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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Dr. Dan on February 11, 2008, 11:45:02 PM
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You are cursing and criticizing him (Rabbi Yosef) at the same time. Your animosity is very understandable. However an angry rebuke, an angry criticism, and an angry disagreement without name calling and curses is the proper way to address this man. we should be outraged with what he is doing and we shoudl show that outrage...but without the cursing...got it?
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You are cursing and criticizing him (Rabbi Yosef) at the same time. Your animosity is very understandable. However an angry rebuke, an angry criticism, and an angry disagreement without name calling and curses is the proper way to address this man. we should be outraged with what he is doing and we shoudl show that outrage...but without the cursing...got it?
But I wasn't the one who personally attacked another member of this forum. I was the one who was personally attacked and I believe that is against forum rules. Oh well, real right wingers always have it harder.
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I was the one who was personally attacked and I believe that is against forum rules.
You attack people all the time. You called Scriabin 'a snake'.
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He allways uses vile language, then when he is mildly attacked back, he plays the innocent card, as if he was attaced with saying something evil and stupid beforehand.
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Tzvi I might use vile language but my message is full of rich substance. You on the other hand peddle the shas agenda on a forum that isn't receptive to it. Your message is empty as you support that evil rabbi like a spineless weasel. I speak a message of getting chaim into Israel and you support the rabbi who threw him out. Nuff said.
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Besides tzvi, you had no problem attacking the entire Chabad movement. What a hypocrite. Ovadia Yosef isn't worthy of cutting Rabbi Schneersons fingernails. Ovadia Yosef is a misbehaved child compared to a saint like the Lubavitcher Rebbe.
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Besides tzvi, you had no problem attacking the entire Chabad movement. What a hypocrite. Ovadia Yosef isn't worthy of cutting Rabbi Schneersons fingernails. Ovadia Yosef is a misbehaved child compared to a saint like the Lubavitcher Rebbe.
I didn't attack their whole movement, I was only responding to the messianists and that aspect (and those in it), and the question of putting ppl into excommunication, which was brought up by a Lubavitch person. I was only saying if anything the messianists would be first, and whatever lets not divert attention on that right now.
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Besides tzvi, you had no problem attacking the entire Chabad movement. What a hypocrite. Ovadia Yosef isn't worthy of cutting Rabbi Schneersons fingernails. Ovadia Yosef is a misbehaved child compared to a saint like the Lubavitcher Rebbe.
I didn't attack their whole movement, I was only responding to the messianists and that aspect (and those in it), and the question of putting ppl into excommunication, which was brought up by a Lubavitch person. I was only saying if anything the messianists would be first, and whatever lets not divert attention on that right now.
Why would they be first to be excommunicated? How about lets excommunicate anyone who doesn't support shas? Lets not let this go without it being questioned.
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Oy vey, I am not responding to this thread anymore unless a righteous person or group is insulted.
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You are cursing and criticizing him (Rabbi Yosef) at the same time. Your animosity is very understandable. However an angry rebuke, an angry criticism, and an angry disagreement without name calling and curses is the proper way to address this man. we should be outraged with what he is doing and we shoudl show that outrage...but without the cursing...got it?
But I wasn't the one who personally attacked another member of this forum. I was the one who was personally attacked and I believe that is against forum rules. Oh well, real right wingers always have it harder.
You cursed a rabbi to someone who defends him with his life. Of course he will curse you in that rabbi's honor. What you did was no better than what he did.
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I would rather someone curse me then insult a Giant in torah. It is a Jews obligation to stand up and support a Talmid Hachams honor. You can say what you believe, but refrain from calling R'Ovadia Yosef names. Just dont call him "Drek" etc. Enough is enough, call his policies bad, his view, but refrain from calling him anything derogatory.
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http://dailyhalacha.com/WeeklyParasha.asp
Im listining to this right now, and what the Rav is saying has a lot to do with what has been going on here, talking about the Hachamim, (expecially from around 30 minutes, but from the beginning leading into is better).
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We get your point. The problem is Mr. Yosef is not a "Gadol." Maybe his nose is a "gadol" from all the lying this man has done. Him and his party are personally responsible for the blowing off the legs of the two sderot brothers. These two jewish boys got their legs blown off because the skunk allows Olmert to roam free.
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Look, if you promote Mr. Yosef than I will have to counter with the truth. Stop promoting him and I won't have to explain his faults.
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Look, if you promote Mr. Yosef than I will have to counter with the truth. Stop promoting him and I won't have to explain his faults.
??? ::) , I wasn't promoting him, I only responded to your slander and hate agains't him. Listin to that lecture, maybe you will see your fault in what you are doing.
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We get your point. The problem is Mr. Yosef is not a "Gadol." Maybe his nose is a "gadol" from all the lying this man has done. Him and his party are personally responsible for the blowing off the legs of the two sderot brothers. These two jewish boys got their legs blown off because the skunk allows Olmert to roam free.
And you would be the perfect candidate to determine who is a gadol and who is not? Do you even keep the simple laws from the Torah - Shabb-t, Kashrut, NOT TO SPEAK LASHON HARA, or are you angry at G-d also?
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Ok its great that you think I am at fault. But that is just your opinion. I can name many people here who agree with me so I guess we are all at fault. If Mr. Yosef gets those two boys their legs back, I will stop attacking him. Why shouldn't I attack someone who causes two jewish children's lives to be ruined forever?
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We get your point. The problem is Mr. Yosef is not a "Gadol." Maybe his nose is a "gadol" from all the lying this man has done. Him and his party are personally responsible for the blowing off the legs of the two sderot brothers. These two jewish boys got their legs blown off because the skunk allows Olmert to roam free.
And you would be the perfect candidate to determine who is a gadol and who is not? Do you even keep the simple laws from the Torah - Shabbat, Kashrut, NOT TO SPEAK LASHON HARA, or are you angry at G-d also?
Tzvi, instead of supporting Shas, why don't you support JTF and send in a donation to Chaim through paypal?
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We get your point. The problem is Mr. Yosef is not a "Gadol." Maybe his nose is a "gadol" from all the lying this man has done. Him and his party are personally responsible for the blowing off the legs of the two sderot brothers. These two jewish boys got their legs blown off because the skunk allows Olmert to roam free.
And you would be the perfect candidate to determine who is a gadol and who is not? Do you even keep the simple laws from the Torah - Shabbat, Kashrut, NOT TO SPEAK LASHON HARA, or are you angry at G-d also?
Tzvi, instead of supporting Shas, why don't you support JTF and send in a donation to Chaim through paypal?
Who says he doesn't?
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We get your point. The problem is Mr. Yosef is not a "Gadol." Maybe his nose is a "gadol" from all the lying this man has done. Him and his party are personally responsible for the blowing off the legs of the two sderot brothers. These two jewish boys got their legs blown off because the skunk allows Olmert to roam free.
And you would be the perfect candidate to determine who is a gadol and who is not? Do you even keep the simple laws from the Torah - Shabbat, Kashrut, NOT TO SPEAK LASHON HARA, or are you angry at G-d also?
Tzvi, instead of supporting Shas, why don't you support JTF and send in a donation to Chaim through paypal?
I dont support Shas, and the post above that one is again non-sense (stop twisting things and again blaming the Rabbi for the things the savages have done).
About sending in $, I dont work now, so I dont have too much $ to give. But when I do have, I will admit that I dont give to JTF, not because its not good, but becuase I feel that the best spiritual investment I can do is to give to www.Torahanytime.com - which is involved with lectures and is responsible for getting thousands of Jews religious and to know the Torah, and learn Torah (which is = to all the Mitzvot, every second of learning)- simply speaking- its the best investment in history to do.
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We get your point. The problem is Mr. Yosef is not a "Gadol." Maybe his nose is a "gadol" from all the lying this man has done. Him and his party are personally responsible for the blowing off the legs of the two sderot brothers. These two jewish boys got their legs blown off because the skunk allows Olmert to roam free.
And you would be the perfect candidate to determine who is a gadol and who is not? Do you even keep the simple laws from the Torah - Shabbat, Kashrut, NOT TO SPEAK LASHON HARA, or are you angry at G-d also?
Tzvi, instead of supporting Shas, why don't you support JTF and send in a donation to Chaim through paypal?
Who says he doesn't?
Well I see him attacking Lubavitch and I never see him have anything positive to say about this movement. He is just here to promote shas. If he has made a contribution then I am wrong and I stand corrected but I doubt he has. I am not even trying to say that he needs to make a donation because its possible their are people here who want to donate but are short on funds. I was just trying to make a point and tell him to support this movement and Chaim as much as he supports shas.
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We get your point. The problem is Mr. Yosef is not a "Gadol." Maybe his nose is a "gadol" from all the lying this man has done. Him and his party are personally responsible for the blowing off the legs of the two sderot brothers. These two jewish boys got their legs blown off because the skunk allows Olmert to roam free.
And you would be the perfect candidate to determine who is a gadol and who is not? Do you even keep the simple laws from the Torah - Shabbat, Kashrut, NOT TO SPEAK LASHON HARA, or are you angry at G-d also?
Tzvi, instead of supporting Shas, why don't you support JTF and send in a donation to Chaim through paypal?
Who says he doesn't?
Well I see him attacking Lubavitch and I never see him have anything positive to say about this movement. He is just here to promote shas. If he has made a contribution then I am wrong and I stand corrected but I doubt he has. I am not even trying to say that he needs to make a donation because its possible their are people here who want to donate but are short on funds. I was just trying to make a point and tell him to support this movement and Chaim as much as he supports shas.
Again where did I say I support Shas and am agains't JTF? I was only telling you to stop with your flaggrant insults, against the Rabbi.
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We get your point. The problem is Mr. Yosef is not a "Gadol." Maybe his nose is a "gadol" from all the lying this man has done. Him and his party are personally responsible for the blowing off the legs of the two sderot brothers. These two jewish boys got their legs blown off because the skunk allows Olmert to roam free.
And you would be the perfect candidate to determine who is a gadol and who is not? Do you even keep the simple laws from the Torah - Shabbat, Kashrut, NOT TO SPEAK LASHON HARA, or are you angry at G-d also?
Tzvi, instead of supporting Shas, why don't you support JTF and send in a donation to Chaim through paypal?
I dont support Shas, and the post above that one is again non-sense (stop twisting things and again blaming the Rabbi for the things the savages have done).
About sending in $, I dont work now, so I dont have too much $ to give. But when I do have, I will admit that I dont give to JTF, not because its not good, but becuase I feel that the best spiritual investment I can do is to give to www.Torahanytime.com - which is involved with lectures and is responsible for getting thousands of Jews religious and to know the Torah, and learn Torah (which is = to all the Mitzvot, every second of learning)- simply speaking- its the best investment in history to do.
Ok ODkahaneChai, I was right. He doesn't support this movement at all and comes here to start fights with people he knows detest shas and its leader. I think he needs to be explained that unless Chaim takes over Israel soon, nobody will be learning torah because they might not be alive.(G-d forbid) Their is nothing that merits support more than JTF!!!
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We get your point. The problem is Mr. Yosef is not a "Gadol." Maybe his nose is a "gadol" from all the lying this man has done. Him and his party are personally responsible for the blowing off the legs of the two sderot brothers. These two jewish boys got their legs blown off because the skunk allows Olmert to roam free.
And you would be the perfect candidate to determine who is a gadol and who is not? Do you even keep the simple laws from the Torah - Shabbat, Kashrut, NOT TO SPEAK LASHON HARA, or are you angry at G-d also?
Tzvi, instead of supporting Shas, why don't you support JTF and send in a donation to Chaim through paypal?
Who says he doesn't?
Well I see him attacking Lubavitch and I never see him have anything positive to say about this movement. He is just here to promote shas. If he has made a contribution then I am wrong and I stand corrected but I doubt he has. I am not even trying to say that he needs to make a donation because its possible their are people here who want to donate but are short on funds. I was just trying to make a point and tell him to support this movement and Chaim as much as he supports shas.
Again where did I say I support Shas and am agains't JTF? I was only telling you to stop with your flaggrant insults, against the Rabbi.
Well you certainly hold shas in higher esteem than JTF even though shas steals more money in one hour than most of us have made in our whole lives.
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We get your point. The problem is Mr. Yosef is not a "Gadol." Maybe his nose is a "gadol" from all the lying this man has done. Him and his party are personally responsible for the blowing off the legs of the two sderot brothers. These two jewish boys got their legs blown off because the skunk allows Olmert to roam free.
And you would be the perfect candidate to determine who is a gadol and who is not? Do you even keep the simple laws from the Torah - Shabbat, Kashrut, NOT TO SPEAK LASHON HARA, or are you angry at G-d also?
Tzvi, instead of supporting Shas, why don't you support JTF and send in a donation to Chaim through paypal?
Who says he doesn't?
Well I see him attacking Lubavitch and I never see him have anything positive to say about this movement. He is just here to promote shas. If he has made a contribution then I am wrong and I stand corrected but I doubt he has. I am not even trying to say that he needs to make a donation because its possible their are people here who want to donate but are short on funds. I was just trying to make a point and tell him to support this movement and Chaim as much as he supports shas.
Again where did I say I support Shas and am agains't JTF? I was only telling you to stop with your flaggrant insults, against the Rabbi.
Well you certainly hold shas in higher esteem than JTF even though shas steals more money in one hour than most of us have made in our whole lives.
::) , keep slandering. You are pointless, you definitly have a very low self esteem, hatred, and jealousy because all you do is talk trash about others expecially the Hachamim, and dont pretend to be defending Lubavitch now, you have stated numerous times in the past that you hate Haredim and all the other usual non-sense and hate you promote. You are a sick case, who wants to put Rabbis down in order to justify all of your daily sins that you commit.
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We get your point. The problem is Mr. Yosef is not a "Gadol." Maybe his nose is a "gadol" from all the lying this man has done. Him and his party are personally responsible for the blowing off the legs of the two sderot brothers. These two jewish boys got their legs blown off because the skunk allows Olmert to roam free.
And you would be the perfect candidate to determine who is a gadol and who is not? Do you even keep the simple laws from the Torah - Shabbat, Kashrut, NOT TO SPEAK LASHON HARA, or are you angry at G-d also?
Tzvi, instead of supporting Shas, why don't you support JTF and send in a donation to Chaim through paypal?
Who says he doesn't?
Well I see him attacking Lubavitch and I never see him have anything positive to say about this movement. He is just here to promote shas. If he has made a contribution then I am wrong and I stand corrected but I doubt he has. I am not even trying to say that he needs to make a donation because its possible their are people here who want to donate but are short on funds. I was just trying to make a point and tell him to support this movement and Chaim as much as he supports shas.
Again where did I say I support Shas and am agains't JTF? I was only telling you to stop with your flaggrant insults, against the Rabbi.
Well you certainly hold shas in higher esteem than JTF even though shas steals more money in one hour than most of us have made in our whole lives.
::) , keep slandering. You are pointless, you definitly have a very low self esteem, hatred, and jealousy because all you do is talk trash about others expecially the Hachamim, and dont pretend to be defending Lubavitch now, you have stated numerous times in the past that you hate Haredim and all the other usual non-sense and hate you promote. You are a sick case, who wants to put Rabbis down in order to justify all of your daily sins that you commit.
I have supported Lubavitch for the last year ever since Chaim explained the greatness of those people. I only dislike the anti zionist lakewood types and chasidim who hold those beliefs. I know lubavitch is not this way and that they are saintly people. You are the one who slandered lubavitch last night and you are slandering me now. You don't know my level of observance so stop going that route. Its funny how a college student who cant even spell basic words(even with the forum's spell checker) can diagnose me as having low self esteem. I think you are a sick goilem who contributes nothing to this forum except shas's daily press releases. Stop supporting the Rabbi who threw Chaim out of Israel.
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For the record I didn't slander Lubavitch, all I said was that is their should be "cleaning up" to do within the religious community, then it would be within Lubavitch (and not all of Lubavitch), and within I meant the Messianists. And that post was directed for someone who said that maybe a Rabbi should be excommunicated, so I said first, they should look into Lubavitch (and not all of it). This isn't that important right now anyway.
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You called Scriabin 'a snake'.
Well....I am sure Scribian the Musician had his share of snakes - inside him. Afterall he was a homo.
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You called Scriabin 'a snake'.
Well....I am sure Scribian the Musician had his share of snakes - inside him. Afterall he was a homo.
;D , who cares though? And anyway its only from some article calling him a homo, maybe like they call Alexander Makedonski a homo in the movie they made of him. Maybe its just a conspiracy where they want to show that homos got into high positions in life, etc. (which was probably true, within the european communities, but either way, who cares?).
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Tsvi - he was a homo. He was breaking a Mitzvot. Hey ! You changed me for the better and now I dislike homos (remember our old debates?) I even burned all of my George Michael singles.
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Tsvi - he was a homo. He was breaking a Mitzvot. Hey ! You changed me for the better and now I dislike homos (remember our old debates?) I even burned all of my Groege Michael singles.
He wasn't Jewish, right? (I dont know about him), but since he wasn't Jewish then it doesn't affect me so I dont care + its just an article, either way I have no incentive to defend him.
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Are you saying I burned all my George Michael singles for nothing ? :'(
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Are you saying I burned all my George Michael singles for nothing ? :'(
I dont know who he is, but if he was a homo, then it was a good thing that you did becuase his music (or anybody elses ) influences you, and a part of their soul goes into their music becuase it if their invention. That also goes for food and who cookes it (also the mood etc. everything affects you. Listining music, expecially from a homo would definitly create sinful tendencies and other bad things because of the actions by that musician. Thats why rap is also very bad. To tell you the truth most music has a negative affect, unless you know that the singer is virtuous, etc. Try finding Sefaradi music (expecially they have a lot on Arutz Sheva Jukebox), also some of the Hasidic musicians like Matisyahu and Yosef Karduner is very good to listin to, but most other things are not, and better to be avoided if possible).
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THANKYOU TSVI
I quite like Yeroham Gaon. One of my all time favourite :)
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kool, http://youtube.com/watch?v=Iv2rLk71rBA -
Maybe you would like this music. This particual song is taken from Psalms that is also said during Friday night Aravit prayer. "Tzaddik Kitamar Yifrach, KeErez BeLevanon Yisge" - A rightious man flourishes like a Palm tree, as a cedar in Levanon he will grow...
Also if you like you can check out other music by Yosef Karduner. Tell me if you like it.
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:'( , I just realized why I was pulled to listin to that song, that song also has many illusions and is the name of a Holy Tzaddik,a spark of Moses' and Rebbe Nachman's soul, that was murdered 1 year ago, repeatedly stabbed to death by arabs, while he was involved in Hitbadidut in the hills of Judea. His name was Erez Levanon, the Holy Tzaddik, someone of whom Rabbi Nachman illudes to in Likutei Moharan 2 houndred years ago, about this Holy Tzaddik who will be murdered.
Just now I realized it was one year ago when I went acrooss on this site.
http://lazerbrody.typepad.com/lazer_beams/
It is also the Yertzeit of Moshe Rabbeinu Alav Hashalom.
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http://www.breslovworld.com/DynamicArtical.aspx?linknumber=2968 - A little about this Holy Martyr
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How about this. Chabad.org
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that was murdered 1 year ago, repeatedly stabbed to death by arabs, while he was involved in Hitbadidut in the hills of
Judea.
Thanks for the links. What happened exactly to the rabbi? What were the circumstances of his stabbing?
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Could someone explain who the Rabbi is and what he's doing?
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The above links provide info on who he was and what he was doing. You can also make a search, expecially Arutz Sheva had articles about his murder.