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Torah and Jewish Idea => Torah and Jewish Idea => Topic started by: Boeregeneraal on April 03, 2008, 06:04:15 AM
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Shalom all
Can someone PLEASE direct me to some verses in the Torah, that proves that Shabbat is one Saturday.
Toda
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Interesting...Saturday is considered the 7th day of the week to Jews. In the Torah it is written that Gd rested on the 7th day and said it was good. Furthermore, in the 10 commandments is goes into how Jews shoudl rest on the 7th day.
Now, how do we konw that Satuday is the actual 7th day and not Monday? Does it matter? A 7th day has been chosen and has been kept...if it was proven it was Tuesday, I don't think it would make sense to change it.
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it would be interesting to hear what Lubab has to say about it
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If G-d gave the instrunction to Moshe and the nation to keep Shabb-t, He would of-course say when Shabb-t was (even though even before that they knew), and from that time on the over-welming majority kept Shabb-t, so it cant possibly have been confused with monday or sunday. You can also see that all Jews from different parts of the globe all know when Shabb-t is and when wensday is. + each day, the day in counted in the prayers (each day has its own special prayer included).
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http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php?topic=9295.0
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so it's more of a conveniance/traditional conceopt for Shabbat to be on Saturday?
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so it's more of a conveniance/traditional conceopt for Shabbat to be on Saturday?
Boergeneral, Sabbath is Saturday, has always been Saturday and has never been anything but Saturday.
The Christian Church changed the Sabbath to Sunday at the council of Nicea in the 4th century NOT because they were contesting the idea that Sabbath is Saturday, but because Christians beleive Jesus of Nazareth resurrected on Sunday. Ask any Christian or Catholic theologian for confirmation.
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so it's more of a conveniance/traditional conceopt for Shabbat to be on Saturday?
Boergeneral, Sabbath is Saturday, has always been Saturday and has never been anything but Saturday.
The Christian Church changed the Sabbath to Saturday at the council of Nicea in the 4th century NOT because they were contesting the idea that Sabbath is Saturday, but because Christians beleive Jesus of Nazareth resurrected on Sunday. Ask any Christian or Catholic theologian for confirmation.
They changed it because Rome was trying to create a paganised-Jewish hybrid faith as a state religion to weld it's fracturing empire together. Sunday was the pagan day of sun worship, thus it paganised the Jewish tradition of Shabbat. Standard MO of Constantinian Rome.
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Yes, I know all this, but I need Torah quotes please
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TODA DanBenNoah
See the thing that i wanted to do, is give some evidencce that Christians should have Shabbat on SATURDAY and NOT sunday, as sunday would be a perversion.
TODA