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Title: Jewish student attacked
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on January 21, 2008, 06:12:48 PM
In Crown Heights, a Jewish student was attacked while walking to a friend's house by 5 blacks.  So far it hasn't been called a 'hate crime".  BIG SHOCK HERE!!  What do you think?  How many of you have heard about this story?
Title: Re: Jewish student attacked
Post by: Yid on January 21, 2008, 06:14:14 PM
what about an little nostalgic "eye for an eye"-action?
Title: Re: Jewish student attacked
Post by: KansasJew on January 21, 2008, 06:16:10 PM
What is sad many Jewish people are not savvy enought to take up a Martial Art in the community. That may have given these attackers a pause after seeing two or three of them laying on the ground broken and bleeding.
Title: Re: Jewish student attacked
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on January 21, 2008, 06:16:19 PM
I don't know about that.
Title: Re: Jewish student attacked
Post by: Yid on January 21, 2008, 06:19:35 PM
What is sad many Jewish people are not savvy enought to take up a Martial Art in the community. That may have given these attackers a pause after seeing two or three of them laying on the ground broken and bleeding.

well, how many jews is there in crown heights? what he should have been carried is a gun, martial art is useless, life's no steven seagal-movie
Title: Re: Jewish student attacked
Post by: KansasJew on January 21, 2008, 06:21:47 PM
Okay here we go again lol. Carry a gun go to jail in some cities when you pull a weapon it is a felony called aggravated assault with a deadly weapon. However using your hands and feet are more acceptable in a court of  law. However I am biased since I have been in the arts for over 30 years.

Title: Re: Jewish student attacked
Post by: Yid on January 21, 2008, 06:38:21 PM
even when you are attacked by a mob and claim self-defense?
Title: Re: Jewish student attacked
Post by: KansasJew on January 21, 2008, 06:44:53 PM
Cops do not care they only arrest people and let the Judges and Juries sort out the facts. They only want to clear the streets. I know from personal experiences.
Title: Re: Jewish student attacked
Post by: Tzvi Ben Roshel1 on January 21, 2008, 06:45:26 PM
the best thing to do in this situation is to travel in a pact (with friends). As weak as this might sound- its not worth learning martial arts and getting into a fight expecially with blacks. They are crazy, you might punch them and they might take out a gun and shoot you. They are stupid and crazy enough to be willing to die or kill for their so called respect. So unless you know them (that they aren't carrying a gun) its best to keep a distance.
Title: Re: Jewish student attacked
Post by: Rubystars on January 21, 2008, 06:51:06 PM
There are horrible, awful hate crimes committed all the time, perpetrated by blacks against anyone who is white or even appears white.

Title: Re: Jewish student attacked
Post by: KansasJew on January 21, 2008, 06:55:05 PM
Grandmaster Edmund Parker the founder of American Kenpo Karate once stated the following.

Running is always the best option know where your exits are at all times. And if you have to fight kill all the bastards.
Title: Re: Jewish student attacked
Post by: yeshuadisciple on January 21, 2008, 07:05:23 PM
Grandmaster Edmund Parker the founder of American Kenpo Karate once stated the following.

Running is always the best option know where your exits are at all times. And if you have to fight kill all the bastards.

I take Wing Tsun Kung Fu and my sifu says much the same, if you are badly outnumbered try to quickly take down 1 guy and shock the group and then run while you have time. 
Title: Re: Jewish student attacked
Post by: JTFFan on January 21, 2008, 07:43:16 PM
There are horrible, awful hate crimes committed all the time, perpetrated by blacks against anyone who is white or even appears white.




Terrible
Title: Re: Jewish student attacked
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on January 21, 2008, 07:55:29 PM
Crown Heights has one of the largest hasidic jewish population in New York city.
Title: Re: Jewish student attacked
Post by: The Shadow on January 21, 2008, 08:36:06 PM
How bad was the Jewish boy hurt?  I hope nothing bad.  I hope they catch those blacks, but probably nothing will happen to them even if they do. 
Title: Re: Jewish student attacked
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on January 23, 2008, 05:42:31 PM
He had staples put into his head.  I think it was 2 staples.
Title: Re: Jewish student attacked
Post by: Sarah on January 23, 2008, 05:48:08 PM
He had staples put into his head.  I think it was 2 staples.
Stapler staples? ???
Title: Re: Jewish student attacked
Post by: mord on January 23, 2008, 05:49:44 PM
I once put 1 staple in my hand by accident my father took it out then smacked me for playing with it i was a little kid
Title: Re: Jewish student attacked
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on January 23, 2008, 05:50:41 PM
They are staples to close a head wound.
Title: Re: Jewish student attacked
Post by: mord on January 23, 2008, 05:51:39 PM
oh those staple they are bigger
Title: Re: Jewish student attacked
Post by: dhimmi_pride on January 23, 2008, 05:56:09 PM

The Supreme Court has taken up the case of Washington DCs handgun ban. Lets hope the Court overturns these insane gun control laws so ordinary people can protect themselves.
Title: Re: Jewish student attacked
Post by: OdKahaneChai on January 23, 2008, 06:35:02 PM
The Story:
http://www.crownheights.info/index.php?itemid=10157 (http://www.crownheights.info/index.php?itemid=10157)

CROWN HEIGHTS, Brooklyn [CHI] — A Bochur was viciously beaten in a racially motivated attack Friday night. The incident took place at around 10:00pm when the Bochur was on his way to a friend’s house, and was accosted by 5 Black teens on Carroll Street between Kingston and Brooklyn Avenues.

The group of Blacks pounced on the Bochur, throwing him over and began viciously beating him while cursing at him “you F****** Jew”, “little Jew” and “this is our neighborhood, we will kill you” among other racially motivated slurs and curses. After beating the Bochur for nearly 5 minutes, during which he tried calling for help, they left the scene.

Bloody and beaten the Bochur knocked on the door of one of the houses and Hatzalah was called along with police, they responded and treated the Bochur for bruises all over his body and a deep gash in the top of his head, caused by a rock later found at the scene covered in blood.

The Bochur was taken to a nearby hospital and given a staple on his head for the gash, and was treated for the other injuries.

Police filled out a report and the next day, Shabbos morning, detectives from Bias Crime Unit at One Police Plaza interviewed the Bochur and reported to be taking the case seriously.

CrownHeights.info has learned that there was another assault on Brooklyn and Eastern Parkway where three Bochurim were ganged up on by 5 or 6 Black Teens and were beaten. It is unclear if the two incidents are related.
Title: Re: Jewish student attacked
Post by: christians4jews on January 23, 2008, 07:04:45 PM
i thought chaim said 5 percent were decent, i think he will have to change that figure to 2 percent, because its very rare....

I hope god obliterates all of there souls
Title: Re: Jewish student attacked
Post by: The Shadow on January 23, 2008, 08:06:58 PM
The Jewish students need to walk in large groups of at least 9 or 10.  There should be at least 3 or street tough students assigned to each group.  I think this will help even out the danger.  Everybody should have cell phones and also purchase a pair of steel tipped shoes to be worn everyday to walk the streets.   Everybody should be trained on how to at the minimum kick an attacker with these shoes on.  It's very simple to kcik someone in the shins, and with these steel tipped boots, it would hurt like hell, and maybe break a shin bone.
Title: Re: Jewish student attacked
Post by: judeanoncapta on January 24, 2008, 04:41:19 PM
Chabad has a saying "We don't hit. We don't use our hands."

Better they should learn from the Satmar who smash Puerto Ricans over the head with monkey wrenches.
Title: Re: Jewish student attacked
Post by: OdKahaneChai on January 24, 2008, 06:02:15 PM
Chabad has a saying "We don't hit. We don't use our hands."

Better they should learn from the Satmar who smash Puerto Ricans over the head with monkey wrenches.
Ever heard of the Maccabees?  (I guess they're Shomrim now...)
Title: Re: Jewish student attacked
Post by: Sarah on January 24, 2008, 06:15:28 PM
Are there many police patrolling these areas?
Title: Re: Jewish student attacked
Post by: newman on January 24, 2008, 06:16:01 PM
Chabad has a saying "We don't hit. We don't use our hands."

Better they should learn from the Satmar who smash Puerto Ricans over the head with monkey wrenches.

On this issue I agree firmly with the satmars!

If Kahane (ZT'L) stood for anything it obliterating that awful, ghetto mentallity of "don't hit, don't fight, be a nice-Jewish-boy"!
Title: Re: Jewish student attacked
Post by: OdKahaneChai on January 24, 2008, 06:17:42 PM
Chabad has a saying "We don't hit. We don't use our hands."

Better they should learn from the Satmar who smash Puerto Ricans over the head with monkey wrenches.

On this issue I agree firmly with the satmars!

If Kahane (ZT'L) stood for anything it obliterating that awful, ghetto mentallity of "don't hit, don't fight, be a nice-Jewish-boy"!
As a Chabadnik, I wouldn't hit either...

I'd carry a gun!
Title: Re: Jewish student attacked
Post by: newman on January 24, 2008, 06:22:37 PM
Chabad has a saying "We don't hit. We don't use our hands."

Better they should learn from the Satmar who smash Puerto Ricans over the head with monkey wrenches.

On this issue I agree firmly with the satmars!

If Kahane (ZT'L) stood for anything it obliterating that awful, ghetto mentallity of "don't hit, don't fight, be a nice-Jewish-boy"!
As a Chabadnik, I wouldn't hit either...

I'd carry a gun!

When Moses saw that dirty egyptian abusing his fellow Jews he bashed his brains in then burried the SOB in a hole before he stunk up the joint! Moses was no 'nice Jewish boy'.
Title: Re: Jewish student attacked
Post by: OdKahaneChai on January 24, 2008, 06:25:45 PM
Chabad has a saying "We don't hit. We don't use our hands."

Better they should learn from the Satmar who smash Puerto Ricans over the head with monkey wrenches.

On this issue I agree firmly with the satmars!

If Kahane (ZT'L) stood for anything it obliterating that awful, ghetto mentallity of "don't hit, don't fight, be a nice-Jewish-boy"!
As a Chabadnik, I wouldn't hit either...

I'd carry a gun!

When Moses saw that dirty egyptian abusing his fellow Jews he bashed his brains in then burried the SOB in a hole before he stunk up the joint! Moses was no 'nice Jewish boy'.
Well, not exactly.  Most opinions (or at least Rashi's, I believe) say that he uttered the Yud Kay Vov Kay and the man was killed.  But nevertheless, still the same message.
Title: Re: Jewish student attacked
Post by: newman on January 24, 2008, 06:28:46 PM
Chabad has a saying "We don't hit. We don't use our hands."

Better they should learn from the Satmar who smash Puerto Ricans over the head with monkey wrenches.

On this issue I agree firmly with the satmars!

If Kahane (ZT'L) stood for anything it obliterating that awful, ghetto mentallity of "don't hit, don't fight, be a nice-Jewish-boy"!
As a Chabadnik, I wouldn't hit either...

I'd carry a gun!

When Moses saw that dirty egyptian abusing his fellow Jews he bashed his brains in then burried the SOB in a hole before he stunk up the joint! Moses was no 'nice Jewish boy'.
Well, not exactly.  Most opinions (or at least Rashi's, I believe) say that he uttered the Yud Kay Vov Kay and the man was killed.  But nevertheless, still the same message.
Well anyway, the point is that real Jews like Moshe, Joshua, David and Judah Maccabee weren't sqeamish about wacking a few Jew-haters.
Title: Re: Jewish student attacked
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on January 24, 2008, 07:16:43 PM
Well, they tried.