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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: CroJew on November 29, 2007, 07:30:59 AM
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Shalom!
I'm from Croatia and interested in JTF's work. I must protest the ban on Croatian IP addresses.
There are Jews in Croatia and while a lot are left-wing, some are not and could be supportive of your work on Israeli policy.
As your administrators will undoubtedly notice I'm posting via a proxy server.
I'm not a troll, nor a spammer. If you don't want me here solely because I live in Croatia, then I'll leave and seek support from other Kahanist organizations, maybe those less interested in questions not relating to Israel and its people.
Toda!
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IF you are REALLY a Jew,
then , WELCOME.
O0 O0 O0
BUT...
IF you're a takkiya NAZICROAT....
.....you just have to know that you're NOT
the first one (beast) we had in this wonderful forum....
8;)
Having put "cro" in your nickname is not very wise,
knowing what CROwS did to our kinds....
8;)
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By the way,
you succeeded in registering....
8;)
Why bothering SO MUCH
about NAZICROATIA's IP adresses ?
??? ??? ???
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For some reason I find this EXTREMELY hard to believe.
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For some reason I find this EXTREMELY hard to believe.
Same here, but he could really be a jew, he'll just have to prove it with some more posts. O0
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For some reason I find this EXTREMELY hard to believe.
So do I.
8;)
If he's a Jew,
why then INSISTING
on "CRO" bloody things ?!...
???
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IF EVERYTHING "CROAT" WAS BLOCKED IN TIME,
THERE WOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN ANY
JASENOVAC SLAUGHTERHOUSE EVER.
>:( >:( >:(
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2000 Jews live in Croatia. If there are 5 Kahanists out of the bunch, that would be a lot.
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For some reason I find this EXTREMELY hard to believe.
So do I.
8;)
If he's a Jew,
why then INSISTING
on "CRO" bloody things ?!...
???
Why? Because I'm proud of it. Because Croatian Jews survived the Holocaust, fought with the partisans against the Nazis, and survived the Serbian aggression on Croatia. I'm proud of being a Jew, and especially proud of being a Jew from Croatia, thank you very much!
Why are so surprised? There are thousands of Jews in Zagreb alone. Here's a link to their community website:
http://www.zoz.hr/home.php?content=naslovna&setlang=en
I'm not from Zagreb, however, I'm from Split.
Sadly, there are very little Jews in Split and most are secular. Usually there's not even enough interest for a minyan in synagogue! :( And we don't have a Rabbi, but sometimes one of the Rabbis from Zagreb comes here.
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SERBIAN aggresion o croatia,are you kiding me!you are not a jew,you are a lier who chray to spreds a lies and you are 5th colone over here who post as a jew.you are reported to moderator
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Why is'nt ustahsi mentioned ,i know if you say that on your site croatnazis will kill you,What's your opinion of ustashi singer thompson
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ALL Croats aren't bad. That is as ridiculous as Hitler thinking ALL Jews were bad.
Obviously some Croats are bad, others are not.
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CroJew,
your story seems interesting enough, I think we can give you the benefit of the doubt and let you make you point.
However the recent history with Croatians disrupting the forum resulted in the ban. This will NOT change despite your arguments.
Welcome, anyway!
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Why is'nt ustahsi mentioned ,i know if you say that on your site croatnazis will kill you,What's your opinion of ustashi singer thompson
You mean the website of the Zagreb Jewish community? Explore the site better, you'll see that the Holocaust and the Ustashe are discussed and the ZJC together with the Croatian government organizes commemorations for the victims of the Ustaše in Jasenovac every year.
I hate Thompson. He's an ustaša slime ball who's cashing in on the whole "ustaše-fad" among rural teens in Croatia and the Ustaše diaspora. That's my opinion of Thompson.
SERBIAN aggresion o croatia,are you kiding me!you are not a jew,you are a lier who chray to spreds a lies and you are 5th colone over here who post as a jew.you are reported to moderator
I assume you mean a 5th "column" traitor. I'm not, I already said I support JTF's position on Israel and the Muslims. I also happen to think that Mr. Chaim Ben Pesach is needlessly loosing potential support from the Croatian right-wing, which in the last few years showed a lot of sympathy for Israel against the Palestinians, by denouncing the majority of the Croats as nazis, which is simply not true.
My advice to you Serbs is to lay of the Croats, the war's over and won't be repeated any time soon. You should be more worried about the Albanians.
CroJew,
your story seems interesting enough, I think we can give you the benefit of the doubt and let you make you point.
However the recent history with Croatians disrupting the forum resulted in the ban. This will NOT change despite your arguments.
Welcome, anyway!
What did they do to disrupt the forum? I'm guessing they disrupted the "Save Serbia" part of the forum. Some of what JTF claims is radical Serbian propaganda, namely the part about Croatia still being a nazi country. That is insulting to Croats. It's insulting to Croatian Jews, as well. Trust me, we can tell the difference between a normal Croat and a Croatian nazi.
My point is that by blocking all IPs from Croatia, you're alienating Croatian Jews, who have suffered a lot!
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I don't believe that this is a Jew. This is a Croat Nazi giving us Croat propaganda.
But if it is a Jew, then he is a traitor to the Jewish people for defending the Croatian mass murderers and attacking the heroic Serbs who fought valiantly against the Nazis in World War II.
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He writes about the Jews surviving the "Serbian aggression on Croatia"?! This is Holocaust revisionism. The Jews had nothing to fear from the Serbs. It was the evil Croat Nazis who murdered 65,000 innocent Jewish men, women and children.
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I don't believe that this is a Jew. This is a Croat Nazi giving us Croat propaganda.
But if it is a Jew, then he is a traitor to the Jewish people for defending the Croatian mass murderers and attacking the heroic Serbs who fought valiantly against the Nazis in World War II.
I'm not defending Croat mass-murders! A lot of my family was killed by the Ustaše during WW2. I'm defending Croatian Jews and indirectly normal Croats who aren't nazis.
Like I said before if I'm not welcome here I'll leave. But before I do, I would just like to urge you to consider why you are rather supporting Serbian radicals than your own Jewish brothers who happen to incidentally be living in Croatia and have already payed a terrible price for being born there and not, for instance, in the US.
Shalom!
He writes about the Jews surviving the "Serbian aggression on Croatia"?! This is Holocaust revisionism. The Jews had nothing to fear from the Serbs. It was the evil Croat Nazis who murdered 65,000 innocent Jewish men, women and children.
I wasn't talking about WW2, I was talking about this latest war. But Ljotić and Nedić, who were Serbian nazi collaborators, killed Jews during WW2 and saying otherwise is Holocaust revisionism.
The Serb forces bombed Zagreb in 90's and bombed the Dubrovnik Synagogue.
EDIT: Sorry, wrong user name.
EDIT #2: If you don't believe that I'm a Jew then please write an e-mail to the Zagreb Jewish community and ask them what they think about the "heroic Serbs" that bombed Zagreb in the 1990's.
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ALL Croats aren't bad. That is as ridiculous as Hitler thinking ALL Jews were bad.
Obviously some Croats are bad, others are not.
Come on now, this is silly. Most Jews are good or at least neutral people, whereas the vast majority of Croats are clearly not. This is some really stretched and strained reasoning.
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The few Jews who live in Croatia are insane for living among Croat Nazi mass murderers. Why any Jew would live in such an evil country is beyond my understanding.
We will never forget and never forgive what the Croat Nazis did to 65,000 innocent Jews during the holocaust. And the Croats have NOT changed in the least. Every single Croat who commented on our videos - and there were many hundreds of comments - either defended the Ustasha or denied the holocaust and cursed the Jews. To this day, the Croats regard the Ustasha as national heroes and if you deny that, then you are lying. We saw with our own eyes how hundreds of Croats either defended or lied about Nazi Croatia's actions. Not one Croat, not even one, acknowledged Croatia's evil Nazi crimes and expressed shame over their country's monstrous history.
As long as I am involved with JTF, we will defend the heroic Serbs. So get used to it.
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I do not have a lot of respect for a country in which streets are named after war criminals, their first president of the modern state supports Holocaust denial, and when he allows war criminals from that era to be a part of his government. Did you know that Franjo Tudjman tried to make a former Ustaša the Croatian ambassador to Argentina?
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Chaim is right. It's time to ban CroFag--he is clearly a Thompson-loving troll.
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I do not have a lot of respect for a country in which streets are named after war criminals, their first president of the modern state supports Holocaust denial, and when he allows war criminals from that era to be a part of his government. Did you know that Franjo Tudjman tried to make a former Ustaša the Croatian ambassador to Argentina?
That was during Tuđman. That's not the case anymore.
The few Jews who live in Croatia are insane for living among Croat Nazi mass murderers. Why any Jew would live in such an evil country is beyond my understanding.
Maybe because Croatia isn't a Nazi country anymore.
To this day, the Croats regard the Ustasha as national heroes and if you deny that, then you are lying.
Some do, but most don't. I don't know with what kind of Croats you had dealings with, but certainly not the kind I have.
Chaim is right. It's time to ban CroFag--he is clearly a Thompson-loving troll.
I'm not troll and I hate Thompson. There's no need to ban me, I'll leave voluntarily . I won't bother you anymore. I understand how a Jewish organization wouldn't want any "insane" Croatian Jews upsetting sane, normal Serbs like Husar.
Shalom!
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Being a Jew doesn't protect you
from being wrong either:
SEE MLADEN SCHWARTZ,
who is openly USTASHA,
and a "Jew", a self-cursed one,
but still, a Jew...
This creature also HATES Serbs and Serbia,
this creature also gets USTASHA/NAZICROAT
hugs and kiSSes...
:o
karlmarx was also a Jew,
but I always read he
was anti-semitic...
:o
The GREATEST JEWS on earth, today,
are those who fight for their Lives in Israel,
and the Ones, in the Jewish Diaspora,
that are involved in JTF.
Noone of them would waste his precious time
DEFENDING A NAZICROAT POINT OF VIEW.
8;)
For Hail Columbia,
get some information,
you're smarter than that...
8;)
See today's NAZICROATIA's "presifuehrer"
stipe mesic bragging about USTASHA WINNINGS in WWII.....
:o :o :o
NOT RECOGNIZING THAT JASENOVAC
WAS A MASS-MURDERING SLAUGHTERHOUSE....
:o :o :o
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CF, You'd be surprised, many Jewish people are self-hating and would be quite opposed to what JTF stands for...
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For HAIL COLUMBIA,
so that he can see with his own eyes
and hear with his own ears
today's NAZICROATIA's fuehresident:
http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php?topic=11957.0
NAZICROATIA once,
NAZICROATIA forever.
NOT ONLY TUDJMAN
WAS A REVISONNIST/NEGATIONNIST
IN NAZICROATIA...
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fascinating! and i Like Chaim's style of response!
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He writes about the Jews surviving the "Serbian aggression on Croatia"?! This is Holocaust revisionism. The Jews had nothing to fear from the Serbs. It was the evil Croat Nazis who murdered 65,000 innocent Jewish men, women and children.
I agree with Chaim on this, It is a bit like how all the thousands of jews who are living in present day Germany live their like they think the holocaust never occurred... how could a jew ever be proud to be a Croat who murdered the jewish population on masse solely for being part of a separate group of people... if i were a jew i would be outraged with living in a nazi country like Croatia
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I also happen to think that Mr. Chaim Ben Pesach is needlessly loosing potential support from the Croatian right-wing,
This is funny!
Croatian right wing which openly deny Jasenovac and the committed genocide in Croatia. How can even say that? Do you really thing that the Jews want support from that kind of people.
You Croatian must be really desperate.
CroJew?
Cro and Jew? Those two words don't fit together.
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For some reason I find this EXTREMELY hard to believe.
Same here, but he could really be a Jew, he'll just have to prove it with some more posts. O0
I don't doubt it. Not all Croats are Nazis my mother has been friends of a Croat and her husband for over 30 years. It's not that far fetched of an idea
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I don't doubt it. Not all Croats are Nazis my mother has been friends of a Croat and her husband for over 30 years. It's not that far fetched of an idea
Believe me my friend.
We Serbs do not hate all the Croats. There were also some Croats who were against the Nazi policy of Croatia. Those Croats were victimized. Unfortunately the majority of today's Croatia is still allied with Nazism.
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Thats very true there are many Croats in Australia that support Serbs, and supported the Jews.
Many here work along side each other without any form of hate between them.
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Hey, hey, hey. If you want the truth about croatia, some hundreds of thousands support the ustase. Many of croat people don't support anything. They just live their. A majority is brainwashed, and a small majority supports us.
But if you talk about those who care about politics... most of them don't like serbs and are pro-nazis/ustase. In overall nazism is a big minority in croatia. It's atleast what I know of my experience.
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Thats very true there are many Croats in Australia that support Serbs, and supported the Jews.
Many here work along side each other without any form of hate between them.
Well, if that is true then G-d bless them.
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Hey, hey, hey. If you want the truth about croatia, some hundreds of thousands support the ustase. Many of croat people don't support anything. They just live their. A majority is brainwashed, and a small majority supports us.
But if you talk about those who care about politics... most of them don't like serbs and are pro-nazis/ustase. In overall nazism is a big minority in croatia. It's atleast what I know of my experience.
Australia is a long way from Europe and I only speak of what I find here. We are far removed from alot of problems. Not to say all are like that, but the communties in my city are peaceful with each other.
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Thats very true there are many Croats in Australia that support Serbs, and supported the Jews.
Many here work along side each other without any form of hate between them.
BEWARE of NAZICROAT TAKKYIA.
8;)
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I am always aware of Nazi's, thank you Husar.
The great thing is I get to speak both Serb and Croat, but I am sure some are naughty things because they find me funny. ???
And they are never short on a joke. ;)
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I am always aware of Nazi's, thank you Husar.
The great thing is I get to speak both Serb and Croat, but I am sure some are naughty things because they find me funny. ???
And they are never short on a joke. ;)
Good to hear, we may disagree on some issues but you're a righteous member with good input. O0
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I am always aware of Nazi's, thank you Husar.
The great thing is I get to speak both Serb and Croat, but I am sure some are naughty things because they find me funny. ???
And they are never short on a joke. ;)
Good to hear, we may disagree on some issues but you're a righteous member with good input. O0
Disagreeing is apart of many things in life, you have my respect O0