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Torah and Jewish Idea => Torah and Jewish Idea => Topic started by: Dexter on January 17, 2008, 01:57:43 PM
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Leftists say Settlers cut Arab olive trees, alothough it's against what the Torah commends us:
כִּי-תָצוּר אֶל-עִיר יָמִים רַבִּים לְהִלָּחֵם עָלֶיהָ לְתָפְשָׂהּ, לֹא-תַשְׁחִית אֶת-עֵצָהּ לִנְדֹּחַ עָלָיו גַּרְזֶן--כִּי מִמֶּנּוּ תֹאכֵל, וְאֹתוֹ לֹא תִכְרֹת: כִּי הָאָדָם עֵץ הַשָּׂדֶה, לָבֹא מִפָּנֶיךָ בַּמָּצוֹר.
-דברים כ, י''ט
So never listen to the Leftists saying those things.
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Can you provide a translation of this verse? :)
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If the trees grow in Eretz Yisrael, they are Hashem's trees and do not belong to the Arabs.
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Can you provide a translation of this verse? :)
Sure:
When thou shalt besiege a city a long time, in making war against it to take it, thou shalt not destroy the trees thereof by forcing an axe against them: for thou mayest eat of them, and thou shalt not cut them down (for the tree of the field is man's life) to employ them in the siege:
the trees grow in Eretz Yisrael, they are Hashem's trees and do not belong to the Arabs.
Every tree on the earth belongs to God, but God commend us not to harm trees of gentiles thet we win.
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If the trees grow in Eretz Yisrael, they are Hashem's trees and do not belong to the Arabs.
I agree, it's better to cut down A-rabs intead of good trees. But maybe the Piss now and/or A-rab themselfs cutt those trees to blame the settlers, just like the water supply to an A-rab village earlier.
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This doesnt apply when there is a military need to destroy the trees
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This doesnt apply when there is a military need to destroy the trees
True, Pikuah Nefesh, but would you know if its allowed in order to weaken your enemy (for example the arabs getting their income from those trees). At Biblical times when they were beseiging a city, they were actually using those trees for themselves, and when they would win it would be their trees, but in this case we have the eruv rav who controls the land, and Jews aren't profiting from those trees. I was just wondering.
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If the trees grow in Eretz Yisrael, they are Hashem's trees and do not belong to the Arabs.
I agree, it's better to cut down A-rabs intead of good trees. But maybe the Piss now and/or A-rab themselfs cutt those trees to blame the settlers, just like the water supply to an A-rab village earlier.
They have even been caught many times in the past (on video), it was posted on arutz shevs before.
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Muslims say that near the end of the world, the Jews in Israel will try and hide behind trees but they will not succeed, and thats why there are many Jews who keep planting trees because they're scared that this might happen.
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Muslims say that near the end of the world, the Jews in Israel will try and hide behind trees but they will not succeed, and thats why there are many Jews who keep planting trees because they're scared that this might happen.
That's technicly true that part about muSSlime belives but the rest is simply put antisemitic: Jews are not cowards and won't hide from A-rabs they'll sooner turn the fleas infested SA dessert around Mecca into glass. O0
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Can you provide a translation of this verse? :)
Sure:
When thou shalt besiege a city a long time, in making war against it to take it, thou shalt not destroy the trees thereof by forcing an axe against them: for thou mayest eat of them, and thou shalt not cut them down (for the tree of the field is man's life) to employ them in the siege:
the trees grow in Eretz Yisrael, they are Hashem's trees and do not belong to the Arabs.
Every tree on the earth belongs to G-d, but G-d commend us not to harm trees of gentiles thet we win.
Sure, if we conquered the land and threw them out, we would not be cutting down the trees.
We have not taken the land from them. They are occupying our land.
At the moment, the situation is that they are planting trees in order to mark territory as theirs.
Regarding the fact that this was from leftists. It is not the business of people who do not believe in the torah, to tell us how to follow the torah.
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its just a political move, like most. Arab-Muslims just want the settlers arrested and persecuted