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Save Western Civilization => Save Europe => Topic started by: kellymaureen on November 25, 2007, 09:53:07 PM
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http://sg.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/20071126/twl-uk-france-violence-bd5ae06.html
More "youths" setting Paris ablaze....."youths"....hmmm must be those pesky amish at it again ::)
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Must be Muslims. We have to save Europe
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Here we go again...
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Sarkozy thought he could destroy this problem by appointing the Moroccan/Algerian politician Dati as a government official. Though it isn't working out.
How do you think the problem can be realistically solved?
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Sarkozy thought he could destroy this problem by appointing the Moroccan/Algerian politician Dati as a government official. Though it isn't working out.
How do you think the problem can be realistically solved?
Either, persuade the mulsim to stop being muslim, convince them that the Ahmadis are right, or deport them all.
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Sarkozy thought he could destroy this problem by appointing the Moroccan/Algerian politician Dati as a government official. Though it isn't working out.
How do you think the problem can be realistically solved?
Either, persuade the mulsim to stop being muslim, convince them that the Ahmadis are right, or deport them all.
Number 1 ain't going to happen.
Number 2 isn't even acheivable.
Number 3....sounds the better of the lot but France does not want to loose its connections with North Africa.
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Sarkozy thought he could destroy this problem by appointing the Moroccan/Algerian politician Dati as a government official. Though it isn't working out.
How do you think the problem can be realistically solved?
Either, persuade the mulsim to stop being muslim, convince them that the Ahmadis are right, or deport them all.
BURN, BABY BURN!!!!!!!!!!!! It's about time those French anti-Semite phallic lollipop eaters, got what they deserve! G-d help Israel if they become sympathetic and decide to aid the French! Apparently having Arabs isn't as bad as having those "evil, dirty" Jews around? >:(
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Their Primeminister is a Hungarian Jew....maybe the relations between Israel and France will change.
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only drastic methods will crunch the intifadels .
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Whom Will France Mourn? A Tale of an Accident and a Murder
http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/2696 (http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/2696)
From the desk of Thomas Landen on Mon, 2007-11-26 20:25
Yesterday evening, three young people died in the suburbs to the north of Paris. Moushin (15) and Larami (16), two immigrant youths, were killed in Villiers-le-Bel when their motorcycle, which is said to have been stolen, collided at high speed with a police vehicle. The two youths, who were not wearing compulsory crash helmets, died on the spot. A few hours later, Anne-Lorraine (23), a young journalist, was stabbed to death on a suburban train near Creil, whilst resisting a man who was trying to rape her. The man had already been convicted for violent sexual assault in 1996.
The news of the deaths of Moushin and Larami became world news, dominating today’s media in France and abroad. Anne-Lorraine’s death is a mere footnote, a “faits divers” in France, a non-event abroad.
After Moushin’s and Larami’s deaths their friends and relatives went on a rampage. They destroyed two police stations and a petrol station, torched a few dozen cars, looted stores and injured at least 25 police officers (two of them seriously) and one fireman. A spokesman of the French police union said today that the officers had been shot at by youths with firearms. According to Omar Sehhouli, the brother of one of the two dead youths, the eruption of violence was not what it seemed. “This is not violence,” Omar told the French press agency AFP, “but just anger that needs to be expressed”.
The French authorities fear that the immigrant youths in the Paris suburbs will feel a need to express another round of anger tonight. The French President, Nicolas Sarkozy, is currently in China. His Interior Minister, Michèle Alliot-Marie is in charge. She has “urged all sides to act responsibly” and has promised a full inquiry. The “all sides” refers to the angry youths on the one hand and the police on the other hand. The French judicial authorities are conducting a manslaughter investigation against the officers in the police car. According to the friends and relatives of Moushin and Larami, the officers fled from the scene of the accident, without caring for the two dead boys and without waiting for the friends and relatives to show up.
A police chief who arrived on the scene was, however, beaten up and suffered serious facial trauma. Four police cars that arrived shortly afterwards, also fled when they were attacked, leaving the entire neighbourhood under the control of the youth gangs. A few hours later, when the prefect (governor) of the Val d’Oise province, Paul-Henry Trollé, came to Villiers-le-Bel, a delegation of the youths told him that they want justice to be done and the policemen punished. “Otherwise we will do justice ourselves. We demand the truth or we will screw up everything.”
In November 2005 the accidental death of two immigrant youths in Clichy-sous-Bois, another Paris suburb, led to weeks of violence and unrest in which “angry” friends of the youths set alight over 10,000 cars and arsoned more than 300 buildings, including schools. It took almost a month before Nicolas Sarkozy, the then minister of the Interior, was able to restore law and order. He did this by withdrawing the police and abandoning the immigrant neighbourhoods to the control of the local youths.
A few hours after the death of Moushin and Larami, Marie-Lorraine, a 23-year old journalism student, was attacked in a suburban train. Her body was discovered in an empty carriage when the train entered its terminus at Creil, also in the Val d’Oise province. The girl was covered in blood and had over thirty stab wounds in the chest and face. She was still alive but died shortly afterwards. The police later arrested a 44-year old man with stab wounds on his arms. When questioned he confessed that he had assaulted the young woman. The man had been convicted for sexual assaults in 1996, including a rape under threat of a knife on the same train line, but he had since been released. The man said that he had tried to rape Anne-Lorraine because they were alone in the train carriage. He had stabbed her because she resisted him.
Today, Interior Minister Michèle Alliot-Marie offered her condolences to the young woman’s relatives and friends. The latter have not gone on a rampage. They have not torched train carriages nor have they arsoned train stations. The French authorities do not fear they will turn to violence in the coming nights, either. One wonders why. Is there no “anger that needs to be expressed”?
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Who said that France is a racist country??
It surely is...
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Who said that France is a racist country??
It surely is...
France is anti-semetic, well much of Europe and the Nazi EU is anyway.
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I love how the media talks about these subhumans burning cars like it isn't any big deal. Cars are very expensive, not only to buy. but then you have insurance and maintenance....I wouldn't like to come out and see my car burning, even though the insurance covers it, you still will take a loss. Also amazing is how these riots always turn into looting >:(
This scum is given government housing, money, food, likely free utilities, and THEY complain...start shipping them out, cheaper to deport them than to keep them there and keep running appeasement after appeasement which will never work. When riots get that out of hand, they need to announce a shoot to kill policy for whoever is out rioting, if they remain out after the announcement, then bye bye. To control the riots in south central LA in 1965 a shoot to kill order was given and only 34 people were killed (and not all by the police), I say only because before the order there were thousands and thousands on the streets, most took heed and left.
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When riots get that out of hand, they need to announce a shoot to kill policy for whoever is out rioting, if they remain out after the announcement, then bye bye. To control the riots in south central LA in 1965 a shoot to kill order was given and only 34 people were killed (and not all by the police), I say only because before the order there were thousands and thousands on the streets, most took heed and left.
I heard liberals on the TV news dribbling on about the 'youths' having no jobs or prospects. They might have jobs and a future if they bothered to leave their losers' muSSlim culture behind and integrate.
I advocate a shoot to kill policy on muSSlims 365 days of the year.
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A library , a police office two schools are destroyed
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Sarkozy thought he could destroy this problem by appointing the Moroccan/Algerian politician Dati as a government official. Though it isn't working out.
How do you think the problem can be realistically solved?
Either, persuade the mulsim to stop being muslim, convince them that the Ahmadis are right, or deport them all.
Or just kill them.
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http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/2699
(http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/2699)
Paris’ Third Annual Intifada Festival
From the desk of Thomas Landen on Tue, 2007-11-27 12:18
Villiers-le-Bel, where French immigrant youths have been rioting for two consecutive nights, and Survilliers-Louvres are two suburbs to the north of Paris. They are only 10 kms apart. Last Sunday evening, Anne-Lorraine Schmitt, a 23-year old journalism student, the eldest of five children from a devout Catholic family, was stabbed to death on the RER suburban metro train. The stabbing happened at Survilliers, between the RER stations of Louvres and Fosses. Anne-Lorraine’s body was discovered in the RER terminus at Creil, 25 kms to the north. A few minutes later the French police arrested 43-year old Thierry Dève-Oglou.
According to the French police, Mr. Dève-Oglou “decided to rape the woman when he noticed that the train carriage was empty.” When Anne-Lorraine resisted and tried to escape, he threw himself on her and stabbed her up to 30 times in the chest and face. When the brave young woman fought back, her attacker cut himself in the hand. Mr. Dève-Oglou left the train station at Survilliers-Louvres, but police officers noticed the bleeding man and took him to hospital, where he was arrested. In 1996, Mr. Dève-Oglou had been convicted to five years in jail for a similar sexual assault. That attack happened on the same metro line, but his victim survived.
Today, Le Parisien writes that the suburban metro line (RER) to the north of Paris is generally considered to be dangerous. The French authorities know this, but they fail to protect the citizens. “There are no guards and no surveillance cameras,” a metro employee acknowledges. “After Garges [the train station at Garges-les-Gonesses] there are hardly any passengers left on the train. It is then that the acts of aggression begin,” a regular RER passenger says. This, however, is a fact of life in contemporary France. People accept it. They do not arm themselves with shotguns, but sit on the train, while the state has abandoned them.
Barely three hours before Anne-Lorraine was stabbed, ten kilometres away, in Villiers-le-Bel, two joyriding immigrant youths of 15 and 16 years old, drove their stolen motorcycle at maximum speed into a passing police vehicle. They died on the spot.
According to the police the teenagers ignored traffic rules and crashed into the police vehicle. The motorbike they were riding was unregistered and thus not authorized for use on French roads. Neither of the boys were wearing a helmet as required by law. The relatives and friends of the youths, however, blame the two officers in the vehicle for the death of the boys. They claim the officers had left the scene as fast as they could. The public prosecutor has opened an inquiry to probe whether the officers failed to help the teenagers and whether manslaughter charges should be filed. The officers had called rescue services to the scene, but policemen and medics who arrived at the scene where attacked by youths and fled.
Yesterday night, in a second consecutive night of violence, youths attacked police officers and firemen in Villiers-le-Bel and in nearby Sarcelles and Garges-les-Gonesses. In last night’s riots 77 officers got wounded, five of them seriously, including one officer whose shoulder was pierced by a bullet from a shotgun, and 63 cars, a book shop, two schools, a bank and a supermarket were set alight.
French President Nicolas Sarkozy, on a state visit in China, has called for calm. Mr. Sarkozy had better stayed home, however, because October-November is the season of the Annual Intifada Festival in Paris. This tradition began in November 2005, continued in October 2006, and has become a regular event on the French calendar.
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from http://www.jihadwatch.org/ (http://www.jihadwatch.org/)
77 police officers hurt in Paris riots; "genuine urban guerillas with conventional weapons and hunting weapons" among rioters
Escalation. "Rampaging Youths" Update. "77 police officers hurt in Paris riots," by Angela Charlton for the Associated Press:
VILLIERS-LE-BEL, France - Rampaging youths rioted for a second night in Paris' suburbs, firing at officers and ramming burning cars into buildings. At least 77 officers were injured, a senior police union official said Tuesday.
The overnight violence was more intense than during three weeks of rioting in 2005, said the official, Patrice Ribeiro. He said that "genuine urban guerillas with conventional weapons and hunting weapons" were among the rioters.
The riots were triggered by the deaths of two teens killed in a crash with a police patrol car on Sunday in Villiers-le-Bel, a blue-collar town in Paris' northern suburbs.
Residents claimed that officers left the crash scene without helping the teens, whose motorbike collided with the car. Officials cast doubt on the claim, but the internal police oversight agency was investigating.
Rioting first erupted in Villiers-le-Bel on Sunday night. It grew worse and spread Monday night to other towns north of Paris. Rioters hurled stones and petrol bombs at police, authorities said.
The use of firearms added a dangerous new dimension. Firearms are widespread in France, and police generally carry guns. Guns, though, were rarely used in the 2005 riots that spread to poor housing projects nationwide.
Police are facing "a situation that is far worse than that of 2005," said Ribeiro, national secretary of the Synergie officers union.
"Our colleagues will not allow themselves to be fired upon indefinitely without responding," he warned on RTL radio. "They will be placed in situations which will become untenable."
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We need :
- martial law
- bring in heavy armoured bulldozers and flatten those suburbs.
- put snipers all over the place to take out armed muslims.
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We need :
- martial law
- bring in heavy armoured bulldozers and flatten those suburbs.
- put snipers all over the place to take out armed muslims.
We need to stop being emasculated cowards, afraid of what other people think. I couldn't care less what other people think.
We've become a 'kinder, gentler' (emasculated/feminised) society and as a result, we're finished. Get ready for the slaughter.
The hundreds-of-millions of children aborted over the past forty years will be avenged one-for-one, plus five. The 'Western World' will become but a distant memory.
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Sarah, Sarkozy is PART Jewish... I believe his paternal grandfather was or something. He himself is Gentile.
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Sarah, Sarkozy is PART Jewish... I believe his paternal grandfather was or something. He himself is Gentile.
Oh ok.
He was in favour of banning the Kippa and religious symbols in public buildings.
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Sarah, Sarkozy is PART Jewish... I believe his paternal grandfather was or something. He himself is Gentile.
Oh ok.
He was in favour of banning the Kippa and religious symbols in public buildings.
The separation of Religion and State is taken very seriously in France.
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Sarah, Sarkozy is PART Jewish... I believe his paternal grandfather was or something. He himself is Gentile.
Oh ok.
He was in favour of banning the Kippa and religious symbols in public buildings.
The separation of Religion and State is taken very seriously in France.
The hajab was more an issue than the kippa. With all France's muSSlims it's probably a good idea to ban religious symbols.
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the only solution is to ban religious symbols, exterminate islam, and then reinstall religious freedom. (except for islam)
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Sarkozy issues warning to rioters
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7116758.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7116758.stm)
Mr Sarkozy called shooting at officers "completely unacceptable"
French President Nicolas Sarkozy has vowed to bring to justice rioters who shot at police in Paris in urban unrest that followed the death of two youths.
Mr Sarkozy, visiting policemen injured in the riots, said such shootings could not be tolerated.
He also met families of the teenagers killed in a collision with a police car and pledged to hold a judicial inquiry.
Mr Sarkozy then headed into crisis talks with key ministers to prevent the spread of three nights of rioting.
There was a decrease in violence on Tuesday night, but there were still arson attacks in some parts of Paris and in the southern city of Toulouse.
'Search for truth'
Mr Sarkozy touched down from a state visit to China on Wednesday morning and headed straight to a hospital in Eaubonne, northern Paris, to visit some of the 120 officers injured in the rioting.
Afterwards he said: "Opening fire at officials is completely unacceptable... [this] has a name - attempted murder... Those who take it into their hands to shoot at officials will find themselves in court.
"It is not something that we can tolerate, no matter how dramatic the deaths of these two youngsters on a motorbike may be."
POST-2005 PLEDGES
Introduction of measures for training 50,000 youths in 2007
Vow to crack down on illegal immigration
Funding outlined for community projects in "sensitive areas"
EU offers 50m euros for projects to improve the suburbs
Call for action to help non-whites get fair treatment
Paris riots replayed
Have your say
Mr Sarkozy later met the families of the two teenagers, both of North African descent, and said he was opening a judicial inquiry into the deaths.
A lawyer for the families, Jean-Pierre Mignard, welcomed the move, saying it would allow relatives and their representatives "to participate actively in the search for the truth".
Mr Sarkozy then held emergency talks at the Elysee Palace with Prime Minister Francois Fillon, Interior Minister Michele Alliot-Marie and other senior members of the government.
Extra police were deployed to prevent further violence on Tuesday night.
Violence was down, but dozens of cars and several buildings were still set on fire in the worst-hit suburb, Villiers-le-Bel, in the north of the capital.
Petrol bombs were also thrown in Les Mureaux, north-west of Paris, and a flaming chair was thrown through the window of a school in Vitry-sur-Seine, south of the capital.
In Toulouse, about 20 cars were torched.
However, clashes with police were limited and only a few officers were hurt.
Mr Fillon said: "The situation is much calmer than the two previous nights but we can all feel that it remains fragile.
"The government will do all it can to ensure that order returns as soon as possible."
Initial findings
Relatives of the two teenagers have insisted that police rammed the motorcycle the boys were riding before leaving them to die on Sunday.
Families of the teenagers were told of a judicial inquiry
The initial findings of an internal police probe, which found that police were not to blame, sparked anger in Villiers-le-Bel.
Police say the motorcycle was going at top speed and was not registered for street use, while the two boys - who have been named only as Moushin, 15, and Larami, 16 - were not wearing helmets and had been ignoring traffic rules.
Police unions have said the rioting is more intense than during weeks of clashes in the French suburbs in 2005, because firearms are now more frequently used.
The 2005 unrest, also sparked by the deaths of two youths, spread from a nearby suburb of Paris to other cities and continued for three weeks, during which more than 10,000 cars were set ablaze and 300 buildings firebombed.
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the only solution is to ban religious symbols, exterminate islam, and then reinstall religious freedom. (except for islam)
anybody disagrees about this plan?
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the only solution is to ban religious symbols, exterminate islam, and then reinstall religious freedom. (except for islam)
anybody disagrees about this plan?
I agree iSSlam must be exterminated, and Christianity and Judaism must be reinstalled in Europe. The problem is Europe has never been a judeo-christian nation as far as I'm aware of? ??? The Judeo-Christian nations always do a great job and what is righteous most of the time. O0
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Europe has joined civilisation with the birth of Greece, and later Rome.
The Roman Empire captured today's France, Belgium , England, Spain, Portugal, Morokkko, Algeria, Tunisia, Egypt, Israel, Jordan, Syria, Turkey, Greece, Roumania, Balkans, Swiserland....
The Greeks captured all of Persia once too.
These civilisations were worshipping (Zeus / Jupiter) polytheism.
In north - Europe people worshipped Odin polytheism.
When the Roman empire stop killing Jews and Christians, the official religion became Christianity.
The roman empire was split in two parts, Byzantine becomes the eastern capital.
The northern -German tribes invaded west - Roman empire .
The period between 400 and 800 AD , lots of Europe is christianised.
Northern Africa and the middle east are conquered by Mohammedans.
Jewish history between -3000 and +2007 is something I am almost totally unfamiliar with.
i only know the Romans destroyed the second temple in +70.
The Jews spread around the East and the West.
They came back to Israel in 1900-2000.
So the relation of Jews and Europeans is not the best in history.
The Judeo part of our Western culture is the Thora-1st part of the Bible.
The Christian part is the 2nd part of the Bible.
The Greek / Roman and Gallic German Slavonic part are of equal importance as to Jew/Christian influence in European civilisation.