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Boer War descendants to march in Anzac parade
10th April 2008, 11:15 WST
Boer War soldiers will be remembered at Anzac Day parades around Victoria this year.
It’s the first time in 30 years a Boer War delegation will be included in Anzac parades.
The Boer War, from 1899 to 1902, was Australia’s first major campaign and ranks only behind World War I and World War II in terms of Australia’s war contribution.
Boer War March Committee spokesman Bill Woolmore told AAP all descendants were invited to join the march.
“Obviously, those who fought in the war are no longer with us,” Mr Woolmore said.
“But there are thousands of descendants of Boer War soldiers out there and we are trying to contact as many as possible.”
Descendants have been invited to wear their family member’s medals, on the right side of their chest.
Only people who were awarded the medals for their own combat are permitted to wear medals on the left side of their chest.
Two new banners will be paraded - one a copy of the original banner of the South African Returned Services Association and the other a brand new design.
Mr Woolmore said the decision to re-instate a Boer War section in the parade was made after a national committee was formed to fight for a memorial in Canberra.
“This war is such an important part of our history and we want to make sure people are aware of that.”
He said the RSL had approved the decision and members were fully behind the Boer War’s inclusion in the parade.
He said he hoped the Boer War part of the parade would become a permanent part of Anzac Day celebrations.
Mr Woolmore said about 25,000 Australians fought in the war, some as part of South African and New Zealand contingents.
Boer War descendants will march directly behind the frontline police in this year’s parades.
AAP
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I invite the muslims to blow these 'desendants' to hell!
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This is great news!!
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This is great news!!
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This is great news!!
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I'm sorry! I am an idiot! Let me restate this! "This is great news" that people like Boeregeneraal say that these 'desendants' should be blown to hell!
I never meant my statement to favour those desendents!
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haha, thank you ARISESA
Yes, seeing that im on location...mmmm...
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Touching any ANZAC pride, wishing any death on Australian Military is an assault on Australia, and its people.
>:(
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Boere you are meant to be a moderator of SAVE Australia and NewZealand, not Blow it up :o
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Looks like cross purpose misunderstandings here!! Boeregeneraal, perhaps we should explain the situation!?
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I never meant my statement to favour those desendents
Those people the ANZAC's and their desendents are apart of Australia, those ANZAC's gave their lives for the freedoms we today now enjoy.
Boere is only here in Australia, because of people such as them, keeping Australia a free and great country.
You enjoy our culture our way of life, support Australia or leave it!
This is the ideal example of multiculturalism gone bad.
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Hi Fidei defensor, I think perhaps you can see our predicament as South African Boers. These desendents fought against us! >:(
We have great respect for Australia and New Zealand, we have no intention of insulting you. It is just a little bit of a sore point!
I believe that we should together rather now focus on the imminent threats of islam and black invasions and destruction of western civilization!
A Small piece of history:
From 10th October 1899 to the end of May 1902 a bitter conflict raged across the South African veldt between Britain and her Empire and the two largely self governing Boer Republics of the Transvaal and the Orange Free State. The six Australian States (colonies) were quick to make troops available to Britain when a Boer ultimatum to the British expired and its consequential war declaration was enacted by Boer commandos as they streamed across the borders into the British colonies of the Cape of Good Hope and Natal. The first troops from Australia, a squadron of the New South Wales Lancers Landed in Capetown on 2 November 1899, less that one month after the British Government made its war declaration.
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I am aware of the History of the Boer War. Sore point or not, calling for Islam to attack this country and its people is unacceptable.
Calling for the deaths of diggers and their families is unacceptable.
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I never meant my statement to favour those desendents
Those people the ANZAC's and their desendents are apart of Australia, those ANZAC's gave their lives for the freedoms we today now enjoy.
Boere is only here in Australia, because of people such as them, keeping Australia a free and great country.
You enjoy our culture our way of life, support Australia or leave it!
This is the ideal example of multiculturalism gone bad.
Oh yeah....those 'anzacs' of 1902 surely defended aus alright...oh yeaah...those Boers were on their ships heading right to invade aus...mmm...yeah ::)
I am only in this pathetic hell hole called ASStralia because of ASStralians with their big mouths and noses sniffing and buggering up MY country!!!! They had NO right to interfere in MY and ARISE' country!
Oh believe me, I absolutely detest ASS culture!!! Hell...I prefer mussie culture before I submit to ass culture!
ugh! >:(
Oh yeah...those anzacs were great....aiding the genocide of WOMEN and CHILDREN!!!
yeah, and killing POW's....while the BOERS were giving the best of care to british and colonial pow's
.......mmmm.....you had it coming in ww2 and the JAPANESE!
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I never meant my statement to favour those desendents
Those people the ANZAC's and their desendents are apart of Australia, those ANZAC's gave their lives for the freedoms we today now enjoy.
Boere is only here in Australia, because of people such as them, keeping Australia a free and great country.
You enjoy our culture our way of life, support Australia or leave it!
This is the ideal example of multiculturalism gone bad.
Oh yeah....those 'anzacs' of 1902 surely defended aus alright...oh yeaah...those Boers were on their ships heading right to invade aus...mmm...yeah ::)
I am only in this pathetic hell hole called ASStralia because of ASStralians with their big mouths and noses sniffing and buggering up MY country!!!! They had NO right to interfere in MY and ARISE' country!
Oh believe me, I absolutely detest donkey culture!!! Hell...I prefer mussie culture before I submit to donkey culture!
ugh! >:(
Oh yeah...those anzacs were great....aiding the genocide of WOMEN and CHILDREN!!!
yeah, and killing POW's....while the BOERS were giving the best of care to british and colonial pow's
.......mmmm.....you had it coming in ww2 and the JAPANESE!
You are not forced to stay here Boere you are free to go back to your country.
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I think we have a common enemy in islam, we would never want an islam invasion of Australia. I apologize for the statement, however also realize who we are and our history with Australia.
We have great respect for you and the people of Australia are our great modern allies! Which we greatly appreciate! Let us rather stand together in our current common cause which is preservation of our peoples rights (Australian and Boer) in Australia and South Africa!
Honestly guys, lets stand together NOW in the 21st century!
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id love to get of this hell hole...worst bloody country in the world!
But....haha....ASStralians will get it x100 times worse....oh yesssss...you reap what you sow
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Boere is clear you are a hater of this country.
And clearly only wish to destroy it.
I will not wish you luck in that venture.
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An eye for an eye is it not?
The Boer war, ok yes it was a war...all understandable...but then you have things like Breaker Morant....and yet they are portrayed as heroes! :o >:(
So nearly a century later, by G-D they f*** us over AGAIN!!!
And you know what....when I talk to the Boer people in ASStralia, one can only start to hate these whoremongering drunkards of ASStralians for theire treatment of MY people up to this day!
>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
I do not however hate New Zealenders! Theire good people...but the same can definitely not be said for...
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South Africa is not screwed up today because of Australia's 'me too' contribution to Britain's forces during the Boer War. SA was independant 9 years after the treaty with Britain!
Nor is it screwed because of any Australian 'me too-ing' during the anti-apartheid activities of the 1980s/90s that the whole world (wrongly) took part in.
The sad and undeniable truth is that SA is screwed because a MAJORITY of South Africans voted to hand it over to the blacks. Like it or not, they are the facts.
For any SA resident of Australia (whilst benefiting from Australia's freedom, safety, education and social services etc) to call for an iSSlamic attack on Australia or it's citizens over our miniscule contribution to the Boer War over a century ago is absolutely unacceptable!
Want a scapegoat for the situation in SA today? Blame your own traitor De Klerk and the dumb white South African majority he fooled. Don't blame us!
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MAJORITY of South Africans voted to hand it over to the blacks
eh correction! PW Botha ( G-D rest his soul) was forced out of office, and traitorous de klerk INSTALLED...he was NOT voted in!
Besides, if majority of australians refused to fight in Sa (like our brave Canadian brothers) it would be another story. Instead, they went on wild rampages killing righteous people.
For any SA resident of Australia (whilst benefiting from Australia's freedom, safety, education and social services etc
Yea...which South Africa HAD up until asstralia started pocking it's noses into things they have no idea of! In fact, we were MUCH better of in SA, which rivaled Asstralia!
An eye for an eye, and you reap what you sow
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MAJORITY of South Africans voted to hand it over to the blacks
eh correction! PW Botha ( G-D rest his soul) was forced out of office, and traitorous de klerk INSTALLED...he was NOT voted in!
Besides, if majority of australians refused to fight in Sa (like our brave Canadian brothers) it would be another story. Instead, they went on wild rampages killing righteous people.
1/ They voted for HIS party.
2/ They voted to end apartheid.
3/ Australia prior to 1901 was a collection of British colonies, not an independant nation. Australian soldiers of those colonies had (on average) a sixth grade education, no internet, radio or TV. The press was controlled by wealthy Brit/establishment types who gave the impression that the Empire was fighting against 'renegade dutch types'. It's not like they made a fair assessment.
For any SA resident of Australia (whilst benefiting from Australia's freedom, safety, education and social services etc
Yea...which South Africa HAD up until asstralia started pocking it's noses into things they have no idea of! In fact, we were MUCH better of in SA, which rivaled Asstralia!
What possible impact did piss-ant 15 million pop' Australia have on SA in the 80s/90s? Try blaming the europeans whose sanctions actually had some affect on SA.
An eye for an eye, and you reap what you sow
If that's the case, SA whites should be killed by the ANC for their betrayal of Rhodesia. You can't have your cake AND eat it.
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An eye for an eye is it not?
The Boer war, ok yes it was a war...all understandable...but then you have things like Breaker Morant....and yet they are portrayed as heroes! :o >:(
So nearly a century later, by G-D they f*** us over AGAIN!!!
And you know what....when I talk to the Boer people in ASStralia, one can only start to hate these whoremongering drunkards of ASStralians for theire treatment of MY people up to this day!
>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
I do not however hate New Zealenders! Theire good people...but the same can definitely not be said for...
An Eye for an Eye, and the world goes blind.
Many Australian's were up in arms at the treatment of Whites in SA.
Many of Australia's Dutch sent money and aid, as well as supplies and equipment.
Many of those people today are ones you are spending your time wishing for their deaths.
Instead of helping Australia rid itself of the parasites to use its honor to better their own gains.
You wish more of the parasites here.
Its as if we wished SA to be only black.
But we don't.
Wishing death apon a country because of a minority is just plain wrong.
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Aus WANTED black and mullah' supposed "emancipation"...and they sure as hell with get it!
Be carefull what you wish for. Mmmuhahaha
Wishing death apon a country because of a minority is just plain wrong.
What minority? More like Majority!
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An Eye for an Eye, and the world goes blind.
oh, so it's a-ok to support the anc when theire bombing MY people, oh but when I am just making a statement about Al-Qaeda in aus, all the sudden the world goes blind ::)
Australia's Dutch
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3/ Australia prior to 1901 was a collection of British colonies, not an independant nation. Australian soldiers of those colonies had (on average) a sixth grade education, no internet, radio or TV. The press was controlled by wealthy Brit/establishment types who gave the impression that the Empire was fighting against 'renegade dutch types'. It's not like they made a fair assessment.
oh yeah....sure as hell enjoyed Boer hospitality, while their husbands were being murdered by the very people they were saving.
If ASStralians object to the war, then why do we have this post in the first place?
They voted for HIS party
YES, WHILE it was STILL under Botha!
There's just no point in that argument!
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3/ Australia prior to 1901 was a collection of British colonies, not an independant nation. Australian soldiers of those colonies had (on average) a sixth grade education, no internet, radio or TV. The press was controlled by wealthy Brit/establishment types who gave the impression that the Empire was fighting against 'renegade dutch types'. It's not like they made a fair assessment.
oh yeah....sure as hell enjoyed Boer hospitality, while their husbands were being murdered by the very people they were saving.
If ASStralians object to the war, then why do we have this post in the first place?
They voted for HIS party
YES, WHILE it was STILL under Botha!
There's just no point in that argument!
They voted to end apartheid..............you can't get around that. The SAs shot themselves in the foot-BIG TIME! Come to terms with it and stop solely blaming others for the pickle SA is in.
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Australia's Dutch
yes Australia's Dutch communities. The Dutch have been here since day one, hence Australia's name New Holland.
SO what are you saying?
History and fact is Dutch–Afrikaner settlers, known as Boers.
Now you have a problem with your own people?
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Australia is not DUTCH!!!!!!!!!!!!
So what if some wooden shoe-wearing dutch homo spotted the coast first. They didn't have the b@lls to hang onto it! Only the Royal Navy of the Anglo Saxons could do that!
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The SAs shot themselves in the foot-BIG TIME
eh....BLACKS voted for blacks.
Oh believe me....Australia has shot itself in the foot as well.... :D :D :D :D
yes Australia's Dutch communities. The Dutch have been here since day one, hence Australia's name New Holland.
SO what are you saying?
History and fact is Dutch–Afrikaner settlers, known as Boers.
Now you have a problem with your own people
Im illuminating that only the DUTCH were actually supporting the Boers...while the BRITS(ASStralians) were enjoying the show
They didn't have the b@lls to hang onto it[/quote
no? What do you call building a colony in the world's largest MUSLIM community?
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They didn't have the b@lls to hang onto it
no? What do you call building a colony in the world's largest MUSLIM community?
They didn't hang on to it either. ^-^ Too much pooping on each other & eating it like they do in homosexual europe, I suppose.
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:::D :::D :::D
yeah....mayby they learned it while they were so close to SODOM (ASStralia).
You and I both know ASStralia is known very well for it's sodomy ;)
Yeah...just like your family did not hold on to their little islands...etc
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Australia is not DUTCH!!!!!!!!!!!!
So what if some wooden shoe-wearing dutch homo spotted the coast first. They didn't have the b@lls to hang onto it! Only the Royal Navy of the Anglo Saxons could do that!
It could of been Newman just the Dutch sealers never claimed it, thats why their were blonde Abbo's here, its Dutch blood.
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no? What do you call building a colony in the world's largest MUSLIM community?
What are you talking about, Australia has always been Christain, are you saying there are more muslims here in Australia 200 years ago, than in the middle east?
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:::D :::D :::D
yeah....mayby they learned it while they were so close to SODOM (ASStralia).
You and I both know ASStralia is known very well for it's sodomy ;)
Yeah...just like your family did not hold on to their little islands...etc
Our Islands weren't OURS. They were a British/French condominium in which my family owned land. They were given away in London & Paris. At least we didn't VOTE to give them away like white South Africans did. :D
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no? What do you call building a colony in the world's largest MUSLIM community?
What are you talking about, Australia has always been Christain, are you saying there are more muslims here in Australia 200 years ago, than in the middle east?
im talking about INDONESIA!
btw, all this is doing wonders for my Post count :::D
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:::D :::D :::D
yeah....mayby they learned it while they were so close to SODOM (ASStralia).
You and I both know ASStralia is known very well for it's sodomy ;)
Yeah...just like your family did not hold on to their little islands...etc
Our Islands weren't OURS. They were a British/French condominium in which my family owned land. They were given away in London & Paris. At least we didn't VOTE to give them away like white South Africans did. :D
where are you coming at with all these white South African votes for anc? ???
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once again, South Africa was ALSO lost in some city, not by our own.
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:::D :::D :::D
yeah....mayby they learned it while they were so close to SODOM (ASStralia).
You and I both know ASStralia is known very well for it's sodomy ;)
Yeah...just like your family did not hold on to their little islands...etc
Our Islands weren't OURS. They were a British/French condominium in which my family owned land. They were given away in London & Paris. At least we didn't VOTE to give them away like white South Africans did. :D
where are you coming at with all these white South African votes for anc? ???
The voting system in SA was gerremandered. That's why there was white minority rule. That DID NOT change until white South Africans voted to change it! Learn your own history for Pete's sake.
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are you talking about the few, whom voted for the anc?
Besides, you might be laughing about it now, but the one who laughs last, cries the hardest ;) ... and your about to see what we mean, and boy will I enjoy it :D O0
You wanted it, you got it, and you'll get it on a silver platter?
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no? What do you call building a colony in the world's largest MUSLIM community?
What are you talking about, Australia has always been Christain, are you saying there are more muslims here in Australia 200 years ago, than in the middle east?
im talking about INDONESIA!
btw, all this is doing wonders for my Post count :::D
WOW thank g-d for that I was going .....what!
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no? What do you call building a colony in the world's largest MUSLIM community?
What are you talking about, Australia has always been Christain, are you saying there are more muslims here in Australia 200 years ago, than in the middle east?
im talking about INDONESIA!
btw, all this is doing wonders for my Post count :::D
WOW thank g-d for that I was going .....what!
hehe
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are you talking about the few, whom voted for the anc?
No.
I'm talking about the majority who voted to end apartheid, bringing in one vote-one value thus enabling the ANC to take power. Forget about that, did you?
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are you talking about the few, whom voted for the anc?
No.
I'm talking about the majority who voted to end apartheid, bringing in one vote-one value thus enabling the ANC to take power. Forget about that, did you?
Ending Apartheid was the worst thing SA ever did. It killed any hope left in the country.
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are you talking about the few, whom voted for the anc?
No.
I'm talking about the majority who voted to end apartheid, bringing in one vote-one value thus enabling the ANC to take power. Forget about that, did you?
what?! ???
Come on Newman, your smarter than that (the only smart AUStralian there is ;) )
Apartheid was ended by De KLERK....NOT by white vote! What the leaders decided was in the complete opposite to what the BOERS wanted.
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are you talking about the few, whom voted for the anc?
No.
I'm talking about the majority who voted to end apartheid, bringing in one vote-one value thus enabling the ANC to take power. Forget about that, did you?
Ending Apartheid was the worst thing SA ever did. It killed any hope left in the country.
That's my point. But THEY DID IT. THEY DID IT!!!!!
Now one is blaming US for their problems! >:(
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your quoting yourself
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are you talking about the few, whom voted for the anc?
No.
I'm talking about the majority who voted to end apartheid, bringing in one vote-one value thus enabling the ANC to take power. Forget about that, did you?
what?! ???
Come on Newman, your smarter than that (the only smart AUStralian there is ;) )
Apartheid was ended by De KLERK....NOT by white vote! What the leaders decided was in the complete opposite to what the BOERS wanted.
NO!!!!!
Bumb-@ss South Africans VOTED to end apartheid!!!!
Read this:
1992: South Africa votes for change
White South Africans have backed an overwhelming mandate for political reforms to end apartheid and create a power-sharing multi-racial government.
In a landslide victory for change, the government swept the polls in all four provinces, and all but one of 15 referendum regions.
It won 68.6% of the vote in a record turn-out, which, in some districts exceeded 96%.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/march/18/newsid_2524000/2524695.stm
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are you talking about the few, whom voted for the anc?
No.
I'm talking about the majority who voted to end apartheid, bringing in one vote-one value thus enabling the ANC to take power. Forget about that, did you?
Ending Apartheid was the worst thing SA ever did. It killed any hope left in the country.
That's my point. But THEY DID IT. THEY DID IT!!!!!
Now one is blaming US for their problems! >:(
12,000 ANZAC's with mighty b^lls of steel :::D :::D
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12,000 ANZAC's with mighty b^lls of steel
Less than 50,000 BOERS fighting the worlds largest and powerfull army of 400,000+, and still winning! Now that's what I call MEN!
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are you talking about the few, whom voted for the anc?
No.
I'm talking about the majority who voted to end apartheid, bringing in one vote-one value thus enabling the ANC to take power. Forget about that, did you?
Ending Apartheid was the worst thing SA ever did. It killed any hope left in the country.
That's my point. But THEY DID IT. THEY DID IT!!!!!
Now one is blaming US for their problems! >:(
12,000 ANZAC's with mighty b^lls of steel :::D :::D
That generation never questioned church or crown. When Britain went to war, every man-Jack jumped at the chance to have the privilage of getting his brains blown out for the empire. :(
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12,000 ANZAC's with mighty b^lls of steel
Less than 50,000 BOERS fighting the worlds largest and powerfull army of 400,000+, and still winning! Now that's what I call MEN!
Boere you claim Australia Brought down the Boer's and SA so which is it?
So 12,000 Aussies and Kiwis kicked 50,000 Boer's?
You can't have it both ways mate.
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are you talking about the few, whom voted for the anc?
No.
I'm talking about the majority who voted to end apartheid, bringing in one vote-one value thus enabling the ANC to take power. Forget about that, did you?
Ending Apartheid was the worst thing SA ever did. It killed any hope left in the country.
That's my point. But THEY DID IT. THEY DID IT!!!!!
Now one is blaming US for their problems! >:(
12,000 ANZAC's with mighty b^lls of steel :::D :::D
That generation never questioned church or crown. When Britain went to war, every man-Jack jumped at the chance to have the privilage of getting his brains blown out for the empire. :(
That generation of men were great men, and will be for ever honored, the ANZAC spirit will never die!
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are you talking about the few, whom voted for the anc?
No.
I'm talking about the majority who voted to end apartheid, bringing in one vote-one value thus enabling the ANC to take power. Forget about that, did you?
Ending Apartheid was the worst thing SA ever did. It killed any hope left in the country.
That's my point. But THEY DID IT. THEY DID IT!!!!!
Now one is blaming US for their problems! >:(
12,000 ANZAC's with mighty b^lls of steel :::D :::D
That generation never questioned church or crown. When Britain went to war, every man-Jack jumped at the chance to have the privilage of getting his brains blown out for the empire. :(
That generation of men were great men, and will be for ever honored, the ANZAC spirit will never die!
My great grandfather fought in the Boer war (as a Brit, not an aussie) in the Gloucester Regiment. When WW1 started he was on his way to vollunteer even though he was near 40 years of age. It was only his wife screaming the house down about their four children not surviving on 3 shillings a day soldiers' pay that stopped him.
When WW2 started and his teenage sons ALL signed up and required parental consent, he couldn't sign the papers quick enough and cried tears of pride & joy at his sons doing their bit for king & empire!
Different generation in those days.
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are you talking about the few, whom voted for the anc?
No.
I'm talking about the majority who voted to end apartheid, bringing in one vote-one value thus enabling the ANC to take power. Forget about that, did you?
Ending Apartheid was the worst thing SA ever did. It killed any hope left in the country.
That's my point. But THEY DID IT. THEY DID IT!!!!!
Now one is blaming US for their problems! >:(
12,000 ANZAC's with mighty b^lls of steel :::D :::D
That generation never questioned church or crown. When Britain went to war, every man-Jack jumped at the chance to have the privilage of getting his brains blown out for the empire. :(
That generation of men were great men, and will be for ever honored, the ANZAC spirit will never die!
My great grandfather fought in the Boer war (as a Brit, not an aussie) in the Gloucester Regiment. When WW1 started he was on his way to vollunteer even though he was near 40 years of age. It was only his wife screaming the house down about their four children not surviving on 3 shillings a day soldiers' pay that stopped him.
When WW2 started and his teenage sons ALL signed up and required parental consent, he couldn't sign the papers quick enough and cried tears of pride & joy at his sons doing their bit for king & empire!
Different generation in those days.
Not wrong mate O0
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12,000 ANZAC's with mighty b^lls of steel
Less than 50,000 BOERS fighting the worlds largest and powerfull army of 400,000+, and still winning! Now that's what I call MEN!
Boere you claim Australia Brought down the Boer's and SA so which is it?
So 12,000 Aussies and Kiwis kicked 50,000 Boer's?
You can't have it both ways mate.
nope, totally not what im saying.
Im saying the australians played a big part in fighting against the Righteous, and bringing in a communist anti-semitic government to SA. This fact is portrayed regularly on australian air waves on channels such as SBS and ABC.
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12,000 ANZAC's with mighty b^lls of steel
Less than 50,000 BOERS fighting the worlds largest and powerfull army of 400,000+, and still winning! Now that's what I call MEN!
Boere you claim Australia Brought down the Boer's and SA so which is it?
So 12,000 Aussies and Kiwis kicked 50,000 Boer's?
You can't have it both ways mate.
nope, totally not what im saying.
Im saying the australians played a big part in fighting against the Righteous, and bringing in a communist anti-semitic government to SA. This fact is portrayed regularly on australian air waves on channels such as SBS and ABC.
Cobblers'!
South African whites VOTED to end aparteid, remove themselves from power and give blacks the vote so THEY could install a "communist anti-semitic government to SA".
1992: South Africa votes for change
White South Africans have backed an overwhelming mandate for political reforms to end apartheid and create a power-sharing multi-racial government.
In a landslide victory for change, the government swept the polls in all four provinces, and all but one of 15 referendum regions.
It won 68.6% of the vote in a record turn-out, which, in some districts exceeded 96%.
The extent of change was highlighted in the Kroonstad region of the Orange Free State, where five of the seven Parliamentary seats are held by the "no" campaigners in the conservative party.
Despite being one of the most conservative districts in the whole country there was a small yes majority for change.
Only Pietersburg in the Northern Transvaal, a rural right-wing stronghold where Dr Andries Treurnicht has his parliamentary constituency as head of the CP, returned a no vote.
Pretoria, the administrative capital which has symbolised Afrikanerdom, produced a 57% "yes", in the legislative capital, Cape Town, 85% voted "yes" and in the judicial capital of Bloemfontein 58.5%.
"Today we have closed the book on apartheid,'' Mr de Klerk said in Cape Town as he also celebrates his 56th birthday.
White electors have not only voted by a 2-1 majority to abolish apartheid but also to lose their own power.
Mr de Klerk said the result was a boost for the Convention for a Democratic South Africa, Codesa, but he could not commit himself to a timetable for installing a multi-racial government, which required further discussions
Dr Treurnicht pledged never to work on the Codesa board and that CP would not join the negotiating forum.
He said: "De Klerk has won his referendum. That is clear."
But he vowed there would be a return of apartheid in the country and he blamed media propaganda, foreign intervention and threats by businessmen against employees for the result.
Nelson Mandela, the president of the African National Congress who was jailed for 27 years because of his fight against black segregation, said he was ''very happy indeed''.
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nope, totally not what im saying.
Im saying the australians played a big part in fighting against the Righteous, and bringing in a communist anti-semitic government to SA. This fact is portrayed regularly on australian air waves on channels such as SBS and ABC.
Ok ok I see where we have the problem, first of all the Australian Broadcasting network, or Aunty thats is commonly called by some, is a very left wing Multi cultural station. Gone are the days when it reported the truth, let alone any credible facts.
They only use it plays in Australian society is that it keeps up with social issues. Rather than hard line news, or worth while doco's.
Australian TV is become very pityful indeed. Hence I have Foxtel.
SBS is the voice and vision of multicultural Australia.
They run programs that they get good money to air, including Porn.
Please don't watch that rubbish.
The Special Broadcasting Service (SBS) is one of two government funded Australian public broadcasting radio and television networks, the other being the Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC).
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nope, totally not what im saying.
Im saying the australians played a big part in fighting against the Righteous, and bringing in a communist anti-semitic government to SA. This fact is portrayed regularly on australian air waves on channels such as SBS and ABC.
Ok ok I see where we have the problem, first of all the Australian Broadcasting network, or Aunty thats is commonly called by some, is a very left wing Multi cultural station. Gone are the days when it reported the truth, let alone any credible facts.
They only use it plays in Australian society is that it keeps up with social issues. Rather than hard line news, or worth while doco's.
Australian TV is become very pityful indeed. Hence I have Foxtel.
SBS is the voice and vision of multicultural Australia.
They run programs that they get good money to air, including Porn.
Please don't watch that rubbish.
The Special Broadcasting Service (SBS) is one of two government funded Australian public broadcasting radio and television networks, the other being the Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC).
I might also add that neither SBS or ABC reflect majority Australian values or beliefs. They represent the view of latte-sipping inner city leftists and professional immigrants & race pimps. Taking their representations as a majority view is like taking Haretz as the majority Israeli view.
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Metrosexual yuppys is the label befitting them.
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Australia's Dutch
Ok. Didn't know that.
Can you now leave the place, since it is mine :::D
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:::D
What I was actually meaning by that, was that it was only the Dutch and Germans in Australia that were protessing Australia's involvement in the Boer War.
And yes, Australia was first discovered by the dutch, hence a possible claim lies with the Dutch ;)
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Less than 50,000 BOERS fighting the worlds largest and powerfull army of 400,000+, and still winning!
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It is sometimes said, with some justification, that the Boers won the Peace. It is never said, except by Boeregeneraal, that they won the War. Sure, it is sometimes said that they sort-of-lost the War, but that's like being a little bit pregnant.
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winning and won. Might I remind you there is a BIG difference between saying winning (which I said), and 'won'(which you are implying I [BG] said).
So by your argument id would go the way of the various wars glorious Israel fought. At the start the arabs were WINNING...but they LOST, and the ISRAELI'S WON!
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winning and won. Might I remind you there is a BIG difference between saying winning (which I said), and 'won'(which you are implying I [BG] said).
So by your argument id would go the way of the various wars glorious Israel fought. At the start the arabs were WINNING...but they LOST, and the ISRAELI'S WON!
Technical difference, but never mind. Sure, both sides won and lost. In the words of the Afrikaans historian Lourens van der Post, the Anglo-Boer War was simply the sort of thing that the European countries did all the time in the nineteenth century. Don't worry about it. Let me advise something else. Most of the people I know who have moved to Australia have set about becoming Australians. When people they moved to S. Africa they stayed what they were, largely because of the cultural divides between whites. The English stayed English, long after the England they knew had disappeared. So, why not give being Australian a go. As Pick Botha once said of Australia, we are the same people. Re. southern Africa, and talking about unity, remember the words of the breakaway right-wing Jaap Marais, leader of the Afrikaans HNP, when he said that he stood for the unity of all whites, and that the battle for southern Africa should have been fought on the banks of the Zambesi, not the Limpopo. He was right, a sort of Enoch Powell, similarly outcast for saying the truth. But don't worry too much - there will never be a resettlement of whites in the Cape, but there might just be a time, starting in Zimbabwe, when the whites get welcomed back.