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The Worldwide Crisis of Islam => The Truth About Islam => Topic started by: judeanoncapta on November 26, 2007, 05:43:14 PM
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I always hear Muslims attaching various untrue adjectives to the Quran to hide it's true nature. ie The Holy Quran, The Noble Quran, The Glorious Quran etc. I'm sick of it and want to see which adjective you guys think truly describes the Quran.
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These are all great. I also call the koran "that extra roll of toilet paper."
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I hope you don't mind, I voted for 8 options.
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The Quran is known by muslims as- Al Quran Al-Kareem. The word Kareem can mean, holy, noble, glorious or gentle....all of those words. They aren't all different adjectives, its one word expressed in different ways.
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I selected all 19, though I had trouble deciding which 19 to choose ;) :::D
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You cannot say it's toilet paper. It's a blasphemy because it names G-d. You may say it just mentiones G-d in vain. But even in this case, you cannot desecrate it.
Some years ago I received an anonymous letter blaspheming G-d. It was a very awfull blapheme. I called a Rav immediately to know what to do with that letter. The Rav ruled I was nor allowed to burn it or throw it away. I had to take it to the Genizah, since the Name was written on it
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I like having 19 options to pick! 1 would just not be enough. :::D
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The Quran is known by muslims as- Al Quran Al-Kareem. The word Kareem can mean, holy, noble, glorious or gentle....all of those words. They aren't all different adjectives, its one word expressed in different ways.
But, in any case, it's not true.
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I disagree Raul, because the muslim god is Allah, which is the idolatrous moon god.
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I hope you don't mind, I voted for 8 options.
I voted for all of them.
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I disagree Raul, because the muslim G-d is Allah, which is the idolatrous moon G-d.
Al-lah means G-d in Arabic. Perhaps the origin of the world is pagan, but the Koran claims to refer to Hashem. G-d in English is probably of Pagan origin, but now we reffer to Hashem.
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You cannot say it's toilet paper. It's a blasphemy because it names G-d. You may say it just mentiones G-d in vain. But even in this case, you cannot desecrate it.
Some years ago I received an anonymous letter blaspheming G-d. It was a very awfull blapheme. I called a Rav immediately to know what to do with that letter. The Rav ruled I was nor allowed to burn it or throw it away. I had to take it to the Genizah, since the Name was written on it
Your Rav happen to be following the most stringent of all the opinions. Many authorities like Maimonides do not agree and say that the only names of G-d that can't erased or thrown out are hebrew ones.
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These are all great. I also call the koran "that extra roll of toilet paper."
I like the The Charmin Two-ply extra Absorbent Quran.
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haha yes indeed!
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You cannot say it's toilet paper. It's a blasphemy because it names G-d. You may say it just mentiones G-d in vain. But even in this case, you cannot desecrate it.
Some years ago I received an anonymous letter blaspheming G-d. It was a very awfull blapheme. I called a Rav immediately to know what to do with that letter. The Rav ruled I was nor allowed to burn it or throw it away. I had to take it to the Genizah, since the Name was written on it
Your Rav happen to be following the most stringent of all the opinions. Many authorities like Maimonides do not agree and say that the only names of G-d that can't erased or thrown out are hebrew ones.
Yes, the Rav I consulted follows the most stringent opinion, and some of the people in that sinagogue are even more stringent. They only write BS"D with latin character and never B"H, while the Rav allows it.
Anyway the blaspehme I received was digracefully written in Hebrew transliterated to Spanish
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You cannot say it's toilet paper. It's a blasphemy because it names G-d. You may say it just mentiones G-d in vain. But even in this case, you cannot desecrate it.
Some years ago I received an anonymous letter blaspheming G-d. It was a very awfull blapheme. I called a Rav immediately to know what to do with that letter. The Rav ruled I was nor allowed to burn it or throw it away. I had to take it to the Genizah, since the Name was written on it
Your Rav happen to be following the most stringent of all the opinions. Many authorities like Maimonides do not agree and say that the only names of G-d that can't erased or thrown out are hebrew ones.
Yes, the Rav I consulted follows the most stringent opinion, and some of the people in that sinagogue are even more stringent. They only write BS"D with latin character and never B"H, while the Rav allows it.
Anyway the blaspehme I received was digracefully written in Hebrew transliterated to Spanish
Well, i choose to follow Maimonides on this one, thank you.
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I selected all 19, though I had trouble deciding which 19 to choose ;) :::D
I know. It's hard. they all describe the Quran so well.
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Ok, you now have two more adjectives to choose from.
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I vote all 19 but not the toilet paper one, I like the nice soft, lightly scented, quilted, 3 ply paper for that :::D
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I vote all 19 but not the toilet paper one, I like the nice soft, lightly scented, quilted, 3 ply paper for that :::D
I wouldn't discrace my smelly poopy a*s with the pages of that vile book. And no, there's no blaspheming, Allah is NOT G-d! Allah is the pagan moon G-d.
Did you know that when the US landed Neil Armstrong on the moon the muslims were pissed off? Not that anybody paid any attention to those primitives back then when America was still America. Why were the muslims pissed off? Because we landed a space module on their f***ing idol! :::D
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I don't think Muslims worshipp the Moon. I only have learnt that the Koran has a lot of historical and chronological mistakes. For example it says that Miriam, Moses' sister, was Jesus mother. Mistaken by 1300 years!!!
That Samaritans lead Jews astray while Moses was at Sinai and that they were punished with the fear of being touched by a non-Samaritan. Wrong!!!
Samaritans didn't exist as a different group at Moses' time, and they just avoid non-Samaritan contact due to the purity Laws of Leviticus!!!!!!
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I only have learnt that the Koran has a lot of historical and chronological mistakes
It's no mistake that the biggest sin in islam is to question the koran or mo-ham-head ;)
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Ok, The Nazi, Satanic and Hilariously False Qurans are all tied for first place. Some one please break the tie so I can declare a winner here.
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I only have learnt that the Koran has a lot of historical and chronological mistakes
It's no mistake that the biggest sin in islam is to question the koran or mo-ham-head ;)
Muslims don't say it's a sin ro question the Koran if you have not converted to Islam. But they can convert you, or you can just self convert by saying a few words, even if you are are an iliterate!!!! And after you have converted, you are killed if you leave!!!!
Just like Catholics who say that nobody can be forced to believe ( except for the fact that Catholics DO claim if you don't believe, you go ro Hell), but once you are baptized you can't leave. So if your parents are Catholic, they are bound to baptize you when you are a baby, and then you cannot leave. Just that now you are not burnt for leaving as it was in the past.
The reason for these claims are obvious. Both Muslims and Catholic knew very well that they coudn't force the world to convert. If they condemn someone for not believing then there is the question. What about other religions in the world? Why don't you go and convert them by force? Why do you condemn a non-believer in your country and let off foreigners? Why killing a non-beliver in Christianity in Europe, or a non believer in Mohammed in Arabia, and letting off peoples in other far away lands?
To avoid that question they stated that they have no right to convert by force, but once a person converts he can't leave. Then it was very easy to "convert" the Ileterate and even the babies and accusse then of treason if they leave. ha ha
Just look at the different with Jews! You are not converted to Judaism by mistake, by a magic words, or pouring some water on your head. You only convert if you really understand Torah and want it!!!! And also in ancient times when Guerim Toshavim converted to Noachidism formally, they had to understand it. No Beis Din would make you a Guer Toashav (Noachide) by a magic word. If you just din't accept Noachidism you could freely leave Israel in peace!
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Muslims are NOT to question the koran or moe
its stated in the koran, haidth and sura
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Muslims are NOT to question the koran or moe
its stated in the koran, haidth and sura
Exactly. But you didn't understand what I wrote. Once you become a Muslim you are forbidden to question the Koran. If you don't convert, yor are free to nor believe in it. But Muslims would make you miserable by dimninitude, or they just make you convert by mistake, and then , if you leave, they kill you. At least in those countries which follow that strict Sharia!
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Non muslims are not supposed to question the koran either, we arent even allowed to handle it...my brother was made to wear white gloves when he handled that satanic book in gitmo >:(
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Non muslims are not supposed to question the koran either, we arent even allowed to handle it...my brother was made to wear white gloves when he handled that satanic book in gitmo >:(
If he had worn black gloves, would that have been insulting the holy Prophet MuCHAMmed, PBUH? ;D
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Non muslims are not supposed to question the koran either, we arent even allowed to handle it...my brother was made to wear white gloves when he handled that satanic book in gitmo >:(
If he had worn black gloves, would that have been insulting the holy Prophet MuCHAMmed, PBUH? ;D
Well they all have to wear gloves...not sure why they have to be white but they do...and i didnt tell you were those gloves had been before handing satans diary ^-^ and it wasnt a washing machine lol
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Non muslims are not supposed to question the koran either, we arent even allowed to handle it...my brother was made to wear white gloves when he handled that satanic book in gitmo >:(
Not being allowed to touch the book doesn't necessarily mean you are bound to believe in it. You cannot touch the Holy Wafer in a Catholic Church, but you can enter a Cathedral as a tourist and you are not forced to believe in the Waffer.
The probelm is that Muslims would make you convert by pressure and then acusse you of treason if you want to leave. And if you are a pagan they'd literrally force you to convert. Then if you study more, and decide you prefer another non pagan religion, they would not let you leave. That's is the big problem!!!!!!
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How about "All of the above" ;)
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Ooooh, evil and Satanic are winning at the moment!
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I call it the biggest story book
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I think it's Evil.
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I wouldn't call the Quran toilet paper. I want something with more quality cleaning that area.
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Interesting how most of those in US that join Islam are people in jail, what a coincidence! That is why evil aka islam aka satan deserves a name like Satanic Quran. One of the JTF-ers earlier mentioned that we shouldn't say such things about Allah aka G-d, but I disagree with him because that whole satanic book teaches that forcing others to convert to Islam is ok, that women have no rights, that anyone disagreeing with Islam should die......maybe it is just me, but those words don't seem to sound like word of G-d, but rather words of Satan.....
ps. Imagine just how many world conflicts would disappear if Islam disappeared? probably about 95%......sounds like a peaceful and happy place to live.
I personally respect every major/minor religious movement in the world except for Islam. Why? Because they show no respect towards others.
Long live anyone who opposes Muslim tyranny!
CCCC
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So Moloch, Baal and Ashura are names of G-d too? they're called the gods of Kananites in OT. Allah cannot be the G-d becous in bible he's called the "the G-d of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (Israel) while in Koran it's g-d of Abraham and Yshmael. Muslims are allowing the infidels to criticise Koran? So why they threat Wilders now?
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Hi guys,
I'm new here and hope you don't mind me butting in. It is an interesting irony to think of using the Quran as toilet paper. Since it the supposed book of the Arab's moon god, I think it would be appropriate to use it's pages for cleaning your own moon. That being said, I would never use it that way. It would clog the toilet. >:(