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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Raulmarrio2000 on December 06, 2007, 06:50:11 PM
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To all members of this forum, I will leave if I get a majority of affimative votes.
For those who may not remember my views, I am pro-Israelite Goy, but I oopose the Western culture. I defend all natives' right to their land. I am pro-polygamy, defend Nature and Ecology. Religiously I belive in Mt Gerizim as the Chosen Place and the Shomroni Torah, however I claim Israelites' rights on ALL Eretz Yisrael, especially on Jerualem.
You choose if you want me here or not.
As an interested party I hit on ABSTAIN.
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We need to stop having these types of threads. I'm getting sick and tired of this. Plenty of people on this forum have stood up for you and you reward them by playing this game.
You want to go, go. You want to stay, stay.
This applies to everyone here. I really don't care anymore.
[for the record, I didn't vote]
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We need to stop having these types of threads. I'm getting sick and tired of this. Plenty of people on this forum have stood up for you and you reward them by playing this game.
You want to go, go. You want to stay, stay.
This applies to everyone here. I really don't care anymore.
Bedyuk!
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You are right Trumpedor, many people stay by me, but just wanted to see what the majority think. Another member did a poll like this about her. So, lets see what they want about me also.
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You are right Trumpedor, many people stay by me, but just wanted to see what the majority think. Another member did a poll like this about her. So, lets see what they want about me also.
So two wrongs make a right!
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We need to stop having these types of threads. I'm getting sick and tired of this. Plenty of people on this forum have stood up for you and you reward them by playing this game.
You want to go, go. You want to stay, stay.
This applies to everyone here. I really don't care anymore.
Bedyuk!
Hey, kol hakavod.
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We need to stop having these types of threads. I'm getting sick and tired of this. Plenty of people on this forum have stood up for you and you reward them by playing this game.
You want to go, go. You want to stay, stay.
This applies to everyone here. I really don't care anymore.
Bedyuk!
Hey, kol hakavod.
Now you're being a wiseas* ;D
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Raul, do whatever you want. I'm burnt from seeing these threads - "Do you want me to stay? :'( "
You're not banned, so obviously you're welcome to stay.
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I don't get involved in such politics, but I do find some of your views to be quite opposed to my own. I abstained.
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I voted for you to stay.
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You are right Trumpedor, many people stay by me, but just wanted to see what the majority think. Another member did a poll like this about her. So, lets see what they want about me also.
These threads are pointless.
Why do you care if someone wants you to leave? Unless you're being banned (a sign that you're breaking the rules), you have as much right to be here as anyone else.
I didn't vote and am not going to participate. THINK BIGGER..."gosh, should I stay in the forum? what do people think about me?" blah blah - we're trying to save Israel and America and people are creating popularity polls about themselves.
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No, I don't want you to leave at all.
We need to stop having these types of threads. I'm getting sick and tired of this. Plenty of people on this forum have stood up for you and you reward them by playing this game.
You want to go, go. You want to stay, stay.
This applies to everyone here. I really don't care anymore.
Bedyuk!
;D (pronounced: Be-di-yuk)
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Why not stay?
Although I find some of your views repulsive, I voted for you to stay.
You contribute to the forum and have made some good posts.
There is no reason for you to go, unless of course you want to. If you do leave you will be missed.
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No, I don't want you to live at all.
leave* Dexter, if you don't want him to LIVE, you want him to DIE :::D
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Stay but knock off your stupid bashing of the west and your "America belongs to the indians" Atzlan crap.
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No, I don't want you to live at all.
Now that's extreme...lol ;)
I'm guessing that Vito is right and its just a spelling error.
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Sorry Raul, I have clicked the wrong button. I want you to stay.
You have to deduct one point from leave and add one point to stay.
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These threads are pointless.
Why do you care if someone wants you to leave? Unless you're being banned (a sign that you're breaking the rules), you have as much right to be here as anyone else.
I didn't vote and am not going to participate. THINK BIGGER..."gosh, should I stay in the forum? what do people think about me?" blah blah - we're trying to save Israel and America and people are creating popularity polls about themselves.
AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Seriously people, some of these threads are so immature and are so unprofessional it is embarrassing. It is embarrassing that the Sarah thread is a sticky. We are trying to be a serious movement that wants to solve a very serious problem. 80% of the time it seems like this forum is used for pointless name calling and odd polls amongst 14 year olds.
There are outsiders reading this forum all of the time. We have to consider every one a potential financial contributor. Would you want to contribute time and money to JTF if you read half the threads that are posted in this main forum today?
There is a time and a place for everything. Some people here need to stop being so desperate for attention and affection and figure out the proper time and place for posts.
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Stay but knock off your stupid bashing of the west and your "America belongs to the indians" Atzlan crap.
When I say America I mean the continet, especially Argentina where I live, not exactly USA. I just claim Amerindians rights here. Either a State for those who survive or a special representation in our Parliament. Regarding the West, I also refer especially to Argentina, I live here and wish it to become non West, to allow poligamy for those who choose it, including some Sephardim who live here, and have it allowed by Hallacha. Also Noahides are allowed to be polygamists, but Western culture in Argentina forbids it. I just claim for real freedom for everybody.
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:::D Live and leave sounds the same. Sometimes english does not make sense!
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To all members of this forum, I will leave if I get a majority of affimative votes.
For those who may not remember my views, I am pro-Israelite Goy, but I oopose the Western culture. I defend all natives' right to their land. I am pro-polygamy, defend Nature and Ecology. Religiously I belive in Mt Gerizim as the Chosen Place and the Shomroni Torah, however I claim Israelites' rights on ALL Eretz Yisrael, especially on Jerualem.
You choose if you want me here or not.
As an interested party I hit on ABSTAIN.
Raul I want you to stay, you are a good member doing good work for the Jewish people.
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I think you should stay. But the most important thing is getting our movement bigger. We need some serious ideas.
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Do members here want me to leave the forum?
This is a self-hating question. To make a poll of it is not necessary.
Since i endorse JTF and proud, self-loving Righteous Jews or Gentiles,
I suggest we close this tread.
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Do members here want me to leave the forum?
This is a self-hating question. To make a poll of it is not necessary.
Since i endorse JTF and proud, self-loving Righteous Jews or Gentiles,
I suggest we close this tread.
Its not a self hating question, when people attack members all the time, you wonder if it is really worth it, to be here and apart of a forum that doesn't really want you.
You need to make sure at times if your choice to stay is the right one.
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Stay but knock off your stupid bashing of the west and your "America belongs to the indians" Atzlan crap.
Excellent suggestion newman!
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Stay but knock off your stupid bashing of the west and your "America belongs to the indians" Atzlan crap.
Excellent suggestion newman!
Well, why it doesn't belong to the Indians ?
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Stay but knock off your stupid bashing of the west and your "America belongs to the indians" Atzlan crap.
Excellent suggestion newman!
Well, why it doesn't belong to the Indians ?
Same reason the Earth no longer belongs to neanderthals....................
Evolution.
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:::D Live and leave sounds the same. Sometimes english does not make sense!
No they don't and don't diss English... :::D
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Stay but knock off your stupid bashing of the west and your "America belongs to the indians" Atzlan crap.
Excellent suggestion newman!
Well, why it doesn't belong to the Indians ?
Same reason the Earth no longer belongs to neanderthals....................
Evolution.
So. because statistically Indians have lower IQ give you the justification to take their land ?
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Stay but knock off your stupid bashing of the west and your "America belongs to the indians" Atzlan crap.
Excellent suggestion newman!
Well, why it doesn't belong to the Indians ?
Same reason the Earth no longer belongs to neanderthals....................
Evolution.
So. because statistically Indians have lower IQ give you the justification to take their land ?
No, they just had a PC-scum ruling them, so they were an easy civilisation to wipe out.
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I think you should stay, but ultimately YOU Decide!
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Stay but knock off your stupid bashing of the west and your "America belongs to the indians" Atzlan crap.
Excellent suggestion newman!
Well, why it doesn't belong to the Indians ?
Same reason the Earth no longer belongs to neanderthals....................
Evolution.
So. because statistically Indians have lower IQ give you the justification to take their land ?
Dexter, this is ridiculous. Get this mental picture out of your mind that Indians live in tee-pees and sit around all day painting their faces. Let's face it. They were just as brutal, if not more so than the colonists were to them. The Indians belonged to hundreds of different tribes and were constantly warring amongst themselves (sound like someone else?).
At times, Indians were allowed to live peacefully and productively on their land. However, when push came to shove, most (except the Iroquois) sided on the wrong side during war such as during the French-Indian War and the American Revolution. Please study American history before pushing this left-wing, anti-American garbage.
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Stay but knock off your stupid bashing of the west and your "America belongs to the indians" Atzlan crap.
Excellent suggestion newman!
Well, why it doesn't belong to the Indians ?
Same reason the Earth no longer belongs to neanderthals....................
Evolution.
So. because statistically Indians have lower IQ give you the justification to take their land ?
No. Not because of IQ alone.
The fact of life is that nations who do not advance get swallowed up by those that do. This is why the homo-sapien took the land from the neanderthal, why the Brits took Australia from the boongs and why the europeans took America from the indians. They lost the evolutionary race.
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Stay but knock off your stupid bashing of the west and your "America belongs to the indians" Atzlan crap.
Excellent suggestion newman!
Well, why it doesn't belong to the Indians ?
Same reason the Earth no longer belongs to neanderthals....................
Evolution.
So. because statistically Indians have lower IQ give you the justification to take their land ?
No. Not because of IQ alone.
The fact of life is that nations who do not advance get swallowed up by those that do. This is why the homo-sapien took the land from the neanderthal, why the Brits took Australia from the boongs and why the europeans took America from the indians. They lost the evolutionary race.
Disagree in part with you Newman.
When the colonists arrived in North America, they couldn't survive without the natives. They literally died out.
The Natives taught them how to fish, hunt, battle, build shelter etc...
Where evolution factored in is that they couldn't culturally adapt to technology and biologically adapt to disease.
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Stay but knock off your stupid bashing of the west and your "America belongs to the indians" Atzlan crap.
Excellent suggestion newman!
Well, why it doesn't belong to the Indians ?
Same reason the Earth no longer belongs to neanderthals....................
Evolution.
So. because statistically Indians have lower IQ give you the justification to take their land ?
No. Not because of IQ alone.
The fact of life is that nations who do not advance get swallowed up by those that do. This is why the homo-sapien took the land from the neanderthal, why the Brits took Australia from the boongs and why the europeans took America from the indians. They lost the evolutionary race.
Disagree in part with you Newman.
When the colonists arrived in North America, they couldn't survive without the natives. They literally died out.
The Natives taught them how to fish, hunt, battle, build shelter etc...
Where evolution factored in is that they couldn't culturally adapt to technology and biologically adapt to disease.
The overall priciple is still sound.
We learned a trick or two from the abbos with regard to surviving in this land, but the fact is they went 50,000 years without inventing a wheel or putting one brick on top of another. They lose.
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:::D Live and leave sounds the same. Sometimes english does not make sense!
"live" has a "ih" sound like in the word "bit"
"leave" has an "ee" sound like in the word "meet" O0
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You are right Trumpedor, many people stay by me, but just wanted to see what the majority think. Another member did a poll like this about her. So, lets see what they want about me also.
So two wrongs make a right!
That's up for debate - but three rights make a left...
And Dexter, it's a short "i" sound. Learn Yiddish! ;)
(I had an Israeli teacher once who got quite a few laughs talking about a sheet of ice...)
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Stay but knock off your stupid bashing of the west and your "America belongs to the indians" Atzlan crap.
Excellent suggestion newman!
Well, why it doesn't belong to the Indians ?
Same reason the Earth no longer belongs to neanderthals....................
Evolution.
So. because statistically Indians have lower IQ give you the justification to take their land ?
No. Not because of IQ alone.
The fact of life is that nations who do not advance get swallowed up by those that do. This is why the homo-sapien took the land from the neanderthal, why the Brits took Australia from the boongs and why the europeans took America from the indians. They lost the evolutionary race.
Disagree in part with you Newman.
When the colonists arrived in North America, they couldn't survive without the natives. They literally died out.
The Natives taught them how to fish, hunt, battle, build shelter etc...
Where evolution factored in is that they couldn't culturally adapt to technology and biologically adapt to disease.
The overall priciple is still sound.
We learned a trick or two from the abbos with regard to surviving in this land, but the fact is they went 50,000 years without inventing a wheel or putting one brick on top of another. They lose.
Sadly if you can't defend your homeland you will loose it. Thats the way of the world now and even back then.
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Ah, really, Trumpeldor ?
A. The fact that the Indians painted their faces doesn't mean they are more primitive than the "enlightened" Europeans. Actually, some Indian societies were much more advanced than the Europeans in Astronomy, for example. Furthermore, the "brutality" of the Indians that was presented by the colonialists, is the same as the try of the Europeans that tried to show how the Vikings were evil (while they were cleaner then them, the "Barbarians" Celts too) etc' while that is nonesense. The colonialists, face it or not, killed 200 milion Indians in their "enlightened" and their Crusade. Please, cut already your ethnocentric way of view and notice how the "civilised" Europeans killed hundreds of milions of people, sometimes systematically, while the "Barbarians" killed, slaughtered and murdered much less. While the "Barbarians" didn't pretended to be "enlightened" and others and killed, enslaved without much arrogance, the Europeans did and furthermore thought they are better than the people they met and killed over world.
B. The "IQ Test" was invented and developed by Benet in 1908. It was made to test people with Learning disabilities and not normal people. In the 20th century the test was used to show how immigrants (and Jews) are much more stupid than the "pure" white people in the USA. I would suggest all of you people to read "The Mismeasure of Man" by Stephan J. Gold.
The fact of life is that nations who do not advance get swallowed up by those that do. This is why the homo-sapien took the land from the neanderthal, why the Brits took Australia from the boongs and why the europeans took America from the indians. They lost the evolutionary race.
Ah, sure, not that freinds, we call those ideas as "Eugenics". That's a semi-Nazi ideology in my opinion. Not only it was prooved one and a milion times that Jews are monsters, and that they are brainless. You have no right to take other people's land, and if tomarrow i'll proove all Australians are moron I will have the right to take over Australia, do a genocide and than make an Blond-Haired Aryan race that will have the perfect look, brain and body stractur. Who cares it isn't immoral to think we are the elightend and than destroy milions of people. The Nazis did it, the colonialist did, now, let's sent the blacks into gas chambers! Why ? Because they are : Morons, Blacks, Ugly and they are look like monkeys.
Really Newman, that's a really not sane and immoral arguement to use.
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Stay but knock off your stupid bashing of the west and your "America belongs to the indians" Atzlan crap.
Excellent suggestion newman!
Well, why it doesn't belong to the Indians ?
Same reason the Earth no longer belongs to neanderthals....................
Evolution.
So. because statistically Indians have lower IQ give you the justification to take their land ?
No. Not because of IQ alone.
The fact of life is that nations who do not advance get swallowed up by those that do. This is why the homo-sapien took the land from the neanderthal, why the Brits took Australia from the boongs and why the europeans took America from the indians. They lost the evolutionary race.
Disagree in part with you Newman.
When the colonists arrived in North America, they couldn't survive without the natives. They literally died out.
The Natives taught them how to fish, hunt, battle, build shelter etc...
Where evolution factored in is that they couldn't culturally adapt to technology and biologically adapt to disease.
The overall priciple is still sound.
We learned a trick or two from the abbos with regard to surviving in this land, but the fact is they went 50,000 years without inventing a wheel or putting one brick on top of another. They lose.
Sadly if you can't defend your homeland you will loose it. Thats the way of the world now and even back then.
Exactly.
But it's deeper than that. Stagnate and die out. That's the rule of life. If your family opted to remain horse buggy whip makers like your great grandfather was you'd be broke now.
Just imagine if Jews rejected advancement and wanted to do nothing but keep goats/sheep and plant vinyards like they did 3000 years ago. They'd be extinct today!
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Are you awere the "fact" that Sefardic Jews have lawer IQ. Wait! If we are of the same people with the Ashkenazis, we suppose to have the same IQ. So, what happend ? Ah, we lived in a Islamic Society that effected us. It didn't made are stupid geneticlly, it made us "stupid" because we didn't have the same way of thinking as the ashkenazi Jews does (cultural diffrences).
In a experiment that was made in the 70' in Israel. People took Sefardic Jews and Ashkenazi Jews who lived in the same economic statuse and in the same place (a kibbutz). And they got almost the same IQ (people are diffrent after all) and not 11 points diffrent as the "IQ tests" trying to show us. The reason sefardic Jews have statistclly lower IQ is because that they are in much lower economic class than most Ashkenazi. The reason is in the 50' years when most Sefardics came to Israel.
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Are you awere the "fact" that Sefardic Jews have lawer IQ. Wait! If we are of the same people with the Ashkenazis, we suppose to have the same IQ. So, what happend ? Ah, we lived in a Islamic Society that effected us. It didn't made are stupid geneticlly, it made us "stupid" because we didn't have the same way of thinking as the ashkenazi Jews does (cultural diffrences).
In a experiment that was made in the 70' in Israel. People took Sefardic Jews and Ashkenazi Jews who lived in the same economic statuse and in the same place (a kibbutz). And they got almost the same IQ (people are diffrent after all) and not 11 points diffrent as the "IQ tests" trying to show us. The reason sefardic Jews have statistclly lower IQ is because that they are in much lower economic class than most Ashkenazi. The reason is in the 50' years when most Sefardics came to Israel.
Is it possible to show were you read this?
Interesting information.
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Just imagine if Jews rejected advancement and wanted to do nothing but keep goats/sheep and plant vinyards like they did 3000 years ago. They'd be extinct today!
Even if Jews had decided to live as they did 3000 years ago, I'd still claim, Eretz Israel leAm Yisrael. We are humans not animals. Hashem gave us reason and moral, the sense of respect for others even when we are stronger and can destroy them!!!! Some animals are guided by the law that the stronger survives, we are a different species, and know morality.
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Are you awere the "fact" that Sefardic Jews have lawer IQ. Wait! If we are of the same people with the Ashkenazis, we suppose to have the same IQ. So, what happend ? Ah, we lived in a Islamic Society that effected us. It didn't made are stupid geneticlly, it made us "stupid" because we didn't have the same way of thinking as the ashkenazi Jews does (cultural diffrences).
In a experiment that was made in the 70' in Israel. People took Sefardic Jews and Ashkenazi Jews who lived in the same economic statuse and in the same place (a kibbutz). And they got almost the same IQ (people are diffrent after all) and not 11 points diffrent as the "IQ tests" trying to show us. The reason sefardic Jews have statistclly lower IQ is because that they are in much lower economic class than most Ashkenazi. The reason is in the 50' years when most Sefardics came to Israel.
Is it possible to show were you read this?
Interesting information.
The "fact" that Sefardic Jews have lower IQ ?
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To all members of this forum, I will leave if I get a majority of affimative votes.
For those who may not remember my views, I am pro-Israelite Goy, but I oopose the Western culture. I defend all natives' right to their land. I am pro-polygamy, defend Nature and Ecology. Religiously I belive in Mt Gerizim as the Chosen Place and the Shomroni Torah, however I claim Israelites' rights on ALL Eretz Yisrael, especially on Jerualem.
You choose if you want me here or not.
As an interested party I hit on ABSTAIN.
You definately have very wierd views which will never amount to anything in our world's society...Perhaps you should take into account why your views are so way off...
But otherwise, i think you should stay.
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Ah, really, Trumpeldor ?
A. The fact that the Indians painted their faces doesn't mean they are more primitive than the "enlightened" Europeans. Actually, some Indian societies were much more advanced than the Europeans in Astronomy, for example.
You didn't really read what I wrote. I don't believe they sat there painting their faces but it seems that you do, based on your depiction of them as innocent little natives who had their land stolen.
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Ah, really, Trumpeldor ?
A. The fact that the Indians painted their faces doesn't mean they are more primitive than the "enlightened" Europeans. Actually, some Indian societies were much more advanced than the Europeans in Astronomy, for example. Furthermore, the "brutality" of the Indians that was presented by the colonialists, is the same as the try of the Europeans that tried to show how the Vikings were evil (while they were cleaner then them, the "Barbarians" Celts too) etc' while that is nonesense. The colonialists, face it or not, killed 200 milion Indians in their "enlightened" and their Crusade. Please, cut already your ethnocentric way of view and notice how the "civilised" Europeans killed hundreds of milions of people, sometimes systematically, while the "Barbarians" killed, slaughtered and murdered much less. While the "Barbarians" didn't pretended to be "enlightened" and others and killed, enslaved without much arrogance, the Europeans did and furthermore thought they are better than the people they met and killed over world.
B. The "IQ Test" was invented and developed by Benet in 1908. It was made to test people with Learning disabilities and not normal people. In the 20th century the test was used to show how immigrants (and Jews) are much more stupid than the "pure" white people in the USA. I would suggest all of you people to read "The Mismeasure of Man" by Stephan J. Gold.
The fact of life is that nations who do not advance get swallowed up by those that do. This is why the homo-sapien took the land from the neanderthal, why the Brits took Australia from the boongs and why the europeans took America from the indians. They lost the evolutionary race.
Ah, sure, not that freinds, we call those ideas as "Eugenics". That's a semi-Nazi ideology in my opinion. Not only it was prooved one and a milion times that Jews are monsters, and that they are brainless. You have no right to take other people's land, and if tomarrow i'll proove all Australians are moron I will have the right to take over Australia, do a genocide and than make an Blond-Haired Aryan race that will have the perfect look, brain and body stractur. Who cares it isn't immoral to think we are the elightend and than destroy milions of people. The Nazis did it, the colonialist did, now, let's sent the blacks into gas chambers! Why ? Because they are : Morons, Blacks, Ugly and they are look like monkeys.
Really Newman, that's a really not sane and immoral arguement to use.
http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php?topic=12997.0
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Ah, really, Trumpeldor ?
A. The fact that the Indians painted their faces doesn't mean they are more primitive than the "enlightened" Europeans. Actually, some Indian societies were much more advanced than the Europeans in Astronomy, for example.
You didn't really read what I wrote. I don't believe they sat there painting their faces but it seems that you do, based on your depiction of them as innocent little natives who had their land stolen.
I did but I guess my English isn't very well (especielly now it's 5 AM here :-X).
And they aren't innocent little natives, but compared to the Colonialists ? Well, they are.
Newman -
You didn't borrow a thing of Nazism (I know you didn't). That idea wasn't invented by the Nazis but only because of them it gaind actually power. Don't you think it's immoral to believe in such ideas?
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Ah, really, Trumpeldor ?
A. The fact that the Indians painted their faces doesn't mean they are more primitive than the "enlightened" Europeans. Actually, some Indian societies were much more advanced than the Europeans in Astronomy, for example.
You didn't really read what I wrote. I don't believe they sat there painting their faces but it seems that you do, based on your depiction of them as innocent little natives who had their land stolen.
I did but I guess my English isn't very well (especielly now it's 5 AM here :-X).
And they aren't innocent little natives, but compared to the Colonialists ? Well, they are.
Newman -
You didn't borrow a thing of Nazism (I know you didn't). That idea wasn't invented by the Nazis but only because of them it gaind actually power. Do you think it's immoral to believe in such ideas?
My ideas are in no way similar to the nazis and the nazis' ideas are in no way similar to those of the european colonists of the new world. To even say so is leftist poison.
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Ah, really, Trumpeldor ?
A. The fact that the Indians painted their faces doesn't mean they are more primitive than the "enlightened" Europeans. Actually, some Indian societies were much more advanced than the Europeans in Astronomy, for example.
You didn't really read what I wrote. I don't believe they sat there painting their faces but it seems that you do, based on your depiction of them as innocent little natives who had their land stolen.
I did but I guess my English isn't very well (especielly now it's 5 AM here :-X).
And they aren't innocent little natives, but compared to the Colonialists ? Well, they are.
Newman -
You didn't borrow a thing of Nazism (I know you didn't). That idea wasn't invented by the Nazis but only because of them it gaind actually power. Do you think it's immoral to believe in such ideas?
My ideas are in no way similar to the nazis and the nazis' ideas are in no way similar to those of the european colonists of the new world. To even say so is leftist poison.
I agree. The Europeans genuinely thought the land was there's, and that they were helping ("civilizing") these people - despite all common sense, logic, and reason to the contrary...
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Are you awere the "fact" that Sefardic Jews have lawer IQ. Wait! If we are of the same people with the Ashkenazis, we suppose to have the same IQ. So, what happend ? Ah, we lived in a Islamic Society that effected us. It didn't made are stupid geneticlly, it made us "stupid" because we didn't have the same way of thinking as the ashkenazi Jews does (cultural diffrences).
In a experiment that was made in the 70' in Israel. People took Sefardic Jews and Ashkenazi Jews who lived in the same economic statuse and in the same place (a kibbutz). And they got almost the same IQ (people are diffrent after all) and not 11 points diffrent as the "IQ tests" trying to show us. The reason sefardic Jews have statistclly lower IQ is because that they are in much lower economic class than most Ashkenazi. The reason is in the 50' years when most Sefardics came to Israel.
Is it possible to show were you read this?
Interesting information.
The "fact" that Sefardic Jews have lower IQ ?
I want to know what the IQ of the average Jew is compared to non-Jews
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I want to know what the IQ of the average Jew is compared to non-Jews
Ashkenazis average around 115. Strongest Verbal IQ, average Spatial IQ.
Mongoloids average 105. However, Mongoloids have a stronger Spatial IQ than Jews.
Non-Jewish Caucasoids average 100. Sephardic Jews are also around here.
Blacks average about 80.
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You say Ashkenazis. 115
so if you compare with Sefardim , normally these studies show lower than 100 IQ.
I saw a study giving Israel's average IQ 75.
now i see Sefardim have same results if they are given a similar environment as Ashkenazis.
OK. WERE DO WE GET OBJECTIVE RESULTS?
How much of intelligence is "genetical"; the question is the biggest taboo in today's anthropology.
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Don't forget that arabs lower the Israeli IQ. The ones who are in Israel are part Black. This isn't all Arabs, there are white Arabs too.
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Is there an IQ - survey that excludes 'Gentiles' in Israel?
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That I don't know, but we know outside of Israel how Sephardic Jews and how Ashkenazi Jews generally perform.
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Stay but knock off your stupid bashing of the west and your "America belongs to the indians" Atzlan crap.
I've changed my mind.
You're a troll. P*ss off!
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Grr! >:( He is not a troll and has never done anything remotely troll-like!
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Stay but knock off your stupid bashing of the west and your "America belongs to the indians" Atzlan crap.
I've changed my mind.
You're a troll. P*ss off!
What made you change your mind?
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Stay but knock off your stupid bashing of the west and your "America belongs to the indians" Atzlan crap.
I've changed my mind.
You're a troll. P*ss off!
What made you change your mind?
His support for the bogus, Jew-hating, muSSlim-loving black hebros.
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I didn't see that post yet.
But yea, he has some crazy opinions, but so what?
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To all members of this forum, I will leave if I get a majority of affimative votes.
For those who may not remember my views, I am pro-Israelite Goy, but I oopose the Western culture. I defend all natives' right to their land. I am pro-polygamy, defend Nature and Ecology. Religiously I belive in Mt Gerizim as the Chosen Place and the Shomroni Torah, however I claim Israelites' rights on ALL Eretz Yisrael, especially on Jerualem.
You choose if you want me here or not.
As an interested party I hit on ABSTAIN.
You definately have very wierd views which will never amount to anything in our world's society...Perhaps you should take into account why your views are so way off...
But otherwise, i think you should stay.
My views wil obviously seem weird to your society. You protest aganst the evils from within this world society, I'm simply outside it. You may disagree with most ideologies and religions but do it from a standard rationale. I just live in a completely different world. You may understand the world through plain thinking, I just see it from Nature and seasons and believe everithing in this world has an inmaterial equivalent.
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I just live in a completely different world.
You've got that right!
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I just live in a completely different world.
You've got that right!
And what's the problem with that?
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In your mind you did something wrong so Go and don't let the door hit you in the butt when you leave.
I don't know anything about you but I voted for you to go because this Go and Stay thing is stupid.
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In your mind you did something wrong so Go and don't let the door hit you in the butt when you leave.
I don't know anything about you but I voted for you to go because this Go and Stay thing is stupid.
You could have read my original post in the thread. I made this poll because JTF is interested in saving Israel and the West, and I am only interested in saving Israel. So I wondered if I fit here.
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No you should stay.
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I would suggest that the Moderators lock this thread. Raulmarrio2000, you should not leave, and this thread has only caused trouble.
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Well, now it's begun. Better let them vote as the others did. Thank you Srah and OdKahaneChai.
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Why? What will this accomplish.
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Nothing, but if you close it, some could argue that you are favoring me!!!