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Israel => Save Israel => Topic started by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on February 11, 2008, 01:03:27 AM
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Two residents of Petah Tikva created a new facebook group posting public information about how to make rockets for launching at Gaza from Sderot! Jpost reports it
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1202657415879&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
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I wish them the best, but these citizens aren't likely to get anything but a twenty-year sentence from the Israeli Supreme Court.
When an Arab kills a Jew--the government grants him immunity from prosecution so long as he promises "not to do it anymore"
When a Jew even pretends to defend himself--it's lights out
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It sounds like a good idea at first, but if people decide to make missiles to launch into Gaza, they will probably be arrested before they're even able to do anything. If they do get to launching any missiles, they will be found and arrested immediately. Even if they were able to evade the police and military, the people making the missiles wouldn't be experts, they would probably need to test the weapons first to make sure that they wouldn't cause harm to Sderot residents. The Gazan arabs may not be intelligent, but the Kassam makers have been building and "perfecting" how to make the projectiles for years. Anything that a Sderot resident is likely to whip up quickly will be wildly inaccurate and could potentially pose more harm to fellow residents than anyone in Gaza.
Better to protest like Israelis have been doing recently and ratchet up the pressure on the government to take action, as futile as that sounds.
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Hmmm... you just gave me an idea... Sderot... rockets... arrest... gee whiz, do you think Olmert could arrest the Arabs who are firing the rocktets?
Nah... ::)
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It sounds like a good idea at first, but if people decide to make missiles to launch into Gaza, they will probably be arrested before they're even able to do anything. If they do get to launching any missiles, they will be found and arrested immediately. Even if they were able to evade the police and military, the people making the missiles wouldn't be experts, they would probably need to test the weapons first to make sure that they wouldn't cause harm to Sderot residents. The Gazan arabs may not be intelligent, but the Kassam makers have been building and "perfecting" how to make the projectiles for years. Anything that a Sderot resident is likely to whip up quickly will be wildly inaccurate and could potentially pose more harm to fellow residents than anyone in Gaza.
Better to protest like Israelis have been doing recently and ratchet up the pressure on the government to take action, as futile as that sounds.
I completely disagree... respectfully.
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It sounds like a good idea at first, but if people decide to make missiles to launch into Gaza, they will probably be arrested before they're even able to do anything. If they do get to launching any missiles, they will be found and arrested immediately. Even if they were able to evade the police and military, the people making the missiles wouldn't be experts, they would probably need to test the weapons first to make sure that they wouldn't cause harm to Sderot residents. The Gazan arabs may not be intelligent, but the Kassam makers have been building and "perfecting" how to make the projectiles for years. Anything that a Sderot resident is likely to whip up quickly will be wildly inaccurate and could potentially pose more harm to fellow residents than anyone in Gaza.
Better to protest like Israelis have been doing recently and ratchet up the pressure on the government to take action, as futile as that sounds.
I completely disagree... respectfully.
So you think that the firing of homemade, experimental and inaccurate rockets are a good idea? Please explain. Also please explain why even if the rocket firings were successful, (which would include the ability to make the rockets and evade the police and military) why this would influence Gazans in any beneficial way?
Would the Gazans cease to fire rockets at Sderot after rockets were fired at them? Why haven't they ceased to fire rockets after bombardment by Israeli aircraft? Why would the fact that crude missiles are being launched against them be any different? And why would it be justified for good Sderot residents to face serious jail time for attempting this?
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I agree with them on principle.
Israel today is like the time of the British Mandate. Arabs armed to the teeth and killing Jew wholesale while the 'authorities' look the other way and whistle! In those times Jews bought/made their own weapons to fight back with. The situation for those in Sderot, 2007 is NO DIFFERENT to the situation for all Jews in the Land of Israel, 1947 in that regard.
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I was running on the assumption that they would not be put in jail for it. They are getting fired on daily. How could they not be allowed to fire back?
"Why haven't they ceased to fire rockets after bombardment by Israeli aircraft? "
The IDF could have taken out kassam fire a long time ago if they were allowed to try. They are not being sent on any missions of significance to take out kassam cells and seriously respond to stop the kassam launching.
Homemade rockets may not stop kassams, but I think it sends a big statement to the world and to Hamas when Jews show they are willing to fight back. It will also force Barak to take action because it will be a big embarrassment for him. Plus if a Gazan or two gets hit or if a village or two is terrorized, it appeals to the sense of justice. A constantly bombarded Gazan town could potentially be so terrorized that they would take action or protest against kassam launching to get it all to stop. Who knows. I think there is much to be gained and it's worth a try.
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Yes! Do it. This is in the Kahane tradition of taking self-defense into your own hands. No need to assume that the rockets will be amateurish or ineffective. Plenty of smart people are eager to help build good rockets. See the talkback in the Jerusalem Post article. When Olmert tries to intervene, it will force the issue to a head.
The scandal of a country that continues to send free electricity to another country that blows the legs off its young people... This is unbearable!
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Doing it will have a greater effect on the knesset kapos than the arabs. Either way it achieves SOMETHING. The knesset kapos have done NOTHING.
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Well, let's look at this situation realistically.
I definitely will support whoever wants to fire rockets at Arabs, but these heroic defenders will face likely arrests (if ineffective) and potentially an all-out IDF offensive (if successful). Do we really want Israeli warplanes bombing Jewish targets?
Either way, the problem is not really the kapo Israeli government, which refuses to take action against the Gazan mass-murderers, but the majority of the Israeli public that agrees with this because they don't want to take actions that will further "disrupt peace". When we win over the hearts and minds of the vast majority of the Israeli public, the Bolshevist kapos will defend Israel, because they know that failing to do so will mean an overthrow.