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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Dr. Dan on March 22, 2008, 10:05:10 PM
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check out the last question posted on the askjtf for march 23rd by someone who goes by the name ZATSAL WARRIOR...Maybe I'm misreading his comment but it freaked me out.
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That's an extremely disturbing comment. :o
What the hell is going on??!?!??!
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Dan, I think you are right rather creepy
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I hope that's not Chaim's actual daily route. Creepy to say the least.
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well, i would like to hear chiam's response to this nut and how he woudl break his neck once he figured out who he was
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just laugh it off at how effective we are as a movement to have obssessed nuts troll like that...
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Yea me too but he did sound rather strange
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Very strange....
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I just read this post.
Definitely an angry response, but not necessarily by a "stalker" in the sense of someone bent on violence against Chaim.
The viewpoint expressed is the same as that of Olmert when he debated Rabbi Kahane, and ridiculed the Rabbi's convictions that Jews must fight back and drive out the Terrorist Arabs. Olmert smirked and insisted that Kahane's way was the "reason" for terror rather than the way to end it.
Even so, the words of choice by this poster are chock full of militant imagery, so caution should be used. The aggressive manner projected strikes me as coming from an Israeli in the IDF whose complete allegiance is to his government and the status quo.
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Well all I can say is keep your eye out on this one
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I think Jdl4ever banned him.
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I just read this post.
Definitely an angry response, but not necessarily by a "stalker" in the sense of someone bent on violence against Chaim.
The viewpoint expressed is the same as that of Olmert when he debated Rabbi Kahane, and ridiculed the Rabbi's convictions that Jews must fight back and drive out the Terrorist Arabs. Olmert smirked and insisted that Kahane's way was the "reason" for terror rather than the way to end it.
Even so, the words of choice by this poster are chock full of militant imagery, so caution should be used. The aggressive manner projected strikes me as coming from an Israeli in the IDF whose complete allegiance is to his government and the status quo.
Its more than that. This guy is giving specifics, "When you take the bus on Union Turnpike and Queens Boulevard going toward Fresh Meadows, you have virtually no chance that the person getting on after you will have a belt of several pounds of C4-Semtex Plastique surrounded by nails...your seder, your pizzeria or your ice cream parlor on Union Turnpike or 108th Street in Forest Hills won't be blown up with you it as a result of the Draconian solutions you propose."
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I just read this post.
Definitely an angry response, but not necessarily by a "stalker" in the sense of someone bent on violence against Chaim.
The viewpoint expressed is the same as that of Olmert when he debated Rabbi Kahane, and ridiculed the Rabbi's convictions that Jews must fight back and drive out the Terrorist Arabs. Olmert smirked and insisted that Kahane's way was the "reason" for terror rather than the way to end it.
Even so, the words of choice by this poster are chock full of militant imagery, so caution should be used. The aggressive manner projected strikes me as coming from an Israeli in the IDF whose complete allegiance is to his government and the status quo.
Its more than that. This guy is giving specifics, "When you take the bus on Union Turnpike and Queens Boulevard going toward Fresh Meadows, you have virtually no chance that the person getting on after you will have a belt of several pounds of C4-Semtex Plastique surrounded by nails...your seder, your pizzeria or your ice cream parlor on Union Turnpike or 108th Street in Forest Hills won't be blown up with you it as a result of the Draconian solutions you propose."
yeh and surprised he didn't say Woodhaven Blvd or Yellowstone Ave... :(
I think this fella some him on the bus once going in that direction...
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I just read this post.
Definitely an angry response, but not necessarily by a "stalker" in the sense of someone bent on violence against Chaim.
The viewpoint expressed is the same as that of Olmert when he debated Rabbi Kahane, and ridiculed the Rabbi's convictions that Jews must fight back and drive out the Terrorist Arabs. Olmert smirked and insisted that Kahane's way was the "reason" for terror rather than the way to end it.
Even so, the words of choice by this poster are chock full of militant imagery, so caution should be used. The aggressive manner projected strikes me as coming from an Israeli in the IDF whose complete allegiance is to his government and the status quo.
yeh and surprised he didn't say Woodhaven Blvd or Yellowstone Ave... :(
I think this fella some him on the bus once going in that direction...
Its more than that. This guy is giving specifics, "When you take the bus on Union Turnpike and Queens Boulevard going toward Fresh Meadows, you have virtually no chance that the person getting on after you will have a belt of several pounds of C4-Semtex Plastique surrounded by nails...your seder, your pizzeria or your ice cream parlor on Union Turnpike or 108th Street in Forest Hills won't be blown up with you it as a result of the Draconian solutions you propose."
Dan, fix your post.
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This guy is scary. :(
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is it me, or am i starting to feel we have to prepared like the JDL was in the 80's with teh baseball bats and brass knuckles?
treats like these are scary, but do we run away? Or when we meet it face to face should we defend ourselves? And how?
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Most people that make threats are merely tiny scrawny wimps like the loser who posted the question. He's more scared of us than we're scared of him.
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it's not the tinyness of twerps that worry me...it's the sick brain that these little twerps carry around with them and their means of cowardly acts to hurt others. that's why i posted what i posted previous to your post...
i think the righteous in this country have been disarmed from legally defending themselves.
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is it me, or am i starting to feel we have to prepared like the JDL was in the 80's with teh baseball bats and brass knuckles?
We need to be prepared with more than those things.
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Most people that make threats are merely tiny scrawny wimps like the loser who posted the question. He's more scared of us than we're scared of him.
I agree that guy is just flapping his mouth. I just read his post and he seems to be trying to discredit Chaim and nothing more. He is just talking generically he has no idea what bus Chaim uses or places where he goes. Lets keep an eye on this guy anyway but I really think he is nothing but hot air. The point it seems he is making is that Chaim is here and not in Israel. Little does he know Chaim would do anything to be in Israel.
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Re: "...is it me, or am i starting to feel we have to prepared like the JDL was in the 80's with teh baseball bats and brass knuckles?..."
DON'T TASE ME, BRO'!
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I don't even think that shmuck ever saw chaim. Anyone who lives in Queens knows their is a bus stop on union turnpike over there and he was just making himself seem more informed than he really is. He prob is some kike worm who is jealous of Chaim.
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Who ever it is, its really some sick individual that needs medical attention at creedmore with medication or something cause he doesn't seem normal at all.
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I think, if someone intended to do harm they wouldn't publicize it first!
This guy might be just a loon who needs a good whooping'... >:(
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I think, if someone intended to do harm they wouldn't publicize it first!
This guy might be just a loon who needs a good whooping'... >:(
Yes. Only 1 in a million death threats are actually serious.
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I think Chaim is aware of these kind of threatenings...so he is used with them and I personally think that he doesn't care so much because we are a movement, a power of a truth, and threatenings of evil people will be all over the place!
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Yacov, can you trace zatzals ip address because of the death threat. We need to find out more info about him. We need to take death threats seriously, not roll over like the kike regime in Israel.
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I don't like it one bit it is looking very well like a threat.
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Yacov, can you trace zatzals ip address because of the death threat. We need to find out more info about him. We need to take death threats seriously, not roll over like the kike regime in Israel.
DWI is right...we need to figure out where this person came from and trace him.
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Yes, it is troubling. I only hope this guy gathered his facts from assumptions of listening to Chaim over the years rather than G-d forbid actually stalking him. The good news is I do believe most loons make idle threats, and we can't give into them and live in fear anyway. O0
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Never underestimate one's enemies.
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Never underestimate one's enemies.
Exactly
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He guessed wrong. That is not my usual bus route. I travel on that bus very rarely.
If his intention was to threaten, I have received many threats throughout my life and they have never deterred me. The only way someone could shut me up would be to literally murder me. Otherwise I will continue doing my best to spread the truth. And if someone does murder me, it will turn me into a martyr that will only make our movement even more popular. So let's not worry about this.
As far as his irrational criticism is concerned, I will respond to it on the program.
I thank our great members for their concern, but in my opinion, this is nothing to worry about.
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Yes, Chaim, this is what I thought would be your response. Thank G-d for you and JTF. O0
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ehm....is that the actual route Chaim takes? :o ???
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Guys there are so many muslims in newyork nowdays do you think chaim should carry a handgun for precaution as for the stalker i can bet he is a muslim and he is frustated as we are exposing pisslam
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Chaim: I believe that you are an armchair Israeli and a Monday-morning quarterback. When you take the bus on Union Turnpike and Queens Boulevard going toward Fresh Meadows, you have virtually no chance that the person getting on after you will have a belt of several pounds of C4-Semtex Plastique surrounded by nails, sit next to the fuel tank and blow you to kingdom come; Israelis always have that trepidation. It is easy to say, "Why don't they drive every stinking Muslim out"?; "Why don't they persecute, beat and if necessary, kill the Arabs until they beg to leave"? Nevertheless, you don't have to live directly with the consequences; your seder, your pizzeria or your ice cream parlor on Union Turnpike or 108th Street in Forest Hills won't be blown up with you or your wife or child in it as a result of th Draconian solutions you propose.
If you read it carefully it's not a threat it seems like it's a 'piss now' type boy who is trying to say that Chaim does'nt live in Israel.Little does this boy know that Chaim would gladly go to Israel if this Govt 'yimach shemom'would allow him to emigrate BTW Semtex is just a brand name
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ehm....is that the actual route Chaim takes? :o ???
Definately isn't because he doesn't live in the part of Forest Hills where those bus routes were mentioned
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Chaim: I believe that you are an armchair Israeli and a Monday-morning quarterback. When you take the bus on Union Turnpike and Queens Boulevard going toward Fresh Meadows, you have virtually no chance that the person getting on after you will have a belt of several pounds of C4-Semtex Plastique surrounded by nails, sit next to the fuel tank and blow you to kingdom come; Israelis always have that trepidation. It is easy to say, "Why don't they drive every stinking Muslim out"?; "Why don't they persecute, beat and if necessary, kill the Arabs until they beg to leave"? Nevertheless, you don't have to live directly with the consequences; your seder, your pizzeria or your ice cream parlor on Union Turnpike or 108th Street in Forest Hills won't be blown up with you or your wife or child in it as a result of th Draconian solutions you propose.
If you read it carefully it's not a threat it seems like it's a 'piss now' type boy who is trying to say that Chaim does'nt live in Israel.Little does this boy know that Chaim would gladly go to Israel if this Govt 'yimach shemom'would allow him to emigratee BTW Semtex is just a brand name
he put up a new askjtf question for march 30th with the aim to segregate righteous gentiles from Jews.
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This guy is the usual typical wimpy little coward who talks a bunch of crap but will do nothing. Problem here is that some muzzie nut watching this site might believe this is Chaim's actual daily route and will think he is doing a service to the satanic allah by blowing himself up on a bus on Union Tpke and QB.
Of course if this horror ever happened and the investigation ever led back to this post the MSM would play it either as Chaim's fault or the fault of the islamophobic radicals here at JTF driving the peaceful muzzie to this.
While this is probably not actually a direct death threat against Chaim it is still very worrisome due to what it can lead to. Just to be safe this guy should dewfinetly be "looked into".
It also might be nothing more than just a comparative observation but kind of a strange post from someone who has only single digit posts on the forum. Not the best way to start off on a forum, by posting a questionable quasi death threat. Better to error on the side of caution, look into this guy.
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This guy is the usual typical wimpy little coward who talks a bunch of crap but will do nothing. Problem here is that some muzzie nut watching this site might believe this is Chaim's actual daily route and will think he is doing a service to the satanic allah by blowing himself up on a bus on Union Tpke and QB.
Of course if this horror ever happened and the investigation ever led back to this post the MSM would play it either as Chaim's fault or the fault of the islamophobic radicals here at JTF driving the peaceful muzzie to this.
While this is probably not actually a direct death threat against Chaim it is still very worrisome due to what it can lead to. Just to be safe this guy should dewfinetly be "looked into".
It also might be nothing more than just a comparative observation but kind of a strange post from someone who has only single digit posts on the forum. Not the best way to start off on a forum, by posting a questionable quasi death threat. Better to error on the side of caution, look into this guy.
i can bet you it is Allen T
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Take care my friend Chaim. Please do not be too nonchalant. Many people love you and depend on you. :(
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I agree, we all want Chaim to remain safe.
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I'm very interested to see how Chaim will respond to this.
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It is amazing how supportive the members of JTF are but we should not give those types of posts such undue attention.
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I thank our great members for their concern, but in my opinion, this is nothing to worry about.
I agree with Chaim. I think the guy was just trying to say "You live in Queens so you don't know what you are talking about". He picked some common streets to make it clear that Chaim lived in Queens and not Israel. It would be similar to a random poster telling me that I only drive on Charles street through downtown Baltimore and thus do not know what the heck is going on in Jerusalem. There are many streets in Baltimore just like there are many in Queens and Long Island. It is not hard to name a random big one.