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Israel => Save Israel => Topic started by: Dominater96 on March 12, 2008, 05:00:15 PM
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In a recent interview with Community magazine, Mccain was asked this :
"Many say that Jonathan Pollard, who passed secrets to Israel 25 years ago, recieved a disproportionate punishment. Would you consider pardoning him?"
His answer -"No. He was a traitor. And I understand the Jewish community and the Israeli community. He broke our laws. Im familiar with the pollard case intimately. He has to be reminded time aftr time".
Another question he was asked -"What about Ronald Monteperto, who passed secrets to China, and recieved three months in jail? seems unfair"
McCains answer -" Because someone didnt get the right punishment, doesnt mean I am going to pardon someone, clearly. I understand. Ive had conversations with Benjamin Netanyahu and Ariel Sharon on this.
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For a person who has been in politics so long McCain really handles issues like a new kid on the block. In some ways this might be good because McCain may actually be speaking whats on his mind where a more deceitful person may tell the interviewer what they want to hear. Be that as it may the fact that Pollard has spent so many years in prison while others that did far worse damage to American security get slaps on the wrist says volumes.
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I haven't heard nice things about Jonathan Pollard. If Ronald Olive is right, this guy Pollard went to Pakistan and other countries and tried to sell them information about the U.S before he gave it to Israel.
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I'm assuming people here are correct to support him, but I don't know enough about the Pollard case to really have an opinion. Do you guys know of a link or a video where I can go to see JTF's position on what happened and maybe some more explanation about why it was ok for him to do that? I've only heard bad things and I see everyone here is totally in support of Pollard, so I'm thinking I may have gotten some bad information and I'd like to see the right information. I'd like to be able to understand more.
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I haven't heard nice things about Jonathan Pollard. If Ronald Olive is right, this guy Pollard went to Pakistan and other countries and tried to sell them information about the U.S before he gave it to Israel.
You are an Anti-Semite. Consider yourself warned.
Pollard is a very patriotic American, Israeli, and Jew. He is a hero.
What in the world did I say that is anti-semitic?
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i'm sure if we asked him about JTF and Meir Kahane, he would say the same thing.
He's a liberal...and in this election, it will be a liberal versus a communist/socialist...
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All I can say is that even though what he did was heroic for Israel and the rest of us, he broke the law. however, his punishment is not equal to those who have done the same thing or worse...that's the injustice!
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I once read some very vicious things about what Pollard supposedly did, but I think they were written by an anti-Semite so they are probably not be true. I know Chaim supports him and that is pretty much enough for me to be in his corner.
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All I can say is that even though what he did was heroic for Israel and the rest of us, he broke the law. however, his punishment is not equal to those who have done the same thing or worse...that's the injustice!
He didn't break the law. The information he gave was supposed to be given to Israel according to a treaty signed between the two countries. The self-hating American leaders didn't honor the treaty.
where did you learn about this? interesting...
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I haven't heard nice things about Jonathan Pollard. If Ronald Olive is right, this guy Pollard went to Pakistan and other countries and tried to sell them information about the U.S before he gave it to Israel.
You are an Anti-Semite. Consider yourself warned.
Pollard is a very patriotic American, Israeli, and Jew. He is a hero.
What in the world did I say that is anti-semitic?
Being against Jonathan Pollard equals Anti-Semitism.
Who said I was against Jonathan Pollard? You are obviously being obtuse on purpose. Quit your personal vendetta against me.
This is what I posted:
I haven't heard nice things about Jonathan Pollard. If Ronald Olive is right, this guy Pollard went to Pakistan and other countries and tried to sell them information about the U.S before he gave it to Israel.
Ronald Olive is an author who wrote a book on Pollard. In it he says Pollard offered this same information he gave to Israel to Pakistan first. Till this day no one knows exactly what he revealed.
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He shouldn't have been spying on us.
Loose lips sink ships.
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John Mccain, Yimach Shmo vezichro. May cancer metastasize on his genitals as well as his face. What this country has done to pollard is a massive crime against humanity and will lead to this countries destruction. Also Yacov, you are absolutely correct for admonishing anyone who has the chutzpa to attack and slander a heroic saint like pollard. The man has sat in prison for so much of his life simply because he didn't want jews to suffer another holocaust. I can't even comprehend what kind of monster would slander and see any fault in pollard. Anyone who even makes a joke against pollard should be banned immediately at the very least. Lets hope g-d takes over from there and gives that individual what he really deserves.
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Yimach Shemo VeZichro to that Jew hater!
That is why we cannot support him even to defeat Osama. Even though the odds are against us, we need to push for another option. Until someone presents a better candidate, I am voting for Bernhard Geotz as president. Actually wait. Perhaps we should vote for Pollard.
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I can understand why the politicians are against J. Pollard. No politician wants to support a guy who spied on America, regardless of the consequences like if the act helped the world in the long run by bombing Iraq's nuclear reactors. It's bad for their political career as people don't see past the spy part. And Yacov, I think if someone gives documents labeled "secret" or "classified" to another country, it's considered spying regardless if the information should have been shared. The only hope we have is someone who is at the end of his career and retiring who might pardon Pollard for serving time way beyond what he deserved or if Israel demands his release as a firm prerequisite to even talk to the US or the EU.
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I think that pardoning pollard would increase the politicians standing among evangelical christians. Only muslim chayos will be upset about a pollard pardon.
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All I can say is that even though what he did was heroic for Israel and the rest of us, he broke the law. however, his punishment is not equal to those who have done the same thing or worse...that's the injustice!
He didn't break the law. The information he gave was supposed to be given to Israel according to a treaty signed between the two countries. The self-hating American leaders didn't honor the treaty.
where did you learn about this? interesting...
Yup I read that the Americans were purposely withholding some information they had agreed to share which included Syrian chemical weapons and that one of the antisemites withholding (and who later tried to get Pollard put away for life) said to keep that info secret and something like, 'the Jews will all have a fit if they find out about chemical weapons threat'
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I think we should stop looking to American politicians to free Pollard and start blaming Israel. If Israel really wanted to they could free Pollard. They simply have to kidnap Condoleeeeesa Rice on her trip to Israel and blame it on Arabs. Secretly pass the information on to the higher ups that the Mossad knows where she is and will bring her back alive if Pollard is freed.
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I think we should stop looking to American politicians to free Pollard and start blaming Israel. If Israel really wanted to they could free Pollard. They simply have to kidnap Condoleeeeesa Rice on her trip to Israel and blame it on Arabs. Secretly pass the information on to the higher ups that the Mossad knows where she is and will bring her back alive if Pollard is freed.
I actually think congoleeza needs to be dropped into a housing project in harlem and let the neighborhood bros take care of her.
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I think we should stop looking to American politicians to free Pollard and start blaming Israel. If Israel really wanted to they could free Pollard. They simply have to kidnap Condoleeeeesa Rice on her trip to Israel and blame it on Arabs. Secretly pass the information on to the higher ups that the Mossad knows where she is and will bring her back alive if Pollard is freed.
Its very hard to get people to support your cause when you guys speak of things like this and if anyone disagrees with you they are a anti-Semite. If I were a anti-Semite, why would I bother wasting my time here, theres much better things to do then hide my feelings about Jews and then say that Pollard was a traitor spy.
I don't care whether the spy is from ally or not, treason is a very serious crime and shouldn't be taken lightly.
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Lets put it this way, if you're a Jew you're always (sol) especially if you're stuck in prison. It's politically incorrect to do Justice, and release Pollard.
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I think we should stop looking to American politicians to free Pollard and start blaming Israel. If Israel really wanted to they could free Pollard. They simply have to kidnap Condoleeeeesa Rice on her trip to Israel and blame it on Arabs. Secretly pass the information on to the higher ups that the Mossad knows where she is and will bring her back alive if Pollard is freed.
Its very hard to get people to support your cause when you guys speak of things like this and if anyone disagrees with you they are a anti-Semite. If I were a anti-Semite, why would I bother wasting my time here, theres much better things to do then hide my feelings about Jews and then say that Pollard was a traitor spy.
I don't care whether the spy is from ally or not, treason is a very serious crime and shouldn't be taken lightly.
What are you talking about? He never even faced treason charges. He plead guilty on one count of spying for Israel. That's it. That sentence is 2-4 years MAX for any other non Jewish offender of even WORSE than what he is convicted for. It is a clear case of injustice. The fact that one can't see it as being an injustice means they are judging with a double standard. Where the roots of this double standard stem from are not for me to figure out nor do I care. Perhaps it is mostly ignorance that most people just do not know the facts of this case and just throw around terms like 'traitor' when he wasn't one.
Let's be clear. NONE of the information Pollard shared compromised US security interests. He simply shared information that the US was obligated to share under agreements, and by withholding, was actually compromising ISRAEL'S SECURITY. Thus why Pollard is a Jewish hero.
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McCain could stick it where the sun doesnt shine, schmuck.
Should the US spy on Israel?
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McCain could stick it where the sun doesnt shine, schmuck.
Should the US spy on Israel?
Agression, you are treading on thin ice by even questioning the heroism of jonothan pollard. He did not commit treason. He was of great service to this country and prevented american soldiers from being smoked. G-d will strike you if you attack this prisoner of zion.
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McCain could stick it where the sun doesnt shine, schmuck.
Should the US spy on Israel?
You don't think they do??? LOL, all countries spy on one another, allies and enemies included. Again, spying is a general term. Specifically what crime was committed, is NOT what Pollard's punishment reflects.
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Get the jew hater "aggression" off this site. May his genitals be cooked like a burnt hot dog. Here he is with the typical islamic press release that the jews are bad.
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McCain could stick it where the sun doesnt shine, schmuck.
Should the US spy on Israel?
You don't think they do??? LOL, all countries spy on one another, allies and enemies included. Again, spying is a general term. Specifically what crime was committed, is NOT what Pollard's punishment reflects.
But again no one knows exactly what he revealed, it's still a secret. Which may/may not explain his setence. I wonder what it is.
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McCain could stick it where the sun doesnt shine, schmuck.
Should the US spy on Israel?
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For your information, America DOES spy on Israel all the time.
When American spies were caught, the stupid Israelis never even arrested them.
Also, Jonathan Pollard saved many AMERICAN lives by helping the Israelis with information needed to destroy Iraq's nuclear bomb-making program. Saddam Hussein would have used those nuclear bombs against the U.S. if the Israeli air force had not destroyed the program in 1981.
You believe whatever the Justice Department and the Pentagon tell you. How dare you call the great hero Jonathan Pollard a traitor?! The REAL traitors are the Arab-loving, Muslim-loving, Jew-hating, New World Order scum in the Justice Department and the Pentagon who are destroying this country with affirmative action, foreign aid, open borders and political correctness. These federal government bureaucrats are the real traitors, and so are YOU for siding with them against a genuine and noble hero.
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Wow look how many anti semite bastards have infiltrated us. Get the gestapo off this site. Look at them trying to find every fault possible in pollard.
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Chaim, can you ban these two chayos who are attacking the jewish prisoner pollard?
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McCain could stick it where the sun doesnt shine, schmuck.
Should the US spy on Israel?
בס''ד
For your information, America DOES spy on Israel all the time.
When American spies were caught, the stupid Israelis never even arrested them.
Also, Jonathan Pollard saved many AMERICAN lives by helping the Israelis with information needed to destroy Iraq's nuclear bomb-making program. Saddam Hussein would have used those nuclear bombs against the U.S. if the Israeli air force had not destroyed the program in 1981.
You believe whatever the Justice Department and the Pentagon tell you. How dare you call the great hero Jonathan Pollard a traitor?! The REAL traitors are the Arab-loving, Muslim-loving, Jew-hating, New World Order scum in the Justice Department and the Pentagon who are destroying this country with affirmative action, foreign aid, open borders and political correctness. These federal government bureaucrats are the real traitors, and so are YOU for siding with them against a genuine and noble hero.
Jonathan Pollard had nothing to do with giving information about Iraq's nuclear program. He wasn't apart of Operation Sphinx. I've read about the entire operation in Victor Ostrokvsky's book. He definitely wasn't apart of that operation.
And like I said before people speculate what he told Israel but the truth is no one knows what he revealed. It's still a secret.
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What's amazing is that these idiots who criticize the great hero Jonathan Pollard are also betraying America. WHAT THE HELL WOULD AMERICA HAVE DONE IF ISRAEL HAD NOT DESTROYED THE IRAQI NUCLEAR BOMB-MAKING PROGRAM IN 1981? America could have destroyed the program as well, but was unwilling to because these same Washington traitors who railroaded Jonathan Pollard keep the U.S. addicted to Arab oil. Pollard exposed the fact that these traitors were deliberately withholding information that Israel was entitled to receive under the U.S.-Israel Strategic Alliance agreement. These traitors never forgave Pollard for exposing their perfidy. POLLARD SHOULD GET A MEDAL FOR SAVING COUNTLESS AMERICAN LIVES.
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Chaim, what I don't understand is your claim that Pollard was involved in Operation Sphinx? There is no proof of this. The only former Mossad agent who spoke about this operation in great detail is Victor Ostrovsky and he didn't say anything about Pollard even when he gave updates on the book.
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As much as the Nazi pig McCain (ys"vz) deserves to burn in hell forever for this, it can hardly be said that he isn't reflecting the American consensus on this holy tzaddik. The American idiot public bought the Nazi Reagan (ys"vz)'s lie that Pollard was a spy and a traitor.
I guess we also know what McCain says about the Gentile tzaddiks Ramos and Compean. >:(
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McCain could stick it where the sun doesnt shine, schmuck.
Should the US spy on Israel?
בס''ד
For your information, America DOES spy on Israel all the time.
When American spies were caught, the stupid Israelis never even arrested them.
Also, Jonathan Pollard saved many AMERICAN lives by helping the Israelis with information needed to destroy Iraq's nuclear bomb-making program. Saddam Hussein would have used those nuclear bombs against the U.S. if the Israeli air force had not destroyed the program in 1981.
You believe whatever the Justice Department and the Pentagon tell you. How dare you call the great hero Jonathan Pollard a traitor?! The REAL traitors are the Arab-loving, Muslim-loving, Jew-hating, New World Order scum in the Justice Department and the Pentagon who are destroying this country with affirmative action, foreign aid, open borders and political correctness. These federal government bureaucrats are the real traitors, and so are YOU for siding with them against a genuine and noble hero.
Jonathan Pollard had nothing to do with giving information about Iraq's nuclear program. He wasn't apart of Operation Sphinx. I've read about the entire operation in Victor Ostrokvsky's book. He definitely wasn't apart of that operation.
And like I said before people speculate what he told Israel but the truth is no one knows what he revealed. It's still a secret.
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You're a liar. It is well known that Pollard did provide Israel with information on the Osirak nuclear bomb-making factory. And I'm losing patience with your ridiculous smears about Pollard offering information to Muslim Pakistan.
G-d will punish the two of you for daring to attack this noble saint who has sacrificed a million times more than either one of you would ever dream of.
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McCain could stick it where the sun doesnt shine, schmuck.
Should the US spy on Israel?
בס''ד
For your information, America DOES spy on Israel all the time.
When American spies were caught, the stupid Israelis never even arrested them.
Also, Jonathan Pollard saved many AMERICAN lives by helping the Israelis with information needed to destroy Iraq's nuclear bomb-making program. Saddam Hussein would have used those nuclear bombs against the U.S. if the Israeli air force had not destroyed the program in 1981.
You believe whatever the Justice Department and the Pentagon tell you. How dare you call the great hero Jonathan Pollard a traitor?! The REAL traitors are the Arab-loving, Muslim-loving, Jew-hating, New World Order scum in the Justice Department and the Pentagon who are destroying this country with affirmative action, foreign aid, open borders and political correctness. These federal government bureaucrats are the real traitors, and so are YOU for siding with them against a genuine and noble hero.
Jonathan Pollard had nothing to do with giving information about Iraq's nuclear program. He wasn't apart of Operation Sphinx. I've read about the entire operation in Victor Ostrokvsky's book. He definitely wasn't apart of that operation.
And like I said before people speculate what he told Israel but the truth is no one knows what he revealed. It's still a secret.
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You're a liar. It is well known that Pollard did provide Israel with information on the Osirak nuclear bomb-making factory. And I'm losing patience with your ridiculous smears about Pollard offering information to Muslim Pakistan.
G-d will punish the two of you for daring to attack this noble saint who has sacrificed a million times more than either one of you would ever dream of.
Pollard was not apart of Operation Sphinx. Pollard was never even an Mossad agent.
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Chaim, what I don't understand is your claim that Pollard was involved in Operation Sphinx? There is no proof of this. The only former Mossad agent who spoke about this operation in great detail is Victor Ostrovsky and he didn't say anything about Pollard even when he gave updates on the book.
Big whoop. It is already established fact, and public record, that all of the CIA agents who turned in the tzaddik Pollard were his FELLOW JEWS. The fact that you cite one Jewish agent who refused to defend him... proves nothing! ::)
All of the "Zionist" colonists (ys"vz) who ratted on the Stern members (zt"l) were--guess what--FELLOW JEWS! The vast majority of the Israelis in that day were MARXISTS who hated real right-wing religious Jewish tzaddiks! The vast majority of Israelis at the time of independence--and to a lesser extent today--are secular socialists. The majority of the first Zionist pilgrims from eastern Europe at the turn of the century were Marxists who wanted to create a Jewish socialist utopia in Fagestine in order to avoid European pogroms and Jew-hatred. Since the vast majority of devout, noble religious Jews were murdered in the Shoah, the demographic remained essentially unaltered after WWII in both Israel and America, because there was no influx of right-wing, noble Jews in either nation.
THAT is why we have such huge numbers of Jewish backstabbers in both Israel and America. YIMACH SCHMO VEZICHRO to all of these pigs!
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I agree with you totally Chaimfan. I should also add that the malshim "full metal jacket" was defending shvartza jew haters on another thread. I think he should go have relations with a shvartza kurva and should contract something. Yimach shmo vezichro a million times.
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Chaim, what I don't understand is your claim that Pollard was involved in Operation Sphinx? There is no proof of this. The only former Mossad agent who spoke about this operation in great detail is Victor Ostrovsky and he didn't say anything about Pollard even when he gave updates on the book.
Big whoop. It is already established fact, and public record, that all of the CIA agents who turned in the tzaddik Pollard were his FELLOW JEWS. The fact that you cite one Jewish agent who refused to defend him... proves nothing! ::)
All of the "Zionist" colonists (ys"vz) who ratted on the Stern members (zt"l) were--guess what--FELLOW JEWS! The vast majority of the Israelis in that day were MARXISTS who hated real right-wing religious Jewish tzaddiks! The vast majority of Israelis at the time of independence--and to a lesser extent today--are secular socialists. The majority of the first Zionist pilgrims from eastern Europe at the turn of the century were Marxists who wanted to create a Jewish socialist utopia in Fagestine in order to avoid European pogroms and Jew-hatred. Since the vast majority of devout, noble religious Jews were murdered in the Shoah, the demographic remained essentially unaltered after WWII in both Israel and America, because there was no influx of right-wing, noble Jews in either nation.
THAT is why we have such huge numbers of Jewish backstabbers in both Israel and America. YIMACH SCHMO VEZICHRO to all of these pigs!
C.F,
I'm not sure your aware of the facts surronding the case. It wasn't even the CIA who turned him in. It was the FBI. The FBI took notice of him because he worked for the U.S Intelligence Support Center in Sutland and then transfered over to the Anti-Terrorism Alert Center. This is what tipped off the FBI. Not anyone ratting him out.
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McCain could stick it where the sun doesnt shine, schmuck.
Should the US spy on Israel?
בס''ד
For your information, America DOES spy on Israel all the time.
When American spies were caught, the stupid Israelis never even arrested them.
Also, Jonathan Pollard saved many AMERICAN lives by helping the Israelis with information needed to destroy Iraq's nuclear bomb-making program. Saddam Hussein would have used those nuclear bombs against the U.S. if the Israeli air force had not destroyed the program in 1981.
You believe whatever the Justice Department and the Pentagon tell you. How dare you call the great hero Jonathan Pollard a traitor?! The REAL traitors are the Arab-loving, Muslim-loving, Jew-hating, New World Order scum in the Justice Department and the Pentagon who are destroying this country with affirmative action, foreign aid, open borders and political correctness. These federal government bureaucrats are the real traitors, and so are YOU for siding with them against a genuine and noble hero.
Jonathan Pollard had nothing to do with giving information about Iraq's nuclear program. He wasn't apart of Operation Sphinx. I've read about the entire operation in Victor Ostrokvsky's book. He definitely wasn't apart of that operation.
And like I said before people speculate what he told Israel but the truth is no one knows what he revealed. It's still a secret.
בס''ד
You're a liar. It is well known that Pollard did provide Israel with information on the Osirak nuclear bomb-making factory. And I'm losing patience with your ridiculous smears about Pollard offering information to Muslim Pakistan.
G-d will punish the two of you for daring to attack this noble saint who has sacrificed a million times more than either one of you would ever dream of.
Pollard was not apart of Operation Sphinx. Pollard was never even an Mossad agent.
The information which Israel obtained to carry out the raid on Iraq's nuclear program came from MANY different sources, not just from one operation. Pollard provided key information on the underground fortifications which the Iraqis had built at Osirak.
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Chaim, let these two beasts go. I just posted a poll about these Nazi pigs.
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McCain could stick it where the sun doesnt shine, schmuck.
Should the US spy on Israel?
בס''ד
For your information, America DOES spy on Israel all the time.
When American spies were caught, the stupid Israelis never even arrested them.
Also, Jonathan Pollard saved many AMERICAN lives by helping the Israelis with information needed to destroy Iraq's nuclear bomb-making program. Saddam Hussein would have used those nuclear bombs against the U.S. if the Israeli air force had not destroyed the program in 1981.
You believe whatever the Justice Department and the Pentagon tell you. How dare you call the great hero Jonathan Pollard a traitor?! The REAL traitors are the Arab-loving, Muslim-loving, Jew-hating, New World Order scum in the Justice Department and the Pentagon who are destroying this country with affirmative action, foreign aid, open borders and political correctness. These federal government bureaucrats are the real traitors, and so are YOU for siding with them against a genuine and noble hero.
Jonathan Pollard had nothing to do with giving information about Iraq's nuclear program. He wasn't apart of Operation Sphinx. I've read about the entire operation in Victor Ostrokvsky's book. He definitely wasn't apart of that operation.
And like I said before people speculate what he told Israel but the truth is no one knows what he revealed. It's still a secret.
בס''ד
You're a liar. It is well known that Pollard did provide Israel with information on the Osirak nuclear bomb-making factory. And I'm losing patience with your ridiculous smears about Pollard offering information to Muslim Pakistan.
G-d will punish the two of you for daring to attack this noble saint who has sacrificed a million times more than either one of you would ever dream of.
Pollard was not apart of Operation Sphinx. Pollard was never even an Mossad agent.
The information which Israel obtained to carry out the raid on Iraq's nuclear program came from MANY different sources, not just from one operation. Pollard provided key information on the underground fortifications which the Iraqis had built at Osirak.
The entire source, the Iraqi who was fooled by a honey trap mossad agent, was all apart of Operation Sphinx.
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CF, I know you mean well, but that poll is not appropriate for a religious forum.
I do get worked up when people lie about this great Jewish hero who has spent 22 years in prison even though what he did helped not only Israel but also America.
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Save it for your Whorefront buddies.
(I mean S&M Leather Jacket, not you, Chaim.)
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CF, I know you mean well, but that poll is not appropriate for a religious forum.
I do get worked up when people lie about this great Jewish hero who has spent 22 years in prison even though what he did helped not only Israel but also America.
Chaim, I'm going to write the paragraph in Ostrovsky's book that sums up the entire operation. Give me a minute.
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Getting back to the original post, Chaim, it's for this reason that I am going to have an EXTREMELY hard time voting for McCain, even if he is the only alternative to Barack Hussein Osama. Come on--the difference between them is MINISCULE; we will have to choose one Nazi over another.
It is far from certain that you will be able to convince me to vote for the Nazi McCain over the Nazi Obama. So Obama is a black Muslim? So what? McCain is a white traitor whose political views are identical to those of a black Muslim.
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Chaim, these animals are spreading lies about pollard. They need to be banned immediately.
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Getting back to the original post, Chaim, it's for this reason that I am going to have an EXTREMELY hard time voting for McCain, even if he is the only alternative to Barack Hussein Osama. Come on--the difference between them is MINISCULE; we will have to choose one Nazi over another.
It is far from certain that you will be able to convince me to vote for the Nazi McCain over the Nazi Obama. So Obama is a black Muslim? So what? McCain is a white traitor whose political views are identical to those of a black Muslim.
Well said Chaimfan. I feel the same. Hussein Osama is a shvartza muslim and Juan Mccain wishes he were one.
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McCain could stick it where the sun doesnt shine, schmuck.
Should the US spy on Israel?
בס''ד
For your information, America DOES spy on Israel all the time.
When American spies were caught, the stupid Israelis never even arrested them.
Also, Jonathan Pollard saved many AMERICAN lives by helping the Israelis with information needed to destroy Iraq's nuclear bomb-making program. Saddam Hussein would have used those nuclear bombs against the U.S. if the Israeli air force had not destroyed the program in 1981.
You believe whatever the Justice Department and the Pentagon tell you. How dare you call the great hero Jonathan Pollard a traitor?! The REAL traitors are the Arab-loving, Muslim-loving, Jew-hating, New World Order scum in the Justice Department and the Pentagon who are destroying this country with affirmative action, foreign aid, open borders and political correctness. These federal government bureaucrats are the real traitors, and so are YOU for siding with them against a genuine and noble hero.
Jonathan Pollard had nothing to do with giving information about Iraq's nuclear program. He wasn't apart of Operation Sphinx. I've read about the entire operation in Victor Ostrokvsky's book. He definitely wasn't apart of that operation.
And like I said before people speculate what he told Israel but the truth is no one knows what he revealed. It's still a secret.
בס''ד
You're a liar. It is well known that Pollard did provide Israel with information on the Osirak nuclear bomb-making factory. And I'm losing patience with your ridiculous smears about Pollard offering information to Muslim Pakistan.
G-d will punish the two of you for daring to attack this noble saint who has sacrificed a million times more than either one of you would ever dream of.
Pollard was not apart of Operation Sphinx. Pollard was never even an Mossad agent.
The information which Israel obtained to carry out the raid on Iraq's nuclear program came from MANY different sources, not just from one operation. Pollard provided key information on the underground fortifications which the Iraqis had built at Osirak.
The entire source, the Iraqi who was fooled by a honey trap mossad agent, was all apart of Operation Sphinx.
Your statements are getting even more absurd. No one Iraqi knew enough about Osirak to provide Israel with the information needed to stage the attack. Even if Saddam Hussein himself had been captured, he did not know enough to enable the Israeli air force to do what they did. The information came from numerous sources: French scientists and engineers who worked at Osirak; Iraqis who worked there; and, American investors in French companies who built the fortifications for the reactor and the underground facility - the information from American investors to the Pentagon was transmitted by Pollard to Israel.
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McCain could stick it where the sun doesnt shine, schmuck.
Should the US spy on Israel?
בס''ד
For your information, America DOES spy on Israel all the time.
When American spies were caught, the stupid Israelis never even arrested them.
Also, Jonathan Pollard saved many AMERICAN lives by helping the Israelis with information needed to destroy Iraq's nuclear bomb-making program. Saddam Hussein would have used those nuclear bombs against the U.S. if the Israeli air force had not destroyed the program in 1981.
You believe whatever the Justice Department and the Pentagon tell you. How dare you call the great hero Jonathan Pollard a traitor?! The REAL traitors are the Arab-loving, Muslim-loving, Jew-hating, New World Order scum in the Justice Department and the Pentagon who are destroying this country with affirmative action, foreign aid, open borders and political correctness. These federal government bureaucrats are the real traitors, and so are YOU for siding with them against a genuine and noble hero.
Jonathan Pollard had nothing to do with giving information about Iraq's nuclear program. He wasn't apart of Operation Sphinx. I've read about the entire operation in Victor Ostrokvsky's book. He definitely wasn't apart of that operation.
And like I said before people speculate what he told Israel but the truth is no one knows what he revealed. It's still a secret.
בס''ד
You're a liar. It is well known that Pollard did provide Israel with information on the Osirak nuclear bomb-making factory. And I'm losing patience with your ridiculous smears about Pollard offering information to Muslim Pakistan.
G-d will punish the two of you for daring to attack this noble saint who has sacrificed a million times more than either one of you would ever dream of.
Pollard was not apart of Operation Sphinx. Pollard was never even an Mossad agent.
The information which Israel obtained to carry out the raid on Iraq's nuclear program came from MANY different sources, not just from one operation. Pollard provided key information on the underground fortifications which the Iraqis had built at Osirak.
The entire source, the Iraqi who was fooled by a honey trap mossad agent, was all apart of Operation Sphinx.
Your statements are getting even more absurd. No one Iraqi knew enough about Osirak to provide Israel with the information needed to stage the attack. Even if Saddam Hussein himself had been captured, he did not know enough to enable the Israeli air force to do what they did. The information came from numerous sources: French scientists and engineers who worked at Osirak; Iraqis who worked there; and, American investors in French companies who built the fortifications for the reactor and the underground facility - the information from American investors to the Pentagon was transmitted by Pollard to Israel.
Again like I said in my last post. I'm going to copy the excerpt in Ostrovsky's book that sums up the entire operation. I'll post it here.
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McCain could stick it where the sun doesnt shine, schmuck.
Should the US spy on Israel?
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For your information, America DOES spy on Israel all the time.
When American spies were caught, the stupid Israelis never even arrested them.
Also, Jonathan Pollard saved many AMERICAN lives by helping the Israelis with information needed to destroy Iraq's nuclear bomb-making program. Saddam Hussein would have used those nuclear bombs against the U.S. if the Israeli air force had not destroyed the program in 1981.
You believe whatever the Justice Department and the Pentagon tell you. How dare you call the great hero Jonathan Pollard a traitor?! The REAL traitors are the Arab-loving, Muslim-loving, Jew-hating, New World Order scum in the Justice Department and the Pentagon who are destroying this country with affirmative action, foreign aid, open borders and political correctness. These federal government bureaucrats are the real traitors, and so are YOU for siding with them against a genuine and noble hero.
Jonathan Pollard had nothing to do with giving information about Iraq's nuclear program. He wasn't apart of Operation Sphinx. I've read about the entire operation in Victor Ostrokvsky's book. He definitely wasn't apart of that operation.
And like I said before people speculate what he told Israel but the truth is no one knows what he revealed. It's still a secret.
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You're a liar. It is well known that Pollard did provide Israel with information on the Osirak nuclear bomb-making factory. And I'm losing patience with your ridiculous smears about Pollard offering information to Muslim Pakistan.
G-d will punish the two of you for daring to attack this noble saint who has sacrificed a million times more than either one of you would ever dream of.
Pollard was not apart of Operation Sphinx. Pollard was never even an Mossad agent.
The information which Israel obtained to carry out the raid on Iraq's nuclear program came from MANY different sources, not just from one operation. Pollard provided key information on the underground fortifications which the Iraqis had built at Osirak.
The entire source, the Iraqi who was fooled by a honey trap mossad agent, was all apart of Operation Sphinx.
Your statements are getting even more absurd. No one Iraqi knew enough about Osirak to provide Israel with the information needed to stage the attack. Even if Saddam Hussein himself had been captured, he did not know enough to enable the Israeli air force to do what they did. The information came from numerous sources: French scientists and engineers who worked at Osirak; Iraqis who worked there; and, American investors in French companies who built the fortifications for the reactor and the underground facility - the information from American investors to the Pentagon was transmitted by Pollard to Israel.
Wow Chaim, reading what you wrote makes me love and respect pollard even more. May he merit great health and a speedy release from prison. All those responsible for his incarceration should suffer miserable deaths.
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McCain could stick it where the sun doesnt shine, schmuck.
Should the US spy on Israel?
בס''ד
For your information, America DOES spy on Israel all the time.
When American spies were caught, the stupid Israelis never even arrested them.
Also, Jonathan Pollard saved many AMERICAN lives by helping the Israelis with information needed to destroy Iraq's nuclear bomb-making program. Saddam Hussein would have used those nuclear bombs against the U.S. if the Israeli air force had not destroyed the program in 1981.
You believe whatever the Justice Department and the Pentagon tell you. How dare you call the great hero Jonathan Pollard a traitor?! The REAL traitors are the Arab-loving, Muslim-loving, Jew-hating, New World Order scum in the Justice Department and the Pentagon who are destroying this country with affirmative action, foreign aid, open borders and political correctness. These federal government bureaucrats are the real traitors, and so are YOU for siding with them against a genuine and noble hero.
Jonathan Pollard had nothing to do with giving information about Iraq's nuclear program. He wasn't apart of Operation Sphinx. I've read about the entire operation in Victor Ostrokvsky's book. He definitely wasn't apart of that operation.
And like I said before people speculate what he told Israel but the truth is no one knows what he revealed. It's still a secret.
בס''ד
You're a liar. It is well known that Pollard did provide Israel with information on the Osirak nuclear bomb-making factory. And I'm losing patience with your ridiculous smears about Pollard offering information to Muslim Pakistan.
G-d will punish the two of you for daring to attack this noble saint who has sacrificed a million times more than either one of you would ever dream of.
Pollard was not apart of Operation Sphinx. Pollard was never even an Mossad agent.
The information which Israel obtained to carry out the raid on Iraq's nuclear program came from MANY different sources, not just from one operation. Pollard provided key information on the underground fortifications which the Iraqis had built at Osirak.
The entire source, the Iraqi who was fooled by a honey trap mossad agent, was all apart of Operation Sphinx.
Your statements are getting even more absurd. No one Iraqi knew enough about Osirak to provide Israel with the information needed to stage the attack. Even if Saddam Hussein himself had been captured, he did not know enough to enable the Israeli air force to do what they did. The information came from numerous sources: French scientists and engineers who worked at Osirak; Iraqis who worked there; and, American investors in French companies who built the fortifications for the reactor and the underground facility - the information from American investors to the Pentagon was transmitted by Pollard to Israel.
Again like I said in my last post. I'm going to copy the excerpt in Ostrovsky's book that sums up the entire operation. I'll post it here.
Di zalst vaksen vi a tziblen mit dayn kap in drert!
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McCain could stick it where the sun doesnt shine, schmuck.
Should the US spy on Israel?
בס''ד
For your information, America DOES spy on Israel all the time.
When American spies were caught, the stupid Israelis never even arrested them.
Also, Jonathan Pollard saved many AMERICAN lives by helping the Israelis with information needed to destroy Iraq's nuclear bomb-making program. Saddam Hussein would have used those nuclear bombs against the U.S. if the Israeli air force had not destroyed the program in 1981.
You believe whatever the Justice Department and the Pentagon tell you. How dare you call the great hero Jonathan Pollard a traitor?! The REAL traitors are the Arab-loving, Muslim-loving, Jew-hating, New World Order scum in the Justice Department and the Pentagon who are destroying this country with affirmative action, foreign aid, open borders and political correctness. These federal government bureaucrats are the real traitors, and so are YOU for siding with them against a genuine and noble hero.
Jonathan Pollard had nothing to do with giving information about Iraq's nuclear program. He wasn't apart of Operation Sphinx. I've read about the entire operation in Victor Ostrokvsky's book. He definitely wasn't apart of that operation.
And like I said before people speculate what he told Israel but the truth is no one knows what he revealed. It's still a secret.
בס''ד
You're a liar. It is well known that Pollard did provide Israel with information on the Osirak nuclear bomb-making factory. And I'm losing patience with your ridiculous smears about Pollard offering information to Muslim Pakistan.
G-d will punish the two of you for daring to attack this noble saint who has sacrificed a million times more than either one of you would ever dream of.
Pollard was not apart of Operation Sphinx. Pollard was never even an Mossad agent.
The information which Israel obtained to carry out the raid on Iraq's nuclear program came from MANY different sources, not just from one operation. Pollard provided key information on the underground fortifications which the Iraqis had built at Osirak.
The entire source, the Iraqi who was fooled by a honey trap mossad agent, was all apart of Operation Sphinx.
Your statements are getting even more absurd. No one Iraqi knew enough about Osirak to provide Israel with the information needed to stage the attack. Even if Saddam Hussein himself had been captured, he did not know enough to enable the Israeli air force to do what they did. The information came from numerous sources: French scientists and engineers who worked at Osirak; Iraqis who worked there; and, American investors in French companies who built the fortifications for the reactor and the underground facility - the information from American investors to the Pentagon was transmitted by Pollard to Israel.
Wow Chaim, reading what you wrote makes me love and respect pollard even more. May he merit great health and a speedy release from prison. All those responsible for his incarceration should suffer miserable deaths.
בס''ד
אמן Amen!
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And the monsters who have slandered pollard should know that g-d is unhappy with them and may act against them for this.
Gat zalt shnaden of dayn petzele un dayn kap.
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Chaim, I just addressed these two animals in yiddish. What I wrote suits them well.
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I read Victor Ostrovsky's book about 12 years ago but I remember he was very negative about Israeli retaliation even against Arab murderers who were plotting against Israel. He was dismissed from the Mossad so it's not beyond the realm of possibilities that he has a grudge against them and made some things up. I believe many in Israel think of him as a traitor. Also, Pollard has spent 25 years in prison! Isn't that enough for anyone!!!! Some members of the black gang that killed a white teenager in the Seattle Mardi Gras riots got 3 years and Pollard gets 25. Jane Fonda went to Vietnam to support the North Vietnamese during the war and got no jail time. Sean Penn went to Iraq before Operation Freedom and worked as reporter in anti-american Iran and he's a free American millionaire.
Just insanity.
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McCain could stick it where the sun doesnt shine, schmuck.
Should the US spy on Israel?
בס''ד
For your information, America DOES spy on Israel all the time.
When American spies were caught, the stupid Israelis never even arrested them.
Also, Jonathan Pollard saved many AMERICAN lives by helping the Israelis with information needed to destroy Iraq's nuclear bomb-making program. Saddam Hussein would have used those nuclear bombs against the U.S. if the Israeli air force had not destroyed the program in 1981.
You believe whatever the Justice Department and the Pentagon tell you. How dare you call the great hero Jonathan Pollard a traitor?! The REAL traitors are the Arab-loving, Muslim-loving, Jew-hating, New World Order scum in the Justice Department and the Pentagon who are destroying this country with affirmative action, foreign aid, open borders and political correctness. These federal government bureaucrats are the real traitors, and so are YOU for siding with them against a genuine and noble hero.
well put.
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As a Non Jew, and an American I think it is sick that they have locked this man up for so many years and no one seems to release his sentences when you have criminals, murderers and rapists who eventually get out and back into society. This man saved so many American lives who are now fighting in Iraq. God forbid if Saddam Hussein was able to build nuclear weapons in the early 80s that would of been the end of not just the United States, not just Israel but the entire world would of fallen to this.
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Also think what he could of done when the U.S. was fighting Iraq when Bush's father was in office.
Nukes in the hands of any Muzzie is a guaranteed disaster for everyone else. I wish we have someone who has the stones to now go after Iran cause now with Iran we are facing the exact same problem.
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I haven't heard nice things about Jonathan Pollard. If Ronald Olive is right, this guy Pollard went to Pakistan and other countries and tried to sell them information about the U.S before he gave it to Israel.
You are an Anti-Semite. Consider yourself warned.
Pollard is a very patriotic American, Israeli, and Jew. He is a hero.
What in the world did I say that is anti-semitic?
Being against Jonathan Pollard equals Anti-Semitism.
It was a disproportinate sentence under all views. Anti-Semitism or just cruelty, but very EVIL.