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Israel => Save Israel => Topic started by: artgijo on December 11, 2007, 01:02:43 PM
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Hi All
If any emergency, INDIA is ready to absorb the entire population of ISRAEL and give them protection. OUR RSS/VHP/BJP brothers are in millions who will slit the throat of Muslims and Nuke dirty countries who are against peace and freedom.
Our dearest leader Mr.NARENDRA MODI is winning in India again and we promose you guys that no one can touch us, no international law is applicable to us, and we give a damn to world community. We will slaughter anyone who is against the Hinu values, at the same time we are peace lovig and friendly people. I want to meet ultranationalist jews from around the world.
Regards
GIJO
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Really ?
Where did you heard that India will do that for us ?
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I herd that after WW2 The Australian government considered making a Jewish homeland in the Kimberley Region of western australia in case the arabs won.
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I herd that after WW2 The Australian government considered making a Jewish homeland in the Kimberley Region of western australia in case the arabs won.
hmm.. sounds interesting, where did you hear that?
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India - Israeli Relations:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Israeli_relations (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Israeli_relations)
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Go figure...No need to retire to Boca where it is nice and hot...India will do the job ;)...we love you guys!
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India - Israeli Relations:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Israeli_relations (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Israeli_relations)
Good article. O0
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I herd that after WW2 The Australian government considered making a Jewish homeland in the Kimberley Region of western australia in case the arabs won.
hmm.. sounds interesting, where did you hear that?
Not the government, sorry.
But the idea had a lot of support here.
The Kimberley Plan, or Kimberley Scheme was a failed plan by the Freeland League to resettle Jewish refugees from Europe before and during the Holocaust.
The League, led by Isaac Nachman Steinberg, selected the Kimberley region in Australia in hope to buy an area of 7 million acres (28,000 km²) of agricultural land for 75,000 Jews fleeing Europe.[1] Steinberg based his campaign on the officially declared need to populate northern Australia. On May 23, 1939 he arrived in Perth and by early 1940 gained substantial public support, but also encountered opposition.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kimberley_Plan
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I herd that after WW2 The Australian government considered making a Jewish homeland in the Kimberley Region of western australia in case the arabs won.
hmm.. sounds interesting, where did you hear that?
Not the government, sorry.
But the idea had a lot of support here.
The Kimberley Plan, or Kimberley Scheme was a failed plan by the Freeland League to resettle Jewish refugees from Europe before and during the Holocaust.
The League, led by Isaac Nachman Steinberg, selected the Kimberley region in Australia in hope to buy an area of 7 million acres (28,000 km²) of agricultural land for 75,000 Jews fleeing Europe.[1] Steinberg based his campaign on the officially declared need to populate northern Australia. On May 23, 1939 he arrived in Perth and by early 1940 gained substantial public support, but also encountered opposition.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kimberley_Plan
Very interesting indeed, newman.
Thanks for the article.
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I herd that after WW2 The Australian government considered making a Jewish homeland in the Kimberley Region of western australia in case the arabs won.
hmm.. sounds interesting, where did you hear that?
Not the government, sorry.
But the idea had a lot of support here.
The Kimberley Plan, or Kimberley Scheme was a failed plan by the Freeland League to resettle Jewish refugees from Europe before and during the Holocaust.
The League, led by Isaac Nachman Steinberg, selected the Kimberley region in Australia in hope to buy an area of 7 million acres (28,000 km²) of agricultural land for 75,000 Jews fleeing Europe.[1] Steinberg based his campaign on the officially declared need to populate northern Australia. On May 23, 1939 he arrived in Perth and by early 1940 gained substantial public support, but also encountered opposition.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kimberley_Plan
Very interesting indeed, newman.
Thanks for the article.
The Kimberleys aren't EY, but the crocodiles & dingoes and abbos would have made better neighbours than arabs..............and stank less!
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I herd that after WW2 The Australian government considered making a Jewish homeland in the Kimberley Region of western australia in case the arabs won.
hmm.. sounds interesting, where did you hear that?
Not the government, sorry.
But the idea had a lot of support here.
The Kimberley Plan, or Kimberley Scheme was a failed plan by the Freeland League to resettle Jewish refugees from Europe before and during the Holocaust.
The League, led by Isaac Nachman Steinberg, selected the Kimberley region in Australia in hope to buy an area of 7 million acres (28,000 km²) of agricultural land for 75,000 Jews fleeing Europe.[1] Steinberg based his campaign on the officially declared need to populate northern Australia. On May 23, 1939 he arrived in Perth and by early 1940 gained substantial public support, but also encountered opposition.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kimberley_Plan
Very interesting indeed, newman.
Thanks for the article.
The Kimberleys aren't EY, but the crocodiles & dingoes and abbos would have made better neighbours than arabs..............and stank less!
;D ;D ;D
I'm sure the smell was much more tolerable. ;D
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More on Yitshak Nahman Shtaynberg and the plan for an Aussie Jewish homeland:
STEINBERG, ISAAC NACHMAN (1888-1957), lawyer, politician and publicist, was born on 13 July 1888 at Dvinsk (Daugav'pils), Latvia, Russian Empire, son of Zerakh Steinberg, a Jewish merchant, and his wife Chiana, née Eliashev. Isaac spent most of his youth in Moscow, living in an environment characteristic of the Russian Jewish intelligentsia, but was educated at the gymnasium at Pernov (Pyarnu), Estonia. In 1906 he entered the Imperial Moscow University, where he studied law and joined the Socialist Revolutionary Party. Following his exile in 1907, he completed an LL.D. at the University of Heidelberg, Germany, in 1910. That year he returned to Russia. He worked as a lawyer, defending Jewish victims of the tsarist régime, and won endorsement for the Duma, the Russian parliament. In 1914 he married Nekhama Solomonovna Yeselson (d.1954); they were to have a son and two daughters. From December 1917 to March 1918 he was commissar of justice in Lenin's government during the Bolsheviks' short-lived coalition with the left wing of the S.R.P. After resigning from the government in protest at the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk, Steinberg campaigned against the Bolsheviks. Effectively banished in 1923, he moved to Germany.
When the Nazis came to power in 1933, Steinberg arranged for his wife and children to join him in London. There he helped to found the Freeland League for Jewish Territorial Colonization, a body which attempted to find a refuge for persecuted European Jews. The league selected the East Kimberley region in Australia's north-west, planned to buy an area of 7 million acres (2,832,830 ha)), and hoped to settle 75,000 Jewish refugees to develop the pastoral and agricultural industries.
On 23 May 1939 Steinberg arrived in Perth. An indefatigable publicist for the Kimberley scheme, he appealed to people both on humanitarian grounds and by citing the officially declared need to populate northern Australia. He made a strong impression on all who met him. George Farwell described him as having a 'thick, short body', a 'black beard bristling from a pale, fine-grained face' and 'quizzing eyes beneath that broad dome of forehead'. He 'talked with great passion, laughed explosively' and 'gave way to abrupt splurges of anger if his ideas were challenged'.
By early 1940 Steinberg had gained the support of the Western Australian government, the Australasian Council of Trade Unions, a number of leading public figures, and major newspapers such as the Sydney Morning Herald, the Melbourne Argus and the West Australian. He had also encountered opposition from the Bulletin, Smith's Weekly, some daily newspapers and several politicians, whose arguments ranged from the practical to the xenophobic and racist. For their part, many Australian Jews criticized the proposed settlement: some feared that it would provoke a wave of anti-Semitism in Australia, while others saw it as a threat to the Zionist cause.
Steinberg left Australia in June 1943 to rejoin his family in Canada. On 15 July 1944 he was informed by Prime Minister John Curtin that the Australian government would not 'depart from the long-established policy in regard to alien settlement in Australia' and could not 'entertain the proposal for a group settlement of the exclusive type contemplated by the Freeland League'. Steinberg continued to wage a paper battle for the scheme. He approached successive prime ministers in 1945 and 1946, and published Australia—The Unpromised Land (London, 1948). It was to no avail.
After the State of Israel was established in 1948, Steinberg expressed concern at the idea of an exclusively Jewish—rather than a bi-national Jewish-Arab—nation. In the ensuing years he continued to be a proponent of Jewish settlement outside Israel. He died suddenly on 2 January 1957 in New York; his son and a daughter survived him. His close friend Erich Fromm wrote: 'Many people would have called Isaac Steinberg a dreamer, or a visionary, and yet, he was one of the true, and unfortunately few, realists of our time'.
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Hi All
If any emergency, INDIA is ready to absorb the entire population of ISRAEL and give them protection. OUR RSS/VHP/BJP brothers are in millions who will slit the throat of Muslims and Nuke dirty countries who are against peace and freedom.
Our dearest leader Mr.NARENDRA MODI is winning in India again and we promose you guys that no one can touch us, no international law is applicable to us, and we give a damn to world community. We will slaughter anyone who is against the Hinu values, at the same time we are peace lovig and friendly people. I want to meet ultranationalist jews from around the world.
Regards
GIJO
Jews should not be in favour of idol worshipping religions.
I think the indian people will have mixed views on Israel.
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India is the only country in the world where Jews have never been perscuted, the Indians are good tolerant civilized people, thay've more than earned and deserve our friendship.
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Hi All
If any emergency, INDIA is ready to absorb the entire population of ISRAEL and give them protection. OUR RSS/VHP/BJP brothers are in millions who will slit the throat of Muslims and Nuke dirty countries who are against peace and freedom.
Our dearest leader Mr.NARENDRA MODI is winning in India again and we promose you guys that no one can touch us, no international law is applicable to us, and we give a damn to world community. We will slaughter anyone who is against the Hinu values, at the same time we are peace lovig and friendly people. I want to meet ultranationalist jews from around the world.
Regards
GIJO
Jews should not be in favour of idol worshipping religions.
I think the indian people will have mixed views on Israel.
You can say nothing, you are a Muslim. You follow the only religion that has ZERO credibility on any issues.
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Hi All
If any emergency, INDIA is ready to absorb the entire population of ISRAEL and give them protection. OUR RSS/VHP/BJP brothers are in millions who will slit the throat of Muslims and Nuke dirty countries who are against peace and freedom.
Our dearest leader Mr.NARENDRA MODI is winning in India again and we promose you guys that no one can touch us, no international law is applicable to us, and we give a damn to world community. We will slaughter anyone who is against the Hinu values, at the same time we are peace lovig and friendly people. I want to meet ultranationalist jews from around the world.
Regards
GIJO
Jews should not be in favour of idol worshipping religions.
I think the indian people will have mixed views on Israel.
You can say nothing, you are a Muslim. You follow the only religion that has ZERO credibility on any issues.
Ok then.
Promote idol worshipping if you wish.
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Hi All
If any emergency, INDIA is ready to absorb the entire population of ISRAEL and give them protection. OUR RSS/VHP/BJP brothers are in millions who will slit the throat of Muslims and Nuke dirty countries who are against peace and freedom.
Our dearest leader Mr.NARENDRA MODI is winning in India again and we promose you guys that no one can touch us, no international law is applicable to us, and we give a damn to world community. We will slaughter anyone who is against the Hinu values, at the same time we are peace lovig and friendly people. I want to meet ultranationalist jews from around the world.
Regards
GIJO
Jews should not be in favour of idol worshipping religions.
I think the indian people will have mixed views on Israel.
You can say nothing, you are a Muslim. You follow the only religion that has ZERO credibility on any issues.
Fair go, Nic.
Sarah loves Jews. She's against sharia law, jihad and all the other muSSlim BS.
She's entitled to her oppinion.
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Why has the Indian Gov over the years been so tolerant on the Musslim terrorists who constantly attack and kill the Hindus... I thought that just a way of Life for the Hindu Indians to be passive and turn the other cheek. I'll definitely welcome this change! Thanks Gijo!
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Anthony Cordesmen is one of the U.S.'s leading military strategist Israel will survive but will others
http://www.upi.com/International_Security/Emerging_Threats/Analysis/2007/11/21/walkers_world_a_mideast_nuclear_war/9884/print_view/
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[Emerging Threats - Analysis
Walker's World: A Mideast nuclear war?
Published: Nov. 21, 2007 at 11:00 AM
By MARTIN WALKER
UPI Editor Emeritus
WASHINGTON, Nov. 21 (UPI) -- Anthony Cordesman may be the most influential man in Washington that most people have never heard of. A former director of intelligence assessment for the secretary of defense and director of policy and planning in the Department of Energy, he is now the top strategic guru at the Center for Strategic & International Studies.
Most serious politicians and journalists have for some years based their analyses of the Iraq war and its aftermath on his universally respected research. Cordesman is a facts man who likes and reveres good data and cool, clinical analysis as the keystones of policymaking.
He has now turned his laser-like research and forensic intelligence skills to studying the real implication of the endless diplomatic minuet at the United Nations over Iran's nuclear ambitions. In the real world, this matters mainly because an Iranian nuclear capability would transform the power balance in the wider Middle East, and leave the region and the rest of us living under the constant prospect of a nuclear exchange between Iran and Israel.
This would mean, Cordesman suggests, some 16 million to 28 million Iranians dead within 21 days, and between 200,000 and 800,000 Israelis dead within the same time frame. The total of deaths beyond 21 days could rise very much higher, depending on civil defense and public health facilities, where Israel has a major advantage.
It is theoretically possible that the Israeli state, economy and organized society might just survive such an almost-mortal blow. Iran would not survive as an organized society. "Iranian recovery is not possible in the normal sense of the term," Cordesman notes.
The difference in the death tolls is largely because Israel is believed to have more nuclear weapons of very much higher yield (some of 1 megaton), and Israel is deploying the Arrow advanced anti-missile system in addition to its Patriot batteries. Fewer Iranian weapons would get through.
The difference in yield matters. The biggest bomb that Iran is expected to have is 100 kilotons, which can inflict third-degree burns on exposed flesh at 8 miles; Israel's 1-megaton bombs can inflict third-degree burns at 24 miles. Moreover, the radiation fallout from an airburst of such a 1-megaton bomb can kill unsheltered people at up to 80 miles within 18 hours as the radiation plume drifts. (Jordan, by the way, would suffer severe radiation damage from an Iranian strike on Tel Aviv.)
Cordesman assumes that Iran, with less than 30 nuclear warheads in the period after 2010, would aim for the main population centers of Tel Aviv and Haifa, while Israel would have more than 200 warheads and far better delivery systems, including cruise missiles launched from its 3 Dolphin-class submarines.
The assumption is that Israel would be going for Iran's nuclear development centers in Tehran, Natanz, Ardekan, Saghand, Gashin, Bushehr, Aral, Isfahan and Lashkar A'bad. Israel would also likely target the main population centers of Tehran, Tabriz, Qazvin, Isfahan, Shiraz, Yazd, Kerman, Qom, Ahwaz and Kermanshah. Cordesman points out that the city of Tehran, with a population of 15 million in its metropolitan area, is "a topographic basin with mountain reflector. Nearly ideal nuclear killing ground."
But it does not end there. Cordesman points out that Israel would need to keep a "reserve strike capability to ensure no other power can capitalize on Iranian strike." This means Israel would have to target "key Arab neighbors" -- in particular Syria and Egypt.
Cordesman notes that Israel would have various options, including a limited nuclear strike on the region mainly inhabited by the Alawite minority from which come the ruling Assad dynasty. A full-scale Israeli attack on Syria would kill up to 18 million people within 21 days; Syrian recovery would not be possible. A Syrian attack with all its reputed chemical and biological warfare assets could kill up to 800,000 Israelis, but Israeli society would recover.
An Israeli attack on Egypt would likely strike at the main population centers of Cairo, Alexandria, Damietta, Port Said, Suez, Luxor and Aswan. Cordesman does not give a death toll here, but it would certainly be in the tens of millions. It would also destroy the Suez Canal and almost certainly destroy the Aswan dam, sending monstrous floods down the Nile to sweep away the glowing rubble. It would mean the end of Egypt as a functioning society.
Cordesman also lists the oil wells, refineries and ports along the Gulf that could also be targets in the event of a mass nuclear response by an Israel convinced that it was being dealt a potentially mortal blow. Being contained within the region, such a nuclear exchange might not be Armageddon for the human race; it would certainly be Armageddon for the global economy.
So in clear, concise and chillingly forensic style, Cordesman spells out that the real stakes in the crisis that is building over Iran's nuclear ambitions would certainly include the end of Persian civilization, quite probably the end of Egyptian civilization, and the end of the Oil Age. This would also mean the end of globalization and the extraordinary accretions in world trade and growth and prosperity that are hauling hundreds of millions of Chinese and Indians and others out of poverty.
Cordesman concludes his chilling but dismayingly logical survey with the warning: "The only way to win is not to play."
© United Press International. All Rights Reserved.
This material may not be reproduced, redistributed, or manipulated in any form./quote]
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I honestly couldn't care how the Indians worship, they have their beliefs, they don't push to convert anybody, they repect and tolerate other's, and those people have my respect, I recognize a true friend when I see one, they are good rightous people.
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Hi All
If any emergency, INDIA is ready to absorb the entire population of ISRAEL and give them protection. OUR RSS/VHP/BJP brothers are in millions who will slit the throat of Muslims and Nuke dirty countries who are against peace and freedom.
Our dearest leader Mr.NARENDRA MODI is winning in India again and we promose you guys that no one can touch us, no international law is applicable to us, and we give a damn to world community. We will slaughter anyone who is against the Hinu values, at the same time we are peace lovig and friendly people. I want to meet ultranationalist jews from around the world.
Regards
GIJO
Jews should not be in favour of idol worshipping religions.
I think the indian people will have mixed views on Israel.
You can say nothing, you are a Muslim. You follow the only religion that has ZERO credibility on any issues.
Fair go, Nic.
Sarah loves Jews. She's against sharia law, jihad and all the other muSSlim BS.
She's entitled to her oppinion.
Sorry, I have nothing against Sarah. :)
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Hi All
If any emergency, INDIA is ready to absorb the entire population of ISRAEL and give them protection. OUR RSS/VHP/BJP brothers are in millions who will slit the throat of Muslims and Nuke dirty countries who are against peace and freedom.
Our dearest leader Mr.NARENDRA MODI is winning in India again and we promose you guys that no one can touch us, no international law is applicable to us, and we give a damn to world community. We will slaughter anyone who is against the Hinu values, at the same time we are peace lovig and friendly people. I want to meet ultranationalist jews from around the world.
Regards
GIJO
Jews should not be in favour of idol worshipping religions.
I think the indian people will have mixed views on Israel.
You can say nothing, you are a Muslim. You follow the only religion that has ZERO credibility on any issues.
Ok then.
Promote idol worshipping if you wish.
At least we will not behead a jew or blow him up.At least we respect their religion and know the value of human life.You speak same as a muslim who hate idol worshipers we are not telling you guys to worship indian gods we are here to fight islam.If both parties would love to live peacefully then why bring religion into this?Another thing for your information most hindus respect all the gods i my self have went to church to pray to jesus,sikh temple and we also celebrate christmas
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Hi All
If any emergency, INDIA is ready to absorb the entire population of ISRAEL and give them protection. OUR RSS/VHP/BJP brothers are in millions who will slit the throat of Muslims and Nuke dirty countries who are against peace and freedom.
Our dearest leader Mr.NARENDRA MODI is winning in India again and we promose you guys that no one can touch us, no international law is applicable to us, and we give a damn to world community. We will slaughter anyone who is against the Hinu values, at the same time we are peace lovig and friendly people. I want to meet ultranationalist jews from around the world.
Regards
GIJO
Jews should not be in favour of idol worshipping religions.
I think the indian people will have mixed views on Israel.
You can say nothing, you are a Muslim. You follow the only religion that has ZERO credibility on any issues.
Ok then.
Promote idol worshipping if you wish.
At least we will not behead a jew or blow him up.At least we respect their religion and know the value of human life.You speak same as a muslim who hate idol worshipers we are not telling you guys to worship indian gods we are here to fight islam.If both parties would love to live peacefully then why bring religion into this?Another thing for your information most hindus respect all the gods i my self have went to church to pray to jesus,sikh temple and we also celebrate christmas
I prefer a righteous/peaceful idol worshiper/pagan to a Jew-hating, phsycotic monotheist.
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Spot on ASHISH. O0
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Spot on ASHISH. O0
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Hi All
If any emergency, INDIA is ready to absorb the entire population of ISRAEL and give them protection. OUR RSS/VHP/BJP brothers are in millions who will slit the throat of Muslims and Nuke dirty countries who are against peace and freedom.
Our dearest leader Mr.NARENDRA MODI is winning in India again and we promose you guys that no one can touch us, no international law is applicable to us, and we give a damn to world community. We will slaughter anyone who is against the Hinu values, at the same time we are peace lovig and friendly people. I want to meet ultranationalist jews from around the world.
Regards
GIJO
Jews should not be in favour of idol worshipping religions.
I think the indian people will have mixed views on Israel.
You can say nothing, you are a Muslim. You follow the only religion that has ZERO credibility on any issues.
Ok then.
Promote idol worshipping if you wish.
At least we will not behead a jew or blow him up.At least we respect their religion and know the value of human life.You speak same as a muslim who hate idol worshipers we are not telling you guys to worship indian gods we are here to fight islam.If both parties would love to live peacefully then why bring religion into this?Another thing for your information most hindus respet all the gods i my self have went to church to pray to jesus,sikh temple and we also celebrate christmas
Yeah I know hindus are respectful, peaceful and good people but forming very tight bonds between india and israel, personally isn't the greatest thing to do.
You may prefer good people to bad people. Though promoting and encouraging people to worship Idols is wrong.
I'm sorry Ashish if i insulted you. You celebrate christmas?
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How many times will i have to tell you we are not promoting our religion here >:(.In todays modern world every country needs to have friends during kargil war israel really helped india and when india will become more powerful it will help israel More over it is due to india that pakistan has never attacked israel
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How many times will i have to tell you we are not promoting our religion here >:(.In todays modern world every country needs to have friends during kargil war israel really helped india and when india will become more powerful it will help israel More over it is due to india that pakistan has never attacked israel
Dude I never said you were!! This topic had posts reading that India would protect and link with Israel together.
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How many times will i have to tell you we are not promoting our religion here >:(.In todays modern world every country needs to have friends during kargil war israel really helped india and when india will become more powerful it will help israel More over it is due to india that pakistan has never attacked israel
Dude I never said you were!! This topic had posts reading that India would protect and link with Israel together.
What is wrong with it if israel is attacked by arabs would you not like 1billion people to help you guys we can definitely arrange 400million strong army :P
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Long Live to israel, India and...Serbia.
When will we ALL unite ?
Down forever with pakibaalestinobosnialbanazis !!!
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Long Live to israel, India and...Serbia.
When will we ALL unite ?
Down forever with pakibaalestinobosnialbanazis !!!
I'd like to see a conservative economic/political alliance betwwen India, Israel, USA, Australia, Serbia. We could tell the EU, UN, World Bank, OPEC etc to get stuffed.
Who'd care about China or arabs then?
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Long Live to israel, India and...Serbia.
When will we ALL unite ?
Down forever with pakibaalestinobosnialbanazis !!!
We can only unite and work together when people will understand what political correctness crap is for eq dhiimmi muslim loving congress govt of india supports palestine cause which is contrary to the thinking of non muslims in india who always feel that israel is surrounded by savages and the only language these arabs will understand is the language of fear if israel puts her guard down these arabs will eat her up
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Re: Anthony Cordesman assessment of Mid-East nuclear exchange
What, exactly, Mr. Cordesman defines as "will survive" is something he doesn't discuss in this article.
Such an exchange of nuclear weaponry between Israel and any of her neighbors, will leave in the aftermath a region of the Earth in which any survivors will envy those who perished in the initial detonations.
All electronic equipment of any kind will be defunct; including computers, phones, automobiles.
The number of burn victims and trauma victims caused by collapsing structures, broken glass flying through the air, will be more than any available hospitals or doctors (considering, of course, that any will remain standing; which is most doubtful) could possibly help and treat.
Of those burn victims and trauma victims who may remain alive after the first few days, most will soon succumb to the effects of absorbing lethal amounts of radiation; their hair will fall out, they will develop nausea, and most will succumb to leukemia within weeks.
Of those that remain alive after several weeks, the majority will begin developing other fatal cancers, such as cancers of the thyroid, breast, bone, lungs, etc...
Little if any food products or drinking water will remain, and of those, little if any will remain uncontaminated.
Radioactive fallout will quickly begin raining down from the sky, the wind patterns being the sole determinant as to which areas below are blanketed with it.
These dustlike particles will kill anyone exposed to them for up to two weeks, unless they are in underground stocked bunkers during that period.
After the first two weeks, underground survivors will only be able to go above ground for 10 to 30 minutes before returning to shelter.
As each day passes, the radioactivity of the fallout will diminish.
Even when it allows survivors access above ground, they will be receiving heavy amounts of radiation, but for such short periods that immediate effects on health will not be seen.
The only sentence in Cordesman's article which should be taken seriously is the last one; stating "...the only way to win, is not to play...".
In my opinion, The State of Israel is so small a land area that withstanding of nuclear detonations in Jerusalem, Tel-Aviv, and Haifa, will mean the end of The Jewish State.
It is true that human beings can survive a nuclear exchange, but that is only if they are underground in blast-proof fallout shelters which are equipped to sustain life for several weeks.
I've read that Olmert & friends have built their own "Survival Bunker" deep beneath the Jerusalem hills, so that the government and military leadership will survive any coming nuclear war. As to the remaining population within Israel, Olmert & buddies aren't the least bit interested in them.
*The Bush Administration has done the exact same...made sure that they and their immediate families, together with Cabinet members & Military leaders, will all survive deep in fully stocked underground cities which already exist. Seems the American government also isn't the least concerned with the American population surviving either.
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Very nice from India to offer assaylum to Jews in case of danger. But it's pathetic to think about such a disaster. Better nuke Iran now!!!!!
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I think that Jews should form a greater alliance with India, on the Kahane.org website there used to be a link to Hindu Unity and the same thing on Hindu Unity
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Long Live to israel, India and...Serbia.
When will we ALL unite ?
Down forever with pakibaalestinobosnialbanazis !!!
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The Jews will never again be uprooted from their land, but there are dark times ahead. God will rescue Israel in that day. While I appreciate India's friendly gesture, it is not needed.
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Thanks again. I've always been an admirer of Indian culture and I try to learn more about it every day Wink
We know that. Mills is a devoted follower of Kama Sutra 8;)
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Thanks again. I've always been an admirer of Indian culture and I try to learn more about it every day Wink
What she means is that Mills is an avid reader and follower of Kamasutram 8;)
Mills is a great righteous member ;) O0
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Life in India is not easy. An extremely poor country, disease rampant, with severe over crowding. Have nothing against Indians, I think they are good people.
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The Jews will never again be uprooted from their land, but there are dark times ahead. G-d will rescue Israel in that day. While I appreciate India's friendly gesture, it is not needed.
it is up to us if there are dark times, we can choose if we want to let the moshiach come b'zmano or earlier
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india is one of the largest democracies in the world, and is home to so many hindus and sikhs, who are peaceful decent people.. Pakistan is a muslim infested little violent dictatorship
I wouldn`t get too excited about india and israel saving each other.. It seems to me that both have bad governments.. too incompetent to even deal with themselves. India lacks lobbying power, their plight is ignored by the media.
I remember when the indian parliament was attacked.. Tony Blair gave some stupid speech saying it struck him as if his own paliament had been attacked.
BALONEY!
And worse..
Remember how the israeli government treats the druze though, or other good arabs. So, I would not expect too much from the israeli government.
What annoys me is that indians in britain probably see themselves like pakistanis, because the media lumps them as "asians", and white racists lump them together as "pakis".
India is a great democracy. Pakistan is a cr*ppy little dictatorship.
I remember, after that attack, or perhaps after another one, by the moooslims.. India`s sikh prime minister, Dr Singh, spoke to the world said something along the lines of "I condemn the attack" and India is peaceful and tolerant. He was speaking as if he did it!!!!!!!
Israel did score some brownie points with india when they helped after the earthquake in india some years ago.
Hindus don`t bomb things.. But I wish they did. Bomb the muslims! I am all for bombs, as long as they are not muslim! Hindu nationalist parties don`T get a voice on british tv.. I remember seeing one cut off by some british muslim pakistani. .
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Re: "...india is one of the largest democracies in the world..."
Correction:
India is the world's largest democracy.
One out of every five people on earth are Indian.
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The new Airbus 380 can carry at a pinch 1000 people for 15000 miles. 1000 round the clock flights could transfer the 1 million Jewish Israelis that would be worthy of being saved to India! There may yet be a Third Exile!
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The new Airbus 380 can carry at a pinch 1000 people for 15000 miles. 1000 round the clock flights could transfer the 1 million Jewish Israelis that would be worthy of being saved to India! There may yet be a Third Exile!
You wan't to Give up your homeland to Palestinians without the fight? :-\ Nuke Mecca, Kosovo, Quom and NW Pakistan and use the Aribuses to tranferr the surviving muslims to Saudi desert instead O0. I had the Sikh MD neighbuer who maried Polish girl, and he was very decent fellow; kick out the leftist traitors from India and Israel and you'll be well.
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If this is true then G-d Bless them
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The new Airbus 380 can carry at a pinch 1000 people for 15000 miles. 1000 round the clock flights could transfer the 1 million Jewish Israelis that would be worthy of being saved to India! There may yet be a Third Exile!
Isaiah 11:10-16
In that day the Root of Jesse will stand as a banner for the peoples; the nations will rally to him, and his place of rest will be glorious. 11 In that day the Lord will reach out his hand a second time to reclaim the remnant that is left of his people from Assyria, from Lower Egypt, from Upper Egypt, from Cush, [c] from Elam, from Babylonia, [d] from Hamath and from the islands of the sea.
12 He will raise a banner for the nations
and gather the exiles of Israel;
he will assemble the scattered people of Judah
from the four quarters of the earth.
13 Ephraim's jealousy will vanish,
and Judah's enemies [e] will be cut off;
Ephraim will not be jealous of Judah,
nor Judah hostile toward Ephraim.
14 They will swoop down on the slopes of Philistia to the west;
together they will plunder the people to the east.
They will lay hands on Edom and Moab,
and the Ammonites will be subject to them.
15 The LORD will dry up
the gulf of the Egyptian sea;
with a scorching wind he will sweep his hand
over the Euphrates River. [f]
He will break it up into seven streams
so that men can cross over in sandals.
16 There will be a highway for the remnant of his people
that is left from Assyria,
as there was for Israel
when they came up from Egypt.
The bold highlights the second gathering of Jews. The first was after the Babylonian exile, the 20th and 21st centuries are the 2nd. The second regathering is associated with the Kingdom of Messiah, or root of Jesse. Interestingly this prophecy predicts defeat for the Philistines; I find it amusing that the Arabs in Gaza and Judea Sumeria insist on being called the Latin version of Philistine. Also defeat is predicted for Egypt and Jordan (Moab, Edom and Ammon). There will be no 3rd exile, the Kingdom of G-d is at hand.
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America is such a great and powerful country..I was thinking of it on the globe as north central and south.. But I guess the great powerful country is USA.. which is "only" the center of north america.. and a similar size to Canada..
Russia is a democracy isn`t it? A totalitarian democracy, but a democracy..
The democracy is about the majourity of the people getting their way.. one man one vote. Freedom is something else! In the USA the bill of rights trumps democracy.. So if 51% of people voted to kill the other 49%, it would not pass.
People call israel a democracy.. thinking it is a free country, but it is not a free country. There are no juries. The press is state controlled. And they have this issue with the supreme court running the show.
And of course if you accept Chamish like theories, then their main policies comes from outside!
Is Israel more free than russia?
and how does india compare in freedom, to israel, and to russia ?
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q__q,
The United States of America is not a democracy.
Nor was it ever intended to be one.
It is a Republic under Constitutional Law, with democratic elections.
A "democracy" is tantamount to "Mob Rule".
The U.S. Supreme Court is responsible for adjudicating cases "of last resort"...those which seem to fall into a category where the written law is vague or subject to interpretation.
Their difficult job is to weigh all the facts in accordance with legal precedent as well as society's changing mores and customs, so that they establish new precedents for legal applications as they judge whether or not written laws are to be either rejected, or may be applied within Constitutional limits.
Israel is in fact more "democratic"...Israel has no formal Constitution...a parliamentary majority makes the rules as they go along.
From what little knowledge I have of the Israeli Supreme Court, it does not seem to function as an independent judicial body, but rather as a body beholden to certain political interests as well as foreign interests.
Israel has what is possibly the world's worst "western styled" government.
Many of the country's laws were those set down by the former Ottoman Turks, from the times during which Turkey ruled the area.
Along with Turkish laws are many legal remnants from the British Mandate period; including the law allowing for "Preventive Detention", whereby anyone may be arrested for any reason whatsoever, and held for a long period without charges, without legal counsel, and without the ability to contact one's immediate family, members.
All that is necessary for a citizen to be arrested is to disagree with the government.
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I like the Indian people in general. They are very nice hard working and friendly people. Also they are very humble. The only thing I don't like about them is their polytheism.
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That can solve the Pakistan menace forever! Musharref will loose his sleep over this ;D
Already Jews helped India to win 3 wars against Pakistan. It was a Jew who lead the Indian army into victory in the Bangladesh war ((Lieutenant General JFR Jacob (Jacob-Farj-Rafael Jacob) ).
http://www.despardes.com/newsmakers/gen-jacob-sep8.htm
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I like the Indian people in general. They are very nice hard working and friendly people. Also they are very humble. The only thing I don't like about them is their polytheism.
I prefer Indian polytheism that lives & lets live to muSSlim-nazi monotheism that MUST murder, forcibly convert or enslave.
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At least they ,the Indians, don't dream they will be rewarded for killing my family.That makes them decent in my book! ;)
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I think G-d hears the Indian's prayers, because they are good people. ::)<- He just does this when he observes how they are doing it.
Probably thinks, "Okay, by what name are you calling me today." ::)