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The Archbishop of Canterbury says the adoption of certain aspects of Sharia law in the UK "seems unavoidable".
Dr Rowan Williams told Radio 4's World at One that the UK has to "face up to the fact" that some of its citizens do not relate to the British legal system.
Dr Williams argues that adopting parts of Islamic Sharia law would help maintain social cohesion.
For example, Muslims could choose to have marital disputes or financial matters dealt with in a Sharia court.
He says Muslims should not have to choose between "the stark alternatives of cultural loyalty or state loyalty".
An approach to law which simply said - there's one law for everybody - I think that's a bit of a danger
Dr Rowan Williams, Archbishop of Canterbury
In an exclusive interview with BBC correspondent Christopher Landau, ahead of a lecture to lawyers in London later on Monday, Dr Williams argues this relies on Sharia law being better understood. At the moment, he says "sensational reporting of opinion polls" clouds the issue.
He stresses that "nobody in their right mind would want to see in this country the kind of inhumanity that's sometimes been associated with the practice of the law in some Islamic states; the extreme punishments, the attitudes to women as well".
But Dr Williams says the argument that "there's one law for everybody... I think that's a bit of a danger".
"There's a place for finding what would be a constructive accommodation with some aspects of Muslim law, as we already do with some other aspects of religious law."
Dr Williams adds: "What we don't want either, is I think, a stand-off, where the law squares up to people's religious consciences."
"We don't either want a situation where, because there's no way of legally monitoring what communities do... people do what they like in private in such a way that that becomes another way of intensifying oppression inside a community."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7232661.stm
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7232661.stm
The Archbishop of Canterbury says the adoption of certain aspects of Sharia law in the UK "seems unavoidable".
Dr Rowan Williams told Radio 4's World at One that the UK has to "face up to the fact" that some of its citizens do not relate to the British legal system.
Dr Williams argues that adopting parts of Islamic Sharia law would help maintain social cohesion.
For example, Muslims could choose to have marital disputes or financial matters dealt with in a Sharia court.
He says Muslims should not have to choose between "the stark alternatives of cultural loyalty or state loyalty".
'Sensational
The trouble, Dr Williams, is that muslims do not want PART of sharia, they want it all....and want YOU and the rest of the non muslims to obey it or else.
Another problem with the family disputes is that sharia is so contrary to family laws already enforced that it would be impossible...who would enforce it? Would British police be expected to enforce sharia, or would muslims demand their own police, like in saudi.
If muslims feel uncomfortable with secular laws in a country that took them in....there is one very easy solution...they can leave the same way they came.
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This another proof of hipocricy of the left, When they forced their mariage and family civil rights down our throats they didn't said: Christians or Jews should not have to choose between "the stark alternatives of cultural loyalty or state loyalty". What the laying bigots. >:(
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His theology is a nightmare and he loves Islam.
Everybody in Europe knows, that he is an evil antisemite and a Muzzie-lover. >:(
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Yes he is, and his words are clear proofs of Eurabia theory. Soon there will be two kind of euro regions in EU one run by radical secularists other by radical islalmists... guess what in both Christains will not be welcomed and both willl be "Juden Frei".
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What is pope doing about this?
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Dr Rowan Williams - archbiship of canterbury, is a classic idiot. He is quite popular in britain, because he is so liberal.
From my recollection, he is actually a pagan druid! no doubt he sees no contradiction!
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There is no England anymore.
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There is no England anymore.
regarding britain - England Ireland Scotland and Wales.
you still have scotland, and wales.. scottish and welsh saying scotland and wales. same with ireland.
But england is different. The british people that tend to say england tend to mean England for the English. And when they say that, when they say English. They mean people whose ancestors have lived here for generations. So they exclude jews, blacks, asians. e.t.c. They tend to be racists really.
I don`t know if in america people with indian parents are called "asians".
In britain, blacks do not call themselves "african-britains". But neither they nor jews are considered "english".
This is quite different to America.
Where people are told they are american, and told of their rights as an american e.t.c.
Foreign people still say england, but they are not aware of the peculiarities of the word in britain!
I used to think I was "english", but that was before I knew of how people seem to use the word. I started getting funny looks when saying that! The people that use that word would not consider a jew "english".
I guess racists have made the word racist!
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What is pope doing about this?
not much aparently.
In earlier centuries this would certainly have resulted into excommunication.
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My alternative....kick muslims out of the UK.
What a shame that my country of ancestry has become a nation full of cowards. >:(
Britain is a Christian nation, but they don't love their Christian religion enough to defend it from these mooslim invaders. Very SHAMEFUL!
What do you want? The Bolsheviks are doing everything they can to impose "multi-culture".
It serves the elites, to create a new "lower class" and to let whites and non-whites create chaos.
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So it looks like I can never go back to Europe with my girlfriend or future children out of fear for their lives under Eurabia.
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So it looks like I can never go back to Europe with my girlfriend or future children out of fear for their lives under Eurabia.
Don't worry.
Tension is already building up.
Europe will explode in a couple of decades, and all the muslims will be driven out or killed.
O0
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What is pope doing about this?
not much aparently.
In earlier centuries this would certainly have resulted into excommunication.
What???
I think that anyone who thinks the Pope has any authority or influence over the Protestant Archbishop of Canterbury has quite alot of reading to do on the history of Western Civilization.
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What is pope doing about this?
not much aparently.
In earlier centuries this would certainly have resulted into excommunication.
What???
I think that anyone who thinks the Pope has any authority or influence over the Protestant Archbishop of Canterbury has quite alot of reading to do on the history of Western Civilization.
well, yeah. :-\ It's a long time ago i was over there.
Forgot they aren't Catholics :P
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The catholic church should have it's armies invade Britain, hold Inquisition No 2 and kill every CofE member & muSSlim it can get it's hands on.
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The catholic church should have it's armies invade Britain, hold Inquisition No 2 and kill every CofE member & muSSlim it can get it's hands on.
Catholic Cardinals in France or Belgium are just as dhimmi as that Mr. Williams
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The catholic church should have it's armies invade Britain, hold Inquisition No 2 and kill every CofE member & muSSlim it can get it's hands on.
Catholic Cardinals in France or Belgium are just as dhimmi as that Mr. Williams
Exactly
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The catholic church should have it's armies invade Britain, hold Inquisition No 2 and kill every CofE member & muSSlim it can get it's hands on.
Catholic Cardinals in France or Belgium are just as dhimmi as that Mr. Williams
Exactly
But I do grasp the concept Newman!
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The catholic church should have it's armies invade Britain, hold Inquisition No 2 and kill every CofE member & muSSlim it can get it's hands on.
Catholic Cardinals in France or Belgium are just as dhimmi as that Mr. Williams
Exactly
Then evangelical-baptist USA should nuke europe and do ALL of them in.
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The catholic church should have it's armies invade Britain, hold Inquisition No 2 and kill every CofE member & muSSlim it can get it's hands on.
Catholic Cardinals in France or Belgium are just as dhimmi as that Mr. Williams
Exactly
Then evangelical-baptist USA should nuke europe and do ALL of them in.
I will kill everybody that attempts it.
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The catholic church should have it's armies invade Britain, hold Inquisition No 2 and kill every CofE member & muSSlim it can get it's hands on.
What do you mean by CofE member?
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The catholic church should have it's armies invade Britain, hold Inquisition No 2 and kill every CofE member & muSSlim it can get it's hands on.
What do you mean by CofE member?
"Church Of England".
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The catholic church should have it's armies invade Britain, hold Inquisition No 2 and kill every CofE member & muSSlim it can get it's hands on.
What do you mean by CofE member?
"Church Of England".
I thought something else ;D
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The catholic church should have it's armies invade Britain, hold Inquisition No 2 and kill every CofE member & muSSlim it can get it's hands on.
Catholic Cardinals in France or Belgium are just as dhimmi as that Mr. Williams
Exactly
Then evangelical-baptist USA should nuke europe and do ALL of them in.
Be my guest; if they first nuke the other half of America. O0
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The catholic church should have it's armies invade Britain, hold Inquisition No 2 and kill every CofE member & muSSlim it can get it's hands on.
Catholic Cardinals in France or Belgium are just as dhimmi as that Mr. Williams
Exactly
Then evangelical-baptist USA should nuke europe and do ALL of them in.
Be my guest; if they first nuke the other half of America. O0
YEAH!!! COOLL!!