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Having coffee in bed in the morning and spending my day with my animals, family and loved ones.
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Having coffee in bed in the morning and spending my day with my animals, family and loved ones.
You put animals before your family and loved ones. :o
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Having coffee in bed in the morning and spending my day with my animals, family and loved ones.
You put animals before your family and loved ones. :o
Yes, I find animals far better than humans most of the time. I love my family and friends, but they can get on my nerves. My animals never do.
Would I risk my life for my animals, yes I would.
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Yes, I find animals far better than humans most of the time. I love my family and friends, but they can get on my nerves. My animals never do.
Would I risk my life for my animals, yes I would.
What kind of animals do you have?
Would you give up your life for your animals?
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Having coffee in bed in the morning and spending my day with my animals, family and loved ones.
You put animals before your family and loved ones. :o
Yes, I find animals far better than humans most of the time. I love my family and friends, but they can get on my nerves. My animals never do.
Would I risk my life for my animals, yes I would.
This is truly a shame. :'(
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I blame the Jews (myself included of course) We have not educated the world enough about morality. Now it's come to this point where people will risk their lives for the sake of an animal. It's true moral decay and a world upside-down.
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Yes, I find animals far better than humans most of the time. I love my family and friends, but they can get on my nerves. My animals never do.
Would I risk my life for my animals, yes I would.
What kind of animals do you have?
Would you give up your life for your animals?
My animals would give up my life for me, I would do the same.
Ari has started a thread in the animal forum, I am posting there.
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Having coffee in bed in the morning and spending my day with my animals, family and loved ones.
You put animals before your family and loved ones. :o
Yes, I find animals far better than humans most of the time. I love my family and friends, but they can get on my nerves. My animals never do.
Would I risk my life for my animals, yes I would.
This is truly a shame. :'(
Why so sad it does not effect you.
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Having coffee in bed in the morning and spending my day with my animals, family and loved ones.
You put animals before your family and loved ones. :o
Yes, I find animals far better than humans most of the time. I love my family and friends, but they can get on my nerves. My animals never do.
Would I risk my life for my animals, yes I would.
This is truly a shame. :'(
Why so sad it does not effect you.
Yes. It does. It is the job of each Jew to teach the non-Jews the 7 laws of Noah. We have not done this nearly enough and now I see the results first hand.
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I blame the Jews (myself included of course) We have not educated the world enough about morality. Now it's come to this point where people will risk their lives for the sake of an animal. It's true moral decay and a world upside-down.
Oh Lubab? do you not believe we should take care of G-ds creatures, were we not are put on this earth to protect them. Did not G-d ask for an Ark to be built to save the animals?
How many times in the history of the world, people have risked their lives for another living creature, how can this be wrong?
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Having coffee in bed in the morning and spending my day with my animals, family and loved ones.
You put animals before your family and loved ones. :o
Yes, I find animals far better than humans most of the time. I love my family and friends, but they can get on my nerves. My animals never do.
Would I risk my life for my animals, yes I would.
This is truly a shame. :'(
Why so sad it does not effect you.
Yes. It does. It is the job of each Jew to teach the non-Jews the 7 laws of Noah. We have not done this nearly enough and now I see the results first hand.
Do you think I am Gentile?
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Having coffee in bed in the morning and spending my day with my animals, family and loved ones.
You put animals before your family and loved ones. :o
Yes, I find animals far better than humans most of the time. I love my family and friends, but they can get on my nerves. My animals never do.
Would I risk my life for my animals, yes I would.
This is truly a shame. :'(
Why so sad it does not effect you.
Yes. It does. It is the job of each Jew to teach the non-Jews the 7 laws of Noah. We have not done this nearly enough and now I see the results first hand.
Do you think I am Gentile?
Yes. I thought you were. But if you are Jewish it's the same problem.
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I love animals especially dogs. I believe that dogs would do more to save a person than some people would. A dog would more than happily risk his life to save his owner. One of my neighbors was in canada hiking on vacation. He owns three 2 year old male pitbulls and these dogs are seriously powerful. He has very muscular ones. He was attacked by a mountain lion on a trail a while he was with some family members and his three dogs. The dogs saved his life and devastated the mountain lion. He told me that all three pitbulls were working on the mountain lion at once. The dogs saved his life and he told me that he doesn't know of any humans that would of done that for him. I love dogs but I certainly think that a human risking his life for an animal is nuts.
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Having coffee in bed in the morning and spending my day with my animals, family and loved ones.
You put animals before your family and loved ones. :o
Yes, I find animals far better than humans most of the time. I love my family and friends, but they can get on my nerves. My animals never do.
Would I risk my life for my animals, yes I would.
This is truly a shame. :'(
Why so sad it does not effect you.
Yes. It does. It is the job of each Jew to teach the non-Jews the 7 laws of Noah. We have not done this nearly enough and now I see the results first hand.
Do you think I am Gentile?
Yes. I thought you were. But if you are Jewish it's the same problem.
I am Jewish, and as I said to you before all due respects, because you are a Rabbi, you are held in high regard with me, I respect your opinion and your advice. I absolve you of your responsibilities to me.
I am no more or no less than what G-d wishes of me.
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Having coffee in bed in the morning and spending my day with my animals, family and loved ones.
You put animals before your family and loved ones. :o
Yes, I find animals far better than humans most of the time. I love my family and friends, but they can get on my nerves. My animals never do.
Would I risk my life for my animals, yes I would.
This is truly a shame. :'(
Why so sad it does not effect you.
Yes. It does. It is the job of each Jew to teach the non-Jews the 7 laws of Noah. We have not done this nearly enough and now I see the results first hand.
Do you think I am Gentile?
Yes. I thought you were. But if you are Jewish it's the same problem.
I am Jewish, and as I said to you before all due respects, because you are a Rabbi, you are held in high regard with me, I respect your opinion and your advice. I absolve you of your responsibilities to me.
I am no more or no less than what G-d wishes of me.
I hope you are not offended. I really only speak out of a caring spirit and I do not judge you or any other Jew harshly. I'm just thinking about how I can be better.
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Having coffee in bed in the morning and spending my day with my animals, family and loved ones.
You put animals before your family and loved ones. :o
Yes, I find animals far better than humans most of the time. I love my family and friends, but they can get on my nerves. My animals never do.
Would I risk my life for my animals, yes I would.
This is truly a shame. :'(
Why so sad it does not effect you.
Yes. It does. It is the job of each Jew to teach the non-Jews the 7 laws of Noah. We have not done this nearly enough and now I see the results first hand.
Do you think I am Gentile?
Yes. I thought you were. But if you are Jewish it's the same problem.
I am Jewish, and as I said to you before all due respects, because you are a Rabbi, you are held in high regard with me, I respect your opinion and your advice. I absolve you of your responsibilities to me.
I am no more or no less than what G-d wishes of me.
I hope you are not offended. I really only speak out of a caring spirit and I do not judge you or any other Jew harshly. I'm just thinking about how I can be better.
Lubab I am not offended. Just a little saddened thats all, but I come to except that. I don't wish others to follow my path, its solely one I will travel down alone.
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Having coffee in bed in the morning and spending my day with my animals, family and loved ones.
You put animals before your family and loved ones. :o
Yes, I find animals far better than humans most of the time. I love my family and friends, but they can get on my nerves. My animals never do.
Would I risk my life for my animals, yes I would.
This is truly a shame. :'(
Why so sad it does not effect you.
Yes. It does. It is the job of each Jew to teach the non-Jews the 7 laws of Noah. We have not done this nearly enough and now I see the results first hand.
Do you think I am Gentile?
Yes. I thought you were. But if you are Jewish it's the same problem.
I am Jewish, and as I said to you before all due respects, because you are a Rabbi, you are held in high regard with me, I respect your opinion and your advice. I absolve you of your responsibilities to me.
I am no more or no less than what G-d wishes of me.
I hope you are not offended. I really only speak out of a caring spirit and I do not judge you or any other Jew harshly. I'm just thinking about how I can be better.
Lubab I am not offended. Just a little saddened thats all, but I come to except that. I don't wish others to follow my path, its solely one I will travel down alone.
Well you're not alone. You got us. We've all got our own unique path. It's all part of this great movie we call life.
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Let me tell you something that might cheer you up.
We all pray to the Holy of Holies in Jerusalem. We all know that. In there is the ark. This represents the Torah as the Tablets were in there.
But above the Ark is another vessel known as the Kapores...it was a plate on top of the ark. This is actually a holier spot than the ark.
It's "above" the Torah. It represents Teshuva (return, repentance). When we do teshuva G-d goes above what the Torah says and loves you anyway.
Then there's something even above that. That's the cherubim. (Someone on here is named Cherubim :)) Those are little babies. Little baby faces.
This is something even higher than Teshuva. It's a Jew. It's not anything that you need to do (like Teshuva) it's just the fact that you are a Jew and nothing can ever change that, and in some way, everything you do expresses that.
That's really the holiest spot in the whole Temple. G-d loves us like we love a little child. He doesn't really need to do anything. The child just is....and at that level the rules don't really apply at all.
G-d can forgive us no matter what with that sort of love that a parent has for a their little child.
That's where we really pray to....we pray to those cherubim three times a day....that's the holiest spot of all.
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Having coffee in bed in the morning and spending my day with my animals, family and loved ones.
You put animals before your family and loved ones. :o
Yes, I find animals far better than humans most of the time. I love my family and friends, but they can get on my nerves. My animals never do.
Would I risk my life for my animals, yes I would.
This is truly a shame. :'(
Why so sad it does not effect you.
Yes. It does. It is the job of each Jew to teach the non-Jews the 7 laws of Noah. We have not done this nearly enough and now I see the results first hand.
Do you think I am Gentile?
Yes. I thought you were. But if you are Jewish it's the same problem.
I am Jewish, and as I said to you before all due respects, because you are a Rabbi, you are held in high regard with me, I respect your opinion and your advice. I absolve you of your responsibilities to me.
I am no more or no less than what G-d wishes of me.
I hope you are not offended. I really only speak out of a caring spirit and I do not judge you or any other Jew harshly. I'm just thinking about how I can be better.
Lubab I am not offended. Just a little saddened thats all, but I come to except that. I don't wish others to follow my path, its solely one I will travel down alone.
Well you're not alone. You got us. We've all got our own unique path. It's all part of this great movie we call life.
I don't quite see how life is a movie, but since I am tried I just agree anyway.
Other things are quite debatable.
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Let me tell you something that might cheer you up.
We all pray to the Holy of Holies in Jerusalem. We all know that. In there is the ark. This represents the Torah as the Tablets were in there.
But above the Ark is another vessel known as the Paroches...it was a plate on top of the ark. This is actually a holier spot than the ark.
It's "above" the Torah. It represents Teshuva (return, repentance). When we to teshuva G-d goes above what the Torah says and loves you anyway.
Then there's something even above that. That's the cherubim. (Someone on here is named Cherubim :)) Those are little babies. Little baby faces.
This is something even higher than Teshuva. It's a Jew. It's not anything that you need to do (like Teshuva) it's just the fact that you are a Jew and nothing can ever change that, and in some way, everything you do expresses that.
That's really the holiest spot in the whole Temple. G-d loves us like we love a little child. He doesn't really need to do anything. The child just is....and at that level the rules don't really apply at all.
G-d can forgive us no matter what with that sort of love that a parent has for a their little child.
That's where we really pray to....we pray to those cherubim three times a day....that's the holiest spot of all.
lol least not go down the road about Cherubims. :-\
G-d loves us like we love a little child.
Yes this is something that is always dear to me.
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My idea of a "perfect" day would be to get up in the morning and do whatever Chaim would do during his day--- Because I am sure that every single day is a PERFECT DAY spent wisely by Chaim... The decisions he makes for his day and how he spends each minute of his day must be beyond reproach. To do what Chaim does with his day, yes, my friends, THAT is a PERFECT DAY for ANY Jew!
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When Hilary and Obama dies and Chaim becomes president of Israel.
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Skippy, how can you value an animal more than your family, friends and even yourself? Are you a vegan? If not.... no aim to offend, but I find it silly to give one's life for a pet, and eat meat. What's the difference between a pet and cattle?
And G-d commanded men to take care of animals, not to make them suffer and Noah was also commnded to keep each species in the Ark. But He does not command us to give our lives for one animal, nor to love it more than a human being. The Torah says "VeAhavtah lere'acha Kamocha", note it says "Re'acha" not "Behemtecha"
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For me the perfect day consits of waking up and turning on my TV:
Channel 1: CNN International
"Iran has been wiped off the face of the planet- no survivors. "
Channel 2 : BBC News
"Hizbollock's Leader Hassan Nasrallah was Raped to Death by a Pack of Wild Boars"
Channel 3 : Euronews
"PLO & Hamas fight each other to death until there are no Fakestinans left in the Midle East. Israel rightfully claims back her territories"
Channel 4: Baywatch
the one with that steamy secene between Pamela & Rich. I think its episode 106.
After that I open my front door - get in the bus and all black folks are seated at the back. An 86 year old fat black woman gives up her seat to let me sit so my 30 year old body frame doesn't get tired. After she moves her fat black butt I start looking out the window and I see Muslims being beaten up and Mosques destroyed. I see angry mobs crying out "death to Mohammed". I get off in the city centre and Pamlea Anderson is there signing autographs. Our eyes meet and its love at 1st site. She makes her way to me ( in slow motion ) and....(to be continued)
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Skippy, how can you value an animal more than your family, friends and even yourself? Are you a vegan? If not.... no aim to offend, but I find it silly to give one's life for a pet, and eat meat. What's the difference between a pet and cattle?
And G-d commanded men to take care of animals, not to make them suffer and Noah was also commnded to keep each species in the Ark. But He does not command us to give our lives for one animal, nor to love it more than a human being. The Torah says "VeAhavtah lere'acha Kamocha", note it says "Re'acha" not "Behemtecha"
Very simple the more I see of human nature, the more I love animals.
Honestly and loyalty are most highly regarded by me, few people have these traits.
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You can love animals and care for them but you can never relate the honesty and loyalty of an animal to that of a human and say that a human has less.
I would say that even if an animal was say 100% honest, even 10% of that honesty in a human is worth more. Animals have been designed to have loyal characters, some, whereas it takes effort of a human to achieve it.
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You can love animals and care for them but you can never relate the honesty and loyalty of an animal to that of a human and say that a human has less.
I would say that even if an animal was say 100% honest, even 10% of that honesty in a human is worth more. Animals have been designed to have loyal characters, some, whereas it takes effort of a human to achieve it.
Animals are not designed to be loyal, they are designed to follow a pecking order.
Take Ants and Bees for example, complex social struture of millions, working together. Name one country one people that even comes close.............you can't because they Don't exist.
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You can love animals and care for them but you can never relate the honesty and loyalty of an animal to that of a human and say that a human has less.
I would say that even if an animal was say 100% honest, even 10% of that honesty in a human is worth more. Animals have been designed to have loyal characters, some, whereas it takes effort of a human to achieve it.
Animals are not designed to be loyal, they are designed to follow a pecking order.
Take Ants and Bees for example, complex social struture of millions, working together. Name one country one people that even comes close.............you can't because they Don't exist.
They don't exist because they have to achieve it themselves whereas the animals have been designed physically and mentally to work together yes and when fed and cared for they become loyal. They have been designed in the context that their limits to free-will make them less rebellious and only follow natural inclinations and instincts that their bodies determine.
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You can love animals and care for them but you can never relate the honesty and loyalty of an animal to that of a human and say that a human has less.
I would say that even if an animal was say 100% honest, even 10% of that honesty in a human is worth more. Animals have been designed to have loyal characters, some, whereas it takes effort of a human to achieve it.
Animals are not designed to be loyal, they are designed to follow a pecking order.
Take Ants and Bees for example, complex social struture of millions, working together. Name one country one people that even comes close.............you can't because they Don't exist.
They don't exist because they have to achieve it themselves whereas the animals have been designed physically and mentally to work together yes and when fed and cared for they become loyal. They have been designed in the context that their limits to free-will make them less rebellious and only follow natural inclinations and instincts that their bodies determine.
It doesn't exist because humans are naturally aggressive.
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Human Beings are animals, lol. :::D
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Human Beings are animals, lol. :::D
Yes some more than others, thats why I only like a few :::D
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Are you a vegetarian, Skippy? If you eat meat, there is a problem.....Let's see... you love animals more than your human friends.... if you eat animals, then what's left for your friends whom you love less?????? And what about other prople who are not your relatives or friends?????? I wouldn't like to meet you, you might kill me!!!!!!! :laugh:
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1. To be able to see the forum visits record broken.
2. To learn that Fidel Castro has become worm food.
3. To do very well for the day's studies in college.
4. To be asked out by a nice young lady who looks like the one depicted in my sig.
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You want to be asked out by a cartoon? :::D
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You want to be asked out by a cartoon? :::D
No, by a real person who has certain attributes like the one depicted.
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Are you a vegetarian, Skippy? If you eat meat, there is a problem.....Let's see... you love animals more than your human friends.... if you eat animals, then what's left for your friends whom you love less?????? And what about other prople who are not your relatives or friends?????? I wouldn't like to meet you, you might kill me!!!!!!! :laugh:
LOL Raul you can rest happy knowing I will not eat you, :::D :::D.
I have a farm yes, I don't kill my animals to eat them, I go to the butcher. No I am not a vegetatian, yes I wear real fur and leather.
We are all apart of a circle of life, that is the natural order of things. Humans are both plant and meat eaters that is what we are designed for.
But you bring me a lamb and say raise until it is fat, then we kill it, I SAY NO WAY, I will fight you till the end.
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Skippy, how can you value an animal more than your family, friends and even yourself? Are you a vegan? If not.... no aim to offend, but I find it silly to give one's life for a pet, and eat meat. What's the difference between a pet and cattle?
And G-d commanded men to take care of animals, not to make them suffer and Noah was also commnded to keep each species in the Ark. But He does not command us to give our lives for one animal, nor to love it more than a human being. The Torah says "VeAhavtah lere'acha Kamocha", note it says "Re'acha" not "Behemtecha"
Very simple the more I see of human nature, the more I love animals.
Honestly and loyalty are most highly regarded by me, few people have these traits.
Yes. But animals do this out of instinct, not out of their free will.
Unlike humans. We have more potential for bad, but we have more potential for doing good too. Our good is a real good because we do it out of free choice. It is a higher level of soul in that regard, and the higher they are the harder they can fall. But none of this is any reason why you should risk your life (a human soul) for an animal (an instinctive, animal soul who is just there to serve the human souls).
The animals were created to help humans. If we value them more than us, we are perverting the order of creation.
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Dogs definitely have souls, cute, tail wagging, smiling, souls, and I'm sure the good ones get into heaven. :)
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Dogs definitely have souls, cute, tail wagging, smiling, souls, and I'm sure the good ones get into heaven. :)
All dogs go to heaven they are all G-ds creatures. :)
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The animals were created to help humans. If we value them more than us, we are perverting the order of creation.
We are created to help the animals.
And no I don't ever believe I am a pervert for protecting them, helping them, and saving them.
They are nurtured, allowed to have a good quality of life in my hands, I can't see how G-d would condemn me for that.
I ask no other to do as I do.
I no more believe animals are evil than a new born child.
If this means G-d will reject me from entering heaven, then so be it. I could not bear the thought of loving G-ds creations as being wrong.
Or standing back and allowing the abuse and evil of man to go on about me, and forcing me to do nothing.
I prefer to be dead than live a enslaved soulless life.
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The animals were created to help humans. If we value them more than us, we are perverting the order of creation.
We are created to help the animals.
And no I don't ever believe I am a pervert for protecting them, helping them, and saving them.
They are nurtured, allowed to have a good quality of life in my hands, I can't see how G-d would condemn me for that.
I ask no other to do as I do.
I no more believe animals are evil than a new born child.
If this means G-d will reject me from entering heaven, then so be it. I could not bear the thought of loving G-ds creations as being wrong.
Or standing back and allowing the abuse and evil of man to go on about me, and forcing me to do nothing.
I prefer to be dead than live a enslaved soulless life.
Not at all Skippy. I think you completely misunderstood. Not everything is a package deal in this world.
Just because I said animals have a more limited level of free choice and therfore a lower level of soul, does NOT mean they are evil.
Animals in many ways are better than humans and we have an obligation never to harm them needlessly.
It is not a sin to care for animals, it's a wonderful thing. But when you value them more than human life, then things have simply gone out of proportion.
However, man was NOT created to serve the animals. If the animals were leading us the human race would all be dead pretty fast.
It's the other way around. Animals can do things we can't like plow a field all day...for instance. Each creation has it's own unique purpose. When each one fulfills it's mission, then that's pure good.
P.S. Perverted doesn't mean a "pervert" in the sexual sense of the word. Look it up. It just means things have gone out of whack.
G-d created man last, and he went UP in levels as he created stuff.
There is a certain order to this creation, a certain reason why G-d created some things before others, and we need to be aware of this order if the world is to function properly.
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The animals were created to help humans. If we value them more than us, we are perverting the order of creation.
We are created to help the animals.
And no I don't ever believe I am a pervert for protecting them, helping them, and saving them.
They are nurtured, allowed to have a good quality of life in my hands, I can't see how G-d would condemn me for that.
I ask no other to do as I do.
I no more believe animals are evil than a new born child.
If this means G-d will reject me from entering heaven, then so be it. I could not bear the thought of loving G-ds creations as being wrong.
Or standing back and allowing the abuse and evil of man to go on about me, and forcing me to do nothing.
I prefer to be dead than live a enslaved soulless life.
Not at all Skippy. I think you completely misunderstood. Not everything is a package deal in this world.
Just because I said animals have a more limited level of free choice and therfore a lower level of soul, does NOT mean they are evil.
Animals in many ways are better than humans and we have an obligation never to harm them needlessly.
It is not a sin to care for animals, it's a wonderful thing. But when you value them more than human life, then things have simply gone out of proportion.
However, man was NOT created to serve the animals. It's the other way around. Animals can do things we can't like plow a field all day...for instance. Each creation has it's own unique purpose. When each one fulfills it's mission, then that's pure good.
Serve?? I never said serve.
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The animals were created to help humans. If we value them more than us, we are perverting the order of creation.
We are created to help the animals.
And no I don't ever believe I am a pervert for protecting them, helping them, and saving them.
They are nurtured, allowed to have a good quality of life in my hands, I can't see how G-d would condemn me for that.
I ask no other to do as I do.
I no more believe animals are evil than a new born child.
If this means G-d will reject me from entering heaven, then so be it. I could not bear the thought of loving G-ds creations as being wrong.
Or standing back and allowing the abuse and evil of man to go on about me, and forcing me to do nothing.
I prefer to be dead than live a enslaved soulless life.
Not at all Skippy. I think you completely misunderstood. Not everything is a package deal in this world.
Just because I said animals have a more limited level of free choice and therfore a lower level of soul, does NOT mean they are evil.
Animals in many ways are better than humans and we have an obligation never to harm them needlessly.
It is not a sin to care for animals, it's a wonderful thing. But when you value them more than human life, then things have simply gone out of proportion.
However, man was NOT created to serve the animals. It's the other way around. Animals can do things we can't like plow a field all day...for instance. Each creation has it's own unique purpose. When each one fulfills it's mission, then that's pure good.
Serve?? I never said serve.
You said "help"=serve, no?
Helping the animals is NOT our purpose in creation. We have a lot more to do than that. They are here to help us.
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You said "help"=serve, no?
Helping the animals is NOT our purpose in creation. We have a lot more to do than that. They are here to help us.
Not there i come from mate, help and serve are two different things.
Help
Definition: To furnish with strength or means for the successful performance of any action or the attainment of any object; to aid; to assist; as, to help a man in his work; to help one to remember; the following infinitive is commonly used without to; as, "Help me scale yon balcony."
Serve
Definition: The performance of work or duties for a superior or as a servant
I never said it was our sole duty, but is apart of it, everyone has a role, you can't have all leaders and no workers, its called delegation.
And mine is with the protection and helping of G-ds creatures.
Your role is different to mine, as a rabbi you are people focused.
I don't disrespect you for your choice in life.
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Human Beings are animals, lol. :::D
Yes some more than others, thats why I only like a few :::D
Good to hear ;D O0
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Human Beings are animals, lol. :::D
Yes some more than others, thats why I only like a few :::D
Good to hear ;D O0
Don't worry you are one of them ^-^ ;)
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You said "help"=serve, no?
Helping the animals is NOT our purpose in creation. We have a lot more to do than that. They are here to help us.
Not there i come from mate, help and serve are two different things.
Help
Definition: To furnish with strength or means for the successful performance of any action or the attainment of any object; to aid; to assist; as, to help a man in his work; to help one to remember; the following infinitive is commonly used without to; as, "Help me scale yon balcony."
Serve
Definition: The performance of work or duties for a superior or as a servant
I never said it was our sole duty, but is apart of it, everyone has a role, you can't have all leaders and no workers, its called delegation.
And mine is with the protection and helping of G-ds creatures.
Your role is different to mine, as a rabbi you are people focused.
I don't disrespect you for your choice in life.
Wrong. I am a Jew first and foremost. My goal is to elevate ALL of creation including the animals to their purpose for which they were created. That is my job description.
It's good you take care of them, just remember who is supposed to be leading who.
Animals generally do okay without human assistance. Usually it's when humans get involved we mess it up.
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You said "help"=serve, no?
Helping the animals is NOT our purpose in creation. We have a lot more to do than that. They are here to help us.
Not there i come from mate, help and serve are two different things.
Help
Definition: To furnish with strength or means for the successful performance of any action or the attainment of any object; to aid; to assist; as, to help a man in his work; to help one to remember; the following infinitive is commonly used without to; as, "Help me scale yon balcony."
Serve
Definition: The performance of work or duties for a superior or as a servant
I never said it was our sole duty, but is apart of it, everyone has a role, you can't have all leaders and no workers, its called delegation.
And mine is with the protection and helping of G-ds creatures.
Your role is different to mine, as a rabbi you are people focused.
I don't disrespect you for your choice in life.
Wrong. I am a Jew first and foremost. My goal is to elevate ALL of creation including the animals to their purpose for which they were created. That is my job description.
It's good you take care of them, just remember who is supposed to be leading who.
Animals generally do okay without human assistance. Usually it's when humans get involved we mess it up.
I never forget who is my leader
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The Perfect Day would be no to wake up one day and there are no muSSlims and no iSSlam anymore O0 O0 O0
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I'm bored so I looked it up.
Here's ALL the definitions for "help".
help /hɛlp/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[help] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–verb (used with object)
1. to give or provide what is necessary to accomplish a task or satisfy a need; contribute strength or means to; render assistance to; cooperate effectively with; aid; assist: He planned to help me with my work. Let me help you with those packages.
2. to save; rescue; succor: Help me, I'm falling!
3. to make easier or less difficult; contribute to; facilitate: The exercise of restraint is certain to help the achievement of peace.
4. to be useful or profitable to: Her quick mind helped her career.
5. to refrain from; avoid (usually prec. by can or cannot): He can't help doing it.
6. to relieve or break the uniformity of: Small patches of bright color can help an otherwise dull interior.
7. to relieve (someone) in need, sickness, pain, or distress.
8. to remedy, stop, or prevent: Nothing will help my headache.
9. to serve food to at table (usually fol. by to): Help her to salad.
10. to serve or wait on (a customer), as in a store.
–verb (used without object)
11. to give aid; be of service or advantage: Every little bit helps.
–noun
12. the act of helping; aid or assistance; relief or succor.
13. a person or thing that helps: She certainly is a help in an emergency.
14. a hired helper; employee.
15. a body of such helpers.
16. a domestic servant or a farm laborer.
17. means of remedying, stopping, or preventing: The thing is done, and there is no help for it now.
And here's ALL the definitions for serve:
serve /sɜrv/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[surv] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation verb, served, serv·ing, noun
–verb (used without object)
1. to act as a servant.
2. to wait on table, as a waiter.
3. to offer or have a meal or refreshments available, as for patrons or guests: Come early, we're serving at six.
4. to offer or distribute a portion or portions of food or a beverage, as a host or hostess: It was her turn to serve at the faculty tea.
5. to render assistance; be of use; help.
6. to go through a term of service; do duty as a soldier, sailor, senator, juror, etc.
7. to have definite use: This cup will serve as a sugar bowl.
8. to answer the purpose: That will serve to explain my actions.
9. (in tennis, badminton, handball, etc.) to put the ball or shuttlecock in play with a stroke, swing, or hit.
10. to be favorable, suitable, or convenient, as weather or time.
11. Ecclesiastical. to act as a server.
–verb (used with object)
12. to be in the service of; work for.
13. to be useful or of service to; help.
14. to go through (a term of service, imprisonment, etc.).
15. to render active service to (a sovereign, commander, etc.).
16. to render obedience or homage to (God, a sovereign, etc.).
17. to perform the duties of (a position, an office, etc.): to serve his mayoralty.
18. to answer the requirements of; suffice: This will serve our needs for the moment.
19. to contribute to; promote: to serve a cause.
20. to wait upon at table; act as a waiter or waitress to.
21. to carry and distribute (portions of food or drink) to a patron or a specific table, as a waiter or waitress.
22. to act as a host or hostess in offering (a person) a portion of food or drink: May I serve you with some tea and cake?
23. to act as a host or hostess in offering or distributing (a portion or portions of food or drink) to another: They served tea and cake to their guests.
24. to provide with a regular or continuous supply of something.
25. (in tennis, badminton, handball, etc.) to put (the ball or shuttlecock) in play.
26. to treat in a specified manner: That served him ill.
27. Law.
a. to make legal delivery of (a process or writ).
b. to present (a person) with a writ.
28. to gratify (desire, wants, needs, etc.).
29. (of a male animal) to mate with; service.
30. to operate or keep in action (a gun, artillery, etc.).
31. Nautical. to wrap (a rope) tightly with small stuff, keeping the turns as close together as possible.
–noun
32. the act, manner, or right of serving, as in tennis.
—Idiom
33. serve one right, to treat one as one deserves, esp. to punish justly: It will serve you right if she never speaks to you again.
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You said "help"=serve, no?
Helping the animals is NOT our purpose in creation. We have a lot more to do than that. They are here to help us.
Not there i come from mate, help and serve are two different things.
Help
Definition: To furnish with strength or means for the successful performance of any action or the attainment of any object; to aid; to assist; as, to help a man in his work; to help one to remember; the following infinitive is commonly used without to; as, "Help me scale yon balcony."
Serve
Definition: The performance of work or duties for a superior or as a servant
I never said it was our sole duty, but is apart of it, everyone has a role, you can't have all leaders and no workers, its called delegation.
And mine is with the protection and helping of G-ds creatures.
Your role is different to mine, as a rabbi you are people focused.
I don't disrespect you for your choice in life.
Wrong. I am a Jew first and foremost. My goal is to elevate ALL of creation including the animals to their purpose for which they were created. That is my job description.
It's good you take care of them, just remember who is supposed to be leading who.
Animals generally do okay without human assistance. Usually it's when humans get involved we mess it up.
I never forget who is my leader
And who is that?
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You said "help"=serve, no?
Helping the animals is NOT our purpose in creation. We have a lot more to do than that. They are here to help us.
Not there i come from mate, help and serve are two different things.
Help
Definition: To furnish with strength or means for the successful performance of any action or the attainment of any object; to aid; to assist; as, to help a man in his work; to help one to remember; the following infinitive is commonly used without to; as, "Help me scale yon balcony."
Serve
Definition: The performance of work or duties for a superior or as a servant
I never said it was our sole duty, but is apart of it, everyone has a role, you can't have all leaders and no workers, its called delegation.
And mine is with the protection and helping of G-ds creatures.
Your role is different to mine, as a rabbi you are people focused.
I don't disrespect you for your choice in life.
Wrong. I am a Jew first and foremost. My goal is to elevate ALL of creation including the animals to their purpose for which they were created. That is my job description.
It's good you take care of them, just remember who is supposed to be leading who.
Animals generally do okay without human assistance. Usually it's when humans get involved we mess it up.
I never forget who is my leader
And who is that?
Lubab ??? I am shocked at you, of course there is only one leader, that is G-d.
And I know what you are going to write 8;)
Do you wish this circle to start again............. ::)
Dear dear Lubab I wish to say so much to you, but this is not the medium to do so.
Why are you making this so hard for me?
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You said "help"=serve, no?
Helping the animals is NOT our purpose in creation. We have a lot more to do than that. They are here to help us.
Not there i come from mate, help and serve are two different things.
Help
Definition: To furnish with strength or means for the successful performance of any action or the attainment of any object; to aid; to assist; as, to help a man in his work; to help one to remember; the following infinitive is commonly used without to; as, "Help me scale yon balcony."
Serve
Definition: The performance of work or duties for a superior or as a servant
I never said it was our sole duty, but is apart of it, everyone has a role, you can't have all leaders and no workers, its called delegation.
And mine is with the protection and helping of G-ds creatures.
Your role is different to mine, as a rabbi you are people focused.
I don't disrespect you for your choice in life.
Wrong. I am a Jew first and foremost. My goal is to elevate ALL of creation including the animals to their purpose for which they were created. That is my job description.
It's good you take care of them, just remember who is supposed to be leading who.
Animals generally do okay without human assistance. Usually it's when humans get involved we mess it up.
I never forget who is my leader
And who is that?
Lubab ??? I am shocked at you, of course there is only one leader, that is G-d.
And I know what you are going to write 8;)
Do you wish this circle to start again............. ::)
Dear dear Lubab I wish to say so much to you, but this is not the medium to do so.
Why are you making this so hard for me?
I'm sorry I doubted you. I was afraid you were going to say it was your dog or something. You know dog, G-d, people get it confused. :::D
I really don't mean to be difficult. I'll shut up now if you like.
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You said "help"=serve, no?
Helping the animals is NOT our purpose in creation. We have a lot more to do than that. They are here to help us.
Not there i come from mate, help and serve are two different things.
Help
Definition: To furnish with strength or means for the successful performance of any action or the attainment of any object; to aid; to assist; as, to help a man in his work; to help one to remember; the following infinitive is commonly used without to; as, "Help me scale yon balcony."
Serve
Definition: The performance of work or duties for a superior or as a servant
I never said it was our sole duty, but is apart of it, everyone has a role, you can't have all leaders and no workers, its called delegation.
And mine is with the protection and helping of G-ds creatures.
Your role is different to mine, as a rabbi you are people focused.
I don't disrespect you for your choice in life.
Wrong. I am a Jew first and foremost. My goal is to elevate ALL of creation including the animals to their purpose for which they were created. That is my job description.
It's good you take care of them, just remember who is supposed to be leading who.
Animals generally do okay without human assistance. Usually it's when humans get involved we mess it up.
I never forget who is my leader
And who is that?
Lubab ??? I am shocked at you, of course there is only one leader, that is G-d.
And I know what you are going to write 8;)
Do you wish this circle to start again............. ::)
Dear dear Lubab I wish to say so much to you, but this is not the medium to do so.
Why are you making this so hard for me?
I'm sorry I doubted you. I was afraid you were going to say it was your dog or something. You know dog, G-d, people get it confused. :::D
I really don't mean to be difficult. I'll shut up now if you like.
No that is cat and G-d people get confused :::D :::D
Its because of the Egyptians you know, 3000 years ago Basat was their G-d, and I think cats have never forgot this.
Tell a Rabbi to shut up...........Whooooaaaa the gates of hell have just opened up, thanks Lubab :-\
:::D :::D
I am not a completely lost you know ;)