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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: newman on November 23, 2007, 07:01:19 AM
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Raulmarrio2000 is a troll!
Below is just some of his posts over the last two weeks!
He is anti-American, a hater of the west and a supporter of the third world. I suspect he supports the mexican reconquista.
on: Today at 04:07:17 AM: Some people ( not going to mention them, not to commit lashon Hara) used to spell Jesus as Yesh"u (Ymach Shemo Vezichro- May his name and memory be blotted) in Kahane org. and now they respect him here!!!!! Funny!!!!!
on: November 20, 2007, 06:14:59 AM: This forum is just providing a place for Nazis, so they can speak freely and use the Jews as a shield. Coming to a "Jewish" forum frees them form any accusation of Nazism. May Hashem awake the Admins!!!!!
on: November 20, 2007, 05:37:13 AM:When will we need to say Heil Hitler to enter this for? It already seems to have been completely hijacked by Nazism, Really sad!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BTW, how can a user delete an acount and all posts. Really I think writing here only harms the Jews.
on: November 15, 2007, 12:38:04 PM:You just hate Africa. I only remind you that the world is not yours. And I have every right to help Africa. And the Western Nazis who enslaved Africans should pay compensations. You love the West who burned Jews through Iquisition, kidnapped selfless Africans, and decimated our natives. May Hashem send Redemption soon, and take the Twelve Tribes of Israel back to the Holy Land, and also take us to one of our own Seventy Nations.
You have no right to take the Name in vain, and place it in a Nazi post!!!!!
on: November 15, 2007, 11:58:12 AM :America is the Land of Amerindians, just like Israel is the Land of the Israelites.
And no matter if you consider Amerindians primitive. It's thier land. Not to steal is a Noahide Law.
I am NOT leftist, and I think Europeans invaded America
on: November 14, 2007, 03:51:25 PM :Well, Americans are not Jewish neither Noahides. So if they did not respect the Koran they wouldn't respect the Sefer Torah either. What if a policeman or customs official touches a Sefer Torah with bare hands? Awfull!!!! Then better let them respect the Koran, as far as they also respect the Torah
on: November 11, 2007, 07:43:10 PM:I believe Mt. Gerizim is the Chosen Place.
on: November 11, 2007, 04:24:57 PM: You support Christians ruling America, and you say Jesus is not the Mashiach. Excuse me, but it sounds selfish to me. In fact you are convinced that Christians are wrong, but just want them to rule over Americans as a strategy. If you are convinced that Torah and Talmud are right you sould wish Noahides govern America!!!
I dislike Americans, but respect American innocent children.
on: November 10, 2007, 09:39:36 PM: If I were in America I would not respect it. Anyway you have one year to think about it. Today's veteran day is also Rosh Chodesh Kislev, and it is forbidden to mourn on Rosh Chodesh.
on: November 09, 2007, 01:32:30 PM:If you want to honour American veterans, do it yourself, I don't aim to go to your hoiuse to prevent it!!! But I shall not give any honor to evil countries, neither shall I keep silent.
on: November 09, 2007, 01:57:43 AM: What kind of freedon do you have? The American Govt. speaks in the name of everyone living in America, including you. And they say Har Habayt is Arab. So they are forcing you to say it's Arab. They speak also for you.
But you are right, Yisrael. I cannot speak about America since I'm forbidden to recognise it as a State/s. And so I can't condemn any State/ Institution which I have declared as never existent. However I have every right to condemn them as individuals for their evil
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on: November 11, 2007, 04:24:57 PM: You support Christians ruling America, and you say Jesus is not the Mashiach. Excuse me, but it sounds selfish to me. In fact you are convinced that Christians are wrong, but just want them to rule over Americans as a strategy. If you are convinced that Torah and Talmud are right you sould wish Noahides govern America!!!
I dislike Americans, but respect American innocent children.
eh...excuse ,me!!!!
A few hours ago, you were speaking awfull words about Christians, and now you're defending them!
I don't know what to say about this guy, other than he's an imposter!
Thanks Newman for exposing him
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I actually don't think Raulmarrio2000 is a troll at all. He's just... very interesting. Although his ideas and beliefs are strange, it is not out of the question for someone to hold the beliefs that he does. Most of his ideas are at least backed up with some sort of logic or rationale. Whether you agree with his opinions or not is one thing, but that doesn't necessarily mean he's a troll.
I think he brings interesting and diverse ideas to the forum.
His beliefs about natives being the true owners of their land is consistent with Jews' claim to Israel.
Sure, it ignores the fact that in Australia and the U.S. there were tons of land that weren't being utilized to its full capacity and tons of resources that weren't being tapped into and Western civilization came in and made the land productive and bountiful, but his ideas are certainly valid.
He seems to dislike the United States and Americans, but he's still a supporter of Israel.
I don't agree with much of what he says, but I believe that he's sincere.
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He's VERY pro-Israel, and pro-Judaism, and I think he should at least be respected for that, regardless of some strange beliefs he has regarding religion.
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JTF's brief is to save Israel AND the west. Not save Israel and the third world while perpetuating white guilt and self-hate in the west.
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JTF's brief is to save Israel AND the west. Not save Israel and the third world while perpetuating white guilt and self-hate in the west.
I haven't seen anything from him that explicitly says that he supports the third world in any way that would harm the U.S., unless when he says that he supports Native American rights in the U.S. I'm not sure the extent that he takes this to, I don't think he's advocating the destruction of the U.S. I think Native Americans should be left alone on their reservations, should be able to run casinos and ingest peyote to their hearts' content. He said that he believes that blacks are entitled to Africa, which is fully in-line with what JTF believes. I think that they are entitled to Africa and we should facilitate their dream of returning to their homeland by sending them on the first boat there .(seaworthy or not)
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He's VERY pro-Israel, and pro-Judaism, and I think he should at least be respected for that, regardless of some strange beliefs he has regarding religion.
Thats about the only thing he has going for him. I think thats a blind to keep his foot in the door so he can spout all his other drivel but thats my opinion. I really don't see any consistency in his positions. I guess time will tell.
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This forum is just providing a place for Nazis, so they can speak freely and use the Jews as a shield. Coming to a "Jewish" forum frees them form any accusation of Nazism. May Hashem awake the Admins!!!!!
How many nazis like Jews...lol?
That is like saying the NAACP is a place for klansmen to hide behind blacks.
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Can you explain what is a "troll"? I havent found that word in my dictionary, nor in my PC computer.
And what is the Mexican reconquista? I just dont't know. If it means that Mexican Amerindians would take Mexico DF and call itTenochtitlan again... then I would support it.
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A troll is someone who posts stuff purposely to rile up a forum, and doesn't really believe in what they post. They purposely cause division. That's the definition.
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Newman is absolutely right about this.
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I think it means for Mexico to re-occupy The American Southwest which was part of New Spain but has no ties to Third World Mexico.
Then, absolutely NO. Spanish claims are even worse than other European claims. Spaniards were the first to start the invasion, on the same day they began to burn Jews. Among Europeans I prefer Anglos to Sapnish. So much that I live here and say the Falkland are British. And I was very much interested in the unity of Canada when Quebec wanted to secceed. Never a pro-French State!!!! Never, France is already to much!!!! A NKM forumer once said that US should have bombed France after Afganistan!
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I think it means for Mexico to re-occupy The American Southwest which was part of New Spain but has no ties to Third World Mexico.
Then, absolutely NO. Spanish claims are even worse than other European claims. Spaniards were the first to start the invasion, on the same day they began to burn Jews. Among Europeans I prefer Anglos to Sapnish. So much that U live here and say the Falkland are British. And I was very much interested in the unity of Canada when Qyebec wanted to secceed. Never a pro-French State!!!! Never, France is already to much!!!! A NKM forumer once said that US should have bombed France after Afganistan!
Reconquista means mestizos (claiming to be native Americans) overtaking the USA and kicking all whites out.
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He's not a troll, and I agree with him most of the time.
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Raulmarrio is a long time poster on Kahane.org long before there was a JTF forum, and he is a Ben Noach, and by the nature of such beliefs righteous. While Chaim has made a decision to be extrodinarily tolerant towards Christians; Raulmario is a Ben Noach, someone who has accepted the Torah but as a Gentile, he is under no such obligation towards the notzrim.
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Raulmarrio is a long time poster on Kahane.org long before there was a JTF forum, and he is a Ben Noach, and by the nature of such beliefs righteous. While Chaim has made a decision to be extrodinarily tolerant towards Christians; Raulmario is a Ben Noach, someone who has accepted the Torah but as a Gentile, he is under no such obligation towards the notzrim.
It depends which of the meanings for a Noachide you take. Some say anyone who tries to keep the Seven Mizvot is a Noachide in a way. Others say the only pure Noachides are those who believe in all the Ravs interpretations.
Regarding Christians, I am confused. In a way I dislike many of them for saying that the non baptized go to hell. Last April, when I read that Neron had persecuted them in year 64 EC. I concluded that they must have some part in the Divine plan, because they could have not reached Rome so quickly without Hashem's help.
But last week someone showed me that verse from John that implies the Israelites of the desert who ate the Man (Manna) died, and I wondered: If they died physically, then Christians also die!!!! And if it is means spitiritual dearh (hell), then it implies that all israelites are in Hell.
However a Rav told me by chat that a Christian goy can be considered a Noachide, and a Jew who becomes a Christian is an idolator.
I once read a Jew who quoted Rambam saying that Christianity and Islam are part of Hashem's plan to prepare the world for the coming of the Moshiach. But I cannot read Rambam, and a secular Jew may have misunderstood Rambam's words.
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A Noahide believes in the 7 laws of Noah. That's it. As for you, just stick with that and don't get involved with this sammeritan nonsense especially if you can't even read Hebrew.
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A Noahide believes in the 7 laws of Noah. That's it. As for you, just stick with that and don't get involved with this sammeritan nonsense especially if you can't even read Hebrew.
If you just want to give spiritual advise. Thank you for caring. Now, if you are offended by my involving in Samaritanism..... remember that even Hindus are wellcomed here, although their religion has nothing to do with Torah. You may think that Samaritans are wrong for using the Torah which belongs to Israel ( and you consider them Gentiles), but also Christians have a copy of the Torah in their Bible and interpret it in their ways without knowing Hebrew. And surely you would not say it is nonsense!!! At least not in a non religious forum! Why then saying Samaritans are nonsense?
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I have never liked RaulMario
He strays off topic too much just too get people to disagree with his off topic reply
also he anti american
Has no respect for the soldiers that have died for this country
He was the one that said Veterans Day is a disgrace!!!!!!
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A troll is someone who posts stuff purposely to rile up a forum, and doesn't really believe in what they post. They purposely cause division. That's the definition.
That's especially true with the nazi croats bombarding in the serbian section. Croat trolls :::D
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Well, you could have read what I have written in whole, rather than answering to each part separetely.
Regardding Catholics and most other Christians, they claim they are the real New Yisrael, and that's why many of them oppose Zionism. Nearly all religion whuch has some realtion with the Torah will say they are either new real Jews (ay least spiritually), or that they have replaced Jews. It's obvious.
What the special problem with Samaritans, then?
They claim to be the tribes of Efraim, part of Menashe, and part of Levy. Can you really believe that they would have accepted to much suffering and ahihilation to keep Torah, if they are just lying? Even if they were wrong, it's obvious they are sincere!
Regarding Jesus, I don't know what to say. On one side how could Christianity have spread so quickly among Gentiles at that time with no media? On the other side, last week someone pointed several verses of the Gospel which are quite antisemitic!!!!!!!! And it is true!!!!
Regarding Noahides, the US has accepted the Noahide Laws and Bush (father) encouraged the nation to keep them. And nearly all American Gentiles follow other religions!!!
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But Replacement Theology Christians only spiritually claim to be Israel while Samaritans and Black Hebrews physically claim to be.
But do you prefer? A Catholic claiming he is the spiritually new Chosen People, and that Jews must never be in peace neither in Israel nor in the Diaspora. (Orthodox Christians also forbade Zionism because they said Jews have no right to have peace in Israel, and they must suffer un exile, so they forbade Jews to leave their countries towards Israel. The only pro-Israel Christians are some Protestant Churches.)
Or the Samaritans claming to be physically descent from Epraim and living peacefully in Schem, even if you don't believe in them.
BTW, there are many other groups who claim to be Bnei Menashe in Thailand.
And what's your opinion on Falashas? Some Ravs say they are from Dan.
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He's not a troll...
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Falasha who converted to Christianity are called Falasha Mura. Ethiopian Jews are simply called Falasha. I don't know how Christian Falashas could have been brought to Israel, since the Law of Return forbids Hallachically Jews who converted to other religions to make Alyah. Perhaps they were benefitted by that clause which says that someone with kinship to a Jew can also make alyah even if not Jewish himself. That's how many Russians managed to enter Israel.
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Raul and everyone else, anyone besides the Jews who come up with a false claim stating that they are the real Jews, or the New Jews, replaced Jews, etc. is wronge and false, and no one with that non-sense should be defended. G-d made the covenent with the Jews, FOREVER. We wont EVEV be replaced by another nation, these are not my words but G-d's in his Torah.
If you want to be concidered a rightious Noahide, then you cant invlove yourself with a false group that claims itself to be part of Israel where they obviously are not.
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Falashas is a derogatory term for Ethiopian Jews. The Ethiopian goyim called them that. It comes from Falash Mura and I think is equivalent to The Spanish calling "New Christians" Marranos. White Jews get the term confused and call all Ethiopian Jews Falashas which is wrong.
Falasha means "Foreigner/ Exiled" in Amaric. I thought Ethipian Jews used the term with pride, because it remembers their hope to return. But I just don't know.
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From what I have seen he has very weird views, but I am not ready to call him a troll. He is just... weird.
However--as an Argentine, he is severely mixed-up and even self-hating. Argentina is (was, before Peronism) a FIRST WORLD country founded by Europeans just like South Africa used to be. Argentina was the lone bastion of civilization on a Third World continent for many years.
Raul, how can you universally support indigenous peoples (even when they are wrong) and be an Argentine, which by definition means you are a white European?
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A troll is someone who posts stuff purposely to rile up a forum, and doesn't really believe in what they post. They purposely cause division. That's the definition.
by that definition, what about a "devils advocate". I tend to pull this off once in awhile.
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And also--even though I don't agree with a lot of Raul's opinions, I want to know why everyone is up in arms over him but all kissed up to Erica's crack-addicted ass. Myself and DownwithIslam were pretty much the only people here who stood up to that gutterwhore.
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I agree with CF..took the words right out of my mouth.
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Raul, how can you universally support indigenous peoples (even when they are wrong) and be an Argentine, which by definition means you are a white European?
I was born here. I have also Italian cirizenship. And Yes, I am white. But I claim we have no right to the Natives lands. No matter if some natives may be wrong, it's their Land. We must not steal.
However not all the American continent was inhabitted when European came here. The great problem is that conquerors did not want to build new nation on the non-inhabited areas, which would have been correct. They just conquered Indians cities to steal their gold.
Here in Argentina, most native did not even had the concept of State or kingdom. In this province they were mostly nomads. It was not evil that some Europeans built cities, it was no invasion in itself. But they stole from natives, and then entrapped then into States which are not natives'.
Even today they destroy the places the natives live in, they expell them, detroy the forest and use their land for agriculture. That's stealing.
Last Wednesday Greenpeace could persuade the Congress to forbid destroying forest and native areas
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Raul, I agree with some of your POV, and furthermore would like to see the forest protected from development also, but simply being indigenous does not make you right. In the United States, some of the American Indians were friendly, and some were savage. They were not ALL noble. Yes, I do agree that they were mistreated (far more than the blacks ever were for sure) overall, but not all of them were nice people. Surely the same is true in Argentina and Latin America.
Are the blacks in South Africa good and righteous people? Hardly. These are beasts that believe raping a virgin cures AIDS, after all.
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Raul, how can you universally support indigenous peoples (even when they are wrong) and be an Argentine, which by definition means you are a white European?
I was born here. I have also Italian cirizenship. And Yes, I am white. But I claim we have no right to the Natives lands. No matter if some natives may be wrong, it's their Land. We must not steal.
However not all the American continent was inhabitted when European came here. The great problem is that conquerors did not want to build new nation on the non-inhabited areas, which would have been correct. They just conquered Indians cities to steal their gold.
Here in Argentina, most native did not even had the concept of State or kingdom. In this province they were mostly nomads. It was not evil that some Europeans built cities, it was no invasion in itself. But they stole from natives, and then entrapped then into States which are not natives'.
Even today they destroy the places the natives live in, they expell them, detroy the forest and use their land for agriculture. That's stealing.
Last Wednesday Greenpeace could persuade the Congress to forbid destroying forest and native areas
Raul, sei Italiano?
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Yes, mu grandfarher came here in 1907 and refused Argentinian citizenship. So he died here being Italian and foreign resident in Argentina. According to Italian Law, I could get the citizenship. The rest of my mother's family were all Italian also, but they may have resigned citizenship before 1948, and so have no rights. My mother wished to get the citizenship when she was already very ill and died before the documents were ready.
I continued the process and got it, but never cared to learn the language. Anyway my grandfather never spoke Italian, but a dialect from Cerdegne Island which now linguists consider to be not properly Italian but a separate language.
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I was born here. I have also Italian cirizenship. And Yes, I am white. But I claim we have no right to the Natives lands. No matter if some natives may be wrong, it's their Land. We must not steal.
However not all the American continent was inhabitted when European came here. The great problem is that conquerors did not want to build new nation on the non-inhabited areas, which would have been correct. They just conquered Indians cities to steal their gold.
Here in Argentina, most native did not even had the concept of State or kingdom. In this province they were mostly nomads. It was not evil that some Europeans built cities, it was no invasion in itself. But they stole from natives, and then entrapped then into States which are not natives'.
Even today they destroy the places the natives live in, they expell them, detroy the forest and use their land for agriculture. That's stealing.
Last Wednesday Greenpeace could persuade the Congress to forbid destroying forest and native areas
Raul,
would you agree on this:
Let the non-whites/mixed coloured in America/Australia/SAfr., and bring all the whites back to their countries in Europe?
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Raul, I agree with some of your POV, and furthermore would like to see the forest protected from development also, but simply being indigenous does not make you right. In the United States, some of the American Indians were friendly, and some were savage. They were not ALL noble. Yes, I do agree that they were mistreated (far more than the blacks ever were for sure) overall, but not all of them were nice people. Surely the same is true in Argentina and Latin America.
Are the blacks in South Africa good and righteous people? Hardly. These are beasts that believe raping a virgin cures AIDS, after all.
I didn't say that all natives are righteous. I only say that we must not steal from any one whether righteous or wicked. Of course there may be wicked natives, they are humans with free will and they can choose evil.
Europeans are also native in Europe and being natives did not prevnt them from coming here to conquer and even rape Amerindians.
Africa is the land of several black nations (except the north wich belongs to white nations conquered by Arabs invasions). Now if Boers discovered some non inhabited areas in South Africa, as someone has said, then they do well in claiming it. No Nation or ethnic group can claim a whole continent by just inhabitting a part of it. But the areas which were inhabitted by Blacks are theirs, no matter if you consider them righteous or not. If some natives do evil against their own berhren ( like the case you quote about some Blacks raping virgins) you are entitled to invade that land to punish the guilties and save the innocent, not to steal the land for yourself
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Ambiorix
that would be a disaster to europe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
because the white over here arent the same as the whites in europe!!!
the whites in america just arent the same
they will bring immorality to europe
because a big majority of the whites in america have become tainted by the minority bs that is going on
trust me
its like throwing a paralyzed man in a swimming pool and telling him to swim!!!
Or taking a wild dog and commanding him to sit or fetch
he will bite the living s--t out of you
and that would be what would happen to europe
and pluss Europe wouldnt want the whites from here anyway at least most of europe
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I was born here. I have also Italian cirizenship. And Yes, I am white. But I claim we have no right to the Natives lands. No matter if some natives may be wrong, it's their Land. We must not steal.
However not all the American continent was inhabitted when European came here. The great problem is that conquerors did not want to build new nation on the non-inhabited areas, which would have been correct. They just conquered Indians cities to steal their gold.
Here in Argentina, most native did not even had the concept of State or kingdom. In this province they were mostly nomads. It was not evil that some Europeans built cities, it was no invasion in itself. But they stole from natives, and then entrapped then into States which are not natives'.
Even today they destroy the places the natives live in, they expell them, detroy the forest and use their land for agriculture. That's stealing.
Last Wednesday Greenpeace could persuade the Congress to forbid destroying forest and native areas
Raul,
would you agree on this:
Let the non-whites/mixed coloured in America/Australia/SAfr., and bring all the whites back to their countries in Europe?
No, first of all I say the native inhabitted areas in America (when I say america I mean the whole continent, not USA only) belong to Amerindians not to all non-whites. There's no need to expell Europeans who settled in the desert and made a Nation, and even if they left for Europe, most Amerondians are already decimated and it won't help them now. It's too late.
It would be better to offer the remaining Amerindians either soveregnty and a State in their land where they still live, or give them an active paricipation in the Govt. That solution I claim for Argentina. Just call the remaining tribal chiefs and offer them especial representation in the Govt. They cannot hold a State now, they are too few.
Secondly Europeans and any human will be taken back to their real homeland by Hashem in future. I consider myself Italian but Hashem may decide I am who knows what nationality. Gentiles are born gentiles by their mothers, and belong to the Gentile nation of his father following a patrilineal descent. Nobody knows the whole genealogy of each Gentile, except Hashem.
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You came back, what happened to you?
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He's been getting thumbs up.
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Ambiorix
that would be a disaster to europe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
because the white over here arent the same as the whites in europe!!!
the whites in america just arent the same
they will bring immorality to europe
because a big majority of the whites in america have become tainted by the minority bs that is going on
trust me
its like throwing a paralyzed man in a swimming pool and telling him to swim!!!
Or taking a wild dog and commanding him to sit or fetch
he will bite the living s--t out of you
and that would be what would happen to europe
and pluss Europe wouldnt want the whites from here anyway at least most of europe
American whites as a whole are more moral than European whites.
Because they are more religious, then the secular europeans or just because they are better natured by upbringing?
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O0 O0 ;)
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Ambiorix
that would be a disaster to europe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
because the white over here arent the same as the whites in europe!!!
the whites in america just arent the same
they will bring immorality to europe
because a big majority of the whites in america have become tainted by the minority bs that is going on
trust me
its like throwing a paralyzed man in a swimming pool and telling him to swim!!!
Or taking a wild dog and commanding him to sit or fetch
he will bite the living s--t out of you
and that would be what would happen to europe
and pluss Europe wouldnt want the whites from here anyway at least most of europe
American whites as a whole are more moral than European whites.
Because they are more religious, then the secular europeans or just because they are better natured by upbringing?
Sub-culture.
American culture is more religious or 'prudish' than european culture. America is also capitalist and believes is personal responsibility. Whereas Europe is socialist and believes in government being responsible for individuals.