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Israel => Save Israel => Topic started by: Alexander on December 09, 2007, 07:44:24 AM
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As a Greek Orthodox Christian this article made me feel quite ashamed about the Church's dealings with the state of Israel. It makes me sick to think that the current patriarch is supported by the PA, Hamas, and Condoleeza Rice.
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59075
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Most of the large, mainstream churches are Jew-haters.
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What about Patriarch Alexei II of Moscow?
Russia
During the gubernatorial election campaign in Tyumen province, the outgoing governor Leonid Roketsky was accused of insinuating that there was a Jewish conspiracy against his rule. He therefore supported a nationalist leader and welcomed the dissemination of anti-Semitic articles in the local press. The local newspaper 'Pravda Tyumeni', known for its racist articles, defended the outgoing governor against what it defined as the 'Jewish connection'.
In an article published in the 'Argumenty I Fakti' newspaper, Vasily Shandybin, deputy member of parliament from the Communist party in the Bryansk province, was described as anti-Semitic and anti-Western. At a Worker's Day rally, during which copies of the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" were distributed, Shandybin declared that 'Moscow was occupied by the enemy'.
The Orthodox Patriarch Alexey II sent his compliments to the editorial board and the readers of the newspaper 'Russkie Vestnik', the mouthpiece of the Russian Orthodox church, which is known for its anti-Semitic publications.
At a lecture given at a yearly event of the Russian Orthodox University in Moscow, Professor Kurnosov from the Ecology Department accused the Jews working in the government, the media and the business world of causing all Russia's problems. When he called on the Russian people 'to open their eyes' he was enthusiastically applauded.
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/anti-semitism/antisem0101.html
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mainly it's the evangelical christians who are good, though there are exceptions...
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As a Greek Orthodox Christian this article made me feel quite ashamed about the Church's dealings with the state of Israel. It makes me sick to think that the current patriarch is supported by the PA, Hamas, and Condoleeza Rice.
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59075
Condi Rice is a discrace and need to got. That Jew hating goat should be impeached
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I have to agree with everyone. There has been much bad blood between the Church and the Jewish people. Its very sad to me because we have so much in common. Despite obvious major religious differences, many of our rituals and customs share a common origin. I would think we could work together in this day and age to help defeat the muslim threat. I can only pray this will happen someday.
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I have to agree with everyone. There has been much bad blood between the Church and the Jewish people. Its very sad to me because we have so much in common. Despite obvious major religious differences, many of our rituals and customs share a common origin. I would think we could work together in this day and age to help defeat the muslim threat. I can only pray this will happen someday.
This must change! Christianity comes from Judaism, Judaism is the oldest western religion, Christianity is just an offshoot of Judaism and this anti-semetism has to stop between the Orthodox churches and other Christian churches in general!
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Russians are antisemitic in general; (sorry for our Serbian friends) and Russian ortodox church see the Jews as agents of the west, poisoning Russian soul or sum such rubish ::)... that' why we don't have Russian mebers here, But all ortodox churches are autonomous and independent from one another and Jeruslam's ortodox church are just another bunch of (A-rab) dhimis.
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Russians are antisemitic in general; (sorry for our Serbian friends) and Russian ortodox church see the Jews as agents of the west, poisoning Russian soul or sum such rubish ::)... that' why we don't have Russian mebers here, But all ortodox churches are autonomous and independent from one another and Jeruslam's ortodox church are just another bunch of (A-rab) dhimis.
My family has roots, though Russian Jewish ones, Russian Jews tend to be quite pro-Israel and Zionistic, much better than most American Jews
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Russians are antisemitic in general; (sorry for our Serbian friends) and Russian ortodox church see the Jews as agents of the west, poisoning Russian soul or sum such rubish ::)... that' why we don't have Russian mebers here, But all ortodox churches are autonomous and independent from one another and Jeruslam's ortodox church are just another bunch of (A-rab) dhimis.
My family has roots, though Russian Jewish ones, Russian Jews tend to be quite pro-Israel and Zionistic, much better than most American Jews
Elizier,
do you think Putin has an anti-semitical agenda?
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Russians are antisemitic in general; (sorry for our Serbian friends) and Russian ortodox church see the Jews as agents of the west, poisoning Russian soul or sum such rubish ::)... that' why we don't have Russian mebers here, But all ortodox churches are autonomous and independent from one another and Jeruslam's ortodox church are just another bunch of (A-rab) dhimis.
My family has roots, though Russian Jewish ones, Russian Jews tend to be quite pro-Israel and Zionistic, much better than most American Jews
Correct. Some have lived through the evil communist regimes and truly understand what evil and liberalism is.
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A Russian Jew knows what totalitarianism means... not only from the books....
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Most greeks are anti-semites....beleive me !
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Most greeks are anti-semites....beleive me !
Well, it's true some are, I'm not sure about most. Most have had a long history of Anti-Semetism in Greece you could say.
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There is alot of sympathy in Greece towards Nazi/Muslim pigs in the media and Israel is often viewed as the bad guys. I rememeber waking up at night, watching TV and they were advertising some dvds tittled: The Enemies of the Greeks. There were just two: The Turks and the Jews. I was in shock. I blame the Jewish community for not having the guts to stand up and defend themselves.
Greece fought hard to protect its Jews in WW2 but Papandreou's government in the 1980s had a big influence in stirring the anti-semetism that there is today. Maybe they don't beat up jews on the street but they do vandalize jewish mounments, cementaries and being openly anti-semetic is widely accepted.
Read this article:
http://www.jcpa.org/phas/phas-23.htm (http://www.jcpa.org/phas/phas-23.htm)
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We need a big clash in Europe to wake the people up and convince them who is and who isn't the enemy.
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We need a big clash in Europe to wake the people up and convince them who is and who isn't the enemy.
I agree !!!
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We need a big clash in Europe to wake the people up and convince them who is and who isn't the enemy.
Exactly, Ambiorix! O0
muSSlims are the enemy! >:(
Not Jews! >:(
it seems some Europeans still stick to the hitlerian propaganda dreck! :P
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We need a big clash in Europe to wake the people up and convince them who is and who isn't the enemy.
Exactly, Ambiorix! O0
muSSlims are the enemy! >:(
Not Jews! >:(
it seems some Europeans still stick to the hitlerian propaganda dreck! :P
The cause for the post WWII - anti-Judaism is very simple.
Media during the 60-70-80-90-ties have been struggling to unite the people for communist agendas.
Suid-Afrika was destroyed by the ANC and the internal communist .
Now Israel is enemy nº1.
Every day since the first intifada you see pictures of 'defenceless pal-people' against the 'enormous israeli army'. Th focus is always the misery of the pal-people, not what happens to the Jews.
two generations have been indoctrinated to hate nazism, to hate segregationism, ....
Then they read / hear propaganda from the muslims/neo-nazis/antisemites/humanrights/...
that Israel is a 'racist' state, that Jews are doing exactly the 'same ' as what hitler did to them.
Then these people start to see the 'hidden power' behind everything (website Weltner , Duke ,...)
is Zionism & 'internationale Judentoms' , and they believe the protocols/elders/zion , that are describing -oh what a miracle - 'exactly' what happens....
*****
Suddenly it becomes "cool " to hate Jews again.
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We need a big clash in Europe to wake the people up and convince them who is and who isn't the enemy.
Exactly, Ambiorix! O0
muSSlims are the enemy! >:(
Not Jews! >:(
it seems some Europeans still stick to the hitlerian propaganda dreck! :P
The cause for the post WWII - anti-Judaism is very simple.
Media during the 60-70-80-90-ties have been struggling to unite the people for communist agendas.
Suid-Afrika was destroyed by the ANC and the internal communist .
Now Israel is enemy nº1.
Every day since the first intifada you see pictures of 'defenceless pal-people' against the 'enormous israeli army'. Th focus is always the misery of the pal-people, not what happens to the Jews.
two generations have been indoctrinated to hate nazism, to hate segregationism, ....
Then they read / hear propaganda from the muslims/neo-nazis/antisemites/humanrights/...
that Israel is a 'racist' state, that Jews are doing exactly the 'same ' as what hitler did to them.
Then these people start to see the 'hidden power' behind everything (website Weltner , Duke ,...)
is Zionism & 'internationale Judentoms' , and they believe the protocols/elders/zion , that are describing -oh what a miracle - 'exactly' what happens....
*****
Suddenly it becomes "cool " to hate Jews again.
Couldn't agree more. O0 Communism has also contributed alot to this problem. >:(
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We need a big clash in Europe to wake the people up and convince them who is and who isn't the enemy.
Exactly, Ambiorix! O0
muSSlims are the enemy! >:(
Not Jews! >:(
it seems some Europeans still stick to the hitlerian propaganda dreck! :P
The cause for the post WWII - anti-Judaism is very simple.
Media during the 60-70-80-90-ties have been struggling to unite the people for communist agendas.
Suid-Afrika was destroyed by the ANC and the internal communist .
Now Israel is enemy nº1.
Every day since the first intifada you see pictures of 'defenceless pal-people' against the 'enormous israeli army'. Th focus is always the misery of the pal-people, not what happens to the Jews.
two generations have been indoctrinated to hate nazism, to hate segregationism, ....
Then they read / hear propaganda from the muslims/neo-nazis/antisemites/humanrights/...
that Israel is a 'racist' state, that Jews are doing exactly the 'same ' as what hitler did to them.
Then these people start to see the 'hidden power' behind everything (website Weltner , Duke ,...)
is Zionism & 'internationale Judentoms' , and they believe the protocols/elders/zion , that are describing -oh what a miracle - 'exactly' what happens....
*****
Suddenly it becomes "cool " to hate Jews again.
Couldn't agree more. O0 Communism has also contributed alot to this problem. >:(
to difficult for 99,9% of the people to grasp:
Nazism IS communism.
Anti-fascism IS communism.
anti-Nazism IS Nazism
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We need a big clash in Europe to wake the people up and convince them who is and who isn't the enemy.
Exactly, Ambiorix! O0
muSSlims are the enemy! >:(
Not Jews! >:(
it seems some Europeans still stick to the hitlerian propaganda dreck! :P
The cause for the post WWII - anti-Judaism is very simple.
Media during the 60-70-80-90-ties have been struggling to unite the people for communist agendas.
Suid-Afrika was destroyed by the ANC and the internal communist .
Now Israel is enemy nº1.
Every day since the first intifada you see pictures of 'defenceless pal-people' against the 'enormous israeli army'. Th focus is always the misery of the pal-people, not what happens to the Jews.
two generations have been indoctrinated to hate nazism, to hate segregationism, ....
Then they read / hear propaganda from the muslims/neo-nazis/antisemites/humanrights/...
that Israel is a 'racist' state, that Jews are doing exactly the 'same ' as what hitler did to them.
Then these people start to see the 'hidden power' behind everything (website Weltner , Duke ,...)
is Zionism & 'internationale Judentoms' , and they believe the protocols/elders/zion , that are describing -oh what a miracle - 'exactly' what happens....
*****
Suddenly it becomes "cool " to hate Jews again.
Couldn't agree more. O0 Communism has also contributed alot to this problem. >:(
to difficult for 99,9% of the people to grasp:
Nazism IS communism.
Anti-fascism IS communism.
anti-Nazism IS Nazism
Nazism and Communism are basically the same thing with minor differences.
They both are forms of control and totalitarianism.
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We need a big clash in Europe to wake the people up and convince them who is and who isn't the enemy.
Exactly, Ambiorix! O0
muSSlims are the enemy! >:(
Not Jews! >:(
it seems some Europeans still stick to the hitlerian propaganda dreck! :P
The cause for the post WWII - anti-Judaism is very simple.
Media during the 60-70-80-90-ties have been struggling to unite the people for communist agendas.
Suid-Afrika was destroyed by the ANC and the internal communist .
Now Israel is enemy nº1.
Every day since the first intifada you see pictures of 'defenceless pal-people' against the 'enormous israeli army'. Th focus is always the misery of the pal-people, not what happens to the Jews.
two generations have been indoctrinated to hate nazism, to hate segregationism, ....
Then they read / hear propaganda from the muslims/neo-nazis/antisemites/humanrights/...
that Israel is a 'racist' state, that Jews are doing exactly the 'same ' as what hitler did to them.
Then these people start to see the 'hidden power' behind everything (website Weltner , Duke ,...)
is Zionism & 'internationale Judentoms' , and they believe the protocols/elders/zion , that are describing -oh what a miracle - 'exactly' what happens....
*****
Suddenly it becomes "cool " to hate Jews again.
Couldn't agree more. O0 Communism has also contributed alot to this problem. >:(
You mean evil "Zionists" it's not PC to call them evil "JOOS", only die hard passe nazis do this, but of course you have right, Israel is viewed as chief obsatcle in creation of New (secular) Word Order where every nation and state will be absorbed in global BORG style comunity/empire, becouse Jews as well as Flamands, Boers or Serbs have tradition of independance and ethnic separatism which is viewed as modern Heresy.
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We need a big clash in Europe to wake the people up and convince them who is and who isn't the enemy.
Exactly, Ambiorix! O0
muSSlims are the enemy! >:(
Not Jews! >:(
it seems some Europeans still stick to the hitlerian propaganda dreck! :P
The cause for the post WWII - anti-Judaism is very simple.
Media during the 60-70-80-90-ties have been struggling to unite the people for communist agendas.
Suid-Afrika was destroyed by the ANC and the internal communist .
Now Israel is enemy nº1.
Every day since the first intifada you see pictures of 'defenceless pal-people' against the 'enormous israeli army'. Th focus is always the misery of the pal-people, not what happens to the Jews.
two generations have been indoctrinated to hate nazism, to hate segregationism, ....
Then they read / hear propaganda from the muslims/neo-nazis/antisemites/humanrights/...
that Israel is a 'racist' state, that Jews are doing exactly the 'same ' as what hitler did to them.
Then these people start to see the 'hidden power' behind everything (website Weltner , Duke ,...)
is Zionism & 'internationale Judentoms' , and they believe the protocols/elders/zion , that are describing -oh what a miracle - 'exactly' what happens....
*****
Suddenly it becomes "cool " to hate Jews again.
Couldn't agree more. O0 Communism has also contributed alot to this problem. >:(
You mean evil "Zionists" it's not PC to call them evil "JOOS", only die hard passe nazis do this, but of course you have right, Israel is viewed as chief obsatcle in creation of New (secular) Word Order where every nation and state will be absorbed in global BORG style comunity/empire, becouse Jews as well as Flamands, Boers or Serbs have tradition of independance and ethnic separatism which is viewed as modern Heresy.
our Flemish people have been mixed up the last 500 years with occupying forces , so our independence or ethnic separatism isn't that spectacular. Today i see a 3-5 Flemish woman a day with white/black interbreeds, which is , at least in my point of view, horrifying.
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You do want to break up from the "precius" Belgium the XIX cetury prototype of the EU, which is "horible" crime/heresy. ::)
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You do want to break up from the "precius" Belgium the XIX cetury prototype of the EU, which is "horible" crime/heresy. ::)
Wallonia has no access to the sea; this gives them an economical disadvantage.
But we Flemish have a far more active attitude than them. 80% of the export comes from our part!
Eventually the Belgian State will be split in three or four parts.
Flanders, Wallonia, Brussels will become republics, the German part of Wallonia will be probably given back to Germany.
I think it would be a good idea to have more regions becoming independent of the big nation-states: Bask , Scotland , Corsica , ...
It is better for economy to have small nations that compete with each-other , than having these mega-nations as USSR/EU etc,...
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There is alot of sympathy in Greece towards Nazi/Muslim pigs in the media and Israel is often viewed as the bad guys. I rememeber waking up at night, watching TV and they were advertising some dvds tittled: The Enemies of the Greeks. There were just two: The Turks and the Jews. I was in shock. I blame the Jewish community for not having the guts to stand up and defend themselves.
Greece fought hard to protect its Jews in WW2 but Papandreou's government in the 1980s had a big influence in stirring the anti-semetism that there is today. Maybe they don't beat up jews on the street but they do vandalize jewish mounments, cementaries and being openly anti-semetic is widely accepted.
Read this article:
http://www.jcpa.org/phas/phas-23.htm (http://www.jcpa.org/phas/phas-23.htm)
Greeks are half turk.
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You do want to break up from the "precius" Belgium the XIX cetury prototype of the EU, which is "horible" crime/heresy. ::)
Wallonia has no access to the sea; this gives them an economical disadvantage.
But we Flemish have a far more active attitude than them. 80% of the export comes from our part!
Eventually the Belgian State will be split in three or four parts.
Flanders, Wallonia, Brussels will become republics, the German part of Wallonia will be probably given back to Germany.
I think it would be a good idea to have more regions becoming independent of the big nation-states: Bask , Scotland , Corsica , ...
It is better for economy to have small nations that compete with each-other , than having these mega-nations as USSR/EU etc,...
I wud rather see Europe as network of Kingdoms, Dukedoms and Free States, sharing common culture, customs and values, like HRE but internaly autonomus than this Bastard child of (late) Roman Empire, III REICH and Soviet union called EU, but fragmenting into to many parts will leave us valnurable to American influence, China ambitions or Islamic Jihad. Maybe you shud consider joining your Dutch brothers from the north.
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There is alot of sympathy in Greece towards Nazi/Muslim pigs in the media and Israel is often viewed as the bad guys. I rememeber waking up at night, watching TV and they were advertising some dvds tittled: The Enemies of the Greeks. There were just two: The Turks and the Jews. I was in shock. I blame the Jewish community for not having the guts to stand up and defend themselves.
Greece fought hard to protect its Jews in WW2 but Papandreou's government in the 1980s had a big influence in stirring the anti-semetism that there is today. Maybe they don't beat up jews on the street but they do vandalize jewish mounments, cementaries and being openly anti-semetic is widely accepted.
Read this article:
http://www.jcpa.org/phas/phas-23.htm (http://www.jcpa.org/phas/phas-23.htm)
Greeks are half turk.
Well, perhaps some Greeks have parial Turkish ancestry from the Ottoman Empire perhaps in the East and parts of the Islands near Turkey and Greeks from Cyprus with arranged Turkish marriages.