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Title: Moslem site worries about Jewish/BNP alliance
Post by: mord on April 10, 2008, 05:40:43 PM
http://ummahpulse.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=179&Itemid=71
Title: Re: Moslem site worries about Jewish/BNP alliance
Post by: EagleEye on April 10, 2008, 06:16:35 PM
The fact that it is scaring muslims may mean this alliance has good potential.  And the British and the Jews really have a relatively friendly history in comparison to other competing nationalities.
Title: Re: Moslem site worries about Jewish/BNP alliance
Post by: mord on April 10, 2008, 06:44:18 PM
The fact that it is scaring muslims may mean this alliance has good potential.  And the British and the Jews really have a relatively friendly history in comparison to other competing nationalities.
correct i think it's a good development
Title: Re: Moslem site worries about Jewish/BNP alliance
Post by: Ultra Requete on April 11, 2008, 01:25:30 PM
One good thing about iSSlam is that it unites the people... against it. O0
Title: Re: Moslem site worries about Jewish/BNP alliance
Post by: mord on April 11, 2008, 01:36:47 PM
One good thing about iSSlam is that it unites the people... against it. O0
That it does ;D ;D
Title: Re: Moslem site worries about Jewish/BNP alliance
Post by: Ulli on April 11, 2008, 01:57:39 PM
From the article:

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It becomes increasingly difficult to avoid the spectre of a Holocaust against Muslims, were the BNP ever to come to power. The Jewish community in particular, given its history of suffering at the hands of fascist ideology, needs to be more pro-active and out-spoken against what is increasingly being seen in some quarters as the beginnings of a Jewish/BNP alliance against Muslims.

The evil Muzzies should remember, what they have done during the last centuries to Jews and Christians in Greatbritain and worldwide.

Jews and Christians are afraid to go without police-protection to Synagoge or Church.

Raping, murdering, robbing, mocking and stealing.

I don't wish the Muzzies a holocaust, because I prefer Chaims answer of ending welfare & giving them compensation to leave.

But no other ideology, has brought in the last time so much suffering and death to mankind, like Islam.

If there are any followers of a ideology, who deserve a holocaust, then they are Nazis and Muslimes.
Title: Re: Moslem site worries about Jewish/BNP alliance
Post by: mord on April 11, 2008, 02:06:07 PM
From the article:

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It becomes increasingly difficult to avoid the spectre of a Holocaust against Muslims, were the BNP ever to come to power. The Jewish community in particular, given its history of suffering at the hands of fascist ideology, needs to be more pro-active and out-spoken against what is increasingly being seen in some quarters as the beginnings of a Jewish/BNP alliance against Muslims.

The evil Muzzies should remember, what they have done during the last centuries to Jews and Christians in Greatbritain and worldwide.

Jews and Christians are afraid to go without police-protection to Synagoge or Church.

Raping, murdering, robbing, mocking and stealing.

I don't wish the Muzzies a holocaust, because I prefer Chaims answer of ending welfare & giving them compensation to leave.

But no other ideology, has brought in the last time so much suffering and death to mankind, like Islam.

If there are any followers of a ideology, who deserve a holocaust, then they are Nazis and Muslimes.

I agree they can go to moslem countries and live with Sharia law,we'll see if the muzzies  will be happy in their countries
Title: Re: Moslem site worries about Jewish/BNP alliance
Post by: briann on April 11, 2008, 02:20:45 PM
The BNP's change has been dramatic!!!!!

I know many of them.. and they are very supportive of our cause.  There are still a few anti-semites in there, but almost every under 30 member sees Islam as the real problem.

Title: Re: Moslem site worries about Jewish/BNP alliance
Post by: Ulli on April 11, 2008, 02:34:50 PM
The BNP's change has been dramatic!!!!!

I know many of them.. and they are very supportive of our cause.  There are still a few anti-semites in there, but almost every under 30 member sees Islam as the real problem.



In my oppinion is atheism, paganism, antisemitism and socialism on the political rightwing treason and insanity.

If the BNP would accept god like He is and the biblical moral law I would believe them, but without this I really don't know.   :-\

Either they should admit to the way of Torah law and become Noahides and Jews or they should admit to Christ and become Christians.

If they make this step, which no Nazi can make, we can trust them.  :)
Title: Re: Moslem site worries about Jewish/BNP alliance
Post by: mord on April 11, 2008, 02:44:38 PM
The BNP's change has been dramatic!!!!!

I know many of them.. and they are very supportive of our cause.  There are still a few anti-semites in there, but almost every under 30 member sees Islam as the real problem.



In my oppinion is atheism, paganism, antisemitism and socialism on the political rightwing treason and insanity.

If the BNP would accept G-d like He is and the biblical moral law I would believe them, but without this I really don't know.   :-\

Either they should admit to the way of Torah law and become Noahides and Jews or they should admit to Christ and become Christians.

If they make this step, which no Nazi can make, we can trust them.  :)
THIS IS 100%true!!
Title: Re: Moslem site worries about Jewish/BNP alliance
Post by: Ultra Requete on April 11, 2008, 02:56:55 PM
Socialim, shovinist nationalism and liberalism in all its hues must be eredicated it's as idolatric as iSSlam. People shud read the Tanath what is the divine punishment HE inflicts on kingdoms for it: WAR, HUNGER, PESTILANCE AND DEATH.
Title: Re: Moslem site worries about Jewish/BNP alliance
Post by: Ambiorix on April 11, 2008, 03:49:05 PM
The BNP's change has been dramatic!!!!!

I know many of them.. and they are very supportive of our cause.  There are still a few anti-semites in there, but almost every under 30 member sees Islam as the real problem.



In my oppinion is atheism, paganism, antisemitism and socialism on the political rightwing treason and insanity.

If the BNP would accept G-d like He is and the biblical moral law I would believe them, but without this I really don't know.   :-\

Either they should admit to the way of Torah law and become Noahides and Jews or they should admit to Christ and become Christians.

If they make this step, which no Nazi can make, we can trust them.  :)

I have no problem with British or any European nationalists that are atheists or neo-pagans.
What counts is that they care about their nation, and that they adhere to the morals of Christianity.
Title: Re: Moslem site worries about Jewish/BNP alliance
Post by: briann on April 14, 2008, 01:20:06 AM
The BNP's change has been dramatic!!!!!

I know many of them.. and they are very supportive of our cause.  There are still a few anti-semites in there, but almost every under 30 member sees Islam as the real problem.



In my oppinion is atheism, paganism, antisemitism and socialism on the political rightwing treason and insanity.

If the BNP would accept G-d like He is and the biblical moral law I would believe them, but without this I really don't know.   :-\

Either they should admit to the way of Torah law and become Noahides and Jews or they should admit to Christ and become Christians.

If they make this step, which no Nazi can make, we can trust them.  :)



Amen.. Amen...  Amenn!!!!
 
Title: Re: Moslem site worries about Jewish/BNP alliance
Post by: ThunderAppeal on April 14, 2008, 02:21:13 AM
The fact that it is scaring muslims may mean this alliance has good potential.  And the British and the Jews really have a relatively friendly history in comparison to other competing nationalities.

Whoa!!  Say what?!  The British and Jewish people have not had a good relationship historically.
That crown put a cap of 75,000 people that could return to Israel in the years leading up to the war.
Because of that single stroke of stupidity millions of Jewish souls were lost and the soldiers who eventually had to fight the nazi-fascists.  Why did the crown put a cap on Jewish people returning to Israel?
The British excuse is that they didnt the war to seem like it was related anything Jewish.
So I would say any friendly history occured in the the 1950s into about 2000.
Title: Re: Moslem site worries about Jewish/BNP alliance
Post by: Ultra Requete on April 14, 2008, 02:52:30 AM
The fact that it is scaring muslims may mean this alliance has good potential.  And the British and the Jews really have a relatively friendly history in comparison to other competing nationalities.

Whoa!!  Say what?!  The British and Jewish people have not had a good relationship historically.
That crown put a cap of 75,000 people that could return to Israel in the years leading up to the war.
Because of that single stroke of stupidity millions of Jewish souls were lost and the soldiers who eventually had to fight the nazi-fascists.  Why did the crown put a cap on Jewish people returning to Israel?
The British excuse is that they didnt the war to seem like it was related anything Jewish.
So I would say any friendly history occured in the the 1950s into about 2000.

Every goverment including USA was antisemtic and oposing Jewish imigration before WWII. You have to renember that nazi like eugenics, race theories and social darvinism were very popular among western establishment. Plus The British and American companies were already investing heavily in ME oil industry since twenties. It was petrodolars against (sub) Human lifes; Are you realy suprised that imoral Alies leadership choosed the apeasing of A-rabs over the rescuing of Jewish lifes? 
Title: Re: Moslem site worries about Jewish/BNP alliance
Post by: JTFFan on April 14, 2008, 04:15:58 AM
The BNP's change has been dramatic!!!!!

I know many of them.. and they are very supportive of our cause.  There are still a few anti-semites in there, but almost every under 30 member sees Islam as the real problem.



In my oppinion is atheism, paganism, antisemitism and socialism on the political rightwing treason and insanity.

If the BNP would accept G-d like He is and the biblical moral law I would believe them, but without this I really don't know.   :-\

Either they should admit to the way of Torah law and become Noahides and Jews or they should admit to Christ and become Christians.

If they make this step, which no Nazi can make, we can trust them.  :)

I have no problem with British or any European nationalists that are atheists or neo-pagans.
What counts is that they care about their nation, and that they adhere to the morals of Christianity.

As long as they don't hate Israel and want it wiped off the map I'm fine with that, most European Nationalists are anti-Israel and anti-jew though, but anti-muSSlim so I guess some things are right in there movement.
Title: Re: Moslem site worries about Jewish/BNP alliance
Post by: Ambiorix on April 14, 2008, 07:05:39 AM
The BNP's change has been dramatic!!!!!

I know many of them.. and they are very supportive of our cause.  There are still a few anti-semites in there, but almost every under 30 member sees Islam as the real problem.



In my oppinion is atheism, paganism, antisemitism and socialism on the political rightwing treason and insanity.

If the BNP would accept G-d like He is and the biblical moral law I would believe them, but without this I really don't know.   :-\

Either they should admit to the way of Torah law and become Noahides and Jews or they should admit to Christ and become Christians.

If they make this step, which no Nazi can make, we can trust them.  :)

I have no problem with British or any European nationalists that are atheists or neo-pagans.
What counts is that they care about their nation, and that they adhere to the morals of Christianity.

As long as they don't hate Israel and want it wiped off the map I'm fine with that, most European Nationalists are anti-Israel and anti-jew though, but anti-muSSlim so I guess some things are right in there movement.
If a right-wing Jewish government shows how to deal for once and for all with arab enemies, I think some WN will quickly support the Israeli cause.
Title: Re: Moslem site worries about Jewish/BNP alliance
Post by: ThunderAppeal on April 14, 2008, 07:13:41 AM
The fact that it is scaring muslims may mean this alliance has good potential.  And the British and the Jews really have a relatively friendly history in comparison to other competing nationalities.

Whoa!!  Say what?!  The British and Jewish people have not had a good relationship historically.
That crown put a cap of 75,000 people that could return to Israel in the years leading up to the war.
Because of that single stroke of stupidity millions of Jewish souls were lost and the soldiers who eventually had to fight the nazi-fascists.  Why did the crown put a cap on Jewish people returning to Israel?
The British excuse is that they didnt the war to seem like it was related anything Jewish.
So I would say any friendly history occured in the the 1950s into about 2000.

Every goverment including USA was antisemtic and oposing Jewish imigration before WWII. You have to renember that nazi like eugenics, race theories and social darvinism were very popular among western establishment. Plus The British and American companies were already investing heavily in ME oil industry since twenties. It was petrodolars against (sub) Human lifes; Are you realy suprised that imoral Alies leadership choosed the apeasing of A-rabs over the rescuing of Jewish lifes? 

No, I'm not surprised and I think I've demonstrated that, my point is the British have not always been friendly towards Jewish people.  It certainly is nice of them to finally come around though.

I have to retract the time frame of 1950-2000 as those being the years of non-friendly relations.
I believe they started to warm up around the 1980s.
Title: Re: Moslem site worries about Jewish/BNP alliance
Post by: briann on April 14, 2008, 12:34:39 PM
The fact that it is scaring muslims may mean this alliance has good potential.  And the British and the Jews really have a relatively friendly history in comparison to other competing nationalities.

Whoa!!  Say what?!  The British and Jewish people have not had a good relationship historically.
That crown put a cap of 75,000 people that could return to Israel in the years leading up to the war.
Because of that single stroke of stupidity millions of Jewish souls were lost and the soldiers who eventually had to fight the nazi-fascists.  Why did the crown put a cap on Jewish people returning to Israel?
The British excuse is that they didnt the war to seem like it was related anything Jewish.
So I would say any friendly history occured in the the 1950s into about 2000.

Every goverment including USA was antisemtic and oposing Jewish imigration before WWII. You have to renember that nazi like eugenics, race theories and social darvinism were very popular among western establishment. Plus The British and American companies were already investing heavily in ME oil industry since twenties. It was petrodolars against (sub) Human lifes; Are you realy suprised that imoral Alies leadership choosed the apeasing of A-rabs over the rescuing of Jewish lifes? 

No, I'm not surprised and I think I've demonstrated that, my point is the British have not always been friendly towards Jewish people.  It certainly is nice of them to finally come around though.

I have to retract the time frame of 1950-2000 as those being the years of non-friendly relations.
I believe they started to warm up around the 1980s.


ditto

in 1980 the BNP WAS anti-semeitc (under the leadership of the contemptable John Tyndall)

But now, as with all far right movements in europe... they have changed dramatically.  Their president (Nick Griffin) is a great man.  He gave the go-ahead to allow Jeish members to join... and he is the one that has put all of the BNP's attention to Islam and immigration.

Brian


Title: Re: Moslem site worries about Jewish/BNP alliance
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on April 15, 2008, 03:28:37 AM
Their president (Nick Griffin) is a great man.  He gave the go-ahead to allow Jeish members to join...

Please stop the PR for this sick disgusting antisemitic BNP party.  Nick Griffin is a vile antisemite who has FOR YEARS denied the Holocaust and written phony books about it.  The damage he has done can never be forgiven.  And now he wants to USE Jews in his little petty war against Muslims and thinks he can fool them into following him?   Ridiculous.  That party is a joke.  They are simply racist and offer no real solutions except hatred.  STOP PUBLICIZING THIS EVIL GROUP ON THE JTF FORUM.
Title: Re: Moslem site worries about Jewish/BNP alliance
Post by: Ulli on April 15, 2008, 03:47:27 AM
Their president (Nick Griffin) is a great man.  He gave the go-ahead to allow Jeish members to join...

Please stop the PR for this sick disgusting antisemitic BNP party.  Nick Griffin is a vile antisemite who has FOR YEARS denied the Holocaust and written phony books about it.  The damage he has done can never be forgiven.  And now he wants to USE Jews in his little petty war against Muslims and thinks he can fool them into following him?   Ridiculous.  That party is a joke.  They are simply racist and offer no real solutions except hatred.  STOP PUBLICIZING THIS EVIL GROUP ON THE JTF FORUM.

There is some truth in it. What is connecting us to the BNP aside from the Muzzie issue?

What is the BNP taking for a position on:

1. Christianity

2. Judaism

3. Free Market Economie

4. Race
Title: Re: Moslem site worries about Jewish/BNP alliance
Post by: Sergio 11 on April 15, 2008, 04:08:11 AM
What jew in there right mind would want to be a part of a covert anti-semetic party...

this is ludacris.. i have heard these people speak before and Nick Griffin has all the traits of that mushnoon Hitler... anyone who doubts this should here him speak in his rallies.. then he covers up what he has said to avoid prosecution.. double tonged foul fool he is.
Title: Re: Moslem site worries about Jewish/BNP alliance
Post by: Ambiorix on April 15, 2008, 09:33:37 AM
Their president (Nick Griffin) is a great man.  He gave the go-ahead to allow Jeish members to join...

Please stop the PR for this sick disgusting antisemitic BNP party.  Nick Griffin is a vile antisemite who has FOR YEARS denied the Holocaust and written phony books about it.  The damage he has done can never be forgiven.  And now he wants to USE Jews in his little petty war against Muslims and thinks he can fool them into following him?   Ridiculous.  That party is a joke.  They are simply racist and offer no real solutions except hatred.  STOP PUBLICIZING THIS EVIL GROUP ON THE JTF FORUM.

There is some truth in it. What is connecting us to the BNP aside from the Muzzie issue?

What is the BNP taking for a position on:

1. Christianity

2. Judaism

3. Free Market Economie

4. Race

Well , as I understand, they now support Israel.
Instead of fighting European Nationalist, Jews should better work harder to reestablish Kach, in order to prevent the annihilation of their people.
Their chairman N. Griffin denounced all Conspiracy theories like The protocols of Zion etc.
I can't see anything that is really different than the policies of the 7 points plan of JTF.
They identitarian , they want to preserve Britain as it was : White and British.
If you are to turn Europe, into self-respecting nations again, I definitely the BNP and other groups  need 51% of the votes.

Jews need to fight for Israel, and Europeans need to fight for Europe, N-America, Australia and S-Africa.
Title: Re: Moslem site worries about Jewish/BNP alliance
Post by: briann on April 15, 2008, 12:01:36 PM
What jew in there right mind would want to be a part of a covert anti-semetic party...

this is ludacris.. i have heard these people speak before and Nick Griffin has all the traits of that mushnoon Hitler... anyone who doubts this should here him speak in his rallies.. then he covers up what he has said to avoid prosecution.. double tonged foul fool he is.


Your wrong.  I know Nick quite well.  and has completely changed the direction of the party AWAY from its stupid past.

He had problems initially... which is why he has had to do it slowly... as the older members were faithfull to the evil John Tyndall, but each year steered the party away from anti-semitism... with the ultimate goal of removing it altogether. 

trust me.. All the Muslims and Nazis HATE nick.   they call him a crazy zionist jew lover, etc etc.





Title: Re: Moslem site worries about Jewish/BNP alliance
Post by: mord on April 15, 2008, 12:07:18 PM
The fact that it is scaring muslims may mean this alliance has good potential.  And the British and the Jews really have a relatively friendly history in comparison to other competing nationalities.

Whoa!!  Say what?!  The British and Jewish people have not had a good relationship historically.
That crown put a cap of 75,000 people that could return to Israel in the years leading up to the war.
Because of that single stroke of stupidity millions of Jewish souls were lost and the soldiers who eventually had to fight the nazi-fascists.  Why did the crown put a cap on Jewish people returning to Israel?
The British excuse is that they didnt the war to seem like it was related anything Jewish.
So I would say any friendly history occured in the the 1950s into about 2000.

Every goverment including USA was antisemtic and oposing Jewish imigration before WWII. You have to renember that nazi like eugenics, race theories and social darvinism were very popular among western establishment. Plus The British and American companies were already investing heavily in ME oil industry since twenties. It was petrodolars against (sub) Human lifes; Are you realy suprised that imoral Alies leadership choosed the apeasing of A-rabs over the rescuing of Jewish lifes? 

No, I'm not surprised and I think I've demonstrated that, my point is the British have not always been friendly towards Jewish people.  It certainly is nice of them to finally come around though.

I have to retract the time frame of 1950-2000 as those being the years of non-friendly relations.
I believe they started to warm up around the 1980s.


ditto

in 1980 the BNP WAS anti-semeitc (under the leadership of the contemptable John Tyndall)

But now, as with all far right movements in europe... they have changed dramatically.  Their president (Nick Griffin) is a great man.  He gave the go-ahead to allow Jeish members to join... and he is the one that has put all of the BNP's attention to Islam and immigration.

Brian



This is true go to any nazi site there is no love for Nick Griffin
Title: Re: Moslem site worries about Jewish/BNP alliance
Post by: Ambiorix on April 15, 2008, 12:27:03 PM
Exactly the same happened with Vlaams Belang.
When they were a very small party in the eighties, they had neo-nazis amongst them.
Nowdays they have 20% of the votes are the most pro-Israeli party of Flanders.
Title: Re: Moslem site worries about Jewish/BNP alliance
Post by: briann on April 15, 2008, 12:39:41 PM
YEP.  and same with the Swiss People party.  And of course the Dutch People party.  (three cheers for GEERT!!!)
Title: Re: Moslem site worries about Jewish/BNP alliance
Post by: Ambiorix on April 15, 2008, 12:52:39 PM
As in Denmark the right-wing (and politically effective) party Dansk Folkeparti,
they were of course no nazis to begin with, but sure they are more pro-Israel then the socialists too.
Title: Re: Moslem site worries about Jewish/BNP alliance
Post by: Ulli on April 15, 2008, 01:12:05 PM
YEP.  and same with the Swiss People party.  And of course the Dutch People party.  (three cheers for GEERT!!!)

Swiss Peoples Party is OK!

Dansk Folkepartie is too much socialist, but not really evil.

Vlaams Belang is almost OK!
Title: Re: Moslem site worries about Jewish/BNP alliance
Post by: ThunderAppeal on April 15, 2008, 01:18:21 PM
As in Denmark the right-wing (and politically effective) party Dansk Folkeparti,
they were of course no nazis to begin with, but sure they are more pro-Israel then the socialists too.

Yeah, they are pro-Israel now because it is politically convenient for them.

The liberals of europe who were either too gutless to stand up for Israel or dislike Israel are now changing their tune because they want Jewish people to fight the muzlimz for them.

Anyway, the bottom line is that Israel and Jewish people by extention are being used as pawns for someones political agenda.  Unfortunately our lack of fortitude to stand up to Clinton and the liberals of the 90's has come back to bite us.  Now we are dependent on the fourth riech known as he EU and NATO and unfortunately by extention have to support albania and kosovo.

All [censored] [censored]. 

Thing is if Israel starts to buy weapons from russia she will be seen as a traitor to America.
But Israel has to buy weapons from American because the agreement is that Israel will provide technologically advanced inventions and America will integrate them.  In exchange America pays Israels bill, basically buying Jewish intellectual slavery.

Stealth technology, patriot missle UAV's all Israeli sourced.

I have to wonder if Carter overthrew the Shah because he wanted to make sure that Israel would be surrounded by enemies.
Title: Re: Moslem site worries about Jewish/BNP alliance
Post by: Ambiorix on April 15, 2008, 01:22:10 PM
<<Yeah, they are pro-Israel now because it is politically convenient for them.>>

I think that the current right-wing pro-Israeli parties do so, because of ideological reasons.
We think that Israel is a nation that has the right to exist, just as any other Western Country.
On top of that, we, Right-wing Jews, and rEuropeans both fight the same struggle.
Title: Re: Moslem site worries about Jewish/BNP alliance
Post by: ThunderAppeal on April 15, 2008, 01:50:57 PM
This is what is the country that claims to be siding with Israel.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/125890
Title: Re: Moslem site worries about Jewish/BNP alliance
Post by: Ambiorix on April 15, 2008, 02:01:34 PM
UK is not ruled by nationalists, but by socialists and marxist elitist.
Title: Re: Moslem site worries about Jewish/BNP alliance
Post by: Еврей on April 15, 2008, 03:18:22 PM
http://ummahpulse.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=179&Itemid=71

Great find Mord!!

Whatever scares them, pleases me :)