: "Knowledge of health guidelines was quite high, but this knowledge had no relation to sexual behavior" (16).
# Activities of fags involve rimming (anilingus), golden showers, fisting, and using "toys" (21).
# Fags got homosexuality removed from the list of mental illnesses in the early 70s by storming the annual American Psychiatric Association (APA) conference on successive years. "Guerrilla theater tactics and more straight-forward shouting matches characterized their presence" (2). Since homosexuality has been removed from the APA list of mental illnesses, so has pedophilia (except when the adult feels "subjective distress") (27).
# Fags account for 3-4% of all gonorrhea cases, 60% of all syphilis cases, and 17% of all hospital admissions (other than for STDs) in the United States (5). They make up only 1-2% of the population.
# Fags live unhealthy lifestyles, and have historically accounted for the bulk of syphilis, gonorrhea, Hepatitis B, the "gay bowel syndrome" (which attacks the intestinal tract), tuberculosis and cytomegalovirus (27).
# 73% of psychiatrists say fags are less happy than the average person, and of those psychiatrists, 70% say that the unhappiness is NOT due to social stigmatization (13).
# 25-33% of fags and dykes are alcoholics (11).
# Of fags questioned in one study, 43% admitted to 500 or more partners in a lifetime, 28% admitted to 1000 or more in a lifetime, and of these people, 79% said that half of those partners were total strangers, and 70% of those sexual contacts were one night stands (or, as one fag admits in the film "The Castro," one minute stands) (3). Also, it is a favorite past-time of many fags to go to "cruisy areas" and have anonymous sex.
# 78% of fags are affected by STDs (20).
# Judge John Martaugh, chief magistrate of the New York City Criminal Court has said, "Homosexuals account for half the murders in large cities" (10).
# Captain William Riddle of the Los Angeles Police says, "30,000 sexually abused children in Los Angeles were victims of homosexuals" (10).
# 50% of suicides can be attributed to fags (10).
# Dr. Daniel Capron, a practicing psychiatrist, says, "Homosexuality by definition is not healthy and wholesome. The homosexual person, at best, will be unhappier and more unfulfilled than the sexually normal person" (10). For other psychiatrists who believe that homosexuality is wrong, please see National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality.
# It takes approximately $300,000 to take care of each AIDS victim, so thanks to the promiscuous lifestyle of fags, medical insurance rates have been skyrocketing for all of us(10).
# One study reports that 90% of fags have engaged in anal sex, and 66% engage in anal sex regularly (6).
# Fags were responsible for spreading AIDS in the United States, and then raised up violent groups like Act Up and Ground Zero to complain about it. Even today, fags account for well over 50% of the AIDS cases in the United States, which is quite a large number considering that they account for only 1-2% of the population.
# Fags account for a disproportionate number of hepatitis cases: 70-80% in San Francisco, 29% in Denver, 66% in New York City, 56% in Toronto, 42% in Montreal, and 26% in Melbourne
# 10% of fags admit to eating feces and/or drinking contaminated enema water
# 29% of fags engage in urine sex ("golden showers")
# 37% of fags engage in sadomasochism, which accounts for many accidental deaths. In San Francisco, classes were held to teach fags how to not kill their partners during sadomasochism
# In large cities, hospitals are often called on to remove objects from the rectums of fags. Sometimes, the fags do so much damage that they have to wear colostomy bags for the rest of their lives
# 41% of fags say they have had sex with strangers in public restrooms, 60% say they have had sex with strangers in bathhouses, and 64% of these encounters have involved the use of illegal drugs
# Depending on the city, 39-59% of fags are infected with intestinal parasites like worms, flukes and amoebae, which is common in filthy third world countries
# The median age of death of fags is 42 (only 9% live past age 65). This drops to 39 if the cause of death is AIDS. The median age of death of a married heterosexual man is 75
# The median age of death of dykes is 45 (only 24% live past age 65). The median age of death of a married heterosexual woman is 79
# Fags are 100 times more likely to be murdered (usually by another fag) than the average person, 25 times more likely to commit suicide, and 19 times more likely to die in a traffic accident
# 21% of dykes die of murder, suicide or traffic accident, which is at a rate of 534 times higher than the number of white heterosexual females aged 25-44 who die of these things
# 50% of the calls to a hotline to report "queer bashing" involved domestic violence (i.e., fags beating up other fags)
# About 50% of the women on death row are dykes
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(31) Center for Disease Control
(32) Associated Press, April 25, 2001
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Those are facts not labels. What I mean if attaching labels to a person that are 1 not correct and 2 inspire negativity. calling someone a "liberal" is the same thing as saying they are stupid, and calling someone conservative is saying they are insensitive. This only works if a conservative is calling someone a liberal and vice versa. Labeling this way is an attack mechanism designed to insult and provocate the other.
You called yourself liberal. Also, liberal isn't an insult to liberals... it's what they believe and call themselves. So how does that fit into your idea of a label then?
christianzionist, GOOD POST!
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Let us avoid fighting and insults, we can stick to ideas there is no need to resort to insults and name calling
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I don't want to be a hater. I have known homos and many of them are nice people. But, the unfortunate stuff that comes along with such behaviors ALWAYS leads to a downfall of the quality of life. We should discourage such behaviors. When you look at most ancient cultures, there are reasons why they are no longer with us. Such as Greek homosexuality. Judaism NEEDED to happen. That's why it is still with us.
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I don't know if anyone on this forum went to Bronx Science, but I had a physics teacher named Peter Melzer who was the secretary of a group called NAMBLA. The North American Man Boy Love Association. Being a desent school the PTA got up in arms when they found out and he was removed. Bronx Science was an honors school. I wonder if that would happen with at the typical innercity school where the parents don't care about their children these days.
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Homosexuality is wrong, it's immoral, it is perverse, and against all natural conventional wisdoms. It breeds perversion and sickness in the minds of all who practice it.
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I cant help to think that when i hear people become overly defensive about their positions on an issue like homosexuality that they themselves may harbor some gay feelings; that is a just a theory i happen to agree with. If your not being enticed or forced to practice it yourselves why is everyone here so up in arms about what others do? Please spare me what the Torah says in this regard I cant stand people who flee to the holy book when it suits them and their point of view.
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I cant help to think that when i hear people become overly defensive about their positions on an issue like homosexuality that they themselves may harbor some gay feelings; that is a just a theory i happen to agree with. If your not being enticed or forced to practice it yourselves why is everyone here so up in arms about what others do? Please spare me what the Torah says in this regard I cant stand people who flee to the holy book when it suits them and their point of view.
In case you didn't notice, this forum is a place for Jews and righteous Gentiles to voice their ideas and opinions. The Torah is the focal point of Judaism and the cornerstone of Christianity. If you don't like hearing what the Torah says perhaps you should find another forum that would be better suit your needs.
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I cant help to think that when i hear people become overly defensive about their positions on an issue like homosexuality that they themselves may harbor some gay feelings; that is a just a theory i happen to agree with. If your not being enticed or forced to practice it yourselves why is everyone here so up in arms about what others do? Please spare me what the Torah says in this regard I cant stand people who flee to the holy book when it suits them and their point of view.
In case you didn't notice, this forum is a place for Jews and righteous Gentiles to voice their ideas and opinions. The Torah is the focal point of Judaism and the cornerstone of Christianity. If you don't like hearing what the Torah says perhaps you should find another forum that would be better suit your needs.
Thanks for the input but I am fine right here... And I never said "I dont like hearing what the torah has to say". I said I dont like people who use it only when it suits their needs. Big Difference.
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I cant help to think that when i hear people become overly defensive about their positions on an issue like homosexuality that they themselves may harbor some gay feelings; that is a just a theory i happen to agree with. If your not being enticed or forced to practice it yourselves why is everyone here so up in arms about what others do? Please spare me what the Torah says in this regard I cant stand people who flee to the holy book when it suits them and their point of view.
I would disagree, I really hate pedophiles and yet I feel absolutely no desire to do things of that nature to children. I am against such behavior because it is evil. I feel the same way about homosexuality though I regard it as a tayva a negative desire which must be fought against. As long as the person doesnt act upon it they are not evil
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Ya, and I hate muslims but you don't see me running up to be one because of secret envy. It's usually the people defending a behaviour that are guilty of the likeness.
jewishron, you are making a big mistake assuming that we use Torah only to suit our point of view. You obviously haven't been in this forum long. Do you have something against religious Jews?
For someone who claims not to use labels, you sure appear to be a hypocrite.
If your not being enticed or forced to practice it yourselves why is everyone here so up in arms about what others do?
Are you serious? It's being forced down our throats! Everywhere you turn, it's all about gays being victims.
They are trying to change marriage (a traditional concept by all means) to make it even more worthless, they have huge gay pride parades in Israel with children (and the rest of the world), they spread AIDS and other STDs, they push their sick lifestyles onto TV for kids to watch who are too young to understand morality, they force kids to learn about it in school, they petition our government constantly for special rights and privileges, they hit on decent straight men, talk in that horrible way (loudy), flaunt everything they can, ignore all modesty or human dignity, they run so much of the corrupt fashion and entertainment industry, they often molest little boys, and they are abominations to G-d.
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Jewishron said: "Homosexuality . . . is a victimless act."
Rubbish. Ever hear of AIDS?
You are a liberal.
Wrong... what is it with you and labels? and labeling people? that is very hitleresque' of you.
JewishRon,
Are you not labeling Yephora by referring to her as 'hitleresque'?
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Jewishron said: "Homosexuality . . . is a victimless act."
Rubbish. Ever hear of AIDS?
You are a liberal.
Wrong... what is it with you and labels? and labeling people? that is very hitleresque' of you.
JewishRon,
Are you not labeling Yephora by referring to her as 'hitleresque'?
yes i was in retaliation to her labeling of me... I shouldnt have done it. it was hypocritical of me
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I cant help to think that when i hear people become overly defensive about their positions on an issue like homosexuality that they themselves may harbor some gay feelings; that is a just a theory i happen to agree with. If your not being enticed or forced to practice it yourselves why is everyone here so up in arms about what others do? Please spare me what the Torah says in this regard I cant stand people who flee to the holy book when it suits them and their point of view.
Yes and all who are against terrorism harbor some terroristic feeling, all who are against pedophilia harbor some paedophile feelings, all who are against rape harbor some ravishing feelings, all who are against anti-Semitism harbor some anti-Semitic feelings, etc., etc... blah blah blah, yadda yadda yadda.
Do you see how stupid your comment was? The only people I've heard make the comment that those who are against homosexuality harbor some homosexual feelings were all faggots. Hmmmm..... maybe you're gay? If you are then you need to find another forum because we don't like that [censored] here. Only real men and women need post here, not perverse homos with a hidden agenda.
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I cant help to think that when i hear people become overly defensive about their positions on an issue like homosexuality that they themselves may harbor some gay feelings; that is a just a theory i happen to agree with. If your not being enticed or forced to practice it yourselves why is everyone here so up in arms about what others do? Please spare me what the Torah says in this regard I cant stand people who flee to the holy book when it suits them and their point of view.
Yes and all who are against terrorism harbor some terroristic feeling, all who are against pedophilia harbor some paedophile feelings, all who are against rape harbor some ravishing feelings, all who are against anti-Semitism harbor some anti-Semitic feelings, etc., etc... blah blah blah, yadda yadda yadda.
Do you see how stupid your comment was? The only people I've heard make the comment that those who are against homosexuality harbor some homosexual feelings were all faggots. Hmmmm..... maybe you're gay? If you are then you need to find another forum because we don't like that deleted here. Only real men and women need post here, not perverse homos with a hidden agenda.
I am not going anywhere. sorry but your bullying doesnt scare me. I am not a homosexual and certainly wouldnt be ashamed about it if I were.
If only real men and real women need to post here then what are you doing posting here. you sound like a troubled person with an identity crisis who is so threatened at anyone who suggest an alternitive point of view to yours... No intelligent, mature person would ever use the word "faggot"... what a disgrace you are to judaism
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I am not going anywhere. sorry but your bullying doesnt scare me. I am not a homosexual and certainly wouldnt be ashamed about it if I were.
No intelligent, mature person would ever use the word "faggot"... what a disgrace you are to judaism
Ummm... No intelligent person would claim a religious Jew was a disgrace for standing against homosexual perverts if Judaism (G-d) says:
Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Do you even KNOW what Judaism is, you moron? What planet are you on? I think Judaism looks like it's pretty decided on the whole issue of sodomites.
If only real men and real women need to post here then what are you doing posting here. you sound like a troubled person with an identity crisis who is so threatened at anyone who suggest an alternitive point of view to yours...
You're the only person who seems troubled in here... you can't look at an alternative point of view to yours! Insanity.
You know why you aren't practing Biblical principals? Because you want what you want and you can't handle the truth. Shame on you!
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Re: "...Jewishron said: "Homosexuality . . . is a victimless act."
VICTIMLESS ACT???
YOU WOULDN'T SAY THAT IF YOU HAD SAT THROUGH THAT TERRIBLE BROADWAY SHOW LAST WEEKEND!
According to comic Jackie Mason: "...a Broadway Show is 150 homosexuals doing a dance routine..."
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Re: "...Jewishron said: "Homosexuality . . . is a victimless act."
VICTIMLESS ACT???
YOU WOULDN'T SAY THAT IF YOU HAD SAT THROUGH THAT TERRIBLE BROADWAY SHOW LAST WEEKEND!
According to comic Jackie Mason: "...a Broadway Show is 150 homosexuals doing a dance routine..."
THATS FUNNY... BUT HE FORGOT THE 500 HOMOSEXUALS IN THE AUDIENCE. HOW WAS THE SHOW?
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u all have to understand that homosexuality is a decision that people make themselves, it is there fault if it turns to [censored] and blows right back in their face. we should be excepting by people and their lifestyles....unless they are islamic or neo nazi in that case i wish them aids. Those bastards are the ones who desevrve to die, not our fellow men. i myself am straight but i believe in the equal rights of others unless they are casuing me harm. right now we should be focusing on those fascist SOB's. EVERYONE ONE OF THEM DESERVES TO DIE SLOW AND VERY VERY PAINFULLY!
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Ohh........ :o
I have heard prophecies that California will fall into the Pacific Ocean...perhaps it could be true now......
They already have all those fire problems at the moment....