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Title: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: Cyberella on February 25, 2008, 02:04:11 AM


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Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: Ari on February 25, 2008, 02:23:49 AM
Wow, great find.  And he says he's not a Muslim.  Lying B   stard. 
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: Just Erica on February 25, 2008, 02:36:18 AM
Wow, great find.  And he says he's not a Muslim.  Lying B   stard. 
I'm reaching a little but what are civilian women visiting a Muslim country told to do if they want to walk the streets? The answer: "WEAR A HIJAB!" Obama is in Africa in that picture, respecting his father's culture and the people's way of dressing. Besides, he looks as if he's trying it on.
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: newman on February 25, 2008, 02:44:43 AM
Wow, great find.  And he says he's not a Muslim.  Lying B   stard. 
I'm reaching a little but what are civilian women visiting a Muslim country told to do if they want to walk the streets? The answer: "WEAR A HIJAB!" Obama is in Africa in that picture, respecting his father's culture and the people's way of dressing. Besides, he looks as if he's trying it on.

That's the most pathetic, p*ss weak excuse you've come up with to date. It's right up there with...."I was just helping that sheep through the fence". ::)
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: Just Erica on February 25, 2008, 03:14:32 AM
Wow, great find.  And he says he's not a Muslim.  Lying B   stard. 
I'm reaching a little but what are civilian women visiting a Muslim country told to do if they want to walk the streets? The answer: "WEAR A HIJAB!" Obama is in Africa in that picture, respecting his father's culture and the people's way of dressing. Besides, he looks as if he's trying it on.

That's the most pathetic, p*ss weak excuse you've come up with to date. It's right up there with...."I was just helping that sheep through the fence". ::)
You are an a%&, newman. And you're evil, to boot. I only offered my opinion. You need to grow the hell up.
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: newman on February 25, 2008, 03:38:24 AM
Wow, great find.  And he says he's not a Muslim.  Lying B   stard. 
I'm reaching a little but what are civilian women visiting a Muslim country told to do if they want to walk the streets? The answer: "WEAR A HIJAB!" Obama is in Africa in that picture, respecting his father's culture and the people's way of dressing. Besides, he looks as if he's trying it on.

That's the most pathetic, p*ss weak excuse you've come up with to date. It's right up there with...."I was just helping that sheep through the fence". ::)
You are an a%&, newman. And you're evil, to boot. I only offered my opinion. You need to grow the hell up.

You were trying to make an excuse for obummer wearing muSSlim-nazi garb and it was pathetic. ust admit it. He's caught out.
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: Just Erica on February 25, 2008, 03:42:25 AM
Wow, great find.  And he says he's not a Muslim.  Lying B   stard. 
I'm reaching a little but what are civilian women visiting a Muslim country told to do if they want to walk the streets? The answer: "WEAR A HIJAB!" Obama is in Africa in that picture, respecting his father's culture and the people's way of dressing. Besides, he looks as if he's trying it on.

That's the most pathetic, p*ss weak excuse you've come up with to date. It's right up there with...."I was just helping that sheep through the fence". ::)
You are an a%&, newman. And you're evil, to boot. I only offered my opinion. You need to grow the hell up.

You were trying to make an excuse for obummer wearing muSSlim-nazi garb and it was pathetic. ust admit it. He's caught out.
He's not CAUGHT doing anything. I'm sure he knows that that picture exists and apparently, WE aren't the only people to see it. And yet, he's STILL on top. The man isn't a Muslim but he has a right to go to his father's birth country and dress how he wants. You are addicted to telling people how to live their lives, who's example to follow. What you need to do is get your own life together before you start tearing others' apart.
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: Ehud on February 25, 2008, 04:11:06 AM
Not caught doing anything? I wouldn't be caught dead wearing those rags.  That picture at least shows that he is sympathetic to Islam which is a HUGE problem for a US presidential candidate. 
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: newman on February 25, 2008, 04:16:19 AM
It's only on the blogs, too. It's been burried in the regular media!
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: Ehud on February 25, 2008, 04:18:39 AM
The fact that Americans don't see a problem with this, including people like Erica, is VERY disturbing. 
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: Just Erica on February 25, 2008, 04:20:28 AM
Not caught doing anything? I wouldn't be caught dead wearing those rags.  That picture at least shows that he is sympathetic to Islam which is a HUGE problem for a US presidential candidate. 
He wasn't caught doing anything, like I posted before. And of COURSE you wouldn't wear it, the outfit isn't of your culture. You don't see any black men dressed like Jewish men, do you?
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: newman on February 25, 2008, 04:23:42 AM
Not caught doing anything? I wouldn't be caught dead wearing those rags.  That picture at least shows that he is sympathetic to Islam which is a HUGE problem for a US presidential candidate. 
He wasn't caught doing anything, like I posted before. And of COURSE you wouldn't wear it, the outfit isn't of your culture. You don't see any black men dressed like Jewish men, do you?

You've just made our point. That garb is of HIS culture.............. muSSlim!
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: Ehud on February 25, 2008, 04:25:05 AM
Not caught doing anything? I wouldn't be caught dead wearing those rags.  That picture at least shows that he is sympathetic to Islam which is a HUGE problem for a US presidential candidate. 
He wasn't caught doing anything, like I posted before. And of COURSE you wouldn't wear it, the outfit isn't of your culture. You don't see any black men dressed like Jewish men, do you?

Last time I checked, it wasn't a bunch of Jews who bombed the world trade center.  The point is as Yaakov said.  Anyone who has any ties of sympathy to Islam should not be President, and in my opinion, should not even be a citizen. 
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: newman on February 25, 2008, 04:27:13 AM
Question for Erica.

Would you object to an American Presidential candidate of german parentage wearing a nazi uniform on a visit to germany ?
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: Just Erica on February 25, 2008, 04:35:38 AM
Question for Erica.

Would you object to an American Presidential candidate of german parentage wearing a nazi uniform on a visit to germany ?
The Nazi uniform isn't part of German culture! The Nazi uniform is representative of the evil doings of an idiot,whom I think was actually Satan in the flesh before he off-ed himself.
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: Ulli on February 25, 2008, 04:38:55 AM
Wow, great find.  And he says he's not a Muslim.  Lying B   stard. 
I'm reaching a little but what are civilian women visiting a Muslim country told to do if they want to walk the streets? The answer: "WEAR A HIJAB!" Obama is in Africa in that picture, respecting his father's culture and the people's way of dressing. Besides, he looks as if he's trying it on.

That's the most pathetic, p*ss weak excuse you've come up with to date. It's right up there with...."I was just helping that sheep through the fence". ::)
You are an a%&, newman. And you're evil, to boot. I only offered my opinion. You need to grow the hell up.

You were trying to make an excuse for obummer wearing muSSlim-nazi garb and it was pathetic. ust admit it. He's caught out.
He's not CAUGHT doing anything. I'm sure he knows that that picture exists and apparently, WE aren't the only people to see it. And yet, he's STILL on top. The man isn't a Muslim but he has a right to go to his father's birth country and dress how he wants. You are addicted to telling people how to live their lives, who's example to follow. What you need to do is get your own life together before you start tearing others' apart.

Erika, be honest to yourself. There are so much indications.

Even if Barak would be cought in the mosque in the middle of the Salat (ritual daily prayer), you would say:

"No he is no muslime. He wanted only to show his respect to the Muslime culture."
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: Just Erica on February 25, 2008, 04:45:35 AM
Wow, great find.  And he says he's not a Muslim.  Lying B   stard. 
I'm reaching a little but what are civilian women visiting a Muslim country told to do if they want to walk the streets? The answer: "WEAR A HIJAB!" Obama is in Africa in that picture, respecting his father's culture and the people's way of dressing. Besides, he looks as if he's trying it on.
That's the most pathetic, p*ss weak excuse you've come up with to date. It's right up there with...."I was just helping that sheep through the fence". ::)
You are an a%&, newman. And you're evil, to boot. I only offered my opinion. You need to grow the hell up.

You were trying to make an excuse for obummer wearing muSSlim-nazi garb and it was pathetic. ust admit it. He's caught out.
He's not CAUGHT doing anything. I'm sure he knows that that picture exists and apparently, WE aren't the only people to see it. And yet, he's STILL on top. The man isn't a Muslim but he has a right to go to his father's birth country and dress how he wants. You are addicted to telling people how to live their lives, who's example to follow. What you need to do is get your own life together before you start tearing others' apart.

Erika, be honest to yourself. There are so much indications.

Even if Barak would be cought in the mosque in the middle of the Salat (ritual daily prayer), you would say:

"No he is no muslime. He wanted only to show his respect to the Muslime culture."
If there was actual proof that he was seen in that light, I'd believe it then... but that picture hasn't been taken. Nor does it exist because he  is a Christian now.

Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: newman on February 25, 2008, 04:47:06 AM
Question for Erica.

Would you object to an American Presidential candidate of german parentage wearing a nazi uniform on a visit to germany ?
The Nazi uniform isn't part of German culture! The Nazi uniform is representative of the evil doings of an idiot,whom I think was actually Satan in the flesh before he off-ed himself.

I didn't ask if it was part of german culture.

I ask again, is it OK for a german-American politician to try on a nazi uniform?
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: Just Erica on February 25, 2008, 04:52:30 AM
Question for Erica.

Would you object to an American Presidential candidate of german parentage wearing a nazi uniform on a visit to germany ?
The Nazi uniform isn't part of German culture! The Nazi uniform is representative of the evil doings of an idiot,whom I think was actually Satan in the flesh before he off-ed himself.

I didn't ask if it was part of german culture.

I ask again, is it OK for a german-American politician to try on a nazi uniform?
YOU DIDN't ASK THAT QUESTION, NEWMAN. And like I said the Nazi uniform isn't the same as African garb. So the answer is NO. It would be improper for a presidential candidate (OR ANYONE) to wear a NAZI uniform in Germany or even outside of his home. It is NOT improper for someone to wear African garb or even, or even Muslim garb... those clothing choices aren't related to evil people in general. You need help.
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: Ambiorix on February 25, 2008, 04:54:27 AM
Question for Erica.

Would you object to an American Presidential candidate of german parentage wearing a nazi uniform on a visit to germany ?
The Nazi uniform isn't part of German culture! The Nazi uniform is representative of the evil doings of an idiot,whom I think was actually Satan in the flesh before he off-ed himself.

I didn't ask if it was part of german culture.

I ask again, is it OK for a german-American politician to try on a nazi uniform?
YOU DIDN't ASK THAT QUESTION, NEWMAN. And like I said the Nazi uniform isn't the same as African garb. So the answer is NO. It would be improper for a presidential candidate (OR ANYONE) to wear a NAZI uniform in Germany or even outside of his home. It is NOT improper for someone to wear African garb or even, or even Muslim garb... those clothing choices aren't related to evil people in general. You need help.
you need help too.
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: Just Erica on February 25, 2008, 04:55:12 AM
Dumb, dumb, dumb, UMM HMM! Dumb, dumb, dumb, UMM HMM! Dumb, dumb, dumb, UMM HMM! UMM HMM, UMM HMM, UMM HMM, UMM HMM!

What a great quote that was of Chaim.


And it also proves how immature you are. I'm not impressed, Yacov. You get angry because some doesn't agree with you and their either 'morons', "affirmative action hires", or " dumb". How very small you are.
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: newman on February 25, 2008, 04:56:49 AM
Question for Erica.

Would you object to an American Presidential candidate of german parentage wearing a nazi uniform on a visit to germany ?
The Nazi uniform isn't part of German culture! The Nazi uniform is representative of the evil doings of an idiot,whom I think was actually Satan in the flesh before he off-ed himself.

I didn't ask if it was part of german culture.

I ask again, is it OK for a german-American politician to try on a nazi uniform?
YOU DIDN't ASK THAT QUESTION, NEWMAN. And like I said the Nazi uniform isn't the same as African garb. So the answer is NO. It would be improper for a presidential candidate (OR ANYONE) to wear a NAZI uniform in Germany or even outside of his home. It is NOT improper for someone to wear African garb or even, or even Muslim garb... those clothing choices aren't related to evil people in general. You need help.
It's exactly the same.

muSSlim-nazi garb embody the genocidal, muSSlim-nazi belief just as german-nazi garb embodies the german-nazi belief.

You have a biased double standard.
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: Just Erica on February 25, 2008, 04:56:56 AM
Question for Erica.

Would you object to an American Presidential candidate of german parentage wearing a nazi uniform on a visit to germany ?
The Nazi uniform isn't part of German culture! The Nazi uniform is representative of the evil doings of an idiot,whom I think was actually Satan in the flesh before he off-ed himself.
I didn't ask if it was part of german culture.

I ask again, is it OK for a german-American politician to try on a nazi uniform?
YOU DIDN't ASK THAT QUESTION, NEWMAN. And like I said the Nazi uniform isn't the same as African garb. So the answer is NO. It would be improper for a presidential candidate (OR ANYONE) to wear a NAZI uniform in Germany or even outside of his home. It is NOT improper for someone to wear African garb or even, or even Muslim garb... those clothing choices aren't related to evil people in general. You need help.
you need help too.
I'm just fine. I have no problem disagreeing with anyone here. My problem is people insulting me and then gettin angry because I stand up for myself.

Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: Ambiorix on February 25, 2008, 06:01:41 AM
Question for Erica.

Would you object to an American Presidential candidate of german parentage wearing a nazi uniform on a visit to germany ?
The Nazi uniform isn't part of German culture! The Nazi uniform is representative of the evil doings of an idiot,whom I think was actually Satan in the flesh before he off-ed himself.
I didn't ask if it was part of german culture.

I ask again, is it OK for a german-American politician to try on a nazi uniform?
YOU DIDN't ASK THAT QUESTION, NEWMAN. And like I said the Nazi uniform isn't the same as African garb. So the answer is NO. It would be improper for a presidential candidate (OR ANYONE) to wear a NAZI uniform in Germany or even outside of his home. It is NOT improper for someone to wear African garb or even, or even Muslim garb... those clothing choices aren't related to evil people in general. You need help.
you need help too.
I'm just fine. I have no problem disagreeing with anyone here. My problem is people insulting me and then gettin angry because I stand up for myself.


But why do you post here? This is a right-wing forum. You are not so right-wing. Imagine I go on a pro-obama forum. What do you think would happen then?  I would get into troubles if I only would tell people I like JTF.
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: Just Erica on February 25, 2008, 06:45:44 AM
Question for Erica.

Would you object to an American Presidential candidate of german parentage wearing a nazi uniform on a visit to germany ?
The Nazi uniform isn't part of German culture! The Nazi uniform is representative of the evil doings of an idiot,whom I think was actually Satan in the flesh before he off-ed himself.

I didn't ask if it was part of german culture.

I ask again, is it OK for a german-American politician to try on a nazi uniform?
YOU DIDN't ASK THAT QUESTION, NEWMAN. And like I said the Nazi uniform isn't the same as African garb. So the answer is NO. It would be improper for a presidential candidate (OR ANYONE) to wear a NAZI uniform in Germany or even outside of his home. It is NOT improper for someone to wear African garb or even, or even Muslim garb... those clothing choices aren't related to evil people in general. You need help.


You don't know how to read.

And those aren't African garbs. They are Muslim garbs.


It is African Muslim garb. It still proves nothing.
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: Just Erica on February 25, 2008, 06:48:50 AM
Question for Erica.

Would you object to an American Presidential candidate of german parentage wearing a nazi uniform on a visit to germany ?
The Nazi uniform isn't part of German culture! The Nazi uniform is representative of the evil doings of an idiot,whom I think was actually Satan in the flesh before he off-ed himself.
.

I didn't ask if it was part of german culture.

I ask again, is it OK for a german-American politician to try on a nazi uniform?
YOU DIDN't ASK THAT QUESTION, NEWMAN. And like I said the Nazi uniform isn't the same as African garb. So the answer is NO. It would be improper for a presidential candidate (OR ANYONE) to wear a NAZI uniform in Germany or even outside of his home. It is NOT improper for someone to wear African garb or even, or even Muslim garb... those clothing choices aren't related to evil people in general. You need help.
It's exactly the same.

muSSlim-nazi garb embody the genocidal, muSSlim-nazi belief just as german-nazi garb embodies the german-nazi belief.

You have a biased double standard.

You call me biased and YOU are the one saying that ALL muslims (basically) who wear Muslim garb are Nazis? I HAVE NO PROBLEM with labeling actual evil muslims with evil terrorist acts, "evil" but it's NOT because of their clothes...its because of their actions. When did you ever hear of anyone in Obama's family (on his Dad's side) committing attocities like murdering in the name of jihad? NEVER. You call people nazis but have NO proof that that's what they are
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: newman on February 25, 2008, 06:50:46 AM
ALL muSSlims support acts of terror even if they don't commit them personally.
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: Just Erica on February 25, 2008, 06:51:24 AM
Question for Erica.

Would you object to an American Presidential candidate of german parentage wearing a nazi uniform on a visit to germany ?
The Nazi uniform isn't part of German culture! The Nazi uniform is representative of the evil doings of an idiot,whom I think was actually Satan in the flesh before he off-ed himself.
I didn't ask if it was part of german culture.

I ask again, is it OK for a german-American politician to try on a nazi uniform?
YOU DIDN't ASK THAT QUESTION, NEWMAN. And like I said the Nazi uniform isn't the same as African garb. So the answer is NO. It would be improper for a presidential candidate (OR ANYONE) to wear a NAZI uniform in Germany or even outside of his home. It is NOT improper for someone to wear African garb or even, or even Muslim garb... those clothing choices aren't related to evil people in general. You need help.
you need help too.
I'm just fine. I have no problem disagreeing with anyone here. My problem is people insulting me and then gettin angry because I stand up for myself.


But why do you post here? This is a right-wing forum. You are not so right-wing. Imagine I go on a pro-obama forum. What do you think would happen then?  I would get into troubles if I only would tell people I like JTF.
Nine times out of ten, you would go to an Obama forum and totally trash the entire board for supporting him. I didn't come here for that. Blame the rest on Allen T, Judeanoncapta, and my curiosity of why some of you think the way you do.
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: Just Erica on February 25, 2008, 06:53:53 AM
ALL muSSlims support acts of terror even if they don't commit them personally.
That's a stupid comment, newman. That's like me saying that ALL whites support racism even if they aren't a part of the kkk and don't do anything to hurt anyone.
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: newman on February 25, 2008, 06:58:56 AM
ALL muSSlims support acts of terror even if they don't commit them personally.
That's a stupid comment, newman. That's like me saying that ALL whites support racism even if they aren't a part of the kkk and don't do anything to hurt anyone.
What a dumb comparison. There is NOTHING in any white religion compelling racism, but iSSlam itself DEMANDS acts of terror against non-muSSlims. They've been doing it for 1300 years!
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: Just Erica on February 25, 2008, 07:04:00 AM
ALL muSSlims support acts of terror even if they don't commit them personally.
That's a stupid comment, newman. That's like me saying that ALL whites support racism even if they aren't a part of the kkk and don't do anything to hurt anyone.
What a dumb comparison. There is NOTHING in any white religion compelling racism, but iSSlam itself DEMANDS acts of terror against non-muSSlims. They've been doing it for 1300 years!
I'm a non-muslim and according to you,I should have been terrorized by Muslims many times... sorry..hasn't happened. It is insane to basically say that ALL Muslims are in on the terror because they're muslims. Newman, that's priceless.
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: newman on February 25, 2008, 07:07:43 AM
ALL muSSlims support acts of terror even if they don't commit them personally.
That's a stupid comment, newman. That's like me saying that ALL whites support racism even if they aren't a part of the kkk and don't do anything to hurt anyone.
What a dumb comparison. There is NOTHING in any white religion compelling racism, but iSSlam itself DEMANDS acts of terror against non-muSSlims. They've been doing it for 1300 years!
I'm a non-muslim and according to you,I should have been terrorized by Muslims many times... sorry..hasn't happened. It is insane to basically say that ALL Muslims are in on the terror because they're muslims. Newman, that's priceless.

Do you have any logic in that primative african skull?

Just because you havn't been victim of terror doesn't mean iSSlam doesn't call for Jihad against non-muSSlims!!!

And I didn't say all muSSlims are in on terror. I said they all support it.

You can't read!!!
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: Just Erica on February 25, 2008, 07:14:55 AM
ALL muSSlims support acts of terror even if they don't commit them personally.
That's a stupid comment, newman. That's like me saying that ALL whites support racism even if they aren't a part of the kkk and don't do anything to hurt anyone.
What a dumb comparison. There is NOTHING in any white religion compelling racism, but iSSlam itself DEMANDS acts of terror against non-muSSlims. They've been doing it for 1300 years!
I'm a non-muslim and according to you,I should have been terrorized by Muslims many times... sorry..hasn't happened. It is insane to basically say that ALL Muslims are in on the terror because they're muslims. Newman, that's priceless. 

Do you have any logic in that primative african skull?

Just because you havn't been victim of terror doesn't mean iSSlam doesn't call for Jihad against non-muSSlims!!!

And I didn't say all muSSlims are in on terror. I said they all support it.

You can't read!!!
Um.. "All Muslims support terror" means "ALL MUSLIMS ARE IN ON TERROR", newman. Either way, they don't care. (according to your 'logic')
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: newman on February 25, 2008, 07:17:17 AM
ALL muSSlims support acts of terror even if they don't commit them personally.
That's a stupid comment, newman. That's like me saying that ALL whites support racism even if they aren't a part of the kkk and don't do anything to hurt anyone.
What a dumb comparison. There is NOTHING in any white religion compelling racism, but iSSlam itself DEMANDS acts of terror against non-muSSlims. They've been doing it for 1300 years!
I'm a non-muslim and according to you,I should have been terrorized by Muslims many times... sorry..hasn't happened. It is insane to basically say that ALL Muslims are in on the terror because they're muslims. Newman, that's priceless. 

Do you have any logic in that primative african skull?

Just because you havn't been victim of terror doesn't mean iSSlam doesn't call for Jihad against non-muSSlims!!!

And I didn't say all muSSlims are in on terror. I said they all support it.

You can't read!!!
Um.. "All Muslims support terror" means "ALL MUSLIMS ARE IN ON TERROR", newman. Either way, they don't care. (according to your 'logic')

No it doesn't.

If you support a soccer team it means you want them to win. It doesn't mean you're playing or in on the game.

DUH! ::)
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: Just Erica on February 25, 2008, 07:23:53 AM
ALL muSSlims support acts of terror even if they don't commit them personally.
That's a stupid comment, newman. That's like me saying that ALL whites support racism even if they aren't a part of the kkk and don't do anything to hurt anyone.
What a dumb comparison. There is NOTHING in any white religion compelling racism, but iSSlam itself DEMANDS acts of terror against non-muSSlims. They've been doing it for 1300 years!
I'm a non-muslim and according to you,I should have been terrorized by Muslims many times... sorry..hasn't happened. It is insane to basically say that ALL Muslims are in on the terror because they're muslims. Newman, that's priceless. 

Do you have any logic in that primative african skull?

Just because you havn't been victim of terror doesn't mean iSSlam doesn't call for Jihad against non-muSSlims!!!

And I didn't say all muSSlims are in on terror. I said they all support it.

You can't read!!!
Um.. "All Muslims support terror" means "ALL MUSLIMS ARE IN ON TERROR", newman. Either way, they don't care. (according to your 'logic')

No it doesn't.

If you support a soccer team it means you want them to win. It doesn't mean you're playing or in on the game.

DUH! ::)
There is a saying, I may not get it just right but those who sit by and watch evil happen are just as evil as the person who committed the crime. If what you say is true, ALL muslims are evil and that's  all she wrote. I don't believe that ALL Muslims are like the evil ones. There were Muslims who were just as hurt as the Americans when those planes were crashed into the Twin Towers, the Pentagon and in Pennsylvania. Muslim relatives were lost in each of the crashes.

You're beyond help. Your hatred has consumed you.
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: newman on February 25, 2008, 07:30:22 AM

There is a saying, I may not get it just right but those who sit by and watch evil happen are just as evil as the person who committed the crime. If what you say is true, ALL muslims are evil and that's  all she wrote. I don't believe that ALL Muslims are like the evil ones. There were Muslims who were just as hurt as the Americans when those planes were crashed into the Twin Towers, the Pentagon and in Pennsylvania. Muslim relatives were lost in each of the crashes.

You're beyond help. Your hatred has consumed you.
[/quote]

Read the muSSlim-nazi koran sometime instead of the TV guide. You'll see what iSSlam is about. muSSlims MUST hate non-muSSlims and wage war against them. muSSlims are as evil as WW2 nazis.
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: Just Erica on February 25, 2008, 07:41:44 AM

There is a saying, I may not get it just right but those who sit by and watch evil happen are just as evil as the person who committed the crime. If what you say is true, ALL muslims are evil and that's  all she wrote. I don't believe that ALL Muslims are like the evil ones. There were Muslims who were just as hurt as the Americans when those planes were crashed into the Twin Towers, the Pentagon and in Pennsylvania. Muslim relatives were lost in each of the crashes.

You're beyond help. Your hatred has consumed you.

Read the muSSlim-nazi koran sometime instead of the TV guide. You'll see what iSSlam is about. muSSlims MUST hate non-muSSlims and wage war against them. muSSlims are as evil as WW2 nazis.
[/quote]Man, as a Christian, there are things I don't agree with in the Bible because the times changed.. I cut my hair, I eat shellfish... There are muslims who dont' follow the Koran to the letter.
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: newman on February 25, 2008, 07:47:34 AM

There is a saying, I may not get it just right but those who sit by and watch evil happen are just as evil as the person who committed the crime. If what you say is true, ALL muslims are evil and that's  all she wrote. I don't believe that ALL Muslims are like the evil ones. There were Muslims who were just as hurt as the Americans when those planes were crashed into the Twin Towers, the Pentagon and in Pennsylvania. Muslim relatives were lost in each of the crashes.

You're beyond help. Your hatred has consumed you.

Read the muSSlim-nazi koran sometime instead of the TV guide. You'll see what iSSlam is about. muSSlims MUST hate non-muSSlims and wage war against them. muSSlims are as evil as WW2 nazis.
Man, as a Christian, there are things I don't agree with in the Bible because the times changed.. I cut my hair, I eat shellfish... There are muslims who dont' follow the Koran to the letter.
[/quote]

Then they are semi-observant nazis but still nazis
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: Just Erica on February 25, 2008, 07:51:16 AM

There is a saying, I may not get it just right but those who sit by and watch evil happen are just as evil as the person who committed the crime. If what you say is true, ALL muslims are evil and that's  all she wrote. I don't believe that ALL Muslims are like the evil ones. There were Muslims who were just as hurt as the Americans when those planes were crashed into the Twin Towers, the Pentagon and in Pennsylvania. Muslim relatives were lost in each of the crashes.

You're beyond help. Your hatred has consumed you.

Read the muSSlim-nazi koran sometime instead of the TV guide. You'll see what iSSlam is about. muSSlims MUST hate non-muSSlims and wage war against them. muSSlims are as evil as WW2 nazis.
Man, as a Christian, there are things I don't agree with in the Bible because the times changed.. I cut my hair, I eat shellfish... There are muslims who dont' follow the Koran to the letter.

Then they are semi-observant nazis but still nazis
[/quote]Now you're officially blind.
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on February 25, 2008, 07:56:13 AM
The Midrash says when King Achasverosh was angry with Princess Vasti and wanted to execute her for not showing up at his party, he asked the Jewish sages' advice. But the sages thought: " If we declare Vasti guilty, and the King executes her, then he'll blame all Jews as soon as his rage is gone. And if we declare her innocent, he'll blame all Jews for not honoring the Kingdom" So they made an excuse and said: " Since the Beis Hamikdash is destroyed, we don't have the wisdom to judge about a life/death issue, please ask you other counsellors". It is written to teach the Jews to avoid getting involved in Goyshe issues that will profit them nothing.
But it seems that many people here are doing just the opposite!!!! What if Obama wins, and other Jews who have nothing to do with you, are targeted by Blacks rage. Chas VeShalom!!!! Hashem may require it from you!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: Ulli on February 25, 2008, 08:15:31 AM
The Midrash says when King Achasverosh was angry with Princess Vasti and wanted to execute her for not showing up at his party, he asked the Jewish sages' advice. But the sages thought: " If we declare Vasti guilty, and the King executes her, then he'll blame all Jews as soon as his rage is gone. And if we declare her innocent, he'll blame all Jews for not honoring the Kingdom" So they made an excuse and said: " Since the Beis Hamikdash is destroyed, we don't have the wisdom to judge about a life/death issue, please ask you other counsellors". It is written to teach the Jews to avoid getting involved in Goyshe issues that will profit them nothing.
But it seems that many people here are doing just the opposite!!!! What if Obama wins, and other Jews who have nothing to do with you, are targeted by Blacks rage. Chas VeShalom!!!! Hashem may require it from you!!!!!!!!!!

The European Jews in my Country have exactly behave like you suggest. The result was, that the most of them were blown out.

Antisemites are mentally ill. It is irrelevant like Jews behave or what political position they take. They will try to murder them in any case. They find in any case a reason for their "rage".

In Germany they have accused them to be responsible for bolschewism and capitalism together.

They have accused them of mixed marriage with gentiles and of seperating from the society together.

They have accused them of ruling the catholic church from behind the scenes and of going against Christians together.

You are wrong Raul!
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: KansasJew on February 25, 2008, 08:16:12 AM
I have been reading this thread from the beginning...I see an interesting trend.. There are people that have lived and living and who will come to live on this planet. Whom no matter the evidence will stick to ones beliefs. When dealing with such people it is better to be quiet and walk away.

However in the current situation that USA is facing with the possible elections of the President.  Americans need to investigate her choices of candidates very deeply and not follow or vote for a person on superficial values or conditions. Thus you have to look at his or her WHOLE life and implications and qualifications for the Office of the President.

Never Never have full faith in Authority use your own thinking and trust your instincts.

My instincts tell me that Obama will be bad news for USA not based on his skin color( even tho people will vote for him just for this reason) but on his background which is will compromise the integrity of the office of the PRESIDENT.  
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on February 25, 2008, 09:22:35 AM
The Midrash says when King Achasverosh was angry with Princess Vasti and wanted to execute her for not showing up at his party, he asked the Jewish sages' advice. But the sages thought: " If we declare Vasti guilty, and the King executes her, then he'll blame all Jews as soon as his rage is gone. And if we declare her innocent, he'll blame all Jews for not honoring the Kingdom" So they made an excuse and said: " Since the Beis Hamikdash is destroyed, we don't have the wisdom to judge about a life/death issue, please ask you other counsellors". It is written to teach the Jews to avoid getting involved in Goyshe issues that will profit them nothing.
But it seems that many people here are doing just the opposite!!!! What if Obama wins, and other Jews who have nothing to do with you, are targeted by Blacks rage. Chas VeShalom!!!! Hashem may require it from you!!!!!!!!!!

The European Jews in my Country have exactly behave like you suggest. The result was, that the most of them were blown out.

Antisemites are mentally ill. It is irrelevant like Jews behave or what political position they take. They will try to murder them in any case. They find in any case a reason for their "rage".

In Germany they have accused them to be responsible for bolschewism and capitalism together.

They have accused them of mixed marriage with gentiles and of seperating from the society together.

They have accused them of ruling the catholic church from behind the scenes and of going against Christians together.

You are wrong Raul!

You are right about anti-Semites. Honestly, when I see or hear one of them I am scared, not only because of what he may do, but just because I feel I have found an evil ghost. But I think there are people who are not anti-Semites, but may overllook anti-Semitism if they hear Jews sound like racists.
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: Cyberella on February 25, 2008, 09:45:42 AM
Ericka, why are you on this board? Are you masochistic?
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: Just Erica on February 25, 2008, 10:01:54 AM
Ericka, why are you on this board? Are you masochistic?
I would have to be wouldn't I, to be constantly beaten up everyday...but no, I'm not masochistic. I'm here because I'm upset with the way some people see black people. I absolutely hate hearing that there are some people in the world who think that blacks (in general) are jiggaboos, sambos, apes, AA hires, and such but don't know ONE thing about good black culture. I think that my positivity will never be seen as positive. As long as I'm here,, no matter what i say, or how I say it, I will always be an evil black- supporting , nazi muslim loving black woman in the eyes of people who don't like opinionated black people on their website.
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: KansasJew on February 25, 2008, 10:19:41 AM
reminds me of why people slow down to see an accident or go to see a boxing match or maybe a wrestling match.....Hope to see a good fight....People naturally love to argue and watch the fall out.
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: Rubystars on February 25, 2008, 10:23:28 AM
The fact is that people that wear that don't belong in America and neither do any other Muslims.

You're completely right Yacov. :) Muslims are so destructive and cancerous to every society they come into contact with as well.
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: abdithefaithful on February 25, 2008, 11:12:38 AM
Wow, great find.  And he says he's not a Muslim.  Lying B   stard. 
I'm reaching a little but what are civilian women visiting a Muslim country told to do if they want to walk the streets? The answer: "WEAR A HIJAB!" Obama is in Africa in that picture, respecting his father's culture and the people's way of dressing. Besides, he looks as if he's trying it on.

Respectfully speaking, and this certainly isn't an attack on you, Erica, or anyone for that matter.... But if I were to have to make a social or business visit to someone who lives in or around the proximity of the GAYest of East Village New York City neighborhoods, I certainly would not acquiesce and subsequently submit myself to putting on a dress and high heels out of "respect" for the "culture" of all the extreme Gays who all reside clumped together in that location-- And by the same token, Obama shouldn't have played "dress up" in order to show "respect" for the "culture" of those extreme terrorists where he was visiting either... Once again, this post is in no way meant to offend, insult or result in mental stress, I'm just simply trying to make a very basic, polite and wholesome family oriented point regarding this new photograph being presented to our friendly group of message board posters....
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: Ulli on February 25, 2008, 11:13:16 AM
Ericka, why are you on this board? Are you masochistic?
I would have to be wouldn't I, to be constantly beaten up everyday...but no, I'm not masochistic. I'm here because I'm upset with the way some people see black people. I absolutely hate hearing that there are some people in the world who think that blacks (in general) are jiggaboos, sambos, apes, AA hires, and such but don't know ONE thing about good black culture. I think that my positivity will never be seen as positive. As long as I'm here,, no matter what i say, or how I say it, I will always be an evil black- supporting , nazi muslim loving black woman in the eyes of people who don't like opinionated black people on their website.

You said, that you wanted to vote for Obama. What do you expect?

Please tell me the points of "good black culture".
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: briann on February 25, 2008, 11:28:35 AM
That is a great picture!!!!  If only we could find a picture of him in his earlier days bowing on his prayer rug.   COME ON HILLARY CAMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  You can do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: Just Erica on February 25, 2008, 07:04:44 PM
Wow, great find.  And he says he's not a Muslim.  Lying B   stard. 
I'm reaching a little but what are civilian women visiting a Muslim country told to do if they want to walk the streets? The answer: "WEAR A HIJAB!" Obama is in Africa in that picture, respecting his father's culture and the people's way of dressing. Besides, he looks as if he's trying it on.

Respectfully speaking, and this certainly isn't an attack on you, Erica, or anyone for that matter.... But if I were to have to make a social or business visit to someone who lives in or around the proximity of the GAYest of East Village New York City neighborhoods, I certainly would not acquiesce and subsequently submit myself to putting on a dress and high heels out of "respect" for the "culture" of all the extreme Gays who all reside clumped together in that location-- And by the same token, Obama shouldn't have played "dress up" in order to show "respect" for the "culture" of those extreme terrorists where he was visiting either... Once again, this post is in no way meant to offend, insult or result in mental stress, I'm just simply trying to make a very basic, polite and wholesome family oriented point regarding this new photograph being presented to our friendly group of message board posters....

You do know that Obama isn't the FIRST American politician to go to a different country and dress like the natives, right?
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: Just Erica on February 25, 2008, 07:07:26 PM
Ericka, why are you on this board? Are you masochistic?
I would have to be wouldn't I, to be constantly beaten up everyday...but no, I'm not masochistic. I'm here because I'm upset with the way some people see black people. I absolutely hate hearing that there are some people in the world who think that blacks (in general) are jiggaboos, sambos, apes, AA hires, and such but don't know ONE thing about good black culture. I think that my positivity will never be seen as positive. As long as I'm here,, no matter what i say, or how I say it, I will always be an evil black- supporting , nazi muslim loving black woman in the eyes of people who don't like opinionated black people on their website.
You said, that you wanted to vote for Obama. What do you expect?

Please tell me the points of "good black culture".
I've done that already. I'm a little tired of posting it. It's not that I can't but I know that no one here will take it seriously.  Those points are in the archives here though. You're free to look them. up.
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: abdithefaithful on February 25, 2008, 07:27:25 PM
Wow, great find.  And he says he's not a Muslim.  Lying B   stard. 
I'm reaching a little but what are civilian women visiting a Muslim country told to do if they want to walk the streets? The answer: "WEAR A HIJAB!" Obama is in Africa in that picture, respecting his father's culture and the people's way of dressing. Besides, he looks as if he's trying it on.

Respectfully speaking, and this certainly isn't an attack on you, Erica, or anyone for that matter.... But if I were to have to make a social or business visit to someone who lives in or around the proximity of the GAYest of East Village New York City neighborhoods, I certainly would not acquiesce and subsequently submit myself to putting on a dress and high heels out of "respect" for the "culture" of all the extreme Gays who all reside clumped together in that location-- And by the same token, Obama shouldn't have played "dress up" in order to show "respect" for the "culture" of those extreme terrorists where he was visiting either... Once again, this post is in no way meant to offend, insult or result in mental stress, I'm just simply trying to make a very basic, polite and wholesome family oriented point regarding this new photograph being presented to our friendly group of message board posters....

You do know that Obama isn't the FIRST American politician to go to a different country and dress like the natives, right?


Well, Obama is the first one to do it and keep a straight face while doing it... Obama looked a little too "comfortable" adorning the vile uniform of our most despised of enemies...
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: דוד בן זאב אריה on February 25, 2008, 07:33:03 PM
And this was when he was a US Sentor. How he was able to cover this for almost 2 years I have no Idea. Thank G-d we got it out in the open
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: cjd on February 25, 2008, 07:41:57 PM
The picture was supposedly put out by the Clinton campaign. The took credit for putting it out on the net but they should have made sure  that it got into the main stream media also. Its is an actual picture not something doctored. The fact that they did this in such a low key fashion shows how uncomfortable Clinton Inc. is about attacking Obama openly.
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: Just Erica on February 25, 2008, 07:54:44 PM
Wow, great find.  And he says he's not a Muslim.  Lying B   stard. 
I'm reaching a little but what are civilian women visiting a Muslim country told to do if they want to walk the streets? The answer: "WEAR A HIJAB!" Obama is in Africa in that picture, respecting his father's culture and the people's way of dressing. Besides, he looks as if he's trying it on.

Respectfully speaking, and this certainly isn't an attack on you, Erica, or anyone for that matter.... But if I were to have to make a social or business visit to someone who lives in or around the proximity of the GAYest of East Village New York City neighborhoods, I certainly would not acquiesce and subsequently submit myself to putting on a dress and high heels out of "respect" for the "culture" of all the extreme Gays who all reside clumped together in that location-- And by the same token, Obama shouldn't have played "dress up" in order to show "respect" for the "culture" of those extreme terrorists where he was visiting either... Once again, this post is in no way meant to offend, insult or result in mental stress, I'm just simply trying to make a very basic, polite and wholesome family oriented point regarding this new photograph being presented to our friendly group of message board posters....

You do know that Obama isn't the FIRST American politician to go to a different country and dress like the natives, right?


Well, Obama is the first one to do it and keep a straight face while doing it... Obama looked a little too "comfortable" adorning the vile uniform of our most despised of enemies...
Is that really your argument? "He looked a little too comfortable?" Every picture they take  has a possibility of showing up in the media. I'm sure that Obama knew that picture existed. When other Politicians have visited different countries, including Hawaii and donned their native dress...I don't care if it was a Hawaiian shirt.
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: Mishmaat on February 25, 2008, 08:01:47 PM
Erica, STOP MAKING EXCUSES FOR THIS SACK OF SH*T. He's a Muslim. Period. End of discussion.
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: Just Erica on February 25, 2008, 08:10:18 PM
Erica, STOP MAKING EXCUSES FOR THIS SACK OF SH*T. He's a Muslim. Period. End of discussion.
You dont' tell me what to do, Yirmiyahu.  Also, like I said, until I see it on reputable news stations or read it in the paper and especially hear it out of his own mouth... he isn't a Muslim. He's a Chrisian.
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: KansasJew on February 25, 2008, 08:13:24 PM
Did she just tell a GLOBAL Moderator that? Are you sure you want to stay on this forum  :P

I think that may have pushed someone over the edge with this statement.
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: nessuno on February 25, 2008, 08:14:22 PM
ALL muSSlims support acts of terror even if they don't commit them personally.
That's a stupid comment, newman. That's like me saying that ALL whites support racism even if they aren't a part of the kkk and don't do anything to hurt anyone.
What a dumb comparison. There is NOTHING in any white religion compelling racism, but iSSlam itself DEMANDS acts of terror against non-muSSlims. They've been doing it for 1300 years!
I'm a non-muslim and according to you,I should have been terrorized by Muslims many times... sorry..hasn't happened. It is insane to basically say that ALL Muslims are in on the terror because they're muslims. Newman, that's priceless.
You have never been the victim of Muslim terrorist?  What country do you live in?  
  
  How many people died in the September 11 2001 attacks?  
  
  

Number of 9/11 Deaths
At least 2,985 people died in the September 11th attacks, including:


19 terrorists
2,966 victims
All but 13 people died on that day. Thirteen died of their wounds. One person has died since the attacks, of lung cancer. It is suspected to have been caused by all the debris from the Twin Towers.

There were 266 people on the four planes:


American Airlines Flight 11 (crashed into the WTC): 92 (including five terrorists)
United Airlines Flight 175 (crashed into the WTC): 65 (including five terrorists)
American Airlines Flight 77 (crashed into the Pentagon: 64 (including five terrorists)
United Flight 93 (downed in Shanksville, PA): 45 (including four terrorists)
There were 2,595 people in the World Trade Center and near it, including:


343 NYFD firefighters and paramedics
23 NYPD police officers
37 Port Authority police officers
1,402 people in Tower 1
614 people in Tower 2
658 people at one company, Cantor Fitzgerald
1,762 New York residents
674 New Jersey residents
1 NYFD firfighter killed by a man jumping off the top floors of the twin towers
There were 125 civilians and military personnel at the Pentagon.

1,609 people lost a spouse or partner on 9/11. More than 3,051 children lost parents.


While there were mostly Americans killed in this horrific attack one must mention (how ever small the group) that non servivors were from other countries:

327 foreign nationals also perished.

Argentina: 4 [1] Australia: 11 Bangladesh: 6 Belarus: 1 [2] Belgium: 1 Bermuda: 1 Brazil: 3 Canada: 27 [3][4] Chile: 2 China: 4 C�te d'Ivoire: 1 Colombia: 17 Democratic Republic of the Congo: 2 Dominican Republic: 1 El Salvador: 1 Ecuador: 3 France: 1 Germany: 11 Ghana: 2 Guyana: 3 Haiti: 2 Honduras:1 India: 1 Indonesia: 1 Ireland: 6 [5] Israel: 5 Italy: 4 Jamaica: 16 Japan: 26 Jordan: 2 [6][7][8] Lebanon: 3 Lithuania: 1 Malaysia: 7 Mexico: 16 Moldova: 1 Netherlands: 1 New Zealand: 2 Nigeria: 1 Panama: 2 [9] Peru: 5 Philippines: 16 Portugal: 3 [10] Poland: 1 Russia: 1 South Africa: 2 South Korea: 28


That is one example need more?
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: Daniel Ben Hanania on February 25, 2008, 08:14:57 PM
I JUST SAW THAT ON TV :)
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: Just Erica on February 25, 2008, 08:18:34 PM
ALL muSSlims support acts of terror even if they don't commit them personally.
That's a stupid comment, newman. That's like me saying that ALL whites support racism even if they aren't a part of the kkk and don't do anything to hurt anyone.
What a dumb comparison. There is NOTHING in any white religion compelling racism, but iSSlam itself DEMANDS acts of terror against non-muSSlims. They've been doing it for 1300 years!
I'm a non-muslim and according to you,I should have been terrorized by Muslims many times... sorry..hasn't happened. It is insane to basically say that ALL Muslims are in on the terror because they're muslims. Newman, that's priceless.
You have never been the victim of Muslim terrorist?  What country do you live in?  
  
  How many people died in the September 11 2001 attacks?  
  
  

Number of 9/11 Deaths
At least 2,985 people died in the September 11th attacks, including:


19 terrorists
2,966 victims
All but 13 people died on that day. Thirteen died of their wounds. One person has died since the attacks, of lung cancer. It is suspected to have been caused by all the debris from the Twin Towers.

There were 266 people on the four planes:


American Airlines Flight 11 (crashed into the WTC): 92 (including five terrorists)
United Airlines Flight 175 (crashed into the WTC): 65 (including five terrorists)
American Airlines Flight 77 (crashed into the Pentagon: 64 (including five terrorists)
United Flight 93 (downed in Shanksville, PA): 45 (including four terrorists)
There were 2,595 people in the World Trade Center and near it, including:


343 NYFD firefighters and paramedics
23 NYPD police officers
37 Port Authority police officers
1,402 people in Tower 1
614 people in Tower 2
658 people at one company, Cantor Fitzgerald
1,762 New York residents
674 New Jersey residents
1 NYFD firfighter killed by a man jumping off the top floors of the twin towers
There were 125 civilians and military personnel at the Pentagon.

1,609 people lost a spouse or partner on 9/11. More than 3,051 children lost parents.


While there were mostly Americans killed in this horrific attack one must mention (how ever small the group) that non servivors were from other countries:

327 foreign nationals also perished.

Argentina: 4 [1] Australia: 11 Bangladesh: 6 Belarus: 1 [2] Belgium: 1 Bermuda: 1 Brazil: 3 Canada: 27 [3][4] Chile: 2 China: 4 C�te d'Ivoire: 1 Colombia: 17 Democratic Republic of the Congo: 2 Dominican Republic: 1 El Salvador: 1 Ecuador: 3 France: 1 Germany: 11 Ghana: 2 Guyana: 3 Haiti: 2 Honduras:1 India: 1 Indonesia: 1 Ireland: 6 [5] Israel: 5 Italy: 4 Jamaica: 16 Japan: 26 Jordan: 2 [6][7][8] Lebanon: 3 Lithuania: 1 Malaysia: 7 Mexico: 16 Moldova: 1 Netherlands: 1 New Zealand: 2 Nigeria: 1 Panama: 2 [9] Peru: 5 Philippines: 16 Portugal: 3 [10] Poland: 1 Russia: 1 South Africa: 2 South Korea: 28
That is one example need more?

Bullcat... I ALREADY MENTIONED HOW I FELT ABOUT THE TERRORISTS ATTACKS and estimated the victims to be around 3000.  I SAID THAT I HAVE PERSONALLY NEVER BEEN ATTACKED BY A TERRORIST. PERSONALLY!!! I was affected by the terrorist attacks but I dont' know the pain that people who actually LOST SOMEONE DURING THE ATTACKS feel so it wouldnt' be fair for me to say that I've been personally attacked.

THanks for taking the time to post all of the fatalities in terrorist attacks. Its a sad thing that this is even happening.
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: Just Erica on February 25, 2008, 08:20:49 PM
Did she just tell a GLOBAL Moderator that? Are you sure you want to stay on this forum  :P

I think that may have pushed someone over the edge with this statement.
So since I'm on this site I'm supposed to agree with whatever the mods say? Are you kidding me? I'm sorry. I'm not going to do that. Wait.. what am I apologizing for? I'm not sorry for speaking my mind nor am i ashamed for NOT agreeing with someone here.
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on February 25, 2008, 08:31:31 PM
Erica's attitude is typical.

I don't know why anyone here expects her to respond in a way that satisfies them.

If they do they need a checkup, from the neck up.

But to ascribe some sense of "absolute authority which can in no way be questioned" to the "Global Moderators" seems to me like a convenient way for those who disagree with Erica to "make a case" that her main insult is to the "Global Moderator" (hallowed be thy name), so that they themselves won't have to debate her directly or "take her to task" all on their own.

Never rely on a "Global Moderator" to do for you what you yourself lack the will to do.

A "Global Moderator" is a forum member who volunteers to oversee a section of the forum.

I even dislike the term...it sounds too much like "Globalist" to me.

Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: nessuno on February 25, 2008, 08:35:42 PM
ALL muSSlims support acts of terror even if they don't commit them personally.
That's a stupid comment, newman. That's like me saying that ALL whites support racism even if they aren't a part of the kkk and don't do anything to hurt anyone.
What a dumb comparison. There is NOTHING in any white religion compelling racism, but iSSlam itself DEMANDS acts of terror against non-muSSlims. They've been doing it for 1300 years!
I'm a non-muslim and according to you,I should have been terrorized by Muslims many times... sorry..hasn't happened. It is insane to basically say that ALL Muslims are in on the terror because they're muslims. Newman, that's priceless.
You have never been the victim of Muslim terrorist?  What country do you live in?  
  
  How many people died in the September 11 2001 attacks?  
  
  

Number of 9/11 Deaths
At least 2,985 people died in the September 11th attacks, including:


19 terrorists
2,966 victims
All but 13 people died on that day. Thirteen died of their wounds. One person has died since the attacks, of lung cancer. It is suspected to have been caused by all the debris from the Twin Towers.

There were 266 people on the four planes:


American Airlines Flight 11 (crashed into the WTC): 92 (including five terrorists)
United Airlines Flight 175 (crashed into the WTC): 65 (including five terrorists)
American Airlines Flight 77 (crashed into the Pentagon: 64 (including five terrorists)
United Flight 93 (downed in Shanksville, PA): 45 (including four terrorists)
There were 2,595 people in the World Trade Center and near it, including:


343 NYFD firefighters and paramedics
23 NYPD police officers
37 Port Authority police officers
1,402 people in Tower 1
614 people in Tower 2
658 people at one company, Cantor Fitzgerald
1,762 New York residents
674 New Jersey residents
1 NYFD firfighter killed by a man jumping off the top floors of the twin towers
There were 125 civilians and military personnel at the Pentagon.

1,609 people lost a spouse or partner on 9/11. More than 3,051 children lost parents.


While there were mostly Americans killed in this horrific attack one must mention (how ever small the group) that non servivors were from other countries:

327 foreign nationals also perished.

Argentina: 4 [1] Australia: 11 Bangladesh: 6 Belarus: 1 [2] Belgium: 1 Bermuda: 1 Brazil: 3 Canada: 27 [3][4] Chile: 2 China: 4 C�te d'Ivoire: 1 Colombia: 17 Democratic Republic of the Congo: 2 Dominican Republic: 1 El Salvador: 1 Ecuador: 3 France: 1 Germany: 11 Ghana: 2 Guyana: 3 Haiti: 2 Honduras:1 India: 1 Indonesia: 1 Ireland: 6 [5] Israel: 5 Italy: 4 Jamaica: 16 Japan: 26 Jordan: 2 [6][7][8] Lebanon: 3 Lithuania: 1 Malaysia: 7 Mexico: 16 Moldova: 1 Netherlands: 1 New Zealand: 2 Nigeria: 1 Panama: 2 [9] Peru: 5 Philippines: 16 Portugal: 3 [10] Poland: 1 Russia: 1 South Africa: 2 South Korea: 28
That is one example need more?

Bullcat... I ALREADY MENTIONED HOW I FELT ABOUT THE TERRORISTS ATTACKS and estimated the victims to be around 3000.  I SAID THAT I HAVE PERSONALLY NEVER BEEN ATTACKED BY A TERRORIST. PERSONALLY!!! I was affected by the terrorist attacks but I dont' know the pain that people who actually LOST SOMEONE DURING THE ATTACKS feel so it wouldnt' be fair for me to say that I've been personally attacked.

THanks for taking the time to post all of the fatalities in terrorist attacks. Its a sad thing that this is even happening.
You don't consider terrorism against the United States a personal attack?
Does a bomb,heaven forbid, have to drop on someone's own house for it to be personal?
I think the victim's families would want you to feel it was personal attack and to be as outraged as they are.
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: Mishmaat on February 25, 2008, 09:15:01 PM
Erica's attitude is typical.

I don't know why anyone here expects her to respond in a way that satisfies them.

If they do they need a checkup, from the neck up.

But to ascribe some sense of "absolute authority which can in no way be questioned" to the "Global Moderators" seems to me like a convenient way for those who disagree with Erica to "make a case" that her main insult is to the "Global Moderator" (hallowed be thy name), so that they themselves won't have to debate her directly or "take her to task" all on their own.

Never rely on a "Global Moderator" to do for you what you yourself lack the will to do.

A "Global Moderator" is a forum member who volunteers to oversee a section of the forum.

I even dislike the term...it sounds too much like "Globalist" to me.



I don't get an ego trip from this at all. Erica can say whatever she wants. Let her live in her own ignorance.
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: Cyberella on February 25, 2008, 10:09:05 PM
I'm pretty sure I've seen pictures of Bush wearing a kippah for political reasons. That doesn't make Bush Jewish. The fact is this photo, while very entertaining, does not in itself prove anything about Obama's religious beliefs.

I do think Obama is a Muslim, but this photo isn't strong evidence for that.

True, but I think it gave the dumb American public just a faint inkling that there may be some truth to the Muslim rumor to see him in Muslim garb.

.
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: Cyberella on February 26, 2008, 09:09:38 AM
What do the rest of you think about this?
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: newman on February 26, 2008, 09:50:31 AM
What do the rest of you think about this?

Like I said...........

1/ Black-muSSlim-nazi father
2/ muSSlim-nazi school
3/ pilgemage to the muSSlim-nazi old country
4/ Seen wearing muSSlim-nazi clothes
5/ Endorsed by muSSlim-nazi farraKKKan


Anyone denying that o'bummer is a muSSlim might as well say the earth is flat.
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: Ulli on February 26, 2008, 01:39:56 PM
What do the rest of you think about this?

Like I said...........

1/ Black-muSSlim-nazi father
2/ muSSlim-nazi school
3/ pilgemage to the muSSlim-nazi old country
4/ Seen wearing muSSlim-nazi clothes
5/ Endorsed by muSSlim-nazi farraKKKan


Anyone denying that o'bummer is a muSSlim might as well say the earth is flat.
True
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: whywhywhy on February 26, 2008, 02:39:58 PM
In the present world it is only proof that he has an "open mind"
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: briann on February 26, 2008, 03:05:32 PM
What do the rest of you think about this?

Like I said...........

1/ Black-muSSlim-nazi father
2/ muSSlim-nazi school
3/ pilgemage to the muSSlim-nazi old country
4/ Seen wearing muSSlim-nazi clothes
5/ Endorsed by muSSlim-nazi farraKKKan


Anyone denying that o'bummer is a muSSlim might as well say the earth is flat.
True
DONT FORGET.
He was also spotted going to an Indonesian Mosque on several occasions.  (This is confirmed by the imam who works there)


Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: TruthSpreader on February 26, 2008, 08:15:12 PM
Wow, great find.  And he says he's not a Muslim.  Lying B   stard. 
I'm reaching a little but what are civilian women visiting a Muslim country told to do if they want to walk the streets? The answer: "WEAR A HIJAB!" Obama is in Africa in that picture, respecting his father's culture and the people's way of dressing. Besides, he looks as if he's trying it on.

That's the most pathetic, p*ss weak excuse you've come up with to date. It's right up there with...."I was just helping that sheep through the fence". ::)

I agree with you newman and Erica, just admit it, you're sucking up to Obama.
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: Just Erica on February 26, 2008, 08:36:05 PM
Wow, great find.  And he says he's not a Muslim.  Lying B   stard. 
I'm reaching a little but what are civilian women visiting a Muslim country told to do if they want to walk the streets? The answer: "WEAR A HIJAB!" Obama is in Africa in that picture, respecting his father's culture and the people's way of dressing. Besides, he looks as if he's trying it on.

That's the most pathetic, p*ss weak excuse you've come up with to date. It's right up there with...."I was just helping that sheep through the fence". ::)

I agree with you newman and Erica, just admit it, you're sucking up to Obama.
Sucking up to Obama? LOL The man doesn't even know me. lol Plus, I don't have to suck up to anyone.
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: Cyberella on February 26, 2008, 09:14:51 PM

"DONT FORGET.
He was also spotted going to an Indonesian Mosque on several occasions.  (This is confirmed by the imam who works there)"



Where did you get that? Never heard that. Do you mean when he was a child? Link?
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: Cyberella on February 26, 2008, 11:01:17 PM
I thought it was considered heresy for a non-muslim to wear muslim garb and that there were severe penalties for so doing. Does anyone know for sure?

Recommended reading:
http://www.amazon.com/Unholy-Alliance-Radical-Islam-American/dp/0895260263/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1204062907&sr=8-2
Title: By the way, the IRS is investigatin Hussein's church- nyuk nyuk!
Post by: Cyberella on February 26, 2008, 11:28:51 PM
 


The IRS is investigating the United Church of Christ over a speech Sen. Barack Obama gave at its national meeting last year after he became a candidate for president, the denomination said Tuesday.


Obama, an Illinois Democrat, belongs to the 1.2 million-member Protestant group through his Chicago congregation.


In a letter the denomination received Monday, the IRS said "reasonable belief exists" that the circumstances surrounding the speech violated restrictions on political activity for tax-exempt organizations. The denomination has denied any wrongdoing.


Obama, a member of Trinity United Church of Christ, spoke about faith and public life at the denomination's June 2007 General Synod in Hartford, Conn.

This is so funny (Ted Kennedy screws up Barack's name) LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APx2YJ-_jos
Title: GET A LOAD OF WHAT 'AN EXPAT IN SOUTHEAST ASIA' HAS TO SAY!!!
Post by: Cyberella on February 27, 2008, 09:41:46 AM
An American Expat in Southeast Asia

"...If anyone is still puzzled about the facts, in fact I have never been a Muslim. We had to send CNN to look at the school that I attended in Indonesia where kids were wearing short pants and listening to ipods to indicate that this was not a madrassa but was a secular school in Indonesia..." ~ Barack Obama, 24 February 2008


In a recent episode of Saturday Night Live that featured a parody of a Clinton Obama debate, a faux Campbell Brown chirped "Like nearly everyone in the news media, the three of us are totally in the tank for Senator Obama". Funny? Yes, but this might have hit a bit too close to home.

Surely Barack Obama wouldn't lie now would he? But did the Obama camp really send CNN to Indonesia? Are we to believe that when the accusations of Barack Obama attending a madrassa as a child first broke on Fox News last year that Sam Feist's reply to the Obama camp would be "Please relax. You furnish the money, I'll furnish the debunk."

Like many Americans, my parents raised me to believe that it is the truth that matters. It is. Network news broadcasts and newspaper reports have the power to shape our perceptions, consciously and subliminally and as consumers we naturally expect a bit of integrity on behalf of the networks and media outlets. We expect that opinion and commentary are clearly identified as such. What we don't expect is that the news has been manufactured or bought and paid for. That CNN would assist Obama in deceiving the American people is downright despicable and I think if what Obama is saying is true, then both CNN and Obama owe the American people an apology.

For Barack Obama, the facts are that he is a liar and no one, not CNN or Sam Feist is ever going to change that fact. There is no amount of spin, flooding the internet or debunking that is ever going to change the fact that Barack Hussein Obama was born a Muslim and that he practiced Islam as a child, no more than I can change the fact that I was born and baptized a Catholic and attended Catholic school as a child.

Barack Obama often speaks of hope and change, but for a man that truly aspires to lead our nation, hope and change will simply not suffice, there can be no dignity without honesty.



24 January 2007
CNN Calls The Kettle Black



Watching the catfight between CNN, Fox, Insight and the New York Times with everyone dogpiling on Insight Magazine and then praising their own merits is almost enough to make someone ill.

Tracing the story and acting as the referee, the New York Times reports that CNN's political director Sam Feist had seen Insight's story being discussed on "Fox and Friends" and then decided to jet John Vause to Jakarta from Beijing to follow up on a "holy-cow political story"

The article then goes on to say:

"The president of CNN US, Jon Klein, said that his network’s report was “not a response to Fox per se, though they did seem to relish repeating the Insight-reported rumor without bothering to — or being able to — ascertain the facts.”

And now this is where it gets funny... Just what did CNN do to ascertain the facts?

CNN's so-called debunking in in itself a fluff piece with it's own factual inacuracies and appears in it's closing to be nothing more than a mouthpiece for the Obama camp.

CNN didn't bother to see the other school that Obama attended and if they would have they would have found out that the dates and much of the information Obama has provided is not completely factual.

For a source CNN interviews a youthful Bandug Winadijanto who claims to have been a classmate of Obama's and yet mysteriously he seems to have evaded giving any interviews to the Indonesian media for the last several months. It is almost as if he appeared out of nowhere just in time for John Vause's interview.

I find it surprising that CNN didn't talk to Obama's classmates Rony Amir or Emirsyah Satar the CEO of Garuda Indonesia who have been describing to the Indonesian media how Obama was a such a very religious and devout Muslim.


In closing the report quotes Obama as if to present it as fact:

"Obama has noted in his two books, "Dreams From My Father" and "The Audacity of Hope," that he spent two years in a Muslim school and another two years in a Catholic school while living in Indonesia from age 6 to 10."

So there you have it folks. No need to do any real investigative reporting of your own, just repeat what Obama has said and present it as fact.



31 January 2007
Obama and the Audacity of CNN



"That's the difference between talking about news and reporting it. You send a reporter, check the facts, and you decide at home."



Those are the words of CNN's Anderson Cooper described by Fox as the "Paris Hilton of television news". CNN would have you believe that they actually investigated this story and checked the facts in their reporting with their sophmoric attempt to debunk both Fox News and Insight Magazine.

On the ground in Jakarta, CNN's John Vause paints a rosy almost pristine picture of what Obama's past primary school in Indonesia is like, taking time to even note the Western-style clothes that the students are wearing as they play outside the school.

To an American viewer one might imagine that this school is close to being like any other school in school in America or the West, having a diverse and multicultural student body who enjoy religious freedom.

CNN's so-called debunking seems to be primarily focused on the statements of two individuals at the school, who are overly eager to paint a utopian picture specifically designed for foreign consumption of what their school is like now in what can best be described as nothing more than a fantasy for the misguided and naive proponents of multiculturism.

This hideously deceptive picture of what primary school is like in Indonesia leaves us wondering here if this entire "debunking" was actually staged or whether CNN simply has their own agenda and is not as impartial as they claim to be.

For anyone truly familiar with Indonesia, the following statement will give you a chill down your spine:

"This is a public school. We don't focus on religion," Hardi Priyono, deputy headmaster of the Basuki school, told Vause. "In our daily lives, we try to respect religion, but we don't give preferential treatment."

If CNN would have done their report on a Friday, they would have found that all of the students in this government school both muslim and non-muslim alike are all required to dress in Islamic clothing. It would seem that Mr. Hardi Priyono does not consider this to be preferential treatment.

Avoiding any high profile names of individuals or classmates of Obama's named in this blog or who have speaking to the Indonesian media for the last several months. CNN suddenly finds a previously unknown classmate of Obama's who claims that the school has hardly changed in the last 35 years.

"Vause also interviewed one of Obama's Basuki classmates, Bandug Winadijanto, who claims that not a lot has changed at the school since the two men were pupils."


Apparently neither Hardi Priyono or Bandug Winadijanto seemed to remember the Indonesian Constitution recently being amended in 2003.

"...MPR approved changes to the Constitution that mandated that the Government increase "faith and piety" in education. This decision, seen as a compromise to satisfy Islamist parties, set the scene for an education bill signed into law in 2003 that restricted religious freedom by forcing elementary and secondary school students to undergo religious instruction, sometimes in a religion other than their own..."

US State Department - International Religious Freedom Report 2005


Besuki Primary School is not a madrassa (religious school), it is considered a public school, but if this is what a so called public school is like in Indonesia, it makes you almost wonder what an Indonesian madrassa is really like.


CNN's reporting which was devoid of any real investigation in this story was both misleading, deceptive and appallingly irresponsible. Not only did CNN fail to report the story honestly and accurately, they failed to present a clear and concise picture to the American people of what primary school education is like in Indonesia.

The repercussions from CNN's irresponsible and shoddy reporting have the potential to be far reaching. Both government and non-government agencies working in Indonesia who depend on foreign funds and have been working hard to convince Indonesia's political parties to have and ensure respect for religious freedom and to embrace further democratic reforms will now find it more dificult to raise donations and funds from a placated Western audience who now believe that Indonesia's reform is farther ahead than it actually is.

Ironically it is Indonesia's children who stand to suffer for CNN's irresponsible reporting and lack of journalistic integrity.



Edit:

The New York Times piles on both Fox and Insight in an editorial entitled "Feeding Frenzy For a Big Story Even If It's False"

To be fair, I have emailed both CNN and the New York Times outlining the points made here and the "Debunking of CNN's Debunk". Busy pursuing their own agenda, I don't expect a response.

Further, I enquired why no one had bothered to investigate what the school was like during the time Obama attended. Obviously that was really what relevant. Basically CNN denunked nothing.


http://laotze.blogspot.com/2007/01/obama-and-audacity-of-cnn-thats.html
Title: Re: GET A LOAD OF WHAT 'AN EXPAT IN SOUTHEAST ASIA' HAS TO SAY!!!
Post by: Just Erica on February 27, 2008, 09:50:27 AM


Further, I enquired why no one had bothered to investigate what the school was like during the time Obama attended. Obviously that was really what relevant. Basically CNN denunked nothing.

http://laotze.blogspot.com/2007/01/obama-and-audacity-of-cnn-thats.html

Cyberella... Here is your proof.


http://youtube.com/watch?v=6elrghVEQko

http://youtube.com/watch?v=0pMgsbMcpOE
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: dibblah on February 27, 2008, 10:56:36 AM
OK, Lets look at the facts...

Obama says hes not a muzzie but his Dad is/was. In muzzie society the male is dominant and religion is passed on to the sons. He supports Farrakan. He wear muzzie dress.His Kenyan contact who he supported in an election promised to impose Islam... -The evidence is fairly compelling....

What if this is the biggest and most succesful example of muzzie Takiyah ever perpetrated?

-It is pretty scary...
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: Just Erica on February 27, 2008, 11:05:23 AM
OK, Lets look at the facts...

Obama says hes not a muzzie but his Dad is/was. In muzzie society the male is dominant and religion is passed on to the sons. He supports Farrakan. He wear muzzie dress.His Kenyan contact who he supported in an election promised to impose Islam... -The evidence is fairly compelling....

What if this is the biggest and most succesful example of muzzie Takiyah ever perpetrated?

-It is pretty scary...

Everything you just typed can be debunked here...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=X_YOOUa_HLk
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: dibblah on February 27, 2008, 11:10:37 AM
Fair comment Just Erica, if what he says is the truth.

The problem is Takiyah is the Koranic name for deception of the Kuffir; in order to achieve the muslim goal: the global domination of Islam.

-I sincerely hope he is telling the truth....time will tell.
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on February 27, 2008, 03:35:00 PM
I'm reaching a little but what are civilian women visiting a Muslim country told to do if they want to walk the streets? The answer: "WEAR A HIJAB!" Obama is in Africa in that picture, respecting his father's culture and the people's way of dressing. Besides, he looks as if he's trying it on.
Hey genius... Kenya is not a sharia country. You are not required to dress that way in Kenya. Kenya is a nominally Christian nation. Moreover, Muslims do not demand that all non-Muslims entering their presence dress like Muslims. Nice try, babybutcher.
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: Johnson Brown on February 27, 2008, 04:08:53 PM
But in this liberal loving, guilt ridden white world it's ok with anything a black man running for office does.
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: Just Erica on February 27, 2008, 05:48:43 PM
I'm reaching a little but what are civilian women visiting a Muslim country told to do if they want to walk the streets? The answer: "WEAR A HIJAB!" Obama is in Africa in that picture, respecting his father's culture and the people's way of dressing. Besides, he looks as if he's trying it on.
Hey genius... Kenya is not a sharia country. You are not required to dress that way in Kenya. Kenya is a nominally Christian nation. Moreover, Muslims do not demand that all non-Muslims entering their presence dress like Muslims. Nice try, babybutcher.
After watching the news yesterday, it was found that the picture wasn't taken in Kenya...it was taken in Somalia. Thanks for the misinformation, guys. I come here to see this picture and the label is that he's in Kenya basically, cavorting with his "Nazi Muslim family Members" when that wasn't even where the picture was taken.


And about non-muslims wearing muslim attire in Muslim countries. I've seen it for myself. Female reporters, in order to walk about Iraq have to wear a hijab or something covering their face to show respect to the Muslim culture.

And CF, a word of advice. Treat people how you want to be treated. If there was an ignore button for the forums, you'd surely be on the list...at the very top. I'm no babybutcher.
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: WALK STRONG on February 27, 2008, 06:05:27 PM


(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i311/NikiNeilsen/Obamathemuslim-1.jpg)


Why does he have toilet paper wrapped around his head?
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: WALK STRONG on February 27, 2008, 06:07:33 PM
Question for Erica.

Would you object to an American Presidential candidate of german parentage wearing a nazi uniform on a visit to germany ?
The Nazi uniform isn't part of German culture! The Nazi uniform is representative of the evil doings of an idiot,whom I think was actually Satan in the flesh before he off-ed himself.

You are VERY naive. Sadly, you represent the mindset of to many Americans. Wake up. & NO, I am not a racist.
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: Just Erica on February 27, 2008, 06:09:58 PM
Wow, great find.  And he says he's not a Muslim.  Lying B   stard. 
I'm reaching a little but what are civilian women visiting a Muslim country told to do if they want to walk the streets? The answer: "WEAR A HIJAB!" Obama is in Africa in that picture, respecting his father's culture and the people's way of dressing. Besides, he looks as if he's trying it on.

That's the most pathetic, p*ss weak excuse you've come up with to date. It's right up there with...."I was just helping that sheep through the fence". ::)
You are an a%&, newman. And you're evil, to boot. I only offered my opinion. You need to grow the hell up.


Imerica, you are way out of line. Show some respect to our second highest poster and Honorable Winged Member.


Yacov, I'm not going to apologize to newman or anyone else who have unfairly insulted me because I don't agree with them. Not even YOU. Frankly there's nothing 'honorable' about newman. He's full of racial hatred, and you're not far behind him.
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: WALK STRONG on February 27, 2008, 06:12:34 PM
Question for Erica.

Would you object to an American Presidential candidate of german parentage wearing a nazi uniform on a visit to germany ?
The Nazi uniform isn't part of German culture! The Nazi uniform is representative of the evil doings of an idiot,whom I think was actually Satan in the flesh before he off-ed himself.

I didn't ask if it was part of german culture.

I ask again, is it OK for a german-American politician to try on a nazi uniform?
YOU DIDN't ASK THAT QUESTION, NEWMAN. And like I said the Nazi uniform isn't the same as African garb. So the answer is NO. It would be improper for a presidential candidate (OR ANYONE) to wear a NAZI uniform in Germany or even outside of his home. It is NOT improper for someone to wear African garb or even, or even Muslim garb... those clothing choices aren't related to evil people in general. You need help.


You don't know how to read.

And those aren't African garbs. They are Muslim garbs.


It is African Muslim garb. It still proves nothing.

What is the difference between "African Muslim garb" and just plain "Muslim garb"??

Muslim is Muslim. What is the deal, so it is okay now, because it is "Afrian Muslim"?

Why are you justifying the guy?
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: WALK STRONG on February 27, 2008, 06:26:49 PM

[/quote]I would have to be wouldn't I, to be constantly beaten up everyday...but no, I'm not masochistic. I'm here because I'm upset with the way some people see black people. I absolutely hate hearing that there are some people in the world who think that blacks (in general) are jiggaboos, sambos, apes, AA hires, and such but don't know ONE thing about good black culture. I think that my positivity will never be seen as positive. As long as I'm here,, no matter what i say, or how I say it, I will always be an evil black- supporting , nazi muslim loving black woman in the eyes of people who don't like opinionated black people on their website.
[/quote]

Listen, I have lived various places. I am NOT racist. At one time, I lived in a place that was 90% black. I know a man, that is black, in his fifties, he has integrity, wisdom, and common sense. If he were to run for President, I would vote for him,
G-d made blacks, just like he made whites, etc.

G-d even made the Arab, I have no problem with an Arab. HOWEVER a Muslim, an Islam, Yes, I have a problem with them. I don't care if that Muslim/Islam is black, white, pink, purple, whatever. He is STILL a Muslim/Islam.  He is dangerous.

This is not a color, nor a race issue. It is a terrorist issue. It is protecting our country, our people, and what we stand for.

There are only three catagories in the Koran. Jew, Christian, and Infidel. It says nothing of kill the whites or blacks, etc.

We only divide ourselves when we make this a RACE issue.

I have no problem with Obama's color. What I have a problem WITH is he is a Muslim. I happen to be on the Muslim/Islam hit list.


After the fact that he is a Muslim, I have a problem with what he stands for-that being nothing. I do NOT like his political stance. I am voting for Mike Huckabee.

People need to wake up.
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: Just Erica on February 27, 2008, 06:52:06 PM

I would have to be wouldn't I, to be constantly beaten up everyday...but no, I'm not masochistic. I'm here because I'm upset with the way some people see black people. I absolutely hate hearing that there are some people in the world who think that blacks (in general) are jiggaboos, sambos, apes, AA hires, and such but don't know ONE thing about good black culture. I think that my positivity will never be seen as positive. As long as I'm here,, no matter what i say, or how I say it, I will always be an evil black- supporting , nazi muslim loving black woman in the eyes of people who don't like opinionated black people on their website.
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Listen, I have lived various places. I am NOT racist. At one time, I lived in a place that was 90% black. I know a man, that is black, in his fifties, he has integrity, wisdom, and common sense. If he were to run for President, I would vote for him,
G-d made blacks, just like he made whites, etc.

G-d even made the Arab, I have no problem with an Arab. HOWEVER a Muslim, an Islam, Yes, I have a problem with them. I don't care if that Muslim/Islam is black, white, pink, purple, whatever. He is STILL a Muslim/Islam.  He is dangerous.

This is not a color, nor a race issue. It is a terrorist issue. It is protecting our country, our people, and what we stand for.

There are only three catagories in the Koran. Jew, Christian, and Infidel. It says nothing of kill the whites or blacks, etc.

We only divide ourselves when we make this a RACE issue.

I have no problem with Obama's color. What I have a problem WITH is he is a Muslim. I happen to be on the Muslim/Islam hit list.


After the fact that he is a Muslim, I have a problem with what he stands for-that being nothing. I do NOT like his political stance. I am voting for Mike Huckabee.

People need to wake up.
[/quote]People need to make up their own minds.
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: kellymaureen on February 27, 2008, 08:22:58 PM


(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i311/NikiNeilsen/Obamathemuslim-1.jpg)


Why does he have toilet paper wrapped around his head?


He brought his own, we all know that mohammad instructed muslims to use pebbles lol i guess osama isnt a very good muslim ;)
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: JTFFan on February 28, 2008, 12:29:42 AM


(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i311/NikiNeilsen/Obamathemuslim-1.jpg)


Why does he have toilet paper wrapped around his head?


He brought his own, we all know that mohammad instructed muslims to use pebbles lol i guess osama isnt a very good muslim ;)

lol, guess not ;D
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: Cyberella on February 28, 2008, 05:21:25 PM


He brought his own, we all know that mohammad instructed muslims to use pebbles lol i guess osama isnt a very good muslim ;)
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lol, guess not ;D
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I read that Muzzies clean their behinds with their left hand, so they always use their right hand to eat. Stupid animals. LOL
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: Cyberella on March 03, 2008, 01:04:37 PM
But in this liberal loving, guilt ridden white world it's ok with anything a black man running for office does.

Love the cartoon.
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: abdithefaithful on March 04, 2008, 09:08:53 AM
hmm, still no photos surfacing of a youthful Obama in an Americanized cub scout, boy scout or 4H uniform, hmm, I wonder why?....
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: dibblah on March 04, 2008, 08:37:22 PM
Hey genius..

I know that, ffs, I grew up in Kenya for 3 years and went to St. Mary's School outside Lavington Green apx 10 miles outside Niarobi.- This was in the late 70's and early 80's when rod stewart was still insisting that blondes have more fun and love on the rocks by ND was still a cocktail.... :D

The reason I made a comment of shock about Obama was exactly that...This was a tribal country until recently. However... muzzies are making their mark felt here and are trying to fill the void that the political and social upheaval has caused. This is a ripe ground for "muzziefication" look at the whole of east africa, including Tanzania...muzzied... to the hilt. It's a shame in this instance it is Kenya that is the target as it has managed to (up until lately) to pay lip service to democracy (albeit with a wholly corrupt and self serving/enrichment government) and to try to bring an African nation out from the dark ages.
Title: Re: IN A SANE WORLD, THIS PHOTO OF OBAMA WOULD BE THE KISS OF DEATH
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on March 05, 2008, 08:47:57 AM
Re:  "...Why does he have toilet paper wrapped around his head?..."

Because he's getting ready to clean the "Turkish toilet"!